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Carling Cup as it happened

QUARTER-FINALS (kick-offs 1945 GMT)
FT Burnley 2-0 Arsenal Report
FT Stoke 0-1 Derby Report

GOALFLASHES AND MAJOR INCIDENTS (all times GMT)

606: DEBATE
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By Jonathan Stevenson

2200: Well who would've predicted that? Great night for the Championship as Burnley and Derby County march on into the Carling Cup semi-finals. But who will be there with them? Join the delightfully festive Caroline Cheese tomorrow to find out. See you soon.

2157: "Can we just loan Nicklas Bendtner out and give his pink boots to charity? Please Arsene."
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2154: "It's a beautiful evening for all the fans and everyone. I came out on top today, but another day I won't. It's been a rollercoaster for me, Burnley, but full credit to all the lads, they worked so hard for that."
Burnley keeper Brian Jensen on BBC Radio 5 Live

2152: Danny the Stat, Danny the Stat, it's Danny the Stat: "Unstoppable goalscoring machine Kevin McDonald is, quite simply, the king of the Player Rater. He has "broken the eight" (that'll definitely catch on, unlike "breaking the seven"), with 8.15. Fellow eight-breaker Brian Jensen can celebrate with him, flaunting his 8.05 score like a medal. Very low scores for the Arsenal youngsters. Harsh? Maybe. If you think so, get - as they say - involved."
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2149: "Arsenal are a great team, but we knew that if we closed them down and put them under pressure we could do it. The gaffer is very attack-minded and we've got some really talented players. As for Brian Jensen, he made some great saves and he's a credit to the club."
Burnley's Chris Eagles on BBC Radio 5 Live

2147: By the way, don't forget that in 12 minutes Danny Baker will be back on air on BBC Radio 5 Live on 606. Get your limericks in for the great man - he usually gets what he wants in the end.
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2145: "Yes! He can keep fluffing it in the league if his goals are going to take us to Wembley. Get in, Nathan! You Rams!"
shepherdsbushRam, via text on 81111

Congratulations. Honestly.

2143: "Rob Styles has a thing for controversial penalties doesn't he?"
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2141: It was a handball by Stoke captain Andy Griffin at the Britannia Stadium, from a chip by Derby County's Przemyslaw Kazmierczak. What an extraordinary finish to tonight's proceedings.

2140: Full-time Stoke City 0-1 Derby County

2139: Full-time Burnley 2-0 Arsenal

2138: GOAL Stoke 0-1 Derby
Nathan Ellington puts Derby into the semi-finals with the spot-kick after a handball in the Stoke penalty area. Unbelievable scenes.

2138: PENALTY TO DERBY

2138: "Owen Coyle has got his tactics spot on. They're harassing Arsenal the whole time and have completely drowned out our creativity, especially by marking Ramsey out of the game. They've ridden their luck at times but that was inevitable. Worthy winners."
Terry at Turf Moor, via text on 81111

2136: Jay Simpson falls in the box and nothing is given, a decision which enrages Fran Merida, who is booked.

2135: Four minutes of injury time at Burnley. They're playing stoppage time at Stoke, too, where extra-time looms.

2134: "So any of my fellow Arsenal fans think Bendtner is a good striker? He's been terrible and can't score to save himself or the team."
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2131: How did that not go in? Carlos Vela clips in a ball to Nicklas Bendtner six yards out and Brian Jensen does brilliantly again to smother the first shot, the rebound deflecting off the striker and flying just wide. Jensen's earned some luck, to be fair to the Dane.

2130: Mikel Silvestre tries an ambitious effort from long range, but it's not even close. Time rapidly running out for the Gunners.

2129: Chris Eagles lets fly from 25 yards, but the shot is blocked. He's been very impressive tonight, especially his delivery from wide areas - a touch of the David Beckham about his crossing, if I may be so bold.

2127: Roughly eight minutes to go plus stoppage time in tonight's quarter-finals.

2124: "Maybe I just don't follow Europe's other major football countries' happenings close enough, but English football seems the most fascinating at the moment, and this from a Finnish perspective."
Arthur, via text on 81111

2121: Wade Elliott comes on for veteran Burnley striker Robbie Blake.

2120: Much more going on a Stoke now and young Miles Addison has hit the foot of the post for Derby.

2118: Ricardo Fuller tees up Mamady Sidibe and his shot misses the target by a whisker as Stoke continue to try and break the deadlock against Derby. Should have done better.

2118: Martin Paterson has put in a great shift tonight and he goes off, replaced by one-time Premier League striker Ade Akinbiyi.

2118: "Mark Randall is rubbish. He needs to be farmed out to the Championship for at least two years before he even becomes half-decent. Ever since his early second half yellow card, he hasn't got one pass right or even attempted a single tackle."
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2116: Mark Randall is taken off by Arsene Wenger and Amaury Bischoff comes on.

2115: Joey Gudjonsson smashes it over the bar. Twenty minutes left for the Gunners.

2114: Kieran Gibbs concedes a free-kick on the edge of his own penalty area after a foul on Chris McCann, dangerous times for Arsenal.

2111: "Looks like Man United have secured the Carling Cup!"
Tommy, Southampton, via text on 81111

2109: Almost all over at Burnley. Chris McCann crosses from the left and Martin Paterson should score, his header saved at point-blank range from Lukasz Fabianski, who almost takes the ball over the line in claiming it at a second attempt.

2108: Ricardo Fuller heads wide for Stoke after Mamady Sidibe had flicked on Rory Delap's cross. Has that game got penalties written all over it?

2108: One of the heroes of the last round, Jay Simpson, comes on for Jack Wilshere at Turf Moor.

2107: Breaking news from the world of football transfers, with Ajax striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar agreeing to move to crisis club Real Madrid for 17m in January.
Huntelaar agrees move to Madrid

2105: Turf Moor is absolutely rocking. Whatever you say about Arsenal, this is a brilliant Burnley performance. Two-goal hero Kevin McDonald is taken off after getting a knock and Joey Gudjonsson comes on in his place.

2101: GOAL Burnley 2-0 Arsenal
I don't want to come across all anti-Arsenal, but they are in fact 2-0 down. Chris Eagles takes a quick throw down the right and man of the moment Kevin McDonald outmuscles Mark Randall and clips home beautifully with the outside of his right foot past Lukasz Fabianski.

2059: Stoke striker Ricardo Fuller has a half-chance, racing on to the ball and just delaying too long as a last-ditch tackle comes in from a Derby defender.

2057: Just a reminder that we will have extra-time and penalties if necessary tonight, though for the fans at Stoke-Derby, let's hope there is a winner.

2056: "Stevo, I think your assertion that these lads play 'Just like the first team' while being 1-0 down at Burnley may be seen as a sly dig at the abilities of Gallas, Fabregas et al by Gooners."
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I just can't win, can I? Shall I just not say anything?

2053: Nearly an unbelievable goal from 18-year-old Fran Merida, as he cuts in from the left, waltzing past two defenders and curling a right-foot shot just past the post. Agonising.

2052: Action from Stoke!! Kris Commons hits the crossbar for Derby from a Nathan Ellington cross, from six yards out with the goal gaping. Rob Hulse puts the rebound wide.

2051: "Worst game I've ever seen. Makes me ashamed to be from Stoke."
John, via text on 81111

2049: Back under way and Mark Randall is booked almost immediately at Burnley for a foul on Kevin McDonald.

2049: Arsenal bring on Henri Lansbury for Paul Rodgers at half-time.

2048: "By the way, I don't care if some of you want to accuse me of over-doing it with Arsenal. For an outfield team averaging 18.7 years, this is quite remarkable. They play just like the first team, there is a staggering amount of ability. You will be hearing a lot of these boys in the years to come."
Stevo, on 11 November, 2008, the same year he was called anti-Arsenal

2047: Haha. You guys crack me up. I'm being called anti-Arsenal on 606 and on the texts. I think that completes my 'Big Four' sweep of being called both pro and anti Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. Brilliant.

2046: "Could we please take the Burnley keeper with us back to London?"
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2044: "I really appreciate the 'beauty' of Arsenal's play, but it just make me angry to watch. I just end up screaming at the television for them to shoot."
Steve, Portsmouth fan, via text on 81111

2041: OMG, Danny the Stat's got some Player Rater chat. Would you Adam 'n' Eve it? "Burnley are bossing it, with Kevin "7.40" McDonald edging Chris "7.39" Eagles to take top spot. Aaron Ramsey is the Gunners' highest scorer with 6.93, a number even lower than the average age of an Arsenal Carling Cup player. If you feel that these numbers represent some sort of injustice, I have good news. You can change them! By voting! Do it! Vote!"
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2038: Oh, it's also snowing at Stoke. It never rains, eh...

2036: Just before the break, there was actually a rare chance at Stoke, but Mamady Sidibe's effort was blocked. I hate for you to think nothing happened in 45 whole minutes. Anyone at the Britannia? Unleash your frustration on 81111.

2034: Half-time Stoke 0-0 Derby

2033: Half-time Burnley 1-0 Arsenal

2032: This little clone Arsenal team - could they be any more like the seniors? They overplay and overplay and overplay on the edge of the box and eventually Carlos Vela floats one miles over the bar.

2031: A couple of minutes to go until half-time at the Britannia Stadium and the interval might come as a bit of a relief to the fans. There has not been much to warm them on a cold night in Staffordshire.

2028: That's the best save yet from Brian Jensen. Carlos Vela times his run to perfection and Nicklas Bendtner's header finds him, the Mexican's touch taking him clear of the defence only for his shot to find Jensen at full stretch and he makes the save with a strong right arm. Fabulous exhibition of goalkeeping.

2027: "(See 2011) Would that be the same chequebook he took to Euro 2008? Don't remember him opening that one!"
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2024: Nicklas Bendtner produces a moment of sheer magic to play Mark Randall into acres of space, but he shoots early and Burnley keeper Brian Jensen stays big to parry the ball away.

2022: Stoke have the ball in the net through Richard Cresswell, but he is deemed to have handballed in controlling the ball and it is ruled out.

2021: Rory Delap smashes one miles over the bar at Stoke - with one of his feet, you understand? Roy Carroll in the Derby goal has yet to make a save and it would be fair to say this has not been a classic so far.

2019: Nervy night to be a keeper at Burnley. An Arsenal free-kick flies straight at Brian Jensen and the Dane juggles it before catching the ball.

2018: "Stoke have five Derby old boys in their team, if we can't beat our own cast-offs there really is no hope!"
Tim, Manchester, via text on 81111

2016: Martin Paterson is sent through down the Burnley right - there are gaping gaps in the Arsenal defence at the moment. But Lukasz Fabianski spreads himself well and makes an important save.

2014: Chris McCann crosses from the left and Robbie Blake's shot is straight at Lukasz Fabianski, but the keeper almost gifts it to Martin Paterson. He does not look comfortable, the Pole.

2013: Stoke are looking dangerous on the counter-attack, but the final ball is so far not good enough to trouble the Derby defence. Not many chances so far, but both teams are trying to play football.

2011: "I pray Wenger gets the chequebook out for a keeper in January. Is it possible that we have the two worst keepers in the Premier League?"
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2009: Richard Cresswell fires in a dangerous corner at Stoke, but Ibrahima Sonko heads wide.

2008: Carlos Vela shoots from an improbable angle 16 yards out on the right and it's an easy save for Brian Jensen. Should have chipped him.

2006: Burnley are enjoying a fair bit of possession, which is perhaps not what most people would have expected, though they do play some really good stuff at times, Owen Coyle's side.

2005: "As an Arsenal fan, this is exactly what I wanted. Let's see if these boys really are ready."
Dan, Milton Keynes, via text on 81111

2000: Rory Delap's first throw-in of the night at Stoke comes to nothing. It's pretty open so far - could be 3-3, you never know.

1959: "If we score three at Stoke tonight Stevo I'll buy you a pint at the Trent Bridge Inn next February."
Martyn, Sheffield, via text on 81111

Done.

1957: How many chances does Nicklas Bendtner need? Carlos Vela flicks through the Danish striker once more and his shot is blocked by Brian Jensen, with the rebound, er, rebounding out of play.

1956: "Hope that goal will shut up all the Arsenal fans giving us Chelsea fans abuse."
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After Sunday - doubtful.

1953: GOAL Burnley 1-0 Arsenal
We might see how good they are now. Chris Eagles sends over a fabulous low cross from the right and Lukasz Fabianski tries to gather but the ball breaks free from a melee on the edge of the six-yard box and it falls for Kevin McDonald to slot home. Interesting.

1951: First real chance at Burnley and Brian Jensen saves the Clarets with a really good save with his legs from Nicklas Bendtner, who was brilliantly fed through by Aaron Ramsey.

1950: "To correct the average age of the Arsenal team tonight, which you of course wrongly gave us, it is now actually 19.6."
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I don't know, the way some of you talk to me. It's no wonder I'm permanently so aggressive (apparently).

1948: "Just arrived at Turf Moor and it's freezing here. It will be interesting to see how the likes of Vela and Merida can cope in such conditions against some physical opponents."
A cold Rob at Turf Moor, via text on 81111

1947: We, are, under, way. Mixer.

1942: "Aaron Ramsey scored a stunning goal at Burnley last season for Cardiff, so Burnley fans will certainly be wary of him."
Bluebird in Aberdeen, via text on 81111

1940: "They are completely focused and they believe they can win. In this kind of game, there are no excuses regarding Burnley fans or the snowy conditions."
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger

1937: I must also congratulate Cristiano Ronaldo on winning the greatest individual prize in football, the Ballon d'Or. As far as 2008 is concerned, he was head and shoulders above everyone else. But think on this - isn't it funny how often the guy who wins it isn't actually the best player in the world when he receives the award? I mean, right now, this very minute, it's clearly Lionel Messi. In 2007, when Kaka won, it was Ronaldo. The year before, Kaka. Get me?
Ronaldo scoops best player award

1934: "(See 1925) Stevo throwing a curveball already. Wrong line-up to get us all talking. Classic live text technique."
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Yep, you saw straight through me, gutted. That's me sacked then.

1930: Breaking news - Stevo's Predos:
Burnley 2-3 Arsenal
Stoke 3-3 Derby (Derby win 4-3 on penalties)

1928: "I'm gutted for Jay Simpson, he had a great game against Wigan, but Vela and big Nicklas, that's a very strong strike force. Let's hope we win and hopefully see Eduardo in the next round!"
Welsh Gooner, via text on 81111

1926: Actual Arsenal team to play Burnley: Fabianski, Rodgers, Hoyte, Silvestre, Gibbs, Randall, Ramsey, Merida, Wilshere, Bendtner, Vela.

1925: Woah, woah, woah. Looks like we owe you an apology already - there was a mistake in the Arsenal team news we were sent by the Press Association, and, as many of you have pointed out, Aaron Ramsey does indeed start instead of Denilson. Sorry about that.

1924: Stoke make five changes to the side which drew with Hull, with Steve Simonsen, Ibrahima Sonko, Seyi Olofinjana, Glenn Whelan and Richard Cresswell all starting. For Derby, Nathan Ellington replaces cup-tied Luke Varney in the only change to the side which lost at Burnley at the weekend.

1923: And here's the great Danny the Stat's:
"A young manager called Paul Trollope
Fancied an antique desk - a roll top
He put in a bid
Of ten million quid
No he didn't. I'm talking codswallop."
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1921: By the way, don't forget to get involved with the good ship Danny Baker tonight, as the BBC's king of crazy takes over on Radio 5 Live's 606 from 2200 GMT, extra-time and penalties permitting. Danny wants a limerick for every manager in the English and Scottish leagues, so get those thinking caps on. Oh, by the way, here's my effort:
"Forest boss Colin Calderwood,
Wanted to be Robin Hood.
He bought an arrow,
And also a bow,
But ended up being no good."
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1918: STOKE v DERBY LINE-UPS
Stoke: Simonsen, Griffin, Cort, Sonko, Higginbotham, Delap, Olofinjana, Whelan, Cresswell, Sidibe, Fuller. Subs: Sorensen, Pugh, Pericard, Amdy Faye, Davies, Abdoulaye Faye, Dickinson.
Derby: Carroll, Connolly, Powell, Tomkins, Stewart, Kazmierczak, Green, Addison, Commons, Hulse, Ellington. Subs: Bywater, Villa, Sterjovski, Nyatanga, Teale, Zadkovich, Camara.
Referee: Rob Styles (Hampshire).

1915: So, Burnley manager Owen Coyle names the same starting XI that defeated Derby on Saturday. Midfielder Wade Elliott who is struggling with a groin injury, is only fit enough to take a place on the bench, while Christiann Kalvenes and Remco van der Schaaf miss out. Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has kept true his promise to stick with the kids and fields a team with an average age of 19.9. That includes a debut for 19-year-old defender Paul Rodgers.

1912: BURNLEY v ARSENAL LINE-UPS
Burnley: Jensen, Duff, Carlisle, Caldwell, Jordan, Alexander, Blake, McDonald, McCann, Eagles, Paterson. Subs: Penny, Gudjonsson, Akinbiyi, Elliott, Mahon, Rodriguez, MacDonald.
Arsenal: Fabianski, Hoyte, Silvestre, Denilson, Gibbs, Rodgers, Randall, Merida, Wilshere, Bendtner, Vela. Subs: Mannone, Bischoff, Coquelin, Lansbury, Simpson, Steer, Frimpong.
Referee: Andre Marriner (W Midlands).

1911: I'll keep this brief, because I'm sure you're bored of me saying it by now: If you're at Turf Moor or the Britannia Stadium, get those missives flying in on 81111. You've no idea how happy they make me.

1910: "Burnley have to make Arsenal make mistakes. Get stuck into them nice and early, don't let them settle."
BBC Radio 5 Live's Mark Lawrenson

1908: You don't have to get involved tonight, if you really don't want to. I mean, I can't do anything to make you. But I trust you'd rather not keep your observations to yourself, because they might just be live text gold. If you think they might be (silver or bronze would do), why not text in on 81111, or debate away on 606? Don't feel like you have to, mind.
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1905: There's also Stoke City v Derby County from the Britannia Stadium, with the hosts aiming to reach their first major cup semi-final since the 1972 League Cup. Rams boss Paul Jewell will be seeking a first win against a Premier League team since 13 May, 2007 - they day Wigan stayed up with a 2-1 win at Sheffield United. Oh, incidentally, this is just his 25th attempt since then, by the way.

1903: Perhaps the biggest of tonight's games pits Chelsea-conquerors Burnley against the prodigious kids of Arsenal at Turf Moor. The Clarets, having dumped out a Blues team including Deco, Frank Lampard and Didier Drogba at Stamford Bridge in the last round, will fear no-one. And the young Gunners have so far swept aside Sheffield United and Wigan, showing wonderful temperament coupled with outrageous ability. A potential cracker, then.

1900: This season - you've got to laugh, haven't you? The Premier League is hotting up, the Champions League is as thrilling as ever and the FA Cupsets have already begun in earnest. In the League Cup, we're down to the last eight. Wembley, and Europe, are getting tantalisingly close...

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see also
Chelsea 1-1 Burnley (aet)
12 Nov 08 |  League Cup
Arsenal 3-0 Wigan
11 Nov 08 |  League Cup
Stoke 2-0 Rotherham
11 Nov 08 |  League Cup
Derby 2-1 Leeds
11 Nov 08 |  League Cup


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