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'Journalists have to be more artful' to get information

Referring to the News of the World hacking allegations, Met Police Assistant Commissioner John Yates said he was shocked at the suggestion that police would want to turn a blind eye because they make money from tip offs from the tabloids.

Former detective Mark Williams-Thomas and former crime reporter Wensley Clarkson debate how the relationship between the press and the police has changed over the years.

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