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By Chris Bevan
1803: But my work here is done - thanks for keeping me company on what was a very good day for England and a very bad day for Wales. Join Colin Moffatt for live text commentary of Scotland v Brazil at 1400 BST on Sunday (remember to put the clocks forward!) and I will see you again on Tuesday for more international action. Cheerio for now.
1759: There are plenty of other Euro 2012 qualifiers going on as well, and you can follow all the latest scores from Dublin and elswhere
on the BBC Sport website.
What else is happening? Well, in the Football League, the League Two's bottom side Barnet take on leaders Chesterfield at 1800 GMT. You can see highlights of that and today's other 11 Football League matches on the Football League Show on BBC1 and Online (UK users only) from 2355-0045 GMT.
1755: Russia's 0-0 draw with Armenia means they stay top of Group B, but means only three points seperate the top four sides (thanks to
for bringing this to my attention on Twitter). Russia are top with 10 points, ahead of Armenia on eight. The Republic of Ireland will go joint top if they beat Macedonia tonight, as will Slovakia if, as expected, they beat Andorra. In a word, that group is close. In two words, very close.
1748: OK, one of my questions from 1732 has been answered. England coach Fabio Capello says he will make 11 changes to his team for Tuesday's friendly with Ghana at Wembley. Next question: Should Wolves winger Matt Jarvis get a start?
England captain John Terry on Fabio Capello's tactics to stop Wales playing their way out of defence: "The new system was very positive, the attitude was to get at them and press them very high up the pitch. It stopped them breaking out early."
1742: Let's remember this was only Gary Speed's second game in charge of Wales, and he was up against a vastly more-experienced coach in Fabio Capello who also had far more quality players in his side - without picking on Steve Morison, Wales clearly do not have a top-class striker at the moment like they did when the likes of Ian Rush, Dean Saunders and Mark Hughes... or even John Hartson were on the scene. Having said that, I still think he should have started with David Vaughan - Wales don't have enough Premier League players as it is, so why leave out one of your better ones?
Wales boss Gary Speed after his side's defeat by England: "I'm disappointed with the first-half performance. We are a developing team and used to getting beat. We have not got that winning mentality at the moment. Losing a goal in the first five minutes killed us really."
From Ger in Dublin, via text: "Re 1732. Let's just keep in mind this was Wales, I don't think Gerrard will be too worried, 2-0 was a bit mediocre in fairness, put the trumpets away!"
1735: Outside of Cardiff, Euro 2012 goals have been hard to come by today. Armenia and Russia fought out a goalless draw earlier, and it is still 0-0 in Bulgaria-Switzerland and Georgia-Croatia.
1732: Hmmm. Is there anyone out there who was NOT impressed by England midfielders Scott Parker and Jack Wilshere today!?! Should Fabio Capello stick with them in Tuesday's friendly with Ghana. And would you pick them both for England's next competitive match, a qualifier against Switzerland at Wembley on 4 June, if Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard are both fit? Questions, questions...
quincymcfrog on Twitter:
"England's central midfield should be Scott Parker, Jack Wilshere and Steven Gerrard or Frank Lampard but not both. Its as simple as that!"
1724: By the way, only the group winners, plus the runner-up with the best record against the top five teams in their group qualify automatically for the finals of Euro 2012 in Poland/Ukraine.
The eight remaining runners-up go into play-off matches
in November 2011 to decide the final four sides to join the co-hosts. Still a bit of work to do for England, then.
England coach Fabio Capello on his approach to his side's comfortable win in Cardiff: "I decided on the formation after watching games that Wales played. It is really good because players like Ashley Young are improving a lot. I'm happy with the spirit, we worked together to win back the ball, each player helping the others."
OptaJoe on Twitter:
"60 - Scott Parker made the most passes on the pitch (60 - excl. crosses), completing 53 of them (88%). Comfortable."
England forward Ashley Young on his side's 4-3-3 line-up in their win in Cardiff: "It was a new formation for us but people knew what they were doing and it worked. We worked on getting the ball back as soon as we lost it and putting them under pressure straight away."
1714: There is another game going on in Group G (the same one as England and Wales), in Sofia where Bulgaria are currently drawing 0-0 with Switzerland, about 25 minutes in. A win for either of these sides would see them move within four points of England and Montenegro, who both have 10 points, at the top.
Football League Westy: "Tom Bradshaw hit his second goal of the game in the 87th minute to give Shrewsbury a 2-1 win at Bradford in League Two in the only 1500 GMT kick-off in the Football League. Just one game remains now - kicking off in around 45 minutes as second-from-bottom Barnet, now managed for the second time by Martin Allen, take on leaders Chesterfield."
From anonymous, via text: "Re 1649. Parker does that EVERY week for West Ham and it's incredible he hasn't had many chances in the England fold. Clear man of the match today. Class."
BBC Wales Sport's David Dulin at the Millennium Stadium: "Wales fans came in hope but they left disappointed. An improved second half but the damage was already done in the first when they were outplayed and outclassed."
From anonymous, via text: "Re 1645. These laser pens are a menace. I'm a pilot and we sometimes have them shone at us when we're landing."
It seems there are idiots outside of football stadiums too. Even bigger idiots...
Wales captain Aaron Ramsey after his side's defeat by England: "We gave away two early goals and could not recover. After that we had a mountain to climb. We showed glimpses of what we are capable of doing. It was a great occasion for me but the result has put a downer on it."
From Chris in Leeds, via text: "England regularly get crticised for not dispatching smaller teams with ease. Now that we're doing it, messages on here are suggesting it won't be a proper win because we wouldn't have beaten a 'bigger' side. Will people never be happy? The joys of cynicism!
Former Wales midfielder and BBC pundit Robbie Savage: "Wales were slow and lethargic and although I am through and through Welsh, I have to say that it was an inept performance. Against better players you have to do something different and Wales were not going to out-pass England."
1658: So, England's convincing win means they move above Montenegro on goal difference at the top of Group G. Wales did get better after a hopeless first 15 minutes but they remain bottom without a point after four games, and without a goal under new boss Gary Speed.
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "England have won this game extremely comfortably. England started at a high tempo and Wales could not live with them. I'm sure that the next team that Wales boss Gary Speed selects will have second-half substitute David Vaughan in it. Wales had a better shape in the second half and their passing was better, but Speed has a lot of hard work to do with his team."
Football League Westy: "Meanwhile in League Two, Tom Bradshaw equalises for Shrewsbury at Bradford - making the score 1-1."
FULL-TIME Wales 0-2 England
1653: Wales' best effort of the match sees Craig Bellamy make space for a shot, and he unleashes a bouncing shot that has Joe Hart at full stretch as it flies wide.
1651: We are into added time in Cardiff - there will be just two minutes of it. Stewart Downing has just come within an inch or two of making it 3-0, cutting inside and seeing his shot fizz a fraction wide.
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "I think that Scott Parker is England's man of the match. I do not think there is anybody who has come close to him."
1649: We should give a lot of credit to Scott Parker for his work in England's midfield today, where he has held England together superbly. Parker's work is done - he has just been replaced by Phil Jagielka. Anyway, back to the action... if that is what you want to call it: this game is petering out.
1647: Five minutes of the 90 to go and ANOTHER booking. James Collins tugs on Darren Bent's shirt, repeatedly. Why doesn't he just wait until full-time and ask him for it?
1645: Oh dear. Jack Wilshere had a laser-pen shone at him as he came off, which is something we don't want to see on these shores. Not sure what Craig Bellamy had thrown at him earlier either, but it seems is Wales 1-1 England in terms of idiot fans.
1645: Er, hello bookings. Olegario Benquerenca gets his card out again, this time when Glen Johnson catches Ched Evans. Again, harsh.
1643: And Craig Bellamy also picks up a yellow card after saying a bit too much to referee Olegario Benquerenca in the aftermath of that decision. Not like Bellamy to be lippy, is it?
1642: David Vaughan slides in on Jack Wilshere, and gets plenty of the ball. A harsh booking, that one. Anyway, Wilshere is not hurt but he is still coming off after another impressive afternoon. Stewart Downing is on instead.
Football League Westy: Finally, a goal in the solitary 1500 GMT Football League kick-off as Tom Adeyemi gives Bradford the lead at home to Shrewsbury in League Two.
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "Since Craig Bellamy has started to drop a little deeper and run at the opposition, committing the England midfielders, Wales have started to look like a different team."
BBC Sport Wales' David Dulin at the Millennium Stadium: "The double substitution has given Wales a little spark, they seem to have got their passing game going. There is still time to unlock this England defence but Joe Hart needs to be tested."
1637: Joe Hart comes off his line to punch clear another Craig Bellamy corner, after Glen Johnson had to head Joe Ledley's cross behind. A goal for Wales now would make things very interesting in the last 10 minutes, especially considering they were 2-0 down in the first 15 minutes.
1636: A couple more corners for Wales. And they do much better with them this time, with first Craig Bellamy and then Joe Ledley swinging them into the danger zone. Joe Hart deals with the second one, under a lot of pressure too.
From Rich in Essex, via text: "I think England have performed admirably after all the attention they have had this week. Wilshere Lampard and Parker have controlled the midfield and Rooney, Bent and Young look lively up front with players like Carroll, Defoe and Crouch also around the squad. Things looking good with new formation."
1635: Craig Bellamy has something chucked at him from the crowd before he takes it. He then over-hits it - it is far too deep for any of his team-mates who are waiting in the box.
1633: Wales have won their first corner. With 18 minutes to go.
garrethhawkins on Twitter:
"England are playing well, but have made a few mistakes in the last 5 minutes that a better team could have capitalised upon."
1631: Wales midfielder Joe Ledley wants a free-kick after he is brushed off the ball by Glen Johnson. He doesn't get one, but he does get a yellow card for complaining about the decision.
1629: Here's England's first change of the day. James Milner is on, Wayne Rooney is off. Milner will be quite comfortable out on the left, I would have thought.
1629: England have only kept 11 clean sheets in Fabio Capello's 34 games in charge. They have got 20 minutes left if they want to make that 12.
1629: England's best opening for a while sees Wayne Rooney pull the ball back for Jack Wilshere on the edge of the area. Wilshere has time to pick his spot, but blasts the ball over the bar. A bit of a waste.
1628: David Vaughan's first contribution is a perfectly timed sliding challenge to stop Ashley Cole in his tracks as he bursts forwards. I'm still not sure why the Blackpool midfielder did not start today.
1627: A double change for Wales, with 25 minutes left. Ched Evans and David Vaughan on for Steve Morison and Andy King. Craig Bellamy appears to have moved into a more central role, alongside Evans.
From Coop in Didsbury , via text: "Hopefully Super Scotty Parker has put an end to the Gerrard/Lampard duo nonsense we've endured for the last few years with an excellent defensive midfield showing."
1625: Frank Lampard whips a free-kick into the box from the left but it is straight at Wayne Hennessey. At the other end, Michael Dawson is a bit lucky to get away with a slip at a vital moment... England clear.
1623: Another Wales chance, this time when John Terry gives the ball away under pressure. Aaron Ramsey shows what he can really do with a delicate touch to give him room for a shot but he lifts the ball over Joe Hart's bar. Are England becoming a touch complacent here?
Former England boss Graham Taylor on BBC Radio 5 live: "From England's point of view they have handled the match well since the restart. There has not been the pace in the game that there was in the first half but England have had a lot of possession and made the opposition run. Given the build up during the week, England have come out and put on a very good performance."
BBC Sport Wales' David Dulin at the Millennium Stadium: "The mood of the crowd has lifted slightly as they are seeing Wales have a go, but England still don't look as if they've got out of first gear."
1621: A sniff for Wales but a very nervous (and heavy) touch by Steve Morison soon ends that threat. The Millwall striker was played in by Aaron Ramsey after Craig Bellamy won back possession, but Morison's first touch was terrible.
1620: It is not quite what happened for the England penalty but Ashley Young is very clever when it comes to stopping sharply in front of a defender and drawing a foul just by having them run into him. It just happened again there.
1617: Andrew Crofts clatters Jack Wilshere, and that is another yellow card for referee Olegario Benquerenca to dish out. Almost an hour gone in Cardiff, and England still lead 2-0.
From anonymous Swansea fan, via text: "Wales need to get Joe 'the destroyer' Allen on- he's been ruining opposition midfields all season in the Championship for Swansea - certainly no point keeping things as they are... "
1615: Yes, Wales have improved, but Jack Wilshere is still looking mightily impressive for England in the middle of the park. He is one of those players who is able to create space if he cannot find it. This time he tries to slide Darren Bent clear, but Wayne Hennessey is off his line in the nick of time to collect.
1614: Craig Bellamy and Andy King link up again, this time with a diagonal ball for the Leicester man that he does reach. King tries his luck from the edge of the box - it flies high and wide, but it is a shot... and that is the only one Wales have managed so far. Encouraging for Gary Speed's side.
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "England have got an insurance policy with Scott Parker playing in a holding midfield role. From Wales' point of view, I think it is important that they try to keep England in their own half for a while."
1612: Again, better by Wales. Craig Bellamy cuts in from the left and tries to play in Andy King on the opposite flank... but puts a little bit too much on his pass. Not his fault, though, apparently... Bellamy gives King a mouthful for not being able to reach it.
1610: Jack Wilshere tries a backheel but gives the ball away. Wales go on the attack, but Craig Bellamy cannot reach a ball down the left and it rolls out of play.
DavePayn on Twitter:
"Re 1557. England have as much chance of winning Euro 2012 as Wales have of winning this match."
1608: It is England who are first to threaten, though. Under pressure from a back-pass, Wayne Hennessey gives the ball straight to Ashley Young, and he sends over a looping cross from the right that is only just too high for Wayne Rooney at the far post.
1606: Wales appear to be doing a bit better in midfield. Early days, though, and they could hardly do any worse could they?
1605: We are back under way. Wales get the second half started.
WelshBoy2011 on Twitter:
"Re 1557. Let's be honest, it's Wales not Spain, I think England should not get to excited about the result."
Former England boss Graham Taylor on BBC Radio 5 live: "The big thing for me is that I hope Fabio Capello notices that England's natural holding player is Scott Parker, that has enabled Frank Lampard and Jack Wilshere to go up and down the pitch like old-fashioned inside forwards."
rimingtonsking on Twitter:
"Speed was simply the wrong appointment. Of all the people available, the FAW goes for the man relegating Sheffield Utd. Poor."
Harsh, especially if you are suggesting Chris Coleman should have got the job? Who else was available? Speed is learning on the job, and he will, hopefully for Wales, learn a huge lesson today. They were never going to qualify for Euro 2012 anyway, were they?
Whereswalters1 on Twitter:
"Terry leading by example, Capello getting tactics correct, Villa dominating the attack. Seems times have changed!"
Former Wales midfielder and BBC pundit Robbie Savage: "Why are we trying to play like we are, especially when Gary Speed has left David Vaughan out of the team? Joe Ledley is having a nightmare and it has been a poor performance so far. I wish I could say Wales had been positive and aggressive but they have been neither."
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "You have to credit England - they are playing a basic 4-3-3 and all the players have adhered to that way of playing. Wales were extremely nervous and gave the ball away too much. They have contributed to their own downfall."
1557: And does this tell us anything about England, other than that they are good enough to take a poorly-organised side made up of several Championship players to the cleaners? Or should I put my house on Fabio Capello's men winning Euro 2012?
1555: So, can anyone suggest a way that Wales can turn this game around? Other than inventing a time machine and bringing Charles, Rush, Hughes etc in their prime back to present-day Cardiff.
OptaJoe on Twitter:
"1 - Wales managed just one touch in the England goal area in the first half. Sheepish."
From Sion in Cardiff, via text: "Even though Gary Speed's managerial record is poor, the bigger worry is the gulf in talent on the pitch."
Football League Westy: "Only one Football League game taking place at present - it is in League Two where Bradford take on Shrewsbury. The visitors have had more attempts on goal in the first half but neither side has broken the deadlock."
On this evidence, John Charles, Ian Rush, Mark Hughes, Ryan Giggs and Neville Southall woudn't have made a difference.
BBC Wales Sport's David Dulin at the Millennium Stadium: "Wales fans had hope before kick off, but that seems to have long disappeared as Gary Speed's side have been outclassed and they have offered no threat going forward. Changes have to be made."
1549: HALF-TIME Wales 0-2 England Phil McNulty'sHT snapshot from the Millennium Stadium: "Easier than England could possibly have imagined in the first 45 minutes against a Wales side desperately lacking in quality. Domination in all parts of the pitch and impressive displays from Scott Parker and Ashley Young. Fabio Capello will simply demand more of the same."
1547: Ashley Cole does well to intercept when Craig Bellamy cuts inside and tries to release Andy King. The ball runs through to England keeper Joe Hart, who picks it up. The Wales fans claim it was a back-pass, it wasn't. That's how desperate they are right now, I'm afraid to say.
1546: Ashley Young curls over a free-kick from the right but James Collins clears. England are ending this half on the attack, and a third goal would clearly kill the game off completely.
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "I tell you what is great about Jack Wilshere - he is so patently, obviously ready for international football. And, for once, England have put him in the side and want him to grow with the team."
1543: Ashley Young tries a snap-shot after picking up the ball from a throw... it is a lovely strike but flies over the bar. That was England's fifth attempt on goal so far. Wales? They have not even managed one.
BBC Sport Wales' David Dulin at the Millennium Stadium: "It's very flat here apart from in the corner to my left where the England fans are housed. Aaron Ramsey is trying hard to impress and lift Wales, but England look too comfortable."
1542: Jack Wilshere picks up the ball for England and drives forward before slipping Darren Bent clear. Wayne Hennessey is off his line quickly to clear the danger, but Wales need to tighten up at the back... and quickly.
1540: Our first yellow card of the afternoon, which is shown to Wayne Rooney when he lunges in and sends Joe Ledley flying.
1539: Craig Bellamy is now on the left for Wales - Andy King has come over to the right. Neither have seen much of the ball so far. Around 10 minutes left until half-time and the England fans are making all the noise.
Chief football writer Phil McNulty at the Millennium Stadium:
"England pressing so well, especially Scott Parker, that they are quickly ensuring Wales run out of the very few ideas they seem to have. Aston Villa manager Gerard Houllier will be watching the effectiveness of Darren Bent and Ashley Young with particular interest. What could have been a great atmosphere inside the Millennium Stadium is now desperately subdued."
1538: The general consensus on Aaron Ramsey is that he is trying too hard - he is certainly making a lot of uncharacteristic errors - is that because he is captain? Anyway, Wales have a free-kick, about 30 yards out on the left. Craig Bellamy bends it in but Joe Hart punches clear, taking the ball off Steve Morison's head. Good goalkeeping.
From Ash in Exeter, via text: "Re 1354. I hope Ron from Cardiff didn't put his money where his mouth was on that 3-1 to Wales prediction!?"
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "This is not world class football being played by England - it is basic. Wayne Rooney has been ask to play on the left as he occasionally is for Manchester United in the Champions League, and he is doing his job extremely well, as are all the rest of the English players."
1535: Wayne Rooney almosts plays in Darren Bent with a terrific long ball but England don't have to wait long to come forward again. Fabio Capello's men have got complete control of this game in midfield.
1533: At last, Wales feed Craig Bellamy out on the right but the move breaks down when Aaron Ramsey passes straight to Glen Johnson. Looking on the bright side for Wales, at least they haven't conceded for a few minutes. England look very comfortable.
1532: Wales just cannot get out of their own half, or even keep hold of the ball in their own. Aaron Ramsey and Joe Ledley are the latest Welsh players to give the ball away.
Jamie_Badman on Twitter:
"What's more concerning, Wales' squad or FAW trust in Speed as the long term solution for Brazil qualification? Wrong manager."
Brad_Lindo on Twitter:
"Ashley Young causing problems, Darren Bent scoring, why are they not doing this for Villa every week???"
1530: ... and a sniff for Wayne Rooney, who finds space to meet it with a header. He doesn't get much purchase on it, though, and the chance is gone. For now.
1530: Glen Johnson and Ashley Young are having lots of joy down England's right, where Wales left-back Danny Collins is having a tough time of things. More England pressure, this time after Young forces a corner...
Ex-Wales captain Kevin Ratcliffe on BBC Radio Wales: "Shocking. Wales have got a new manager but there's no difference from the last manager."
1527: Jack Wilshere is coming off for treatment, after picking up a knock. He will be fine, though. Got to say we have not seen much of Aaron Ramsey, the Wales captain and Wilshere's Arsenal team-mate, in the opening stages.
It probably has more to do with the fact that Wales cannot defend to save their lives at the moment...
1524: There is a strange old atmosphere at the Milliennium Stadium, where England are still completely on top. Ashley Young sends over a useful low cross but Wales keeper Wayne Hennessey is down to collect it. The home side are all over the place at the back.
Chief football writer Phil McNulty at the Millennium Stadium:
"England cruising at two up and an awful start for Wales. Fabio Capello's attacking selection is working a treat with Ashley Young involved in both goals. Some Wales fans have just left their seats and headed for the exits - surely not a walk-out just yet?"
1521: Calling this 'one way traffic' does not really do England's domination justice after 20 minutes of the match. Ashley Williams gives the ball away and England attack again, with Wayne Rooney shinning Ashley Young's cross wide.
BBC Wales Sport's David Dulin at the Millennium Stadium: "Oh dear, Wales have a mountain to climb and there is already talk behind me of 'same old story'."
Former Wales midfielder and BBC pundit Robbie Savage: "I think that goal has shown the difference in the quality of the squads. Wales are inexperienced at the back and at this level if you do not defend well then you will get punished. This could be a cricket score."
England goal: The Welsh defence is ripped apart with embarrassing ease. Glen Johnson releases Ashley Young with a clipped ball down the right and his low cross is despatched with glee by Darren Bent, who sweeps it into the roof of the net from six yards out.
1518: GOALFLASH Wales 0-2 England (Bent)
1517: Chris Gunter does well to clear the danger as Wayne Rooney looks to get on the end of a long ball into the box. Worrying times for Wales. Encouraging for England.
Stu_H on Twitter:
"Re England's penalty. Should be interesting discussions on the Aston Villa training pitch next week."
1515: Frank Lampard's goal has already silenced the Wales fans and England are still coming forward, playing some crisp passes as they advance. When Aaron Ramsey does pick the ball up for the Welsh, he is immediately crowded out.
Football League Westy: "The 10 early kick-offs in League One and Two are over - and what a dramatic set of matches they were. Leyton Orient's six-month unbeaten home run came to a crashing end as they lost 5-1 to Yeovil - having played most of the game with 10 men. Shaun MacDonald was Yeovil's hat-trick hero. Colchester were also 5-1 winners at home to Exeter with four goals in 14 second half minutes. Leaders Brighton beat Swindon 2-1, Bournemouth and Charlton drew 2-2 while strugglers Dagenham & Redbridge and Sheffield Wednesday ended up 1-1. In League Two, Wycombe moved up to second with a 3-0 win at Morecambe while Stevenage are now fourth after a thumping 4-0 victory at Macclesfield. Bury dropped to third after having Steven Schumacher sent off in a goalless draw at Port Vale while bottom-placed Stockport beat Southend 2-1 with an injury-time goal and Aldershot drew 1-1 with Accrington. Bradford against Shrewsbury has just kicked off while Barnet entertain Chesterfield .at 1800 GMT."
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "It is a daft penalty to give away, there wasn't a massive coming together but James Collins has clipped the heels of Ashley Young. The referee was in an excellent position and I don't think he had any option."
England goal: The perfect start for England, but a nightmare for Wales. John Terry plays a one-two with Ashley Cole and plays in Ashley Young on the edge of the box. James Collins slips, and then clumsily clips Young's heels, enough to send him tumbling to the turf inside the area. Portuguese referee Olegario Benquerenca does not hesitate before pointing to the spot. Frank Lampard steps up to coolly fire England ahead.
1510: GOALFLASH Wales 0-1 England (Lampard pen)
1509: PENALTY to England
1508: Wales are doing plenty of harrying in midfield but they have not really settled on the ball yet. England? Wayne Rooney just played a delightful crossfield pass for Glen Johnson, but the full-back stumbled on the edge of the box and Wales broke quickly. that looked dangerous, but Craig Bellamy could not really capitalise down the right.
1505: England look like they are lining up in a 4-3-3 formation... or 4-5-1, depending how you look at it. Wales are doing the same. Darren Bent and Steve Morison are the two lone strikers.
1504: England are seeing a lot of the ball in the early stages, well until Craig Bellamy charges in to bulldoze over Ashley Cole anyway. We might see a bit more of that this afternoon.
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "I do not understand booing national anthems. It is like the best pre-match team-talk that you could ever give to your team."
1500: Ah, England fans return the favour, for a little while at least. Steve Morison did have a go at singing along, so fair play to the lad.
1459: The boos from the Welsh fans are almost drowning out Courtenay belting out the English national anthem... now time for Wales...
1457: The players are out on the pitch. Here comes Courtenay. Time to see if her coaching paid off...
1456: Here come Wales, led by Aaron Ramsey. Opposing goalkeepers Joe Hart and Wayne Hennessey embrace - all smiles there.
1456: The England players are in the tunnel at the Millennium Stadium. It is noisy in Cardiff. VERY noisy.
1455: Not long until we hear those anthems. Miss Wales, Courtenay Hamilton, taught the Welsh squad the words to 'Mae Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau' (The Land Of My Fathers) this week so I am expecting them to sing their hearts out. Even Steve Morison, who was born in Enfield.
Former England boss Graham Taylor on BBC Radio 5 live: "The problem for new Wales captain Aaron Ramsey is that he has not yet played enough games to get his own game in order. Having said that, I think boss Gary Speed will have thought long and hard about that."
Football League Westy: "Don't know if Gus Poyet was looking this time (see half-time update) but Gary Dicker, who put Brighton ahead with a first half penalty, has missed a second spot-kick against Swindon so the game is still at 1-1, but Bradley Wright-Phillips has equalised for Charlton to make it 2-2 in their game at Bournemouth. One penalty which has gone in has been scored by Dagenham's Danny Green to equalise at home to Sheffield Wednesday and a potentially crucial goal has also gone in League Two, where bottom-placed Stockport have been unable to hold on to their lead against Southend, who have equalised through Kyle Asante."
BBC Wales Sport's David Dulin at the Millennium Stadium: "Well, the Wales supporters have made it clear who they're not fans of in the England starting line-up as it was read out. No prizes for guessing it was John Terry and Wayne Rooney. Every Wales player had as loud a cheer as Terry and Rooney got boos."
TyroneLewis22 on Twitter:
"Little disappointed the whole "Bale injured" thing wasn't a plan set up by Wales to surprise England."
Maybe Bale is playing... just wearing an Andy King mask?
Mouse7989 on Twitter:
"Re 1429. Derek, Wilshere is from Hitchin, don't insult the lad by saying he's from Stevenage..."
Wales v England line-ups Wales: Hennessey, Gunter, James Collins, Williams, Danny Collins, Bellamy, Crofts, Ramsey, King, Ledley, Morison. Subs: Myhill, Eardley, Gabbidon, Vaughan, Allen, Church, Evans. England: Hart, Johnson, Dawson, Terry, Cole, Lampard, Parker, Wilshere, Young, Bent, Rooney. Subs: Green, Jagielka, Lescott, Milner, Downing, Defoe, Carroll. Referee: Olegario Benquerenca (Portugal)
BBC Wales Sport's David Dulin at the Millennium Stadium: "The pitch is not looking in the greatest shape from up here and according to those pitchside it's quite bumpy. Wales fans will be hoping that will make life more difficult for England. 'Hope' is the word I'm hearing most around the ground from the home supporters."
1439: It's sunny in Cardiff, where we are fast approaching kick-off of today's Euro 2012 qualifier. The two teams have very different prospects in terms of reaching Poland/Ukraine - Wales have next to no hope of making it out of Group G, while England need a win to go level on points with Montenegro at the top - but this will be lively, and no mistake - starting with the national anthems. Bring it on.
1434: Give this page a manual refresh and you will be able to watch Final Score, if you are in the UK. You can also listen to commentary of Wales-England on BBC Radio 5 live and BBC Radio Wales, although it is probably for the best if you don't try to do all three at the same time.
Football League Westy: "More than halfway through the second half in our lunchtime kick-offs in Leagues One and Two. Yeovil's day gets better and better as they go 4-0 up at 10-man Leyton Orient while leaders Brighton and promotion-chasing Bournemouth have each moved 2-1 ahead in their respective games with Swindon and Charlton. Stevenage are matching Yeovil in League Two as they are now four up at Macclesfield while Aldershot have equalised against Accrington. No new goals in any of the other games."
BBC Wales Sport's David Dulin at the Millennium Stadium: "The loss of Gareth Bale has been a big blow to new manager Gary Speed's Wales preparations, but Arsenal midfielder Aaron Ramsey will lead his side for the first time and is likely to start in midfield with Andy King. Andrew Crofts and Joe Ledley could start out wide if Speed opts for a 4-4-2 formation with Craig Bellamy and Steve Morison up front."
1429: The Millennium Stadium is filling up nicely... and is noisy enough now, when it is less than half-full. Should be pretty tasty later. Wales have not exactly shone on home turf recently, though.
tell me they have lost their last three matches there, their longest run of defeats since it was rebuilt and opened in 2000. In total, they have won 11, drawn 11 and lost 13 of 35 international matches at the stadium.
From Derek Jamieson, via text: "Forget the hype about the Arsenal boys - massive Stevenage connections today with ex-Stevenage striker Steve Morison leading the Welsh attack and Stevenage-born Jack Wilshere and Ashley Young driving England to victory. 3-0."
I must admit the Stevenage connection had escaped me. Does it surprise anyone to learn that Derek is from Stevenage too? Thought not...
Jarvo17 on Twitter:
"Gutted for Matt Jarvis not making it on the bench, such a nice lad he deserves it!"
1418: Thoughts on the England line-up, then? A lot of you seem pleased to see Scott Parker start, but a few Wolves fans are upset that Matt Jarvis is not even on the bench.
OptaJoe on Twitter:
"3 - Darren Bent has only attempted three shots on target in his 358 minute England career, but has scored with two of them. Fox."
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "I think Gary Speed will have told his players to press England and make it very difficult. I think Wales are very much reliant on the boost that the full house will give them, but certainly a lot of Wales players will have to perform a lot better than they normally do."
Chief football writer Phil McNulty at the Millennium Stadium:
"England coach Fabio Capello has kept faith with Frank Lampard in midfield alongside Jack Wilshere and Scott Parker, despite suggestions he might be sacrificed against Wales. Interesting to see how a three-pronged attack of Darren Bent, Wayne Rooney and Ashley Young - Capello clearly hoping the pace of the Aston Villa duo will trouble Wales. Big chances for Wilshere and Parker, who is playing his first competitive England game since the 2-0 defeat against Croatia in Zagreb in October 2006."
Mark Lawrenson on BBC Radio 5 live: "I think England's formation is fluid, either a 4-4-2 or a 4-5-1 so I would not worry too much about that. I think five or six of the England players have been in the Champions League this season, whereas the same number of Wales players are at Championship clubs. That says a lot about the disparity between the two teams."
1410: No sign of Gareth Barry or Peter Crouch on the England bench then, or Aaron Lennon. Interesting.
ChrisJack28 on Twitter:
"Finally Scott Parker is starting. He'll provide the defensive foundations that'll give England's attacking players more freedom."
BREAKING WALES TEAM NEWS A bit of a surprise in midfield, as Andrew Crofts of Norwich City is preferred to Blackpool's David Vaughan. Steve Morison starts up front, and Leicester's Andy King (the new David Platt I talked about at 1334) also starts. Their full line-up will be with you very shortly too.
1405: Less than an hour to go until Wales versus England kick-off their Euro 2012 qualifier at the Millennium Stadium. The full England line-up is: Hart, Johnson, Cole, Parker, Dawson, Terry, Lampard, Wilshere, Bent, Rooney, Young. Subs: Green, Jagielka, Lescott, Milner, Downing, Defoe, Carroll.
Football League Westy: "Half-time at our 10 League One and Two games which kicked off at 1300 GMT. Leaders Brighton are being held 1-1 by Swindon at the break where manager Gus Poyet couldn't bear to watch when Gary Dicker converted his side's penalty. It is also 1-1 further along the south coast between Bournemouth and Charlton and also in Colchester's game with Exeter. Shock score of the day is at Leyton Orient who are down to 10 men and also trailing 3-0 to Yeovil thanks to a Shaun MacDonald hat-trick. Meanwhile Sheffield Wednesday are 1-0 up in the battle of the strugglers at Dagenham & Redbridge. In League Two promotion-chasing Wycombe and Stevenage are 3-0 and 2-0 up in their respective games at Morecambe and Macclesfield. Accrington, just outside the play-off zone, are 1-0 up at Aldershot while bottom-placed Stockport lead Southend by the same score. Finally there are no goals in Port Vale's clash with Bury."
BREAKING ENGLAND TEAM NEWS Michael Dawson, Scott Parker, Frank Lampard, Jack Wilshere, Ashley Young and Darren Bent all start. Full line-ups to follow shortly.
kajstring24 on Twitter:
"As a Wolves fan today's game is going to be odd. I'd love Matt Jarvis to score, but against Wayne Hennessey? Arrgghh!"
More from former Wales midfielder and BBC pundit Robbie Savage: "Wales boss Gary Speed has got this aura about him, like former manager Mark Hughes did. He will be calm and calculated - and when he speaks you will listen to him. When he was my captain at Wales I learnt and listened and wanted to run through a brick wall for him, and I am sure now he is manager his players will want to do the same. His appointment has given the whole nation a lift."
1354: Quite an interesting afternoon if you are an Arsenal fan, what with Gunners youngsters Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilshere going toe-to-toe in midfield at the Millennium Stadium. You probably know Ramsey is the new Wales captain too, at the tender age of 20, but did you know he almost became a rugby league player?
You can read David Dulin's excellent profile of Ramsey here.
From Ron in Cardiff, via text: "3-1 to Wales with Bellamy getting a brace."
From Matt in Yeovil, via text: "Swindon going to suprise everyone and win at Brighton. The Reds are staying up!"
chris1ian on Twitter:
"I'd have given Wales half a chance with Gareth Bale playing, but not anymore. Surely England can beat Wales?"
1342: Former Wales midfielder Robbie Savage is on 5 Live at the moment, backing up his belief that Craig Bellamy can expose England captain John Terry's lack of pace if he gets the chance to run at him. "Wales have got a chance, if they play to their maximum and England have an off day - and Welsh goalkeeper Wayne Hennessey plays like Neville Southall."
Football League Westy: "Goals beginning to fly in now with two in three minutes at Dean Court - both from close range. Scott Wagstaff put Charlton ahead but Marc Pugh equalised for Bournemouth. Meanwhile Swindon, whose players are wearing black armbands as a mark of respect for Sian O'Callaghan, have levelled at leaders Brighton through David Prutton and Daniel Nardiello has put Exeter ahead at Colchester. Only two more goals to tell you about in League Two. Mark Roberts has given in-form Stevenage the lead at Macclesfield while Greg Tansey scored from the penalty spot to give bottom-placed Stockport a vital advantage at home to Southend."
1336: If you are in the UK, you can listen to the build-up to the big game in Cardiff on BBC Radio 5 live (give this page a manual refresh if the link isn't already on the top right). Apparently a few fans are already in their seats and there are more England supporters than Wales in the ground at the moment... but that won't last for too much longer.
iamshearer on Twitter:
"Why's everyone so quick to write off Wales? Have people forgotten how atrocious England are 90% of the time?"
1334: So, how can Wales beat England today? Former Welsh international Robbie Savage thinks
recalling Ryan Giggs is their best hope in the absence of Gareth Bale.
That isn't going to happen, though, so I would suggest Aaron Ramsey, Craig Bellamy and Joe Ledley are going to have a big say in whether Wales manage to score today or not. Oh, and watch out for Andy King coming off the bench (probably) later on. King is a goalscoring midfielder in the David Platt mould (when he was a player, not an increasingly chubby coach, obviously) who has shone in the Championship for Leicester this season.
From Steve in Worthing, via text: "99% of me really wants an England win today, but there is 1% of me that wants Wales to win and then Capello get sacked in the morning!! Think we should go with Jarvis and Lennon on the wings, Parker and Wilshere in the middle with Rooney and Carroll up top! Steve from Worthing."
Andy Carroll is NOT starting for England today. Fabio Capello said on Friday that the Liverpool striker is not fit enough.
Football League Westy: "Some early action in League One where Gary Dicker has converted a penalty to give leaders Brighton the lead against Swindon while Leyton Orient's miserable week is continuing at home to Yeovil, where the visitors are 2-0 up. Shaun MacDonald gave Town an early lead with a long-range shot before the O's were reduced to 10 men when Matthew Spring was shown a straight red card for a foul on Andrew Welsh and MacDonald then popped up with his second. And in the relegation battle just down the road, Gary Teale has put Sheffield Wednesday ahead at Dagenham & Redbridge. Meanwhile the only goal in League Two has seen Accrington take the lead at Aldershot through Rory Boulding."
1319: From England's point of view, the build-up to this game has been dominated by talk of boss Fabio Capello's decision to reinstate John Terry as captain, with the latest development coming on Friday when Capello said he regrets failing to personally inform Rio Ferdinand that he had lost the job.
In his blog,
BBC Sport's chief football writer
hopes Capello can draw a line under the saga now, but feels the further questions it has raised over the Italian's man-management style has put him under more pressure to get a positive result today.
OptaJoe on Twitter:
"13 - England have never lost a qualifying match in the month of March, winning 10 and drawing three of their 13 games. Stomp."
WALES v ENGLAND (1500 GMT) Chief football writer Phil McNulty at the Millennium Stadium
reports: "England coach Fabio Capello gets the opportunity to demonstrate he still has a firm grip on events, on the field at least, after the debate surrounding his handling of the decision to reinstate John Terry as captain ahead of Rio Ferdinand overshadowed the build-up to today's Euro 2012 qualifier against Wales in Cardiff. Capello also needs victory to put pressure on Montenegro at the head of Group G - and a big day for Arsenal teenager Jack Wilshere after he was given a crucial role in England's starting line-up."
From Ryan in Northern Ireland, via text: "Last time Wales played England was the weekend before England lost in Northern Ireland. Believe Wales, miracles do happen!"
1302: After a slight delay here and there, those 1300 GMT League One and Two games are now all under way.
1301: "My heart says Wales, my head says England," states Robbie Savage when he is asked on Football Focus who will win today's game. Of the other pundits asked, only
Miss Wales, Courtenay Hamilton,
thought Gary Speed's team would triumph. Lawro and Lee Dixon both went for an England win. By the way, Focus has now finished, so give this page a manual update to get rid of the empty window at the top.
1256: If you were at that game at The Oval, I'd very much like to hear from you. How? Easy.
I'm Chris Bevan,
and you can tweet me at
using the hashtag
please. Now, I know Twitter might be a bit confusing if you were born in Victorian times, so feel free to text me via 81111 (UK) instead. Or send me a telegram.
1252: Scotland are the oldest (footballing) enemy for both these nations but they still have a LOT of history between them. The first England-Wales match took place at The Oval in January 1879, when a young Ryan Giggs made his Welsh debut. Only kidding, obviously Giggs didn't play - it was a friendly after all.
England won that game 2-1,
with Herbert Whitfield and Thomas Sorby getting England's goals, and William Henry Davies replying for Wales. In fact, England have come out on top a total of 64 times in their previous meetings, with Wales winning 14 as well as 21 draws.
Football League Westy: "Some interesting games at the top and bottom of Leagues One and Two today. Out-of-form Bournemouth and Charlton meet at Dean Court while leaders Brighton entertain struggling Swindon. There is also a proverbial six-pointer between Dagenham & Redbridge and Sheffield Wednesday where a win for the Daggers would see them draw level on points with their visitors. All those games kick off at 1300 GMT - as do five of the seven matches in League Two. In the early starts, second-placed Bury travel to Port Vale and third-placed Wycombe go to Morecambe while there is an intriguing late game starting at the unusual time of 1800 GMT in which leaders Chesterfield visit second-from-bottom Barnet, who
reappointed former manager Martin Allen during the week
in a last-ditch bid to avoid relegation from the Football League."
1245: There are also a fair few League One and League Two games going on too, mostly starting at 1300 GMT. Here's Football League Westy to tell us more...
1244: Plenty more qualifiers taking place today too. Armenia-Russia is our only other 1500 GMT kick-off but lots going on later, with 12 other games including Bulgaria versus Switzerland in England and Wales' group (at 1645 GMT) and
the Republic of Ireland against Macedonia
(at 1945 GMT).
They play Brazil in a friendly at the Emirates on Sunday.
1243: A fair few Euro 2012 qualifiers took place on Friday night, notably
Northern Ireland's defeat in Serbia,
which leaves Nigel Worthington's side with a proverbial mountain to climb to get out of Group C.
David Villa helped Spain edge out the Czech Republic, the Netherlands hammered Hungary and Italy saw off Slovenia, with Brazilian-born midfielder Thiago Motta getting the winner.
1236: Wales, as I am sure you are already aware, are without the
injured Gareth Bale
this afternoon, which is a bit of a blow for their boss Gary Speed as he prepares for his first competitive game in charge of his country (I'm not counting the Nations Cup). Some good news for Speed, however, is that there will be one heck of an atmosphere at the Millennium Stadium, which is a 69,000 sell-out. All but 7,500 of those fans will be backing Wales... and they don't half make some noise. Will it make a difference?
Legendary former Welsh striker Ian Rush thinks so.
"We've got to put every little bit of advantage to our favour," he said. "It worked against Italy in 2002 (Wales won 2-1) - the crowd were fantastic and the players responded to that and I expect exactly the same against England."
1233: There is always something a bit special when two home nations meet in qualifying for a major tournament - this is an international derby, so form and reputation will not necessarily count for much. Wales are ranked 116th in the world and have lost all three of their Euro 2012 qualifiers so far, while Fabio Capello's men are ranked sixth and will go top of Group G if they win. Straightforward then? Er, maybe not. England fans only have to look back to
their defeat to Northern Ireland in 2005
as proof that not everything always goes to plan when they take on a neighbour eager to cause an upset.
1230: Wales already look out of the reckoning in the race to reach the Euro 2012 finals, but what would make up for what has been a dreadful qualifying campaign so far? Beating England, of course. And they will get their chance today when the two nations meet for the 100th time.
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