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Last Updated: Monday, 27 June, 2005, 12:43 GMT 13:43 UK
Pundits turn on Woodward
Sir Clive Woodward
The knives are out for Lions coach Sir Clive Woodward.

Former Wales and Lions players have not held back in their criticism after the dismal Lions display in the first Test defeat to New Zealand.

BBC Sport has gathered the views of JPR Williams, JJ Williams, Robert Jones, Eddie Butler and Gwyn Jones to see what went wrong and how the Lions can claw back some pride.


Fomer Wales and Lions full-back JPR Williams

JPR Williams, Wales and Lions full-back
All this citing business is actually trying to blow over the fact the Lions were totally out-played by the All Blacks.

Woodward is a man-manager. He has got six coaches under him. How can six coaches be of the same mind?

It was very, very disappointing. It was very embarrassing for me as an ex-Lions player to watch how badly the Lions played on Saturday.

I am very pleased Gareth Thomas has now come in as captain because I think he will lead from the front.

Brian O'Driscoll is a world-class player but I don't think his departure made any difference to the game at all. He hasn't played at all well on tour.

Maybe it is a blessing in disguise. Who knows? I think we will get better. I am not saying we will win, but with Gareth Thomas captain we will get better.


Former Wales and Lions winger JJ Williams

JJ Williams, Wales and Lions winger
Sir Clive Woodward claimed the Lions would be the best prepared team to leave these shores, but they looked like the worst ever Lions team on Saturday.

You could argue about the selection for the first Test but I didn't disagree much with the side. The lack of game time together was their main problem.

When you consider the amount of money being spent, you take the preparation for granted. But they looked like strangers and poorly coached.

That's the main complaint about Saturday's performance.


Former Wales captain Gwyn Jones

Gwyn Jones, former Wales captain
Sir Clive Woodward's responsibility was to take a collection of talented individuals and mould them into a team. That hasn't happened - not by a long shot.

They looked like a collection of individuals with no leadership in a very poor team.

It seems to me Sir Clive Woodward has concentrated on off-field matters instead of the basics like the scrum and lineout.

Plenty of thought was given to facing the haka by throwing a blade of grass in the air, but maybe more time should have gone into practicing throwing the ball into the line.


Former Wales and Lions scrum-half Robert Jones

Robert Jones, Wales and Lions
Sir Clive Woodward said he picked a team to dominate the lineout, and they obviously failed to do that.

They didn't secure enough possession, but when they had the ball they looked disorganised and pedestrian behind the scrum in attack.

It was such a disappointment to see even the Welsh players underperformed simply because they looked uncomfortable in the environment Sir Clive Woodward put them in.


Former Wales captain and Lions forward Eddie Butler

Eddie Butler, Wales and Lions
There's absolutely no way they can revert back to Plan A and try to redeem themselves by going out and trying to smash the All Blacks into submission.

They were given such a hammering in the first Test so that's simply not an option.

They were simply way off the pace and way off the subtleties that make a team efficient. There has been too much boloney spoken on this tour and not enough detail to basic rugby values.

So the Lions have to look for a different approach - and there is one to hand.

There is the Welsh approach which is to seek space and throw the ball wide. The cursed English approach of two years ago of seeking contact is now outdated.

The Welsh way is very much the current way of thinking. It was good enough to win a Grand Slam and it has to be better than what was served up on Saturday.

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