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Olympic decision as it happened


The moment Rio won its Olympic bid



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By Sam Lyon

1830: Congratulations, then, to Rio de Janeiro - a landmark victory and one that is sure to set up a carnival of an Olympic Games come 2016. Commiserations to Madrid, Tokyo and Chicago, who were a shock first-round casualty. Still, it would appear Rio benefitted from that by securing the support of Chicago's voters thereafter as, in the end, they cruised to victory. The party has started down in Rio, and I'm fairly sure it will continue long into the night... and possibly even to 2016 itself. Next up, London 2012. Are you ready?

ynori44 on 606: "Congratulations Rio!! You were my first choice. I will be there in 2016."

Duncan via text on 81111: "Very happy for Rio, not so happy for my bank balance, Rio is a hefty trek!"

1825: Following the election, IOC president Jacques Rogge said, "I would like to congratulate the city of Rio de Janeiro on its election as the host of the 2016 Games. Rio de Janeiro presented the IOC with a very strong technical bid, built upon a vision of the Games being a celebration of the athletes and sport, as well as providing the opportunity for the city, region and country to deliver their broader long-term aspirations for the future. This call to "live your passion" clearly struck a chord with my fellow members, and we now look forward to seeing Rio de Janeiro staging the first Olympic Games on the continent of South America. Well done, Rio!"

1820: All that really remains, then, is for me to reveal how the voting went. Here it goes...
First round: Madrid 28 votes; Rio de Janeiro 26; Tokyo 22; Chicago 18 (Chicago eliminated).
Second round: Rio 46; Madrid 29; Tokyo 20 (Tokyo eliminated)
Final round: Rio 66; Madrid 32 (Rio to host 2016 Games)

Sportsfan87 on 606: "I don't think Madrid should be too dejected when the time comes that Europe are next to host the Olympics, Madrid have set themselves up to be that city."

1815: London mayor Boris Johnson, meanwhile, has also sent a message of support to Rio de Janeiro, saying: "Hosting the greatest sporting event on the planet is a huge honour that will transform Rio de Janeiro as it is transforming London, even before the first starting gun has been fired. I am sure that, like London, your wonderful city will stage a fantastic Games for athletes and spectators alike. Enjoy this moment of well earned celebration. Although the real hard work now begins, I look forward to welcoming you and your 2016 team to our city in the coming years, and will be happy to share our experiences of the road to 2012 as Beijing has done with us both before and since their awesome summer Games in 2008."

Kevin, Walsall via text on 81111: "I think the celebrations in Trafalgar Square of four years ago are going to be rather overshadowed by the four-year long party that has now begun on the beaches of Rio."

1810: Lord Sebastian Coe on BBC: "It's a good decision. We're really happy to hand over to a country that put young people at the heart of its bid, and to a continent that has never before hosted the Games. I would not have wanted to vote myself today because it really was a tough call."

1805: "It's unbelievable, overwhelming and spectacular," beams Rio de Janeiro governor Sergio Cabral, which kind of sums it up really doesn't it? "We must congratulate Rio, and also the work that we Spaniards have done, it was excellent. It's a disappointment for us," Spain's Queen Sofia tells Spanish public television from Copenhagen.

Maria, Liverpool via text on 81111: "I've just decided to live in Brazil from 2013 to 2017. Who's with me?"

1800: Unbelievable scenes in Rio, then, while in Copenhagen football legend Pele has tears streaming down his face as the news starts to sink in. Disappointment for Madrid, Tokyo and Chicago, of course, but few will begrudge Rio their moment in the sun. Now the hard work starts, though...

BBC's Steve Kingston in Madrid: "People are dejectedly streaming out of the square. So near and yet so far for Madrid. I think if they were to be beaten by anybody, Madrid will be pleased to have been beaten by Brazil."

BBC's Gary Duffy in Rio: "The people of Rio have been streaming out of their offices onto the beach. The party is under way and it may last through the weekend."

redboychris on 606: "A huge well done for Rio de Janeiro a great day for the city and for Brazil."

1750: So there you have it. Joy unconfined for the delegates of Rio de Janeiro as they become the first South American city handed the role of hosts of the Olympic Games - just two years after they will host the 2014 Football World Cup. So near and yet so far for Madrid - just as in 2005 - but surely their time will come in the future.


1749: Time for the announcement...

1748:... but first, the Olympic anthem!

1747: There is the envelope - still sealed from the earlier vote - and the announcement is moments away. Are you ready? Welcome to the stage IOC president Jacques Rogge...

The BBC's Gary Duffy on Copacabana beach: "There's an unrestrained party atmosphere at Copacabana… there's a certain belief that this is South America's games."

1745: As British Olympic triple-jump champion Jonathan Edwards helps bring us highlights of the bid cities' presentations from earlier in the day, the agony merely continues. Our nerves and fingernails can only be thankful London aren't involved this time. For Rio de Janeiro and Madrid, though, the wait goes on... for now.

Kathy V via text on 81111: "My stomach is in knots waiting for the final decision. I'm hoping for Madrid - would be great to have three Olympics in a row in Europe!"

1730: Our live video is back at the top of the page, so manually refresh and enjoy the delights of the announcement ceremony. The winning bid city reveal is just minutes away now...

1720: A reminder, by the way, that the number of votes cast by the IOC members will only be revealed after the victor is announced - so only then will we learn just how split the International Olympic Committee voters were. That will undoubtedly be the last thing on Rio de Janeiro and Madrid's supporters' minds, though, with the result of the third and final round of voting the only thing they're thinking about. A Games debut in South America or joy for Madrid after coming so close to hosting 2012? We will find out in less than half an hour.

Kieran, Rio via text on 81111: "Spending my last day of a twoweek holiday on Copacabana beach and it is rocking. Rio would put on a great show, it is a very special city and deserves the first South American games."

Anon via text on 81111: "I think Madrid will win. Remember their bid is master-minded by Samaranch Senior."

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce: "This is the most tense part of an extraordinary day. We've been debating all day who could win this vote and we've been saying it was between Rio de Janeiro and Chicago. Well that turned out to be well wide of the mark, so while you have to say Rio are favourites ahead of Madrid when you bear in mind London are hosting 2012 and Sochi are hosting the Winter Olympics in 2014 - can we really see three Olympics in Europe in a row? - I'm reluctant to make any predictions after the shock of earlier."

redandblackT1899 on 606: "Seems the Obama lustre has well and truly worn out. Or maybe the Chicago bid was dead in the water long before today and not even Barack's oratory skills could save it. One to ponder!"

Ashley, London via text on 81111: "It would be great to see a Brazilian themed segment in the Closing Ceremony of London 2012 - it would be an interesting spectacle, especially if it rains!"

Mustangy on 606: "With no previous games having been celebrated in South America and 2012 being in London... Rio can hardly miss such chance surely? I am with Madrid - it being my hometown - but I believe Rio will win."

Anon via text on 81111: "I wouldn't be surprised if Madrid got it. They've got so much ready already. But although I love Madrid, it'd be exciting if Rio got it."

1650: Party time already in Rio de Janeiro - although, when isn't it on Copacabana beach? - and the crowds in Madrid are also breaking in their dancing shoes ahead of the official announcement in just under an hour. Olympics fans in Chicago and Tokyo lick their wounds, though, and not many will have predicted the former of those bowing out at the first hurdle. The emotional pleas of the Obamas fell on deaf ears then?

tigermilkboy on 606: "Intriguing! I think Rio and Madrid accumulated a large portion of votes first time round-Madrid picking up a large number of votes due to Juan Antonio Samaranch. Seems like a lot voted for Madrid in the first round to appease the ex-IOC President, not really expecting Chicago to get knocked out so early. Hence the surprise gasps! It must be Rio, it simply must be Rio."

BBC News' Adam Brookes in Chicago: "The shock of Chicago's elimination was greater for the fact that it came in the first round. And greater for the fact that President Obama had taken valuable hours from his packed and tense political schedule to travel to Copenhagen. His legendary powers of persuasion will be said to have failed him, though in reality it will be Chicago's bid that failed him. Nonetheless, this is a moment which allows the president's detractors to allege waning prestige on the part of his presidency. And it will raise questions about the political advice that he is receiving."

1635: We have a winner, people. No need for IOC president Jacques Rogge to use his vote and that means everyone - well, everyone except the Madrid and Rio delegates of course - can relax. The announcement ceremony kicks off at around 1730 BST, with the host city for the 2016 Olympic Games expected to be announced before 1800. Tense? I should coco.

1632: Not a huge surprise to see Tokyo drop out there - they entered today as big underdogs to win the bid - but could we be looking at a surprise to come, and Madrid pipping Rio de Janeiro?

1629: It comes down, then, to Rio de Janeiro and Madrid for the hosts of the 2016 Olympic Games.


1625: Well, isn't that a turn up for the books? Chicago are eliminated in the first round - cue audible gasps around the auditorium - and a second round of voting opens immediately.


1623: The vote closes and the scrutineers are now checking the results. If there is no majority for one city, remember, the city with the least votes will drop out and another vote will take place.

1622: The first round of voting for the 2016 Olympic Games host city is declared open.

Anon via text on 81111: "Tokyo has passion and dedication but in their own quiet way. Their vision for the Olympics focuses on two key current and future issues - technology and environment. Boring perhaps, but the bids should not be judged on which city can party the loudest or on the emotional pleas of their personalities."

1613: The process is under way - with the rather unglamorous duty of assigning numbers on the voting keypad to a city. For those who are interested, Tokyo have been assigned the number eight. Which won't mean much unless you're in possession of said keypad. In which case you're an IOC delegate checking this commentary from the voting room in Copenhagen. Which is nice. Hello!

1608: BBC TV coverage has kicked into gear, people, with the live video stream at the top of this page (give the page a cheeky refresh if you can't see it). Now - here's how voting works. There will be an initial vote. If, as expected, no city wins a majority, the bid with the least votes will be eliminated and another vote will take place. This will continue until one country boasts a majority of the IOC member votes. This is very likely to go all the way to the third round, folks, given this is expected to be the closest bid vote in recent memory, possibly ever. Chew those nails...

Fraser, London via text on 81111: "I have just got back from Chicago and there is a real passion and desire to get this bid, especially amongst the African American and Hipsanic communities who will benefit the most from the regeneration this would bring."

1600: Pictures coming through of the gatherings in the four cities as the vote and announcement draw ever nearer and it's safe to say one of the quartet is going to have an absolute ball at some point this afternoon. Whether they will match the Trafalgar Square extraganza of four years ago is another matter, of course, what a party that turned out to be.

Anon via text on 81111: "Madrid has so much to offer, more than some think. There is real passion, dedication and desire behind this. It has united the country amidst harsh economic times."

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce on Twitter: "Voting starts in fifteen minutes. Standing now with press guys from the four cities. Feel so sorry for them. This wait is horrible."

Community leader Jorge Rosa da Cruz on BBC's Brazilian Service: "It is going to be just like the Pan-American games. They will come with escorts, in expressways, get straight into the sports centre and won't ever come in here, inside the community. Of course we like the idea of having the Olympics here in Rio. But we would like even better to have the sports facilities of the community well taken care of."

Resident Adriana Tourinho on BBC's Brazilian Service:"This (the Rio bid) is something for rich people not for the poor. The Olympics coming to Rio is good for one bad for the other. It's true that Brazil and Rio de Janeiro deserve to host the Olympic Games but at the same time we have so many problems that it doesn't seem to right spending money with this."

1540: Right, with 10 minutes to go until the test vote gets under way (proper vote 1610-1640), here's the final 'wire take' of the day as Madrid's presentation comes under the microscope. AP report that former IOC president Juan Antonio Samaranch "made an unusual appeal for Madrid" and "reached out to voters" when he reminded IOC members that he is 89. They added: "Samaranch still has influence with some members and could swing a few crucial votes in Madrid's favour." AFP felt Spanish prime minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero delivered a "markedly more sober and dry speech compared to his political counterparts from Chicago, Rio de Janeiro and Tokyo, but packed a serious message."

djlovesyou on 606: "Chicago may have to hope they get a majority early in the voting procedure because if Madrid get eliminated before they win it, most voters that went for Madrid will probably jump to Rio in the next round."

WRaleigh on 606: "1 Chicago. 2 Madrid. 3 Rio. 4 Tokyo. I think all these presentations are irrelevant ...there is no way that they are going to say no to Obama! Madrid number two because it seems like the best bid to me."

Jodie in Virginia, US, on World Have Your Say blog: "As an American and as much as I would be delighted if the Olympics were staged in Chicago, I think it is most appropriate for Brazil to be selected as its host. Latin America, like Africa is often perceived as the poor sister that cannot compete with "the North". I think it is time to put Latin America on the world stage as an equal."

1520: While the IOC Evaluation Committee make their final report, then, a (very) brief look at one of the main selling points of the four bids. Madrid - No bidding city public wants it more. Tokyo - The green Games. Rio de Janeiro - South America is due an Olympic Games. Chicago - A financially sound bid backed by US president Obama. Much more to the bids than that, though, and a huge amount for the voters to consider.

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce on Twitter: "Good presentation from Madrid that. They are a big threat to Rio, as they are thought to share many of the same voters."

1505: Pure emotion from Juan Antonio Samaranch on behalf of the Madrid bid there, the honorary life-time president of the IOC saying: "I know that I am very near the end of my time. I am, as you know 89 years old. May I ask you to consider granting my country the honour and also the duty to organise the games in 2016. Thank you." Alongside Samaranch, Madrid really tried to pull out the big guns - Spain's King Juan Carlos, Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero and Real Madrid captain Raul were all present. Too little too late, or the coup de grace?

Saltmartin on 606: "Some tough questions there for the Madrid bid team from the IOC members, especially concerning the anti-doping issues. This may have slightly derailed a technically sound bid."

50in50 on 606: "Having seen all the videos, and giving it some thought, my choices would be: 1: Rio. 2: Tokyo. 3: Chicago. 4: Madrid

1453: The Madrid presentation finishes, meaning all four bidding cities have had their chance to persuade IOC members to give them their vote. Next up is a report by the IOC Evaluation Commission, giving their final assessment of each bid. Time to start chewing those fingers. After that we're looking at the start of voting at around 1610.

Angus Walker via text on 81111: "Would Chicago be at a disadvantage because the athletics records will be wind-assisted?"

burringo on 606: "Madrid has everything required to host the Olympics. Everything else is just politics."

Madrid's Olympic bid video

1425: I wonder what impact the comments of Spain's Olympic vice-president Jose Maria Odriozola will have on the IOC member votes this afternoon? Odriozola, of course, publicly labelled Rio de Janeiro "the worst of the four candidates" - a statement for which the Madrid team later apologised - contravening IOC rules asking host cities not to criticise other bids. A bad move?

BBC sports news correspondent James Munro: "Madrid will fancy their chances. They are certainly pretty confident of getting through first round of voting. Juan Antonio Samaranch junior began their presentation and introduced his father, an ex-president of the IOC, who was received to great applause. That is one of Madrid's strengths as he knows these people and how they vote. The big disadvantage for Madrid, of course, is that London will host the 2012 Games."

vivalavilla on 606: "I would love to see it go to Rio - the greatest stadium in the world, The Maracana, will be restored by then as it is being used for the 2014 World Cup. Failing that then I would like Tokyo as I don't believe it should go back to Europe or the US quite so soon."

Sammy via text on 81111: "Having just returned from Rio, the Olympic spirit is in the heart of everyone there. It is not only a wonderful setting to stage the games but the benefits are enormous."

1405: Ooh - it's that time again - here are some facts of the Madrid bid. The proposed budget is $6.2bn, with $317m set aside for new venues and all costs covered by the government, though more than 65 sponsors are already in place for the bid. Bid organisers say that 70% of the venues are complete, though the 70,000-seat Olympic stadium and the basketball arena must be built. For those of you who like a drink and a boogie (heaven knows that's not me, obviously), Madrid boasts 33,000 bars and nightclubs. Plenty of opportunity for celebration/sorrow-drowing then. Is that an IOC consideration?

psychocuda on 606: "I'm a resident of the Chicago area, and nearly everyone I talk to thinks having the Olympics here would be a terrible thing."

Anon via text on 81111: "RE: 13:05 - "Everyone here expects to win"... Anyone feel parallels between Chicago and Paris four years ago?"

1345: Here we go, then, Madrid - the last of the candidates to make their presentation - enter the room for their potentially make-or-break hour. At the start of the day the Spanish capital was ranked by bookmakers as a fair way behind Chicago and Rio de Janeiro in the running, but then London wasn't exactly a stand-out favourite in 2005 was it? My money is firmly in the ol' sky rocket...

adrianaar86 on 606: "Why has everyone written off Madrid? I think their bid is good and the culture which Madrid could offer would far exceed any of the other cities in question. The food alone should win them the bid!"

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce: "Who would've thought the possibility of hosting a Games would attract a king, a president and a prime minister? That's what happened here and underlines just how important this day is for the four cities. The news of the day appears to have been dominated by Chicago and the Obamas, but there are three other excellent bids to consider. And apologies if you want me to reveal who is going to win - the honest answer is that I, along with everyone, remain very much in the dark."

Nathan in S Wales via text on 81111: "If Chicago wins, anyone want to place a bet on which media outlet resorts to the use of the word "Obamalympics" first? Rio, for me, by the way."

1325: And if you'd rather not read soundbites from 'experts', why not have a look at our "Postcards from the Bid Cities" video, where a collection of the respective city's "ordinary citizens" lend their views?

BBC World Service sports news correspondent Alex Capstick: "A lot of people say Madrid is probably the outsider because of geography - the 2012 Olympics is in London, followed by the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, the Russian resort on the Black Sea. It seems unlikely the IOC will select another European city for an Olympic Games but the IOC members are very unpredictable, you never quite know what's going to happen so having said that it wouldn't be a surprise if Madrid was chosen."

1315: And with Madrid's turn up on stage due in around half an hour, what of their chances of bettering their 2012 bid? Five live sports reporter Matthew Williams says: "Well the fact is the Games will be held in London four years previously so are they going to be staying in Europe? I think that's unlikely. The good things going in their favour is how close to beating London for 2012 they were. They have a good compact bid with a lot of venues within a short distance of each other, there is a lot of political will behind them and one of their advocates Juan Antonio Samaranch is a very powerful man within the IOC having been president from 1980 until 2001. But with London hosting the Games in 2012 and with Russia hosting the 2014 winter Games, I would be surprised if they came back to Europe so soon."

Chilly_Philly on 606: "I'm actually pretty on the fence about the winner, although it would be brilliant for each city to win in their own way - for Rio, it'd be a breakthrough and moral beacon for South America to follow; for Tokyo, proof that the future is not as distant as it seems; for Madrid, hard evidence that they can better even Barcelona's efforts; and for Chicago an example of passion."

1305: In Chicago, Amy Jacobson reporter for WLS Radio: "Optimism is growing here in Chicago especially after that wonderful and emotional closing speech by Michelle Obama. I'm down on Daley Plaza, where they are getting ready for a huge party - everyone here expects to win. They are going to broadcast the decision live in the heart of the city and we are expecting thousands of people to come down and cheer on Chicago."

1300: And what about the Tokyo reaction? Here's Fred Varcoe, sports editor of Metropolis magazine in Tokyo, responding to reports in Copenhagen by Radio 5 Live's Sports News and Olympics Correspondent Gordon Farquhar that the Tokyo presentation was a bit drab: "I think 'efficient' is the word I would probably use. The Japanese aren't very good at expressing emotion too much. What they lack is a charismatic figure but that shouldn't be an essential part of the process. Essentially Tokyo is a safe pair of hands - they have the best organisation with all the finance in place and all the experience they need."

Sailor supports Rio bid

1250: How are the folks in each of these cities behaving on "decision day" then, I hear at least three of you - yes you too, the one at the back - ask? Well Five Live have been talking to journalists in each of the bid cities and here's the word from Rio (Chicago, Tokyo and Madrid to follow): "Why Rio? 100% of the population are totally involved in the bid. Everybody wants it and we're going to have a big party to celebrate if we get the decision. People are out on the beach already, waiting for the result. Rio would be the Olympics for passion, entertainment and fun," says Silio Bocanero, the London correspondent for Brazilian TV channel Global News.

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce on Twitter: "At this stage four years ago I was so nervous because of London I couldn't eat. Today I'm looking forward to tucking into a chunky sandwich."

Jinadine on 606: "I know this sounds fickle, but Rio & Tokyo would host great opening ceremonies. A carnival-esque ceremony would be amazing."

David, London via text on 81111: "Lula was right to speak in Portuguese. USA would mean two Anglophone Games in a row. All very homogenised."

1235: Copenhagen at this very moment, is a hive of activity for all the IOC members and bid teams - that's right, it's lunchtime. Which gives me a chance to give you the news wires' take on Rio de Janeiro's bid. "Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva told IOC members Friday it was time to address the 'imbalance.' Rio's bid leaders added they would deliver a safe Olympics, and that the Brazilian economy could guarantee financial stability," reported AP, with AFP remarking: "Passion, flair, a thriving economy and the symbolic pull of bringing the Games to South America for the first time were the key themes deployed by the Rio 2016 bid."

F1isfab on 606: "I think Tokoyo should have it, logical choice with so many venues already ready. In this recession it is only sensible to go to the most equipped of the nations, so for me it is Tokoyo, though I still expect Chicago to win it."

BBC sports news correspondent James Munro in Copenhagen: "All the bids so far have been very competent. Chicago want to be seen as the safe option and Tokyo were very efficient but Rio went with the emotion, the passion and the opportunity to have the first Olympics in South America - they think it is their turn. Madrid will give the final presentation shortly."

1219: So, here's more from Brazil President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva's address to the IOC members: "Rio is ready. If you give us the chance, you won't regret it. The Games in Rio will be unforgettable, full of passion, joy and creativity of the Brazilian people. It is time for the Olympics to come to a tropical nation, in a beautiful city. Our people are warm and we want to send a clear message - the Olympics belong to everyone, every continent, all of humanity."

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce on Twitter: "Difficulty for Rio emphasised by their President speaking in Portuguese. Hard to compete with the rhetoric of the Obamas."

IOC representative Craig Reedie talking to BBC World Service sports news correspondent Alex Capstick: "What I want to see is cities stand up there with a really terrific motivational address to say to me why they really want the Games to be held in their city."

1210: By way of an indication of just how fleeting US President Obama's visit to Copenhagen was, Air Force One has just departed Denmark. A fleeting visit, yes, but also one that underlines Obama's crucial support of the Chicago bid. Will it make all the difference?

madnorm on 606: "Must admit I never realised South America had never hosted the Olympics. For that reason alone I've got my fingers crossed for Rio today. Good luck."

1203: A little aside, by the way - U2 lead singer Bono could have an indirect say in where this afternoon's vote goes. Chicago employed U2's "Where the Streets Have No Name" in their presentation (leading one wag to comment: "Well that will make it difficult getting to the stadia"), while Tokyo also displayed a picture of Bono in their presentation. He gets everywhere the little fella doesn't he?

Phil, Surrey, via text on 81111: "Re. Michael Barter (below). While hard cash and construction jobs may be short lived, the opportunities to promote urban regeneration cannot be understated. Rio has so much more to gain."

Saltmartin on 606: "A very powerful and emotional plea to the IOC from Rio. All speakers for the Committee quivering with emotion, including the Brazilian President. It's going to be a tough choice for the IOC to choose I reckon - Rio or Chicago."

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce on Twitter: "Just been speaking to Lord Sebastian Coe. He reckons the IOC members loved Michelle Obama earlier."

1151: Brazil President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, the latest leader to back his country's bid, tells the IOC delegates: "we're a mixed people and we like being a mixture." So what are the facts of the bid? Well Rio has the largest proposed budget at $14.4bn, with $11.6bn for construction and infrastructure costs - all of which will be underwritten by the government. Bid organisers anticipate 34 venues, including 18 existing facilities, many along the city's picturesque beaches. The 90,000-seater Olympic stadium is already being renovated for the 2014 Football World Cup. As for big names - alongside the president, football legend Pele is a big feather in the bid's cap.

From World Update programme: American commentator Michael Carter said about the fallacy of the Olympic economic boom. "The Olympics does offer a fallacy of consumption because it is perceived that it will bring in a lot more jobs, it will bring in more people who will spend in the economy. But it's (the spending) often very short lived, and the job creation is equally as short lived."

Sportsfan87 on 606: "Personally I think this is a shootout between Tokyo and Rio de Janiero."

1138: So Rio de Janeiro are on stage at the moment, bidding to become the first South American city to ever host the Olympic Games. The city's presentation, led by Brazil President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, got going with the message that, according to Forbes magazine, Rio is "the happiest city in the world". The Brazilian city is regarded as Chicago's closet rival to land the Games and it is these stages that can often prove critical in where the votes go. Crucial hour for Rio.

Anon via text on 81111: "Madrid is incredibly well prepared. Fingers crossed."

nedmerrill on 606: "Fairness may not win any prizes, but just look at the three core Olympic values: Excellence, Respect, Friendship. In the spirit of Friendship, so far South America is the biggest loser alongside Africa in the Olympic family. Africa may struggle still due to economics, but you can't say that about Brazil anymore."

Tony Tewbut, Market Drayton via text on 81111: "If the USA get the Olympics again that would mean they would've had three out of the last nine - is that a fair representation of the six continents?"

1121: With Rio de Janeiro now on stage for their presentation, here's how the news wires reviewed Tokyo's bid. "Japanese leaders urged the IOC to give the 2016 Games to Tokyo to build bridges with the world and ensure a green event for future generations," reported AFP, while AP explained: "Tokyo made its case to host the 2016 Olympics as the best bid for athletes." Meanwhile, Reuters also underlined Tokyo's bid to host a green Games, labelling their presentation "a marked change of tone" from that of Chicago's.

Casey on World Have Your Say blog: "I don't think this is a good time for the US to get the Olympics at all. We really don't need it at this time and it could even be an economic disaster. I like the idea of Brazil getting it. Seems only fair, really. Don't get me wrong - I love the Olympics. Not sure why, but I do get excited about them. I'll get just as excited if they are in Brazil - maybe more so."

Denis from London via text on 81111: "RE Chris from Notts (below) - America hosted the world cup in 1994, and then Atlanta hosted the games in 1996, it should make no difference."

1104: Tokyo's bid is now wrapped up, then, with bid executive board member Mikako Kotani presenting: "As Olympians and Paralympians, we know the games should be held in the city that offers the best stage for athletes. That is our Tokyo." Whichever way you see this going, literally no-one can accurately guarantee the result of this afternoon's secret ballot. It is all to play for.

green1773 on 606: "Rotation is not as important as it used to be and fairness is not a reason to get the Olympics."

Chris in Notts via text on 81111: "Not sure if the IOC will take into account that Brazil has the World Cup in 2014. That could go against them? I tip Chicago to pip them."

1051: If this is your first foray into Olympic bid politics, why not have a butcher's at Gordon 'Five Live' Farquhar's recent blog on the behind-the-scenes activities pre-bid day? If you were happily thinking this is just another relaxed bid race, here are GF's observations: "There's so much spin going on in the lobby and bars of the Marriott in Copenhagen, I'm surprised the hotel isn't ripping off its foundations and starting to revolve... Four years ago in Singapore, when London came away with the spoils, it was pretty intense at this time. Here, it feels even more so. Hearts will be in mouths. The tension is building." Yes - it really is that big. Massive.

Hatoyama supports Tokyo Olympic bid

demlon on 606: "What an exciting race to the finish. I think all of the cities would be great hosts and all are capable of pulling it off but they all seem to their weaknesses as well. I think its between Chicago and Rio but its been an exciting contest so far and maybe we will all be shocked."

1042: While Chicago's bid relied heavily on president Obama, so Tokyo's was based around newly-elected Japan prime minister Yukio Hatoyama. Here's what he has to say on his city's plans to host a 'green Games': "Tokyo will show the world how a great metropolis can host an Olympics without harming the environment. Tokyo will provide a Games which assures personal security and environmental stability. It will show a harmony between humanity and nature." Hatoyama, who only came into office two weeks ago, also wants Tokyo to be at the heart of the enthusiasm and hope the Olympics represent, adding: "The fraternity of the Japanese has been always my philosophy and through that building bridges with the world. It would be a great honour and privilege for the Japanese people to host the Olympics again, to savour together the image of the Olympic Games. We would honour the Olympic Charter in letter and spirit."

Francisco from London via text on 81111: "It is time to change! Except for Rio, all the countries in the bid have already hosted an Olympic event! And on top of that Brazil is the only country that will use the games to really develop its infrastructure for athletes."

1027: Who wants some Tokyo bid facts then? Oh yes, you know it. They may be dark horses in this four-horse race, but they are very much in it to win it and who knows where the members' second, third and fourth choices will go in the vote? Their budget is $4.4bn, with the government funding half of the construction bill. Bid organisers plan 95% of 34 venues within a five-mile radius of downtown, including a 100,000-seat Olympic stadium on the waterfront, and boast 23 existig venues, with land secured for 11 new facilities. An IOC poll, by the way, showed 56% of Tokyo residents support the bid.

Anu D on World Have Your Say blog: "My gut feeling is with Brazil. Helped by their deep water oil finds and other exports they have risen sharply as an economy and hence as a emerging power. The most internationally well aligned and non-controversial of Latin american nations, with first world like facilities for tourists and a holiday destination anyway. Brazil has a lot going in it's favor. And if Olympic Association also has an unspoken objective of spreading it's footprint on that continent. Brazil is a natural fit."

Radio 5 Live's Sports News and Olympics Correspondent Gordon Farquhar in Copenhagen: "The new Japanese prime minister Yukio Hatoyama has made his speech to IOC members and Tokyo's message was very interesting. They focused on environmental concerns and their plans to make 2016 the greenest Games ever by planting hundreds of trees - a tree sea forest as they put it - and using solar panels in the Olympic stadium. They kicked off their presentation with a 15-year-old gymnast talking about being part of the future - It got a round of applause but didn't have the pizazz and polish of the Chicago presentation we saw earlier on."

rapidcaptain on 606: "My thoughts: Madrid - No, London and then another European city 4 years on? Chicago - No, Atlanta 96, although it will be 20yrs by then. Tokyo - Good shout. Rio - Party Time! What an amazing show that'd be!"

BBC sports news correspondent James Munro on the countdown to the 2016 decision, expected around 1800 BST: "It has been a very intense few days in Copenhagen, particularly in the hotel where the IOC members are staying. It is an intense lobbying experience and it is too close to call - the presentations today, that last for about an hour for each city, could make all the difference. There are IOC members inside the hall who have not yet made up their minds and those few votes could make all the difference."

1015: So, Tokyo - whose presentation was kick-started by a 15-year-old gymnast, underlining the bid's desire to involve the children of the city should the 2016 Games be awarded them - are just wrapping up their 45-minute stand in Copenhagen, but many believe they will really have to pull something out of the fire if they are to rival the two cities considered by many to be the front-runners - Chicago and Rio de Janeiro. However, as BBC Sport's Matt Slater pointed out in his blog in August, "my guess is that we'll be left with the same equation: the IOC's heart calling for Copacabana but its head worrying about crime and passing up the riches on offer in Chicago - a confusion that might just let in Madrid or Tokyo."

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce on Twitter: "By the way, the Chicago presentation overran by two minutes. In theory IOC President Jacques Rogge should have stopped Obama before he finished."

1001: Did you know... From the Chicago Olympic village, about 90% of the athletes are within 15 minutes of their venues? A Chicago Tribune/WGN poll found that 47% of Chicago residents support the bid? Windy City neighbourhoods consist of 26 nationalities of more than 25,000 people apiece? No? Well, you do now. You're welcome.

Anon via text: "I'm not in the slightest anti-American, I visit regularly and enjoy the diversity of the country... but another American city, again? Really? The IOC needs to send the games elsewhere, Rio being the ideal choice!"

0955: Here's how the news wires are reporting Chicago's bid - and no surprises for guessing the Obamas are big, big news. "Led by President Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, Chicago made a heartfelt and, at times, very personal plea for the 2016 Olympics," reported AP. Reuters opened their review of the bid with: "Chicago played its two trump cards on Friday, US President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle both making impassioned speeches." And the AFP report mused: "US President Barack Obama took a brief respite on Friday from a packed political agenda to visit Copenhagen on a mission to capture the 2016 Olympics for his cherished hometown of Chicago... he is taking somewhat of a political risk in putting his presidential prestige on the line."

Saltmartin on 606: "The emotional pull could be enough for Rio De Janerio and it would certainly be a spectacular venue for the games in a continent where it has never been. It all depends on their presentation though."

BBC sports news correspondent James Munro: "The Chicago bid really came alive when the Obamas came to the fore in their presentation - it is now a question of whether their impact is big enough to sway the IOC voters to their city."

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce on Twitter: "Tokyo presenting at the moment. No way they can compete with the Obamas, even though they have Japanese Prime Minister here to argue their case."

0937: While Tokyo kick off their presentation then, a few Chicago bid facts for you. Their proposed budget is $4.8bn, with $994m for construction and operation costs and a £2.5bn safety net in public and private funds. The Games will be based mainly around Lake Michigan in 31 venues, 15 of which already exist - most notably Soldier Field and the United Center. As an aside, Chicago residents buy 8m tickets to sporting events each year.

MarkE, Stevenage via text on 81111: "Just recalling how unbearable the tension was at decision time four years ago - only now do you begin to feel for the three losing bid cities. I'm hoping for a Madrid surprise victory, they had most votes at Round two of voting last time around but lost a lot of ground to us after New York went out."

Steveo77 on 606: "Chicago v Rio de Janeiro is the real contest with the Obama factor likely to swing it in favour of the Americans."

0926: Chicago entered today slight favourites to win the 2016 Games, lest we forget - although many will concede this year's race is just too close to call. As well as the Obamas' presence, the likes of basketball legend Michael Jordan, TV talk show host Proah Winfrey and secretary of state Hillary Clinton have all lent their support - and as shown by Tony Blair's influence in 2005 and Vladimir Putin's in 2007, personalities can be absolutely crucial to a bid team's success.

Obama supports Chicago Olympic bid

zorlack1966 on 606: "I'd like to see a Chicago win, the city has such a rich tapestry of sporting culture and history. Not to say the other cities don't, but I just feel there is something special about the windy city this year. Maybe it's because Barack Obama is from there - at the moment everything he touches seems to turn to gold."

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce on Twitter: "My analysis of Chicago presentation: Michelle Obama absolutely fantastic - she spoke with real passion and in some ways upstaged her husband - and President Obama was very good. Rest average."

0915: So, the hard part for Chicago might just be done and dusted - and as expected the bid presentation was dominated by President Barack Obama and the first lady. Michelle opened up, referring to her father as her inspiration for bringing the Games to her hometown. "I am not just asking you to give us the Games as a Chicagoan or as an American, but also as a daughter. My father would have been so proud to see us here bidding for the Games," she said. President Obama followed with an empassioned plea to the IOC members to select Chicago as the host city, saying: "I was born in Hawaii and was taken to Indonesia so I never really had roots until I came to Chicago and discovered this most American of cities which nevertheless possesses 130 different ethnic groups. It is a rich tapestry of neighbourhoods. If you choose us we walk this path together."

BBC sports news correspondent James Pearce on Twitter: "Big day ahead in Copenhagen. So much at stake for the for the bids."

0907: A quick breakdown of today's timetable, then. Well, the Chicago bid team has already made their 45-minute presentation (followed by a 15-minute question-and-answer session) to the IOC members and are meeting the media as we speak - more on that in a bit - with Tokyo up at 0930, Rio de Janeiro at 1110 and Madrid last up at 1350. Following this there will be an IOC Evaluation Committee report, voting, and then the announcement ceremony from about 1730. We have reporters in Copenhagen and eyes and ears around all the teams and voters - what we don't have yet is you lot. I want you to get involved via text on 81111 or over on 606 and lend me your thoughts. Do it - and do it well - and I can make you web famous for 15 minutes. It's almost too much power for one man alone to hold some might say, but there you go.

0900: Four years and 86 days ago, Trafalgar Square played host to scenes of stunning celebration and a party to rival any thrown by Corey "Myspace" Delaney. It was July 2005 and London had been awarded the 2012 Olympic Games following a keenly fought contest against the likes of Paris and Madrid, and the start of a potentially legacy-building process began. Well today is the turn of either Chicago, Madrid, Rio de Janeiro or Tokyo. An International Olympic Committee ceremony in Copenhagen, due to conclude some time after 1730 BST, will select the hosts of the 2016 Olympic Games and it has come down to that quartet. Bed down now for a day of twists, turns, votes and vol-au-vents as I bring you all the gossip and news from Denmark, where experts have already been describing this as the closest bid process in history. It could be a bumpy ride.

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