"You could say the same about Hull as well, not particularly fancied, not one of the first sides that will come off your tongue when you're talking about promotion candidates but the two sides who have been consistently good performers."
The former Nottingham Forest and England captain, no stranger to big occasions at Wembley, says that this year's Championship play-off final is too close to call.
"It's who handles the occasion the best on the day," he said. "I wouldn't like to say to be quite honest.
"I think whichever team gets up deserves to get up, and both managers have done a fantastic job for their teams this year."
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