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Champions League as it happened


FT Arsenal 4-0 FC Twente (agg 6-0) Match report
FT Liverpool 1-0 Standard Liege (agg: 1-0) Match report


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By Jonathan Stevenson

2245: So that's it from me. Mark Bright is taking your calls on BBC Radio 5 Live, so get involved with the Palace and Owls legend. Thanks for your company, it's been blinding. And see you tomorrow for a bit of Uefa Cup action. Oh, and the group stage draw for the Champions League. Football is well and truly back.

2242: "Four games played and unbeaten. Performances have been poor but they will improve. Can't get any worse anyway. I'd take our position but we must play better footie or we will end up with a slap somewhere."
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2239: "So much relief I feel like crying."
MJ, B'ham, via text

2237: That is extraordinary. Having been largely outplayed over 210 minutes by the Belgian champions, yet again Liverpool have scraped into the Champions League group stage thanks to Dirk Kuyt's last-gasp goal. Did that goal just save Rafa Benitez's job? We may never know how close he was.

2235: Full-time Liverpool 1-0 Standard Liege

2231: GOAL Liverpool 1-0 Standard Liege
Dirk Kuyt does what Liverpool do in Europe - after playing badly, he gets on the end of a brilliant Ryan Babel cross from the left and directs the ball into the net from three yards. I'd say unbelievable, but it isn't. Liverpool are through.

2229: "It's games like this we need Crouch. He has the ability to break the tightest of deadlocks. Why oh why did you sell him Rafa?"
Sam in Birkenhead, via text

2226: Big shouts for a Liverpool penalty and let's be honest here, it's a stonewaller. Nabil El Zhar tricks his way into the box and Oguchi Onyewu trips him up. No more, no less. It's a penalty - except it isn't, cos it wasn't given. Strange.

2225: "At this rate even the penalty shoot-out will be 0-0."
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2222: Alvaro Arbeola hits an absolute crackerjack from 30 yards out on the right, that was out of the middle of the bat, and Rorys Aragon dives across his line to parry the ball away.

2222: "I would rather eat my own face than watch another 15 minutes of this drivel. Where is the attack? Where is the drive? We have no heart, and it's really upsetting."
Sam Gos from Reading, via text

You'd rather eat your own face? Who are you - me?

2218: "This is a disgrace. An absolute disgrace. Rafa oh Rafa, I'm sorry but I think it's time to go. 20m for Robbie Keane? Voronin? Kuyt on the right-wing? I've been looking forward to another season of disappointment all summer."
James, a thoroughly disillusioned Liverpool fan, via text

2217: Half-time in extra-time Liverpool 0-0 Standard Liege

2215: "Liverpool are seriously lacking ideas. Cue Torres to prove me wrong."
Mark from Gloucester, via text

2213: "(See 2207) Don't be ridiculous, Boloni probably told Rafa he's using Gerrard all wrong and it just HURTS to see it, even for an opposing manager."
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2209: Fernando Torres runs down the right wing and boots the ball straight out of play into the crowd. That's what happens when a cultured player spends a year in England. (Tick, tick, tick...)

2207: Ooooooooooooooh! Set-to at Anfield between the coaches as Rafa Benitez and Laszlo Boloni have a furious exchange on the touchline. They are still standing unbelievably close to each other. I think Benitez has accused a Standard player of diving. Silly business.

2204: "Standard Liege have outperformed Liverpool in every department over the two legs I am ashamed to say. There is no hunger, no desire, no effort, no spark about the Liverpool side. Keane and Torres' partnership is showing no encouraging signs at all. Can't wait to have Masch back as it will hopefully free up a bit of the ball winning responsibilities from Stevie G. We can consider ourselves EXTREMELY lucky if we get through this."
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2202: Into extra-time at Anfield.

2158: Carling Cup update: Carlton Cole has scored in extra-time, but it's taken West Ham an awfully long time to go in front against League Two Macclesfield, who are down to 10 men.

2156: Full-time Liverpool 0-0 Standard Liege
Don't go anywhere though. It's going to extra-time, you know. Not far off 1m per minute at stake now, in fairness.

2155: Full-time Arsenal 4-0 FC Twente (6-0 on aggregate)
Well done Arsenal, safely into the Champions League group stage. Wonder when Steve McClaren will next manage a game in England?

2154: Igor de Camargo sends a diving header just wide from a right-wing cross and Standard Liege nearly won it there. Boy oh boy oh boy.

2152: GOAL Arsenal 4-0 FC Twente
Nicklas Bendtner, who I always thought was a top drawer player, latches on to a lovely little Denilson back-heel in a crowded area to smash home a fourth for Arsenal. Poor old Steve McClaren. No brolly, but it's raining goals on his boys today.

2150: Dirk Kuyt fizzes a shot wide from 22 yards, decent hit from the Dutchman but the keeper probably had it covered. Two minutes plus stoppages left at Anfield.

2149: "I am a Gooner but don't want Liverpool to go out. Yet. We have a score to settle with the scousers."
Billy in Spain, via text

2147: Carling Cup updates: Jimmy Bullard has levelled for Fulham against Leicester and David Healy has put Sunderland ahead at Forest on his Black Cats debut. Boo for shocks.
Live scores - Carling Cup

2145: About 10 minutes to go in the Arsenal and Liverpool games, and they could not be in more different positions. Is Rafa Benitez's job on the line here? 20m Robbie Keane is taken off and Nabil El Zhar comes on.

2143: "I'm a Spurs fan watching Arsenal and I have to admit, Walcott's goal was pure class. We need him for England - FACT!!"
Rob, via text

2139: Standard Liege are sitting back a bit at Anfield, but Liverpool aren't looking massively threatening. What price a Stevie Gerrard winner deep into injury time? Or is that too obvious?

2136: "Is it me or has Bendtner has a shocker... again! I don't know if it's just me but I'm not sure if he's good enough to make the mark at Arsenal."
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He's not good enough for Arsenal. Sorry Nico.

2134: "Hey, don't knock Liverpool's efforts tonight. They obviously want to be in the Uefa Cup, it'll be their only chance of silverware this season."
Rick, a highly amused Man Utd fan, via text

2132: Carling Cup update: Phil Bardsley levels matters at the City Ground and we're heading for extra-time there.
Live scores - Carling Cup

2129: GOAL Arsenal 3-0 FC Twente
BBC Sport co-commentator Mark Lawrenson reckons this goal is just like a Thierry Henry special - and you know what? He's not wrong. Theo Walcott picks up the ball on the left touchline and makes for goal, no-one gets near him as he sprints through and finishes beautifully to make it 3-0. Stunning goal.

2129: "'Are you England in disguise?' Latest chant at the Emirates."
Ivan, via text

2128: Tell you what, Rafa Benitez will be most uncomfortable at the moment. It doesn't even bear thinking about for Liverpool not to qualify for the Champions League group stage. Does it?

2126: "That's two in two for Gallas in Europe. Let's stick him up front, cos he can't defend!"
Phil G, via text

2124: Fernando Torres fires in a left-foot shot from 15 yards that is blocked, though Ryan Babel was free on the left.

2123: A change that most of you Liverpool fans have been baying for - Yossi Benayoun is replaced by Ryan Babel.

2122: "Torres - second season syndrome?"
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Did you not see his goal against Sunderland? Seriously?

2118: Carling Cup update: Heartbreak for Macclesfield as everyone's favourite player Lee Bowyer bags for West Ham with only 16 minutes remaining. 1-1 at the Boleyn Ground.
Live scores - Carling Cup

2118: "'The best fans in the world' are unusually quiet at the moment. Sensing a Standard Liege goal possibly?"
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2115: GOAL Arsenal 2-0 FC Twente
William Gallas doubles Arsenal's advantage. He strides through the ball and the ball rebounds out to Nicklas Bendtner on the left. His right-foot shot is saved but Gallas is there to tap in from six yards. Bye bye Macca.

2114: "These Belgians are nothing! I'm loving all you doubting Thomases. Have a little faith and you'll see... this will be our best season in years."
Chris, via text

2109: Carling Cup update: League One Leicester have only gone and scored twice in two minutes and they now lead Premier League Fulham 2-1! They've got Paul Dickov and Andy King to thank.
Live scores - Carling Cup

2108: Back under way at Arsenal and Liverpool now.

2108: "So, is Rafa playing Keane AND Gerrard behind Torres, or what? Also, Steaua are through! Finally, some tradition returns to the European Cup! (That's right, the European Cup)."
Nick, Norwich, via text

2106: "Absolute rubbish from Liverpool. We don't deserve to be in the Champions League. I am afraid the chickens have come home to roost for Benitez. This isn't the beginning of the end - it's the middle of the end..."
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2103: Carling Cup update: Forest striker Rob Earnshaw curls a free-kick from 20 yards into the top corner to give the Championship side the advantage over Premier League Sunderland.
Live scores - Carling Cup

2101: "Am I right or wrong in thinking that the Liverpool game goes straight to pens, or is there extra-time?"
Mark, via text

Wrong mate, it'll massively be extra-time if it's 0-0. But if it's 1-1, Liege will go through.

2059: "Whenever I watch Van Persie, I always end up shaking my head saying "I can finish better than that"... and I'm American!"
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2055: "If they want to go on and score four or five, they can. It's the ideal game they needed after losing on Saturday. They can win with ease because they are so comfortable. "
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2053: Half-time Arsenal 1-0 FC Twente

2052: Half-time Liverpool 0-0 Standard Liege

2051: "When, oh when, is Rafa gonna ralise that Dirk Kuyt is NOT a right winger... please Rafa, stop the pain!"
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2047: Dirk Kuyt heads wide from a corner as Liverpool begin to press a little more at Anfield. They are still massively second best though.

2046: "Can't believe no-one mentioned Ricardo Quaresma. Liverpool playing rubbish. Thank God for Reina!"
Rod, London, via text

2044: Arsenal are being, er, Arsenal. In fact, they've never been more Arsenal. First Nicklas Bendtner takes so long to decide what to do he gets the ball nicked off his toes, before Robin van Persie takes 25 minutes to shoot and then curls wide with pretty much an open goal in front of him. Classic Arsenalling, that.

2043: "Anyway, Jonathan, only kids should call you Stevo, your mum I am sure would prefer grownup women (such as myself) and grownup guys, to call you Jonathan. So glad footie is back but after watching all those lovely Euro games (viva Espana!), it all seems a bit slow. However, it is a beautiful game... and so we live in hope!"
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Well my mum does indeed call me Jonathan. That's not up for debate. But the missus has been known to call me Stevo. Should I be annoyed, or think of it as endearing?

2039: Denilson surges into the FC Twente box and has a shot that cannons off the legs of Nicolay Mihailov. The Gunners are threatening to make this another torrid London night for Steve McClaren.

2038: "What was that awful cardigan Mascherano had on? Straight from the Alan Partridge summer catalogue."
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2036: Fabio Aurelio lets fly from 25 of your Anfield yards but it's another fairly comfortable save for Rorys Aragon.

2035: "Sat at West Ham wishing I was at home. We look as if we should be in League Two and they should be in the Prem. They want it and we don't. Shocking performance."
JG, via text

2033: Carling Cup update: Matt Derbyshire puts Blackburn ahead against Grimsby and Fulham are now beating Leicester. But at half-time, it's West Ham 0-1 Macclesfield. Oh Curbs.
Live scores - Carling Cup

2031: GOAL Arsenal 1-0 FC Twente
Theo Walcott scampers away down the right and his cross eventually finds Samir Nasri. Gosh, he's so Arsenal it's untrue. He turns down two chances to shoot, before finally slotting into the net. Lovely goal, game over.

2031: "Liverpool are playing like an angry drunk that has been woken from a decent nap."
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2028: Marcos Camozzato tries to catch Pepe Reina out by chesting the ball down and volleying in from 35 yards - the ball flies just wide and over, but only just. This isn't standard for Liverpool at all.

2026: End-to-end stuff at Anfield, this time it's Xabi Alonso who drills a shot inches wide from 25 yards out. Lovely hit of the ball from the Spanish midfielder. Meanwhile at Arsenal, Cesc Fabregas pulls the ball back and Robin van Persie launches it into the night sky.

2024: Without Pepe Reina, Liverpool would be out of the Champions League already. Igor de Camargo misses a cross from the right, but recovers the ball and crosses for Marouane Fellaini, who forces another exceptional left-handed save from the Spaniard.

2022: Carling Cup update: Less good news for shock fans. Carlos Villanueva has levelled for Blackburn. On his debut too. That little Chilean...
Live scores - Carling Cup

2021: Johan Djourou lashes a left-foot shot wide as FC Twente fail to clear a ball into the box. One goal away from wrapping it up aren't they, Arsenal?

2020: "Could someone get down there and give Denilson, a good old-fashioned slap for me? If not I'll go myself..."
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2018: First shot on target from Arsenal, but Robin van Persie's free-kick is easily gathered by FC Twente keeper Nicolay Mihailov.

2015: In the Carling Cup, it's lively. For those of you saying League Two Macclesfield beating Premier League West Ham would not be as big a shock as League One Northampton beating Bolton, Macclesfield have not won a point or scored a goal in their three league games this season. So there.

2013: Mbokani hammers in a left-foot shot from 25 yards that is heading towards Pepe Reina's right-hand corner until the Spaniard gets down brilliantly to tip it away. They are massively in a tie here, Liverpool.

2009: "Why do we keep playing Denilson? He was awful against Fulham and West Brom. My nan just rang, she fancies herself to start against Newcastle on Saturday."
Sully, via text

2007: Carling Cup update: It's shock o'clock. Tom Newey has bagged for Grimsby and they lead Paul Ince's Blackburn 1-0 at Ewood Park. There's something fishy going on tonight...
Live scores - Carling Cup

2006: And it kicks off at Liverpool too. Big night at Anfield.

2005: Under way at The Emirates as Cesc Fabregas takes part in his first competitive match since the Euro 2008 final.

2001: "Let's see if Rob 'n Nando can destroy this lot tonight. A 45m combo at home should really be doing the business."
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1956: Arsenal recall Cesc Fabregas after he recovered from a hamstring injury, but striker Emmanuel Adebayor is on the bench along with Emmanuel Eboue. Nicklas Bendtner starts, while Johan Djourou comes in at centre-half and Kolo Toure drops down to substitute.

1954: Carling Cup update: Macclesfield's Gareth Evans has put them 1-0 up at Upton Park against West Ham. To clarify, that would be the shock of the tournament this season.
Live scores - Carling Cup

1953: "Sat in a restaurant in Lake Garda with the missus hurrying her along so I can try and find a bar to watch the mighty Reds trample over the Belgians! Come on you Reds!"
Ross from Southampton - in Garda, via text

1951: "Ugh, this line-up fills me with nothing but dread. Wouldn't be surprised if we didn't qualify... Should never have sold Flamini."
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Not much optimism at the minute then?

1949: "This Liverpool line-up has the last three performances written all over it. Why oh why no Babel or Mascherano? They were playing footy and training in China for heaven's sake - it's not like they were strolling on the Great Wall or something. We may not be so lucky this time I fear. "
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1946: "What's this? Champions League live on BBC TV, have I misread?"
Matt, Basingstoke, via text

Nope. Loud and proud - football on the BBC. Awesome.

Arsenal: Almunia, Sagna, Gallas, Djourou, Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Denilson, Nasri, Van Persie, Bendtner.
FC Twente: Mihailov, Wielaert, Tiote, Franco, Braafheid, Denneboom, Heubach, Brama, Janssen, Elia, Huysegems.

1941: "Stevo, you remind me alot of my former biology teacher, who we also call Stevo, as his surname too was Stevenson. Haven't got a twin or brother have we? "
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Mate, I think there might be quite a few Stevensons around. There's only one Stevo, though (not the rugby league dude).

1936: "Stevo, not everyone is saying Mehmet Aurelio. I've said Maynor Figueroa twice. But no-one's acknowledged that."
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1934: Breaking news: Cesc Fabregas starts for Arsenal tonight. More to follow.

1932: I know how you think, trust me. Which is why I'm giving you this information, courtesy of Danny the Stat: Away goals count on 90 minutes tonight - ie the only way we can get extra-time is if Arsenal lose 2-0 or if Liverpool draw 0-0. Lovely stuff. Oh, and you can stop texting in Mehmet Aurelio in reply to 1922. I get the picture.

1928: So, Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez makes three changes to his side from the first leg. Captian Steven Gerrard is fit enough to start in midfield and comes in for youngster Damien Plessis, while Martin Skrtel replaces Daniel Agger in central defence and Fabio Aurelio gets the nod ahead of Andrea Dossena at left-back.

Liverpool: Reina, Arbeloa, Carragher, Skrtel, Aurelio, Kuyt, Gerrard, Alonso, Benayoun, Keane, Torres.
Standard Liege: Aragon, Camozzato, Onyewu, Sarr, Dante, Dalmat, Fellaini, Defour, Witsel, De Camargo, Mbokani.

1925: Just so you know, BBC Three will very kindly be showing the Arsenal-FC Twente game tonight. So if you want to see Cesc Fabregas strut his stuff and Steve McClaren talk in his mock-Dutch accent, I'd suggest you get involved. You'll be able to watch it on the website simultaneously, though you probably don't need me to tell you that. Oh - UK only, also.

1922: "Is Fabio Aurelio the only player in world football with every vowel in his surname?"
Fergal, London, via text

1919: There are also five Carling Cup games tonight. Now I'm not going to promise I'll mention every goal, because if every game is 4-4 I'll stitch myself right up. But if it gets lively, I'll keep you up to date. And if you're on your way to the City Ground to watch Forest v Sunderland in the Roy Keane derby, I hope you've remembered to wear green in honour of the greatest manager that ever graced our beautiful sport. I know I have.
Forest go green in Clough tribute
Live scores - Carling Cup

1914: "Am outside Anfield and I can promise you it is rocking already. Going for a 4-0 win for the Reds tonight, with the Anfield crowd making the difference."
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1910: Let's not forget about Liverpool too. Of the two English teams sweating on a place at European football's top table this term, Rafa Benitez will be feeling the heat more than Arsene Wenger. They host Standard Liege at Anfield, after a woeful display in Belgium two weeks ago when they were lucky to escape with a 0-0 draw. Game on.
Standard Liege 0-0 Liverpool

1906: McClaren of course returns to the shores of his greatest disaster only 280 days after his miserable England team were dumped out of Euro 2008 by Croatia at Wembley. He is the FC Twente manager these days and they play Arsenal at The Emirates. FC Twente are 2-0 down after the first leg, with a place in the group stage of the Champions League at stake.
FC Twente 0-2 Arsenal

1900: So, 12 years after football came home and four days after London Mayor Boris Johnson announced that whiff whaff is coming home, Steve McClaren comes home. Did you hear that McClaren once went to a Cinderella fancy dress ball dressed as a pumpkin? Apparently he was hoping he'd turn into a coach at midnight.*

There's a lot at stake tonight, in these Champions League third qualifying round second legs. About 20m, if reports are to be believed. So about a third as crucial as Championship play-off final day, then? Get your texts in to 81111 and join the debate on 606. Brilliant.
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* This is a joke. The BBC has the utmost respect for the former England chief. Honest.

see also
FC Twente 0-2 Arsenal
13 Aug 08 |  Europe
Standard Liege 0-0 Liverpool
13 Aug 08 |  Europe

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