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Champions League as it happened

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SCORES

FT FC Twente 0-2 Arsenal Match report
FT Standard Liege 0-0 Liverpool Match report

GOALFLASHES AND MAJOR INCIDENTS (all times BST)

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By Jonathan Stevenson

2205: I think that'll do for tonight, don't you? Being hammered by Arsenal fans at the end there was a lovely reminder of the fun I have doing these live updates - I really hope you (ocasionally) enjoy them too. After all, what is football without banter? Join the Olympics crew in a couple of hours for some remarkable sports, and get involved nice and early on Saturday when Miss Football, Caroline Cheese, will be here to guide you through the opening day of the Premier League. Standard.

2201: "Liege played well from what I saw, but you do think they've missed their best opportunity. Liverpool should win the home leg."
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Yeah, I'd have to agree with you there pal. Though they could so easily have won 2-0 tonight and that would have set up an absolute belter at Anfield. Don't forget though, that former Newcastle defender Oguchi Onyewu will be back from suspension for that one.

2156: Full-time Standard Liege 0-0 Liverpool

2154: Steven Gerrard curls in a free-kick from 25 yards, but Rorys Aragon collects comfortably. Easy night for the Standard keeper.

2154: "Spurs must be licking their lips and smelling blood after this tonight."
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2150: Standard have played some great stuff tonight and they work their way in from the left, only for our mate Dante to mis-place the final pass, though it would have been ruled out for offside anyway. They've been top drawer and Liverpool know it will not be easy at Anfield in two weeks.

2147: Igor de Camargo goes down in a massively theatrical way in the Liverpool penalty area and there is nothing doing for referee Tom Ovrebo from Norway.

2146: French-born Moroccan Nabil El Zhar comes on for Liverpool, replacing Dirk Kuyt.

2144: I've been slaughtered by one text punter, who chooses to remain anonymous (surprise), about not telling the story of the Arsenal game tonight. Well there wasn't that much to say in fairness, but I think you'll find if you scroll down there are occasional comments about the game - not just the two goals. Read Andrew McKenzie's match report for further details. And pipe down, anonymous.
FC Twente 0-2 Arsenal report

2136: Tell you what, that Igor De Camargo has been unlucky not to score tonight. The 25-year-old Brazilian flicks a header towards goal but Pepe Reina has read the situation well and he punches clear after coming out to deal with the danger.

2135: Full-time FC Twente 0-2 Arsenal

2134: "Liverpool are lucky not to be losing. Suddenly the 18m we (Spurs) got for Keane is looking like a great sale."
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Chill out. One game son, one game.

2130: Robbie Keane is hauled off on his Liverpool debut and Steven Gerrard, who was injured in a pre-season friendly a week ago, comes on. Massive risk for Liverpool this.

2129: Magnificent cross from the left from the brilliant (apart from taking penalties) Dante Bonfim right on to the head of Igor De Camargo, but he can only head inches wide from 10 yards. Would have been a fabulous goal, that.

2127: A rare Liverpool attack comes to nothing and will Rafa Benitez be considering bringing on semi-fit captain Steven Gerrard with his team struggling?

2123: GOAL FC Twente 0-2 Arsenal
Game over, tie over, Arsenal into the Champs Lge. A long ball over the top is chased down by Theo Walcott and the speedy little winger tees up Emmanuel Adebayor to slam in his first goal of the season.

2120: Marko Arnautovic is still waiting for his first FC Twente goal after he latches on to a pass into the box and clips a shot with the outside of his right foot into the side-netting. The great Brian Clough would have hauled him off there for not using his left foot.

2118: Robbie Keane is given the ball and he and Fernando Torres look to break quickly, but the Irishman's pass to the Spaniard is a shocker and the move breaks down. Their partnership might be a slow burner on this evidence.

2116: "I find some of the efforts to be quoted on the main Champions League page a little painstaking. Can we just concentrate on the football please instead of making woeful puns and lame attempts at humour? "
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OK, you've made your point. Only the very best get through now.

2114: Liverpool still under the cosh and Igor de Camargo has a chance for Standard, but he mis-kicks his shot after a cross from the left and the opportunity goes begging.

2110: Back under way in Belgium.

2109: Robin van Persie is booked for a needless late tackle on Rob Wielaert. Silly boy.

2107: "Liverpool are absolutely shocking. Andrea Dossena is terrible along with the rest of the defence. Flat up front and non existent in midfield. The worst 45 minutes of their season by far."
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2104: GOAL FC Twente 0-1 Arsenal
William Gallas gets Arsenal in front, but it's anyone's guess which part of his body his put it in with. Robin van Persie flings over an inswinging free-kick from the right and Gallas, on the run towards goal, converts.

2102: "Will Liverpool still be so Keane Torres(t) Gerrard in the second half?"
Jamie from London, via text

2058: "Shock! Liverpool survive an over-the-line-but-not-counted incident in the Champions League! Deja vu anyone??"
Sam, High Wycombe, via text

2057: "I think Arsenal would be better off with Alf Ramsey playing rather than Aaron Ramsey."
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That's Sir Alf, World Cup legendary World Cup-winning manager to you, pal.

2052: Half-time in Belgium and Liverpool are lucky to be going in at 0-0.

2051: Breaking news: Thierry Henry starts for Barcelona tonight in their qualifier against Wisla Krakow. There endeth the frankly ridiculous speculation linking the Arsenal legend with a move to Manchester United.

2049: "Has Benitez orchestrated this pathetic display to demonstrate to Parry, Hicks etc how much he needs Barry? He's better off at Villa."
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2046: Back under way between FC Twente and Arsenal. No more Grolsch or Ramsey comments. Instead, anyone got any thoughts on McClaren? (Tick, tick, tick...)

2043: "Is it fair to say that Liverpool Arbeloa par?"
Duncan, in France, via text

Yep. Good work, mon ami. Xabi Alonso whips another free-kick over the bar, incidentally.

2041: "How many free-kicks is Alonso going to waste before he lets someone else take one? It's called Beckham syndrome I believe."
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2039: I think Liverpool have forgotten that the giant Peter Crouch isn't playing for them anymore. They launch a sky ball up to Fernando Torres and after he tries but fails to win the header, he looks back down the pitch as if to say 'what the hell am I supposed to do with that?'

2034: Absolute rubbish. Alvaro Arbeloa gets played into some space down the right for Liverpool, but his attempted cross drifts beyond the goal. Basic, that is.

2032: Xabi Alonso is booked for a foul on Dieudonne Bezua. Careless challenge from behind, that.

2030: Half-time in the Netherlands and Arsenal have been second best so far. But don't worry - even if they do lose, there is a second leg. It'll be in around two weeks' time, I'm led to believe.

2029: "(See 2017) Superb pun on Ramsey. It Dossena get better than that."
Daffy, London, via text

2027: Deary me. Marko Arnautovic lashes wildly over the bar for FC Twente. According to Andrew McKenzie, our man on Arsenal, the Austrian-born hitman is yet to score for FC Twente. This is his 17th game.

2024: Both English teams are struggling a bit here (cue goals for Adebayor and Torres) and Wenze Kabama is narrowly adjudged offside as Standard try to breach the Liverpool defence once again.

2020: Marko Arnautovic is put through by Romano Denneboom but he mis-controls and Manuel Almunia races from his line to clear the danger. At the other end Robin van Persie beats the keeper on to a through ball but his cross is headed away. End-to-end stuff.

2017: Penalty saved. Pepe Reina is Liverpool's spot-kick hero again, saving with his legs what must be called a pretty pathetic effort from Brazilian left-back Dante Bonfim. "I'm not sure that'll be the peak of Dante's career," says my colleague Mandeep.

2017: Penalty to Standard Liege for a handball against left-back Andrea Dossena, even though it appeared to be outside the box. Interesting.

2017: Aaron Ramsey rifles a shot a bit high and a bit wide for Arsenal in Arnhem, where they are really playing. A goal on his debut would be right up Ramsey's street.

2013: Oh my. Standard are rampant against Liverpool and Marouane Fellaini gets on the end of a free-kick from the left, the ball coming off his left shoulder, hitting the post and appearing to drift over the line before Pepe Reina clawed the ball away. In fact, scrap 'appearing' - that was in, should have been a goal. Fact. Lucky start for Liverpool.

2012: "I have just been watching a recent McClaren interview. It is laughable. At first, he is speaking with a Dutch accent, then he lets his standards slip by speaking with a English accent and then he resorts back to a poor Dutch accent. "
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It's all Dutch to me.

2009: The lively Romano Denneboom skips past an Arsenal challenge and fires over from just inside the box. He's got dangerous written all over him tonight.

2007: Someone's phone in the office just rang. It's the Knight Rider tune. Thoughts?

2005: The Grolsch Veste, which I'm beginning to wish I'd never heard of, is being expanded, so isn't available tonight. Meanwhile, Liverpool are under way in Belgium. I won't even bother talking about where this is being played.

2001: I might as well just resign. Apparently FC Twente have borrowed Vitesse Arnhem's Gelrodome for tonight. I don't know why, but they've made me look like a fool, like a fool. Still, at least Forest are beating little Morecambe thanks to the brilliant Chris Cohen. Sorry.
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1958: Very quiet start from Arsenal. Robin van Persie gets away down the right thanks to a burst of acceleration, but his tentative right-foot cross is blocked. Grolsch Veste, incidentally, means Grolsch Fortress - the main Grolsch brewery is actually in Enschede, home of Twente. Get the beers in, McClaren.

1952: I'm not making this up, but it's absolutely rocking in the 24,353-capacity Grolsch Veste tonight. The FC Twente fans are either really, really happy to have the great Steve McClaren as their boss, or they just love life.

1950: STANDARD LIEGE v LIVERPOOL LINE-UPS
Standard Liege: Aragon, Dante, Dalmat, Defour, Mbokani, De Camargo, Mikulic, Camozzato, Sarr, Fellaini, Witsel.
Liverpool: Reina, Arbeloa, Dossena, Carragher, Agger, Alonso, Plessis, Benayoun, Kuyt, Keane, Torres.

1947: Football. Awesome. I'm just so happy. Twente bossing it still, Romano Denneboom heads over at the back stick. He was very promising earlier on in his career, got some pace about him for sure.

1945: It is under way in the Netherlands. It's been all FC Twente in the opening seconds.

1941: "(See 1932) It's my name. It is Welsh. I am Welsh. Just like Ramsey."
Guto, via text

Oh. In which case, sorry. 41 minutes into my season and I've offended an entire nation already. Guto.

1941: FC TWENTE v ARSENAL LINE-UPS
FC Twente: Boschker, Wielaert, Tiote, Franco, Braafheid, Wilkshire, Brama, Arnautovic, Janssen, Elia, Denneboom.
Arsenal: Almunia, Sagna, Djourou, Gallas, Clichy, Eboue, Ramsey, Denilson, Walcott, Adebayor, Van Persie.

1939: Breaking news quotes-type thing from FC Twente boss Steve McClaren: "It's a huge game," he said. "You can't get any bigger." Er...

1937: In the office, we got all misty-eyed earlier reminiscing about Euro Two Thousand And Great. What a tournament. Anyway, in the spirit of rememberance, here's two Stevo predos:
FC Twente 0-2 Arsenal
Standard Liege 1-3 Liverpool
Euro Two Thousand And Great

1932: "Great to see Ramsey playing. He is magic."
Guto, via text

Glad you're happy, guto. Though if that's a nickname, presumably this isn't a state you find yourself in very often?

1928: Arsenal team news:
Arsenal hand a debut to teenager Aaron Ramsey in a youthful line-up that also includes Johan Djourou, Denilson and Theo Walcott. Robin van Persie and Emmanuel Adebayor are up front but Cesc Fabregas and Abou Diaby are out. FC Twente manager Steve McClaren names Australian international Luke Wilkshire in his starting line-up.

1927: "McClaren's last England game was on the Twente-first of November. I'll get my coat."
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You do that. Honestly, a whole summer to come up with stuff...

1925: You haven't forgotten how to get involved, have you? I'd have thought 81111 would be in your mobile phone favourites by now. And you can always join the debate on 606 if you'd rather. We like to make it easy for you, don't we?

1922: Liverpool team news:
Xabi Alonso starts for Liverpool as Steven Gerrrad, who has a thigh injury, is not risked. Alonso had been linked to a move away from the Reds to fund a move for Gareth Barry but his inclusion means he would be cup-tied for any future club. Andrea Dossena is at left-back, while Fernando Torres and Robbie Keane spearhead the attack.

1920: "If Steve McClaren wins tonight I'll eat my umbrella!"
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I'd put it away for a rainy day if I was you, son.

1917: Breaking news: Xabi Alonso starts for Liverpool. Also more to follow.

1915: Arsenal travel to the Netherlands to take on last season's surprise Eredivisie package FC Twente. It must have been a bigger shock to supporters of The Tukkers when heavily-lampooned former England coach Steve McClaren was named as their new manager in the summer. Meanwhile, Liverpool are in Tintin country for a clash with Belgian champions Standard Liege.

1912: Breaking news: Aaron Ramsey starts for Arsenal. More to follow.

1910: It's the third qualifying round, first legs of the Champions League and tonight, Liverpool and Arsenal are massively in the mixer. They cannot afford a slip-up, either. Just ask Walter Smith and his Rangers boys.
Rangers count cost of Euro defeat

1906: So put your shuttlecocks away, forget about how GB were foiled in the fencing and stop thinking about how you can next use the word 'Qingdao' in Scrabble. We've got two pitches, two balls, four nets and two of England's great football clubs to concentrate on.
Olympics day six preview

1900: Medals, pedals, Tweddle. It's all a bit Chinese to me. I'll be honest - there's not a part of the Olympics I understand. Anyone fancy a bit of the world's most popular sport by a mile? Me too.




see also
FC Twente 0-2 Arsenal
13 Aug 08 |  Europe
Standard Liege 0-0 Liverpool
13 Aug 08 |  Europe


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