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Thursday, 31 October, 2002, 08:37 GMT
The right man for Stoke?
Stoke City name Tony Pulis as their new manager.
Can he turn the club around?
This debate is now closed.
Former Gillingham and Portsmouth boss Pulis was unveiled at a news conference on Friday morning.
The First Division club went for Pulis after George Burley decided not to take the job following a last-minute change of heart.
Pulis agreed an out-of-court compensation package with Portsmouth this week over his sacking in October 2000.
He will take over at Stoke with immediate effect and will be in charge for Saturday's game at Walsall.
Have Stoke got the right man?
Pulis (or "clueless" as we used to call him) nearly destroyed Bristol City - it's taken this long for then to recover. Stoke should have hired John Inman instead - he'd be as useless, but at least he'd be free.
Now I know how the Sunderland fans felt!
When Pulis was at Bristol City (where I am a season ticket-holder), he brought in a load of middle-aged injury-prone journeymen and one thug. He appeared to completely ignore the youth set-up/young players.
When he arrived - he spoke of promotion. Within a few weeks, he said it would take at least six months to turn the team around. After a few more months he said it would be at least a year.
During his tenure I have never seen such dull un-entertaining dross. Although we were difficult to beat we couldn't score either (possibly to do with our formation which was 8-0-2). I remember a spate of 0-0 draws at home just before he left.
He might be cheap now - just don't give him an excuse to sue you. Stoke City fans will soon get to know of the twin mantras of Pulisism: "Haaaaaard work" and "Triffic lads".
I'm really gutted by the fact we didn't get George Burley. But I'm even more disappointed to see the reaction of all of our fans. As a loyal Stoke fan I can remember the Gillingham side managed and created by Tony Pulis that played us off the park and hammered us over two legs.
Yet all the Stoke fans are talking about him being a long-ball fan who signs useless players. The fact of the matter is that we Stoke fans know nothing about Pulis except for the fact that he managed and created that class Gillingham side on pennies.
So why do we condemn him so early? Simply because were so used to failure, by the board, players, management, etc. No matter how good Pulis is, he won't be good enough for us because we simply crave a big name coach with decent players, and we defiantly haven't got the latter.
Yet again we are gutted with the new appointment, but I for one am willing to get behind Pulis and the side because it's time we gave a small name a chance. Good Luck Tony.
All I can add to the comments of the other Bristol City fans about Clulis is that the day he went to Portsmouth all the players, fans, staff and Board were overjoyed and we immediately started playing attractive football and winning games again. So there is hope for you Stoke - when he leaves.
Please, SCFC Board, this is my (and thousands of others) beloved club you are killing!
Good luck stoke, you'll need it. How many clubs has he sued? We have only recovered football-wise recently, but we are still in financial turmoil thanks to 'clueless' Pulis.
I feel sorry for you Potters because Bristol City will be a division ahead of you next season. Very poor decision from the Icelandic PLC, should have snapped up Burley much sooner.
Yes, he is the right man - to take Stoke into Division Two. Vale will pass them on the way up.
As a Stoke supporter, you start to get used to bad news and disappointment, but this really is too much. Gunnar Gislason should resign and the club should be put up for sale now. Stoke City deserve better than this.
I am from Iceland and would like to say that the support from Iceland will not be much after appointing Tony Pulis as their new manager. This shows that the owners have little ambition for the club.
As a Stokie all my life I am gutted with the appointment. Pulis is without doubt the last person I would have wanted to manage my beloved team. I'm afraid the blame though must go with the board, who first put Burley off and then panicked and employed Pulis.
The dire performances over the last few weeks are not going to improve under Tony Pulis. Relegation looks a cert.
I'm a Vale fan and yesterday I was worried that Stoke had finally signed a decent manager. Thankfully George noticed Terry Yorath calling it a day. How long will it be before Burley is unveiled as Sheffield Wednesday's new manager?
Stoke are welcome to Pulis! He may have done a great job initially at Gillingham, but he soon became little more than a troublemaker and then did the same at Portsmouth. Good luck!
As a Pompey fan I can tell you that Pulis was a poor manager. Look where Portsmouth are without him! Sorry Stoke. You were a good team.
What a let down! After all the big names that were linked with the position, we end up with a complete nobody. Pulis will not be a long-term success and in the short-term Lou Macari was a better option.
Yet another cheap decision by the board of SCFC, when will they learn?
Good grief! This is a manager who spends more time suing his former clubs than actually managing them. What on earth have the Stoke board done?! How on earth can our chairman say that Pulis has got a track record of success and a good reputation in the game? This is farcical!
As a Bristol City fan may I pass on my commiserations to all Stoke fans. George Burley one day Tony Pulis the next. Odds on relegation.
Commiserations to the Stoke fans. What a dreadful choice as manager. Bristol City are still suffering from some of his diabolical decisions.
Tony Pulis is the worst football "manager" in the entire world. As a Bristol City fan I can say without fear of contradiction he single-handly ruined our club for three years inside six months.
He is the worst appointment Stoke could've made and I have enormous sympathy for all concerned. Sorry guys.
Stoke wanted Pulis to be their manager back 1999 but he chose Bristol City instead. He turned out be City's worst ever manager serving up dross football. Fortunately Portsmouth came to our rescue and snapped him up. He might keep Stoke up but don't expect to it with any style or flair.
Who needs George Burley? This is great news. His track record speaks for itself - just ask any Bristol City or Portsmouth fan, and they will tell you the same: Tony Pulis is the right man to take Stoke City back where they belong!!!
The fans I've been in contact with are furious, saying this is probably the worst pick Stoke could ever make. I don't know the man, but everyone says it's back to Division Two now.
To be honest, it's good to have anyone in the role, though I think Burley would have given us (Stoke fans) more confidence. Good luck to Pulis, hopefully he can steady the nerves and get us back in the fray at the top of the table, God knows we need it!
We've suffered in the past from having big names at the club in the twilight of their careers and talent; this ought to be an opportunity for Pulis to prove himself and that passion should have a positive effect on the squad.
This is outrageous! I for one (and a good number of my friends) feel that we Stoke City supporters have been sold down the river. We were promised a big name, a high profile manager, and Tony Pulis is not that!
It's a shame that Stoke missed out on George Burley. He would have been a great capture for them, but from Burley's perspective it would be a step down rather than a step up the managerial ladder.
My heart goes out to Stoke fans. As a Bristol City fan, I can honestly say that Pulis is the worst manager in the history of modern football. Dull 0-0 draws were the order of the days and 'triffic Tony's idea of a great cross is a punt from the half way line.
Do yourselves a favour and stay at home!
We've got Pulis because no-one else wanted the job under the present board, which says it all really. No investment, stupid ticket prices and the fans last choice as manager; these are very dark days for Stoke.
Good grief above, what have we done? I predict the players & fans will be demoralised by his methods within three months and the club relegated by Easter. I'm thinking of supporting Bristol City as a result (Pullis was there for a short while as well wasn't he?)....hold on, what am I saying? Help!
Why choose a manager with a poor record? Pompey have thrived without him. The lack of ambition is disheartening but I presume he was chosen for fiscal reasons.
Pulis did a superb job at Gillingham on a limited budget. However there do seem to have been behind the scenes events at both Gillingham and Portsmouth which may detract from the on the field action.
Tony Pulis is fondly remembered as the man who lifted Gillingham from third division obscurity to the brink of promotion to Division Two. The lesson to be learnt from his time at Bristol City and Portsmouth is not to give him a wad of cash to spend as he won't spend it wisely.
What you will get is fantastic team spirit, a never say die attitude and 100% commitment.
The Stoke board is an absolute disgrace. They have Premiership ideals, yet they put no money into our club and have rushed into this ludicrous appointment of Tony "hasn't a clue" Pulis. The aim for this season is to survive in Division One.
A strange decision, considering the amount of more experienced managers available at the present time; it could only be a financial decision. He was terrible for both Bristol and Pompey, where in both cases he brought in injury prone, second-rate players, and fell out with the board.
It obviously shows a lack of ambition for a big club with a loyal army of fans. I'd rather have seen Lou Macari back in charge.
I don't suppose 'with immediate effect' means that he could still change his mind at the last minute, does it? After all, what exactly does 'long-term commitment' mean these days?
From one extreme to another - from the highs of Burley yesterday to the lows of Pulis. Another mediocre decision from the board to employee a manager with a track record and yet again the fans have little to cheer.
I find it hilarious that Pulis should compare himself to Megson, when the very first decision the board made was to oust him!!! Remind me where is Megson now?
Let's just hope he silences his many critics.
They called him 'Clueless Pulis' at Bristol City.
Pulis is a poor manager, what has he ever done?
Another low division failure, with low division ideas. It is going to take more than another also-ran to drag us out of the mire. It shows that the limit of the ambition of my club now extends to one place above the relegation zone in Division One.
It saddens me that we are now so desperate that we can only attract these kinds of dull battlers. What ever happened to the Waddington boys?
Listen up Stoke fans! When Pulis managed Bristol City he bought in overpaid layabouts, got us relegated and left us in huge debt which we still haven't recovered from. Enjoy!
Down go Stoke!
A big name is what we needed to take us on to the next step and we get this bloke. What has he done in football? We will be playing Hartlepool next year in Division Two.
Best of luck to you ... you'll need it!
Mr Pulis should be banned from management for life. He is the worst manager I have ever seen down Ashton Gate and he totally messed the team up. He signed players who were injury prone and he signed Steve Jones for £500k from Charlton who couldn't hit a barn door. Mr Pulis you're the biggest joke in football. Now you are going to ruin Stoke City.
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