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Champions League as it happened


CFR Cluj 1-2 Bordeaux
Roma 3-1 Chelsea

Anorthosis Famagusta 3-3 Inter Milan
Werder Bremen 0-3 Panathinaikos

Barcelona 1-1 Basle
Sporting 1-0 Shakhtar Donetsk

Liverpool 1-1 Atletico Madrid
Marseille 3-0 PSV Eindhoven


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By Paul Fletcher

2200: The final word - I have just made a quick amendment to the text at 2142. I'm sure that the anonymous texter meant diving and not driving. Though perhaps Steven Gerrard should keep his comments on the driving of others to himself!

2157: Well that is just about it from me tonight. I'd just like to say is has been a pleasure - and your texts and 606 messages really do add spice to the operation. Steven Gerrard's late penalty certainly sparked a late rush of comments!

I'll be spending Wednesday morning painting the flat - but I'll be back in the evening for some more Champions League action.

Hmm. Atletico goalscorer Maxi Rodriguez remains top of the Player Rater pops with 7.61. You may not be surprised to discover that the top rated player in Roma was the extremely impressive Mirko Vucinic. However, you can change the course of history by rating the players yourself.
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2150: Something to help you cope with the post-footy withdrawal - 606 with Danny Baker is on BBC Radio 5 live at 2200 GMT. You can watch live on the internet or by pressing red on your digital TV remote control. Any comments on Danny's 606 thread could make it into the programme - if they're good - so get commenting!
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2146: I'd just like to offer my heartfelt congratulations to Basle. A great achievement in coming from behind to earn a draw at Barcelona. Very well done.

2145: "The mark of champions is the ability to grind out results, so I'm told. It's what Man Utd and Chelsea do. Liverpool have a similar knack of having results gifted to them."
Anonymous via text on 81111

2144: Liverpool remain level on points with Atletico in Group D and have yet to qualify. Chelsea, well beaten in Rome, have also yet to secure their qualification from Group A.

2143: Further chat on Group C. In addition to Barcelona qualifying, Sporting Lisbon's victory over Shakhtar Donetsk means that they go through as well.

2142: "Steven Gerrard cannot ever again have a go at someone for diving. Lost a lot of respect for him there."
Anonymous via text on 81111

2140: Match of the day, or indeed evening - how about Anorthosis Famagusta drawing 3-3 with Inter Milan? Jose Mourinho's team needed a late goal from Julio Cruz to avoid defeat.

2139: Barcelona may have been held to a draw by Basle (who have taken their first point of the campaign - fact) but the Catalan side have nonetheless qualified from their group.

2137: Full-time
All eight of the evening's fixtures have come to a close. The late drama unfolded at Anfield as the Reds rescued a point with a late, late goal.

2135: GOAL Liverpool 1-1 Atletico
Steven Gerrard drills the ball into the corner to rescue a point. The award of the penalty kick was very kind indeed.

2134: The spot kick is given for a foul on Steven Gerrard by Mariano Pernia. A very dodgy decision.

To Liverpool.

2133: Into injury-time. It is not going to be a good night for the two English clubs.

2131: Former Liverpool player Luis Garcia replaces Simao for Atletico. He receives a warm hand from the home supporters.

2130: Almost a hat-trick for Roma's Mirko Vucinic but Petr Cech makes a decent save. Vucinic is subbed moments later.

2129: It should be 4-3 to Inter Milan, but Arian Beqaj makes a remarkable save to claw away Esteban Cambiasso's header. TV replays are inconclusive, but there's a possibility the ball had crossed the line...

2128: GOAL Barcelona 1-1 Basle
Crikey.Eren Derdiyok has silenced the Nou Camp crowd by levelling with seven minutes to go.

2128: GOAL Werder Bremen 0-3 Panathinaikos
Alexis Tziolis makes the game safe for the Greeks.

2127: Jamie Carragher cuts one way then the other before shooting from the edge of the box. The Liverpool defender forces a save from Atletico keeper Leo Franco.

2124: Daniel Agger, unmarked, should equalise for Liverpool but heads wide of the target. Very poor.

2123: GOAL Anorthosis Famagusta 3-3 Inter Milan
They've left it late, but Jose Mourinho's side have levelled in Cyprus throughJulio Cruz - nine minutes to go.

2121: RED CARD
More misery for Chelsea as Deco is sent from the field. Big Phil shakes his head. Deco looks extremely bemused. He has been given a second yellow for trying to take a free-kick quickly.

2116: GOAL Roma 3-1 Chelsea
Chelsea get one back - and it's a controversial one as well. Deco's centre strikes John Terry and heads towards goal. Doni keeps the initial effort out but the Chelsea skipper taps in the rebound. Could have been handball, could have been offside, but it was given and it's game on again.

2116: GOAL Sporting 1-0 Shakhtar Donetsk
The deadlock is broken in Portugal as Vanderlei Derlei gives Sporting the lead. That'll make them hot favourites to join Barcelona in the knockout stages if the Group C scores stay the same.

2115: "Steven Gerrard looks like an empty shell of the player we know he can be. He will probably crack one in from 40 yards in a second now that I have said that."
Dan, Oxford, via text on 81111

2113: GOAL Marseille 3-0 PSV
Another goal for Marseille and it is the second of the night forMamadou Niang. Hatem Ben Arfa plays him in with an inch-perfect through-ball and the Senegal striker makes no mistake - rolling the ball into the bottom corner for a really classy finish. The home fans are enjoying this.

2113: GOAL Werder Bremen 0-2 Panathinaikos
Giorgos Karagounis doubles the lead for the Greeks with 20 minutes to go. They look set fair to take third place from the Germans in Group B.

2112: If the score stays the same in Rome, it will be Chelsea's biggest Champions League defeat since they lost 5-1 to Barcelona in April 2000.

2110: Xavi comes on as a substitute at the Nou Camp - that makes 100 European matches for the Spaniard. Perhaps surprisingly, he's the first Barcelona player to make the century in European competition.

2109: (See 1925) "Does this mean Obama's going to lose as well? Seeing as your other prediction hasn't quite come true."
Anonymous via text on 81111

2108: Just what did Big Phil say to his troops at the break?

2104: GOAL Marseille 2-0 PSV
PSV have been pushing forward in the mud at Stade Velodrome in search of an equaliser but they have left some big gaps at the back whilst doing so and Marseille have just taken full advantage to extend their lead. Bakari Kone turns provider this time, crossing from the right for Mamadou Niang to strike from close range. Kone has just had another shot cleared off the line as the French side threaten to run riot.

2104: GOAL Barcelona 1-0 Basle
They held out for an hour, but finally the Swiss side falls behind. Lionel Messi - only just on as a substitute - finds himself on the edge of the box and fires in a low shot which gives Franco Costanzo in goal no chance.

2103: "There's no other answer Chelsea are completely asleep, that's it they're asleep."
Charlie, Sussex, via text on 81111

2102: "Chelsea are turning into the football equivalent of Graeme Hick. Flat track bullies. No point thrashing Sunderland and Hull if they lose the big hands."
Muzz via text on 81111

2100: GOAL Werder Bremen 0 -1 Panathinaikos
Vangelis Mantzios has netted just before the hour mark to put the Greek side ahead. Werder Bremen will be bottom of Group B if that score stays the same.

2059: GOAL Roma 3-0 Chelsea
That manMirko Vucinic scores again as Chelsea are torn to shreds in Rome. Vucinic dispossesses John Obi Mikel and closes in on goal before slotting the ball past Petr Cech.

2057: Liverpool's Daniel Agger beats Atletico keeper Leo Franco to a free-kick but cannot quite keep his header on target. It would come as no surprise if Liverpool score - but then again Atletico look dangerous on the counter.

2054: Robbie Keane makes a strong shout for handball against Luis Perea in the penalty area as he tried to get past the defender. Television replays suggest the referee was wrong to wave away the Liverpool striker's appeals.

2051: GOAL Anorthosis Famagusta 3-2 Inter Milan
Jose Mourinho - oh dear. Temuri Ketsbaia - get excited. Nicolas Burdisso makes a hash of clearing a first-time cross and Nikolaos Frousos takes full advantage, smashing a low shot into the corner of the net.

2049: GOAL Roma 2-0 Chelsea
No stopping that one. Hardly any back lift but no lack of pace asMirko Vucinic smashes the ball home from 20-plus yards.

2047: No messing about from big Phil Scolari. Off go Florent Malouda and Joe Cole. On come Didier Drogba and Juliano Belletti.

2043: A quick mention from the Johnstone's Paint Trophy Southern Area quarter-final. Shrewsbury are beating Dagenham & Redbridge 5-0. Cannot see the Daggers bouncing back in this one.

High, high marks for the Atletico players at Anfield, with goalscorer Maxi Rodriguez leading the way on a nine-bothering 8.50. Meanwhile, the Chelsea players have some very impressive marks in Rome which - if you don't mind me saying - is a touch at odds with the scoreline. If you're enraged by this, the beauty is that you can change it all...
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2037: I'd just to like to take my hat off to Basle. As several people have pointed out, they have held Barca to a goalless draw so far. Apparently the crowd at the Nou Camp is very poor indeed. in terms of size, that is.

2035: (See 2028) "Trooper_ShadowSlayer - that was Maxi Lopez. Maxi Rodriguez scored the cracking volley against Mexico at the World Cup in 2006. Maxi Lopez plays for FC Moscow now."
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2032: Half-time Right across Europe. In the Champions League at least.

2031: GOAL Anorthosis Famagusta 2-2 Inter Milan
Quite remarkable. Famagusta equalise in crazy fashion as Esteban Cambiasso attempts to head clear, but only succeeds in sending the ball off the back of the head of substitute Georgios Panagi - and then watches it loop into the net for another equaliser.

2030: GOAL Anorthosis Famagusta 1-2 Inter Milan
Marco Materazzi puts the Italian team back in front with a header from close range.

2028: "Maxi Rodriguez! He was a real hot prospect two years ago when he was at Barca and then I had no clue where he went. Great first touch there. Well well finally seeing some action at Liverpool now!"
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2027: Another golden chance for PSV comes and goes. Otman Bakkel rises unmarked at the near post but, from eight yards out, plants his header against the outside of the post.

2023: GOAL CFR Cluj 1-2 Bordeaux
A sumptuous free-kick from Wendel puts the French side back in front in Romania.

2022: GOAL Liverpool 0-1 Atletico Madrid
Cracking goal from Maxi Rodriguez, who runs on to a low cross from Antonio Lopez and takes the ball past Jamie Carragher before smashing it into the net.

2018: GOAL Roma 1-0 Chelsea
Terrible defending by Chelsea. Christian Panucci sidefoots the ball home from Cicinho's cross. The Italian is six yards from goal and completely unmarked.

2017: GOAL Anorthosis Famagusta 1-1 Inter Milan
Would you Adam and Eve it? Cedric Bardon gets an equaliser for the Cypriot side against the Italian giants.

2016: A cracking chance for Chelsea. Frank Lampard receives a return pass from Deco and shoots from 25 yards but is foiled by a great save from Doni.

2015: By this stage in the Champions League fixtures 14 days ago there had been 18 goals. So far we have had four.

2014: GOAL Marseille 1-0 PSV
Bakari Kone puts the French side ahead after taking the ball around the keeper and slotting home from a tight angle.

2010: Come on goals. Both teams still looking to attack at Liverpool. Surely a goal there soon?

2007: Chelsea are stepping up the pressure as Deco and Florent Malouda both see shots deflected wide within a minute of each other. Joe Cole's subsequent corner is over hit and bypasses all the blue bodies in the box.

Frank Lampard then forces a decent save with a low strike that keeper Doni gets down to save.

2005: I'm not quite sure how he did it but Danny Koevermans has just missed an absolute sitter for PSV. Sliding in to meet a low cross with the goal gaping, the Dutch striker was almost under the crossbar when he made contact but contrived to miss the target completely. The pitch at Stade Velodrome is treacherous after a lot of rain before kick-off but Koevermans only has himself to blame for that one.

2003: A really enjoyable open, end-to-end game at Liverpool so far. A blistering counter from Atletico should result in a goal but Simao volleys over from 10 yards.

2001: Liverpool take the direct route as Xabi Alonso launches a super 60-yard pass, which Robbie Keane controls instantly on his chest before cracking a fierce, low drive only inches wide of the upright.

1959: Roma have struggled to get anything going so far but Mirko Vucinic almost fashions something from nothing as he takes a deep cross on the chest and then volleys just over the bar.

1959: GOAL Anorthosis Famagusta 0-1 Inter Milan
Good news for Jose Mourinho - remember him? - as Mario Balotelli puts his team in front.

1958: Chelsea get a sight at goal with Deco firing in a low shot across the greasy service which Doni gets down to turn around the post for a corner. The visitors are shading it in the early stages.

1956: Apparently Maradona is at Anfield tonight. Only nobody has seen him there and I don't reckon he does low pro all that well.

1954: GOAL CFR Cluj 1-1 Bordeaux
Well that didn't last long did it? A perfect cross and Dani (not the Stat) is perfectly placed to head home.

1953: GOAL CFR Cluj 0-1 Bordeaux
Yoann Gourcuff scores the first Champions League goal of the evening. If that score stays the same there is no way Chelsea can qualify tonight.

1952: "Which match would you suggest for a neutral?"
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Barca v Basle - all the makings of a classic. And lets lay off Basle - a fine, hard working team who just happen to lack the finances necessary to feast at the top table of European football.

1948: Atletico, by the way, are wearing blue tonight rather than their normal red and white stripes.

The pitch in the Roma-Chelsea game appears to be playing OK despite the heavy rain all day.

1946: Early drama at Liverpool. Robbie Keane shoots at goal, the ball ends up dropping to Daniel Agger, who appears to be tugged as he prepares to shoot. His penalty appeals fall on deaf ears.

1945: We have action right across Europe. Bring. It. On.

1944: In case you wanted more details on that man Maradona.Maradona named Argentina coach

1940: "Lots of glum looking Atletico Madrid fans near me are upset that Torres is not playing tonight but they must know that Liverpool are not a one man team anymore. In Rafa we trust."
Scoopex, Anfield, via text on 81111

1937: "Annoyed at not be asked to do the live text for the election, Fletch?"
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You better believe it. I've always wanted to do a live text with auto refresh. Remains a dream of mine.

1933: Weather update - the rain has stopped in Rome. Plenty of space in the stadium by all accounts.

1929: Wow. The rain is really coming down in Rome. Cats and dogs. One of those days when a sliding tackle could take you 30 yards.

And just with regard to 1923 BST, gunner - rossmcd wins first prize for spotting that Marseille also have no points (not just Basle). Fact.

1926: Team news
Atletico's former Liverpool players, Luis Garcia and Florent Sinama-Pongolle, have been left out of the starting line-up and must hope they are called off the bench to make a return to the Anfield pitch. Sergio Aguero is on the bench.

1925: "I don't know whether to be more excited about Chelsea winning tonight, or Barack Obama being my next president. I voted this morning and I'll be supporting Chelsea this afternoon... I'd settle for a win and a win!"
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Now, now. Sport and politics just don't mix.

1923: Barca are the only team in the comp with a full nine of your earth points from their three fixtures. Basle are quite literally the only pointless outfit.Fact

1920: "Paul, who is the tallest out of you, Mr Stevenson and Ms Cheese? I've got more riding on this then I have on tonight's games."
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I'm going for gold, Caroline is a silver dream racer and Stevo is stuck in the bronze age. If you see what I mean.

1915: "Fletch, you're lucky you have paint to watch dry in your house. That'll be better than Werder Bremen v Panathinaikos anyway."
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Love it. Linking the painting thread with football. I was trying to think of a way of doing that but obviously lack your written skills. (Cue posts saying that I should not be in the job if I cannot express myself)

1912: Barcelona versus Basle. Doesn't seem very fair to me. They need to start handicapping in the Champions League. Barca, for example, can field only nine players until Basle take the lead.

1910: Something to help you cope with the post-footy withdrawal after the games finish. 606 with Danny Baker is on BBC Radio 5 live at 2200 GMT. You can watch live on the internet or by pressing red on your digital TV remote control. Any comments on Danny's 606 thread could make it into the programme - if they're good - so get commenting!
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One news agency that I have access to is reporting that some bloke called Diego Maradona has been officially confirmed as the new coach of Argentina. I was over that way last year and can confirm here and now that he is very popular indeed with the Argentines.

1905: It might be pouring down in Italy - and France for that matter - but no such drama in super dry Liverpool.

1903: (See 1850) "Be thankful your university has a Student Union bar! Ours shut the night of the final in May! More tears than JT!"
Anonymous via text on 81111

The shame of it. Surely they could close the odd department or two first. Subsidised beverages for our brave students is an absolute must, I would have thought.

1900: (See 1830) "Fletch - if you can't see where the white paint goes on, it probably doesn't need painting and your missus won't notice if you spend the evening in the pub instead.
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Not really. I tried to paint the ceiling the other day and could not see the wood for the trees. But this morning, as I looked admiringly at the aforementioned ceiling, it was very blotchy. A sort of new, clean white contrasting against a not so new white. I'll do anything not to have to paint it again. Almost.

1856: Tuesday's Champions League Group D match between Olympique Marseille and PSV Eindhoven goes ahead despite a flooded pitch.

The match had been in doubt because of torrential rain, which stopped two hours before kick-off, and pools of water along the touchlines.

Heavy rain is also falling in Rome where AS Roma were due to play Chelsea in Group A.

Roma's home league match with Sampdoria was abandoned after six minutes last Wednesday because of torrential rain.

1855: Team news
Chelsea make just the one enforced change to the side that beat Sunderland at the weekend, with Wayne Bridge coming in for the injured Ashley Cole at left-back. Roma skipper Francesco Totti has recovered from his knee injury to start, but John Arne Riise has to settle for a place on the bench.

1853: "Roma is sort of Tottenham before Redknapp, I cannot see too much of a problem for Chelsea. Much more interesting will be Liverpool against Atletico. If Sergio Aguero has his day like at he did PSV we will see a win for Atletico. The only question mark is that their defensive record is one of worst record in the Spanish league."
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What, that bad?

1850: "My students union has replaced football with live election news! It couldn't possibly be more exciting than the Champions League?"
Anonymous via text on 81111

I really do wonder for the future of our once glorious nation if the educational institutions are opting for an election that will have a profound effect on the future of the western world, nay the planet, above Champions League group stage football. Words fail me.

1845: (See 1830) "Fletch, I have two words for you - "Paint Bomb".

"First of all, put an incendiary device inside a giant industrial-size tanker of paint. Second, place tanker in house. Third, set timer on device and then go to the pub for a pint. You'll arrive home to a newly-decorated living quarters."
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Appreciate the advice. However, I like to get on with the painting without moving everything out of the room. The paint bomb theory would get the sofa and the telly covered in the stuff. Not too bothered about the sofa but trying to watch footy on the telly with white splodges all over the place...not great chat.

1840: Team news
So, injury means Liverpool striker Fernando Torres misses out on a match against his former club. The Spaniard does not even make the bench. Robbie Keane is up front, while Rafael Benitez makes one change from the team beaten by Spurs, with Fabio Aurelio coming in at left-back for Andrea Dossena.

Liverpool: Reina, Arbeloa, Aurelio, Carragher, Agger, Mascherano, Alonso, Gerrard, Riera, Kuyt, Keane. Subs: Cavalieri, Dossena, Benayoun, Babel, Lucas, Ngog, Degen.

1838: "I think it will be Chelsea's hardest game so far this season. Roma isn't an easy place to go and complacency could creep in after a 5-0 drubbing of Sunderland."
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Hmm. The other side of the coin, so to speak, to the view expressed at 1834.

1836: The answer to the question below is NO. Torres is not even on the bench.

1836: Will he or won't he? Who, what? Fernando Torres returning to action of course after five games out injured.

1835: Important reminder if you are heading out and about - you can still follow this text commentary and get all the scores on your mobile.

From a UK phone, just text FOOTBALL to 81010, it will cost you 10 to 15p and you will receive in return a link to our mobile site. Click on that, and you'll be straight through (then bookmark it so you never need to text that number again). The cost of being online on your phone will vary according to network and your own contract.

1834: I reckon Chelsea will be feeling pretty confident going into their match. Not only did they warm up for it by smashing Sunderland 5-0 on Saturday but they face opponents in terrible form. Roma have lost five consecutive games in all competitions and a 2-0 defeat at Juventus on Saturday left them one place above the Serie A drop zone. Oops.

1830 GMT: Now then. A busy night of Champions League action is in store for us this evening.

I'm well up for it as just about every day off I have at the moment is taken up fulfilling the wife's grand plan of decorating the flat.

Two questions - firstly, how can painting a tiny flat take so long?

And - if you're applying white paint to a ceiling that is already white how do you know what you have painted and what you haven't?

So, I came in to work today relishing the welcome distraction of some football action.

At least, that was, until Danny the Stat explained to me the possible scenarios by which Chelsea and Liverpool can secure qualification from their groups this evening.

The Liverpool situation is relatively straightforward. They will qualify if they beat Atletico and PSV fail to beat Marseille.

Chelsea is a different story entirely.

The Blues will qualify ONLY if they beat Roma and CFR Cluj beat Bordeaux.

However - if they beat Roma and CFR Cluj draw with Bordeaux - the only way the London outfit could slip up would be if they lost both their remaining CL games and Bordeaux and Cluj won both their remaining games, with Bordeaux beating Chelsea by five clear goals (or 4-0, in which case it would come down to goals scored in the whole qualifying campaign).

You'll probably need a little lie down after digesting that one. I know I did.

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