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Dundee fans take Stirling Albion counsel

Stirling Albion fans campaigned successfully to take over the running of their club
Binos fans campaigned successfully to take over the running of their club

Dundee fans have been taking advice from their counterparts at Stirling Albion on how they can get involved in the running of the Dens Park club.

Dundee are in administration, with debts of around £2m, while Stirling Albion Supporters' Trust acquired their club in the summer.

Binos director Paul Goodwin said: "We've been talking about the models we looked at and how we run the club.

"And we've offered our services to help in any way we can."

Dundee travel to Stirling Albion with a much-depleted squad, with the administrator having made nine players redundant on Friday as well as removing the management team of Gordon Chisholm and Billy Dodds.

And Goodwin can relate to the anguish being felt by Dundee supporters, who are dealing with administration for the second time in seven years.

"Our hearts go out to all the Dundee supporters who have been through this once before," he told BBC Radio Scotland.

"We were 12 hours away from administration and it's an awful situation.

"The fans are in a strong position to negotiate with the administrator because, at the end of the day, they are the people who will make that club function in the future.

"Without their money, there is no club.

With two clubs in the town, one can feed off the other - the derby game is probably one of the biggest in Scottish football

Bobby Geddes
Dundee goalkeeping coach

"But it's very difficult when you are in administration because you are fighting to claw in money just to keep the club going."

Goodwin revealed that they will be splitting the proceeds of a lottery draw, auctioning a signed shirt and making a £250 donation to the Dundee Supporters' Trust.

"It's a gesture to kick-start their fund-raising," he explained. "These small amounts all add up."

Meanwhile, Dundee goalkeeping coach Bobby Geddes, one of those to survive Friday's cull of staff, believes the city needs both of its clubs in a healthy condition.

"We were going well last season and probably had an average gate of more than 5000, which is more than some Premier League clubs were getting," he told BBC Radio 5 live.

"If the club is run properly, we should be able to support that.

"With two clubs in the town, one can feed off the other - the derby game is probably one of the biggest in Scottish football.

"The last time Dundee United's ground was full was when Dundee played there, with the exception of Celtic and Rangers coming up to win the league."

On the subject of the league visit to Forthbank, Geddes said little planning had been done.

Youth coach Barry Smith is overseeing a squad that has been reduced to little more than 11 senior players.

"There has not been any thought about formations or anything," added Geddes. "Up until yesterday at two o'clock, nobody knew which players were going to be left."



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see also
Dundee future 'hangs in balance'
15 Oct 10 |  Dundee
Stirling Albion 1-1 Dundee
16 Oct 10 |  Scottish League
Axed Dundee players seek clarity
15 Oct 10 |  Dundee
Dundee sale possible - MacKinnon
15 Oct 10 |  Dundee
Administrator appointed by Dundee
08 Oct 10 |  Dundee
Dundee director bullish on future
27 Sep 10 |  Dundee
Dundee contemplate Melville role
23 Sep 10 |  Dundee


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