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Champions League as it happened


Group E

AaB Aalborg 2-2 Villarreal
Celtic 1-1 Man Utd Match report

Group F

Fiorentina 1-1 Bayern Munich
Lyon 2-0 Steaua Bucharest

Group G

Arsenal 0-0 Fenerbahce Match report
Dynamo Kiev 1-2 FC Porto

Group H

BATE Borisov 0-2 Zenit St Petersburg
Real Madrid 0-2 Juventus


To get involved use 606 or text us your views & comments on 81111. (Not all contributions can be used)

By Paul Fletcher

2200: Not that many fireworks tonight, not really. In fact it has not been the most spectacular couple of days but I have enjoyed it nonetheless. And that, in no small measure, is down to you lot. So thanks.

Don't forget that 606 is on Radio 5 Live as we speak. Tim Lovejoy is behind the mike.

2157: (See 2145) pompeymitch - an apology. As several people have pointed out - I have misread what you said. You may well have been right about Jeppe Curth after all. One thing is for certain, I'll be keeping an eye on his progress from now on.

2154: "As a United fan, I can't wait for the Arsenal match, I was more concerned about Hull than Arsenal."
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Man Utd are, of course, at Arsenal on Saturday.

2152: Ryan Giggs' goal for Man Utd means he has now scored in 13 different Champions League seasons. A record for the competition.

2148: Man Utd need one point from their next two games to qualify from their group. Also, if they draw with Villarreal it will ensure both teams go through.

Juventus, who beat Real Madrid tonight, have qualified.

2145: (See 2127 and 2109) A quick browse around the world of internet suggests that Jeppe Curth is Danish. Pompeymitch thought he had played for Dutch junior international teams. It also seems that somebody has been cheekily playing around with Curth's wikipedia entry.

2143: It has been a funny old week, as old Arkwright might have said if he was in the football and not local shop business. For the first time I suspect in ages and ages none of the four English teams managed a victory.

2141: Full-time
All of this evening's Champions League fixtures have drawn to a close.

2137: GOAL BATE Borisov 0-2 Zenit St Petersburg
A late goal from Miguel Danny seals victory for Zenit.

2136: Full-time
Dimitar Berbatov has a great chance to win it for Man Utd in injury time. He has time to control the ball, turn and shoot from eight yards but he misses the target. A terrible miss.

2134: GOAL Dynamo Kiev 1-2 FC Porto
In an incredible finish, Porto snatch victory a minute and a half into injury time. Lisandro Lopez gets away on the break and slips the ball across the box for Lucho Gonzalez to score. He takes his shirt off in celebration and gets a second yellow card. Goodnight.

2134: Full-time
A disappointing evening for Arsenal. The Gunners stay top of the group but it was perhaps not the performance they wanted after the defeat at Stoke.

2133: Closing in on the final whistle in all the games. Deep in injury time at the Emirates.

2131: GOAL Lyon 2-0 Steaua Bucharest
Anthony Reveillere puts this one to bed.

2130: Man Utd are pushing hard for a winner - a goal from them would secure their qualification but send Celtic crashing out as it stands.

2128: GOAL Celtic 1-1 Manchester United
A shot from Cristiano Ronaldo swerves alarmingly and Artur Boruc does well to parry the ball clear. However, the alert Ryan Giggs follows up to head home the equaliser.

2127: (See 2109) "I think pompeymitch is overtired. Curth is Danish and was loaned out by Feyenoord. He is about as Dutch as Obama!"
Anonymous via text on 81111

A few people have said that. We'll get to the bottom of it later.

2124: Sir Alex Ferguson prowls the touchline. Wayne Rooney shoots from distance and Celtic keeper Artur Boruc makes a good save low down.

2123: GOAL Aab Aalborg 2-2 Villarreal
He was due a goal and now he has one. Anders Due levels the scores for the second time in Denmark.

2121: GOAL Fiorentina 1-1 Bayern Munich
Tim Borowski has equalised for the German side. We seem to be getting a steady flow of goals at last. I wonder if Arsenal will contribute?

2120: This has been a tremendous defensive performance so far by Celtic. Plenty of courage and discipline.

2119: "Goals everywhere apart from the Emirates, funny fact!"
Anonymous via text on 81111

Perspective is everything.

2118: GOAL Aab Aalborg 1-2 Villarreal
The yellow submarine take the lead for the second time this evening, Guillermo Franco finding the net. They are now on the verge of qualification as it stands.

2115: Wayne Rooney on for Man Utd, Carlos Tevez makes way. Will we have fireworks now?

About 20 minutes left in tonight's games.

2113: GOAL Dynamo Kiev 1-1 FC Porto
Raul Meireles sends over a free kick from the right touchline and Jorge Rolando heads in from six yards for the equaliser.

2111: "Remember remember the 5th of November...not likely the way the English teams have been playing!"
Kirsty, Andover, via text on 81111

2109: (see 2055) "Jeppe Curth is a former Feyenoord youth player and has played at every youth level for the Dutch team from Under 16s to Under 21s. Fact!"
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2108: GOAL Real Madrid 0-2 Juventus
Juve are doing a real number on Madrid here. Defending deep, frustrating Real, and breaking only on occasion. Alessandro del Piero goes and puts them 2-0 up with a delightful 25-yard free-kick, curled past a motionless Iker Casillas. The wall was a shambles to be fair, but credit to Del Piero for exploiting it - that's his fourth Champions League goal in four matches.

2106: A decent chance for Celtic but Cillian Sheridan cannot find the target with a free header 10 yards from goal.

2104: "This is the LAST time I travel up from Plymouth to watch Arsenal. They don't even shoot. I want my petrol money back."
Julian Meteor, Plymouth, via text on 81111

2103: Arsene Wenger has seen enough as Abou Diaby and Carlos Vela come on for Aaron Ramsey and Nicklas Bendtner.

2100: Almost an equaliser for Man Utd as Shaun Maloney clears off the line from Dimitar Berbatov.

2057: "Jeremy Paxman's just been interviewing Dizzee Rascal about Obama, just to let you know what you've been missing."
Chris C, Birmingham, via text on 81111


2055: GOAL Aab Aalborg 1-1 Villarreal
Jeppe Curth equalises for the Danish side. Do you know much about him?

2055: Another Man Utd corner and once again Nemanja Vidic cannot keep his header on target.

2054: Paul Hartley slips and Carlos Tevez knocks the ball into the box but Cristiano Ronaldo's shot is blocked by Gary Caldwell. Man Utd have started very brightly.

2051: (See 2044) "I love Berbatov. He's so good. He's brilliant. He's a born goalscorer. I love Berbatov. Berbatov is my hero. He is already a Man Utd legend. Have you seen his goals in the Champions League? They were so good. He's made for the Champions League. I love Berbatov. Berbatov is amazing. 31 million well spent."
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At first I thought you were just a touch carried away. Then I saw your name and thought you might be having a dig.

2049: Celtic v Man Utd resumes with Dimitar Berbatov on for Nani.

2048: The action has resumed in most of the games - including Arsenal. Kolo Toure has a free-kick tipped over by Volkan Demirel.

2046: "Robin van Persie has done this all season. He finds so much space but then misses the easiest of chances. Bring on Vela Mr Wenger, give him his chance." diaby's goofy one via text on 81111

Lots of calls for Vela on 606 and the text. Some people want fireworks in the second half - geddit?

2045: Pavel Pogrebniak's goal for Zenit was the 4,500th scored in the history of the Champions League. Fact.

2044: Dimitar Berbatov appears to be warming up at the break. Berba time?

Celtic's Scott McDonald is loving it. He's the top man on the BBC Sport website's Celtic-Man Utd Player Rater with a round 7.00, ahead of second-placed Michael Carrick (6.59). But wait - down in London, Robin van Persie is beating even your rating with a whopping 7.47 - and he's not even scored a goal! Seething at the sheer injustice of it all? Remember, you have the power to change things....
Celtic v Man Utd
Arsenal v Fenerbahce

2036: (See 2005) OK, I think we can say that the shot was deflected. Many thanks.

BTW - Cesc Fabregas doesn't appear to have done all that much - and his stubble is coming in for some stick on 606.

2034: Half-time
Man Utd's main danger is coming from corners, and they carve Celtic open with another just before half-time, but Nemanja Vidic heads off target.

2032: Half-time
Everywhere apart from the Celtic v Man Utd match.

2031: More pressure from Arsenal, who are completely out-passing Fenerbahce but cannot get a clear sight of goal. A mis-kick by Roberto Carlos almost lets Nicklas Bendtner in, but Volkan Demirel comes out sharply to smother the ball.

2030: GOAL Lyon 1-0 Steaua Bucharest
Juninho puts the French side in front. Just about the last action of the half.

2028: GOAL AaB Aalborg 0-1 Villarreal
Former Man Utd player Guiseppe Rossi strikes for the yellow submarine.

2026: (See 2005) OK, we need some closure on this one. Was Robin van Persie's shot definitely deflected wide? I must admit I was a bit pushed for time and only saw the incident once.

2023: Samir Nasri has a shot saved. Is there just a hint of frustration and anxiety emanating from the stands?

2023: Play resumes.

2022: The match between Celtic and Man Utd is brought to a halt by an unscheduled encroachment on to the pitch by an unknown person.

2020: GOAL BATE Borisov 0-1 Zenit St Petersburg
Pavel Pogrebniak strikes for Zenit, who need to win tonight to realistically keep their qualification hopes alive.

2016: Robin van Persie collects a slide-rule pass from out wide and checks inside, losing his marker. The Dutch forward has a clear sight of goal but keeper Volkan Demirel tips his effort on to the crossbar. Great save.

2013: Fenerbahce's Roberto Carlos tries his luck from 45 yards. You've got to give it to him, the Brazilian has never been scared to try his luck.

2012: Celtic might have scored but Man Utd are dominating possession.

Arsenal are still very much on top against Fenerbahce.

2011: How Real are not level, only Sergio Ramos can tell us. Wesley Sneijder's cross drifts over a static Juventus defence but Ramos, eight yards out, scuffs his volley into the ground with the goal gaping and the ball bounces harmlessly over the bar.

2007: Dynamo Kiev 1-0 Porto
Artem Milevskiy takes a short pass from Olexandr Aliyev on the edge of the Porto box and - cool as you like - passes the ball into the corner. If this scoreline stays the same and Arsenal win then the Gunners will progress from their group.

2006: Carlos Tevez attacks a low cross from Rafael but his effort is put out by a Celtic player. Ryan Giggs delivers the subsequent corner and the ball drops invitingly to Rio Ferdinand at the far post but he misses the target. Poor miss.

2005: A golden chance for Arsenal comes and goes - their best of the match so far. Samir Nasri's chip puts Cesc Fabregas through and his shot is fumbled by Volkan Demirel into the path of Robin van Persie, unmarked, on the edge of the six-yard box. A goal looks inevitable but the Dutchman's shot is wild and flies harmlessly over.

2004: As it stands in Group H, Juve will qualify tonight.

2002: GOAL Real Madrid 0-1 Juventus
Clinical stuff from Juventus. They've been on the back foot for the first 15 minutes of this match, but Alessandro Del Piero is allowed to turn in the middle of Real's half, stride forward and then drive the ball low into the corner from 20 yards.

2001: GOAL Celtic 1-0 Manchester United
Man Utd fail to properly clear a free kick and the ball lands at the feet of Scott McDonald. He still has a lot to do but a delightful lob goes over the head of Ben Foster and into the net. Celtic's first Champions League goal of the season.

2000: More good passing play by Arsenal and the ball is played to Aaron Ramsey, unmarked, on the right-hand edge of the area. The Welshman embarks on a twisting run and makes space for a low shot which Volkan Demirel gets down well to stop.

1957: Free-kick. Man Utd. Ronaldo. Goal? Almost, as the Portuguese star smashes the ball just wide of the goal.

1956: GOAL Fiorentina 1-0 Bayern Munich
Former Chelsea striker Adrian Mutu has put the Italian side ahead. Something of a surprise as the German outfit are undefeated in Group F.

1955: Arsenal are enjoying plenty of early possession at the Emirates and have just created their first opening. A delightful lobbed pass by Cesc Fabregas found Robin van Persie running into the area but, although he reached the ball before Fenerbahce keeper Volkan Demirel, he prodded his first-time shot wide. Unlucky.

1952: Some Real team news for you - that's Real Madrid team news, not actual team news. Former Chelsea man Arjen Robben has been injured, presumably in the warm-up, and has been replaced by Royston Drenthe.

1951: Man Utd have started very well - Cristiano Ronaldo saw an early shot blocked after Celtic failed to clear a corner.

1950: New Argentina coach Diego Maradona is in Madrid to watch Real take on Juventus.

Maradona, officially named coach of the national side on Tuesday is probably checking out Argentine duo Fernando Gago and Gabriel Heinze.

"Very good," were the only words Maradona said at Barajas airport when asked about how his time had been since being named coach. Muy bien. Perhaps.

1950: (See 1937) "Ramsey has a very bright future he is in the Scholes mould - keeps things simple, pass and move."
Rob, London, via 81111

1948: We have finally started at Parkhead. The atmosphere sounds amazing.

1948: (See 1930) "About the Spanish Fletch... Sorry but sounds nothing like geezer whatever you try and do with it. I don't live to far from his family actually! So adios tio!"
Anonymous via text on 81111

That is that then.

1945: We seem to have started everywhere apart from Celtic.

1944: (See 1930) "Paul, nearly but not quite. Guiza is written with two dots above the u, in South American countries its pronounced more like gweezer."
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1939: "Fletch - is the Josico thats playing for Fenerbache tonight the same one that used to play for Las Palmas in Spain?"
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I'm not getting into this sort of thing again. Not after the Maxi debacle on Tuesday.

1937: Aaron Ramsey starting for Arsenal tonight. Have you seen much of him? How bright a future does he have in the game?

1935: Some great chat/debate on 606 at the moment but can we NOT talk about Steven Gerrard and yesterday's penalty decision. Today is a new day/era/age/epoch.

1930: (See 1915) "Guiza is actually pronounced "weetha" in Spanish. Nothing like geezer. Sorry to ruin the joke."
Cropper, Spain, via text on 81111

Good point, though I guess it would depend to an extent on the accent. I'm on thin ice here but the type of Spanish they speak in South America (less lispy, for want of a better word - castellano?) would surely make it sound a bit like geezer?

1927: "Just seen a firework outside my bedroom window that, when burst, formed the word "OBAMA". I live in Brive La Gaillarde, France...Times are changing indeed."
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"Plenty of fireworks outside my hospital window! This'll be the sixth game I am meant to be at but have missed since being in hospital, but I have no fear for Man Utd as we always score plenty when I'm not there!"
Raven666 via text on 81111

Get well soon.

1925: (See 1916)"Same, doing my nut in with the loudness! Deary me!"
Anonymous via text on 81111

Someone else said something similar too you, except in language I could not use. This is a family show.

1923: (See 1902) "To Alex the Rangers fan. Technically Queen of the South lasted longer in Europe than you!"
Anonymous via text on 81111

Can this be the end of the matter? Please.

1920: Lets do some qualifying analysis. Danny the stat has sent me an e-mail that contains some pure gold information.

Man Utd will qualify for the knockout stages:

If they win and Aalborg fail to beat Villarreal.

If they win, they are all but certain to qualify, even if Villarreal lose but will need a point to be sure.

If they draw and Villarreal beat Aalborg.

Celtic are out of the Champions League if either:

They lose and Villarreal get at least a point at Aalborg.


They draw and Villarreal beat Aalborg.


1916: There is one crazy firework show going on outside the window. Anyone experiencing similar? Very distracting.

1915: Team news
Arsenal make five changes from the side which lost to Stoke, with youngster Aaron Ramsey, goalkeeper Lukasz Fabianski, Samir Nasri, Robin van Persie and Johan Djourou all starting.

Fenerbahce are without injured playmaker Alex, but fellow Brazilian Roberto Carlos starts, as does Spain striker Daniel Guiza.

Guiza, bit of a man about town? Does his surname mean geezer in English?

1913: "How did the painting go this morning Fletch?"Anonymous via text on 81111

Hmm. Got up a little later than planned, missing a pretty good dust-up in the rugby league World Cup in the process. Tidied up the flat and did a lot of very valuable preparation for the next stage of the painting. Which I might start when I get home, because I'm sad like that.

1910: TEAMS
Celtic: Boruc, Hinkel, Caldwell, McManus, Wilson, Hartley, Scott Brown, Robson, Maloney, McDonald, Sheridan.
Subs: Mark Brown, Naylor, Donati, Hutchinson, Nakamura, O'Dea, Caddis.

Man Utd: Foster, Rafael Da Silva, Ferdinand, Vidic, O'Shea, Ronaldo, Fletcher, Carrick, Nani, Tevez, Giggs.
Subs: Kuszczak, Evra, Anderson, Berbatov, Rooney, Park, Evans.

1909: TEAMS
Arsenal: Fabianski, Toure, Djourou, Silvestre, Clichy, Ramsey, Fabregas, Denilson, Nasri, Bendtner, Van Persie.
Subs: Mannone, Diaby, Sagna, Vela, Song Billong, Wilshere, Gibbs.

Fenerbahce: Demirel, Gonul, Edu Dracena, Lugano, Roberto Carlos, Maldonado, Sahin, Boral, Kazim-Richards, Senturk, Guiza.
Subs: Babacan, Wederson, Yilmaz, Josico, Bilgin, Cakmak, Deivid.

1906: For the anonymous texter who wanted some real Madrid-Juve chat...

Real Madrid: Casillas; Ramos, Cannavaro, Heinze, Marcelo; Sneijder, Diarra, Guti; Raul, Van Nistelrooy, Robben

Juventus: Manninger; Mellberg, Legrottaglie, Chiellini, Molinaro; Marchionni, Tiago, Sissoko, Nedved; Amauri, Del Piero

1904: "I'm a huge Ben Foster fan and I can't wait to see him play. In my opinion, should be our first choice keeper, I believe he's that good."
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There has been a lot of chat about Ben Foster on 606. A lot of people are really talking him up.

1902: "I'm a Rangers man but I desperately want Celtic to do the business tonight....are you kidding? Come on United! Another hiding in store I hope!"
Alex via text on 81111

Naughty. Very naughty.

1858: Looking at what happened to Chelsea and Liverpool last night I reckon that predictions for this evening are fraught with danger. However, I think Celtic might take a point off Man Utd and Arsenal will defeat Fenerbahce.

1855: By the way, if you so desire you can watch highlights of Celtic's last match, against Hearts in the SPL on the BBC website.
Watch Celtic against Hearts

1854: Team news
Man Utd make six changes to the side that beat Hull City, with Wayne Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov dropping down to the bench and Carlos Tevez and Ryan Giggs coming in. Goalkeeper Ben Foster is in for the rested Edwin van der Sar, while Rafael Da Silva plays at right-back with Gary Neville and Wes Brown injured. Darren Fletcher comes in for Anderson in midfield and John O'Shea replaces Patrice Evra at left-back.

Celtic are unchanged from the side that won at Hearts, with Shaun Maloney getting the nod ahead of Aiden McGeady.

1851: Some early Arsenal team news - Lukasz Fabianski starts in goal.

1850: "Surely Real Madrid v Juventus is a game of equal stature, if not bigger than Celtic v Man Utd? Two of the most successful clubs in Europe clashing hardly gets a mention. Sort it out, Fletch."
Anonymous via text on 81111

Consider it mentioned - and I see what you mean, though I'm not sure it is number one for the majority our of audience.

1847: Some early team news - Man Utd have made six changes for their match with Celtic. Full details to follow.

1846: (See 1838) "No we shouldn't be believing Mr Anonymous, especially since the correct expression is "firing on all cylinders"."
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1845: Just how did Wayne Rooney become the fine upstanding young man that he is today? Perhaps the answer can be found at his old school in Liverpool.

Sue Barker visited De La Salle school ahead of this year's Sports Personality of the Year, which takes place at the Echo Arena on 14 December.
Watch some Sue Barker at Wayne Rooney's old school

1838: "Celtic will need to be firing on all rockets to get something tonight (no pun intended)."
Anonymous via text on 81111

That part in the brackets - do we believe Mr Anonymous?

1836: "Celtic's home form is amazing in the Champions League but I fancy United to break that home form. Celtic's fans will be expecting an improvement after the poor show at Old Trafford and the pressure could slip them up."
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Celtic v Man Utd - it is the one they are all talking about.

1834: Anyone expecting fireworks tonight?

1832: "Celtic will be fired up for the game tonight, especially in front of their own fantastic fans!"
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1830: Now then, big news if you're just about to leave the house.

You can still follow this text commentary and get all the scores on your mobile. From a UK phone, just text FOOTBALL to 81010, it will cost you 10 to 15p and you will receive in return a link to our mobile site. Click on that, and you'll be straight through (then bookmark it so you never need to text that number again). The cost of being online on your phone will vary according to network and your own contract.

1825 GMT: Remember, remember the fifth of November?

I certainly do. It makes me think of disgusting jacket potatoes, wrapped in tin foil that burns the hand. One year the brains' trust at my primary school positioned the bonfire too close to the social club and the plastic guttering melted. Forgiveness was, perhaps, begrudging that year.

Of course, this is the first bonfire night since the world changed - and I'm not talking about Chelsea's defeat in Rome.

To think that we had a live text last night and we have another tonight and that they belong to different eras, different ages almost.

We live in amazing times when anything is possible. Though whether this extends to Fenerbahce taking anything off Arsenal this evening remains to be seen.

The Gunners might have come a cropper at Stoke on the weekend but they looked pretty smooth in Turkey 15 days ago.

Celtic host Man Utd and will be looking to avenge their rather comprehensive 3-0 defeat at Old Trafford. I'm expecting plenty of passion.

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