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'Old historic grief' at mine deaths

Rescue workers started the day yesterday confident they could save the four missing miners of the tiny Gleision mine near Swansea in south Wales, but it was not to be. Today programme reporter Andrew Hosken is near the mine and has been gauging reaction to the deaths and their effect on the local community.

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