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How do we reform the public sector?

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On Monday the Prime Minister told this programme that the organisational reforms of the NHS represented "evolutionary change". His critics argue that they are actually the most revolutionary changes to the NHS since it was founded in 1948.

Chief Executive of the RSA and former head of policy in Downing Street to Tony Blair Matthew Taylor and Dr Eamonn Butler, Director of the Adam Smith Institute, discuss how to reform large institutions such as the NHS.


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