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By Sam Lyon

2200: I call that wrap o'clock. Congrats to West Ham and Arsenal, two London team who can almost smell Wembley glory now, I'm back tomorrow for our other two Carling Cup quarter-finals as well as the semi-final draw - so make sure you join me then. Let's be honest, the Carling Cup has yet to let anyone down this year has it? Bring it on.

2158: WEST HAM 4-0 MAN UTD
Chris Whyatt reports:
"Hard-to-recognise United completely froze in the face of fire from ex-player Jonathan Spector, who made happy Hammers fans forget about shivering Scott Parker on the bench."

Paul Fletcher reports:
"Arsenal weren't were not at their best - but they were a lot better than toothless Wigan. Robin van Persie executed some sublime touches on his first start since August."

2155: Over, then, to Birmingham v Aston Villa and Ipswich v West Brom tomorrow night. And plenty for them to live up to no? You'd have to think this competition is wide open. So where's your money?

oliverhj84 on Twitter: "Not even Vela's performance can dampen Arsenal fans' spirits tonight. Great night for us. Going to bed with a huge smile!"

manutdspecial on 606: "Well done West Ham, no complaints. Not too bothered though as this is mostly a young, inexperienced squad and they will learn from their defeats."

2149: West Ham's Jonathan Spector: "We wanted to work hard and give it a go today. We knew we were the underdogs but we also knew things could go our way if we put the work in. Playing in a new position enabled me to get forward a bit more tonight and it's fantastic to get a couple of goals." And striker Carlton Cole: "I'm looking to improve on my performances, definitely, and this is a start. (New assistant) Wally Downes is having a real impact, he's got us working together as a team, and hopefully this week can prove a real turning point for us this season."

2146: A quite stunning win for West Ham, then, and nothing less than a performance full of commitment and clinical finishing deserved at Upton Park. As for Arsenal, despite rarely getting out of second gear they could have beaten Wigan by a hatful but for some truly poor finishing at times. The Carling Cup continues to deliver, though, doesn't it? Fantastic entertainment.

Full time
2142: FULL-TIME Carlisle 3-1 Sheff Wed

Donal, Glasgow via text: "Surely the Carling Cup is now a chance for Arsenal to finally win some silverware..."

shubbard04 on Twitter: "Fair play to West Ham - fully deserved."

Full time
2140: FULL-TIME Arsenal 2-0 Wigan

2139: FULL-TIME West Ham 4-0 Man Utd

2136: Into added time in both Carling Cup quarter-finals - four minutes at the Emirates, three at Upton Park.

2135: How many chances do Arsenal want to waste this evening? Samir Nasri strolls through an absent Wigan defence and rounds keeper Ali Al Habsi - but his goalbound effort is cleared off the line by the back-tracking Antolin Alcaraz.

2134: Fine reception for Carlton Cole at Upton Park as the two-goal striker is replaced by Junior Stanislas. Despite the freezing conditions, the Hammers fans have every intention of enjoying this one by the sound of things. And who can blame them?

2132: GOALFLASH Carlisle 3-1 Sheff Wed (Purse)

2131: Just over five minutes remaining in our two Carling Cup quarter-finals, and it looks like Arsenal and West Ham will take their place in the last four - the draw for which, by the way, takes place following tomorrow evening's last-eight matches between Birmingham and Aston Villa and Ipswich and West Brom.

2128: Arsenal have had a few penalty appeals for handball in the box tonight - and another one falls on deaf ears. This looks the best shout of the lot, too, as Theo Walcott's goalbound shot looks to have been blocked by a Maynor Figueroa hand but referee Martin Atkinson, once again, is having none of it.

chutneypie on Twitter: "My dad is a die-hard West Ham supporter here in Cairo, however he went to bed as soon as he saw Spector was playing! Haha!"
I think the 'haha' there is a touch harsh. Funny. But harsh.

2125: He's had a night where everything he's touched has turned to goals... but even Victor Obinna can't spank a 35-yard free-kick into the top corner, the Hammers forward's effort flying just over the bar. Decent effort, though.

2123: Another great chance for Arsenal, Theo Walcott this time running through on to Carlos Vela's slide-rule pass but then curling inches past the far post right-footed from inside the box.

2122: West Ham's Zavon Hines receives a warm welcome on his return from a knee injury as he comes on to replace Pablo Barrera.

2120: Snap-shot flashed over the bar by Javier Hernandez, but Man Utd - with 15 minutes left - are surely heading for their first defeat of the season now. Their hopes of a Carling Cup trophy hat-trick slipping away with every passing minute.

2118: And a change for Man Utd too, Jonny Evans (who has been poor, to be fair) replaced by Wes Brown. West Ham, meanwhile, bring Winston Reid on for James Tomkins.

2118: Couple of Arsenal changes - Craig Eastmond for Robin van Persie and Samir Nasri for Jack Wilshere.

2117: More disappointment for Carlos Vela, who sees his first effort from a wide angle saved after Theo Walcott picks him out and, seconds later, he then fails to beat the keeper after a superb through ball from Jack Wilshere plays him through.

2116: GOALFLASH Carlisle 3-0 Sheff Wed (Marshall)

thesmallprint13 on Twitter: "Oh my word... I'll wake up and this will all be a dream...right?"

West Ham goal: No-one could have seen this coming, surely? Victor Obinna - who else? - feeds Carlton Cole in the box, and the England frontman rolls Jonny Evans far too easily before slipping into the corner side-footed from eight yards out.

2112: GOALFLASH West Ham 4-0 Man Utd (Cole)

Arsenal goal: It's hard to see a way back for Wigan now. Robin van Persie feeds Carlos Vela on the right and the Mexican's pinpoint cross is bundled home - just about - on the slide by Nicklas Bendtner at the far post.

2110: GOALFLASH Arsenal 2-0 Wigan (Bendtner)

2110: The white ball has been replaced with a yellow one because of the snow at Upton Park. Will the change of ball lead to a change of fortunes for Man Utd?

2109: GOALFLASH Carlisle 2-0 Sheff Wed (Michalik)

2106: The snow is absolutely tipping it down at Upton Park - and it's arrived in north London now too. Still, despite Charles N'Zogbia looking lively on occasion for Wigan, Arsenal more than comfortable in their 1-0 lead right now.

Histriocity on 606: "Not often I, as a Spurs fan, applauds West Ham but blimmin' well done folks!"

Zain_Patel ion Twitter: "Manchester United are being 'Hammered'."

West Ham goal: It's a goal made by Victor Obinna again and the Hammers are in dreamland. The Nigerian forward, in space on the left, whips a terrific cross into the box and Carlton Cole gets ahead of his marker to nod in his 50th career goal.

2101: GOALFLASH West Ham 3-0 Man Utd (Cole)

2059: Wigan, who have not scored in more than five hours of football at the Emirates, are still not looking at all likely to breach the Gunners' defence here again. The hosts in control.

2056: Moments after Hammers keeper Rob Green is forced into a desperate clearance on the edge of his own box following an error, Darren Fletcher flays over the bar from a half-cleared corner.

2055: Theo Walcott carves out a lovely ball to split the Wigan defence and Robin van Persie should be free - the Dutchman is just lacking a bit of sharpness, however, and Wigan keeper Ali Al Habsi is able to get out and clear.

2053: Bit of purpose about Man Utd at the start of this half at Upton Park, and a driving run from Anderson causes the odd heart flutter in the Hammers defence... until the Brazilian over-runs it.

2052: Robin van Persie, on his first Arsenal start since 28 August... is again on the deck apparently injured. It's not too bad, though, the Dutchman receiving treatment for an accidental whack in the face, and he'll continue.

2050: Under way in both Carling Cup ties.

2050: Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson does make a change, bringing Federico Macheda on for Bebe, but no changes for West Ham nor in the Arsenal-Wigan match.

lloyd_murphy on Twitter: "Man Utd need to bring on Carrick and Macheda to have any hope of salvaging this game. Maybe Park too."

Steve on 606: "IF Arsenal had a player like David Villa we would be the most deadly team in the Premier League by a country mile. We have blown hundreds of chances already this season and yet we are still second top scorers in the league."

Will, Kent via text: "OK, I think West Ham fans SHOULD be okay to start celebrating their goals now... Though I'd still keep half an eye on that assistant referee."

2010matt2010 on Twitter: "Obinna has showed his class for West Ham in the past two games now, was a bit quiet at the start of the season but he is coming through."

Half time
2037: HALF-TIME West Ham 2-0 Man Utd
Chris Whyatt's HT snap-shot:
"Brilliant impressions of London buses, those first ever goals in English football for Jonathan Spector. He hadn't scored for thousands of minutes before tonight..."

Half time
2036: HALF-TIME Arsenal 1-0 Wigan
Paul Fletcher's HT snap-shot:
"Hardly vintage Arsenal but they just about deserve their slender lead. Wigan have just the one player on the pitch who has scored more than once this season in Charles N'Zogbia... and it shows."

2035: And it's time for a break at Upton Park as well.

2034: The half-time whistle brings the first 45 minutes to an end at the Emirates.

2031: The game at the Emirates has completely sparked into life now, and Robin van Persie's flick into the path of Carlos Vela beyond the Wigan defence is delightful - only for the Mexican's first touch to let him down and the chance is gone. Vela has had, and wasted, quite a few chances this half.

2030: At Upton Park, Hammers keeper Robert Green has to push the ball away from under his own bar as Fabio cross deflects viciously off Luis Boa Morte, who pole-axed the Brazilian in the process. Close shave.

2029: Another penalty appeal for Arsenal as Theo Walcott's cross strikes James McArthur on the hand - but the referee again rules it was a case of ball-to-hand. As with the first, you've seen them given.

2028: Almost immediate redemption for Antolin Alcaraz as he rises to meet a Wigan corner but his header is just about scrambled over the Arsenal bar by a combination of Arsenal keeper Wojciech Szczesny and his defence.

Arsenal goal: It's fortunate, but the hosts lead. Theo Walcott's whipped corner is a nice one and Antolin Alcaraz loses his positioning before heading past his own keeper six yards out.

2027: GOALFLASH Arsenal 1-0 Wigan (Alcaraz og)

2025: Penalty shout for Arsenal against Wigan, the ball floated into the box and striking Wigan defender Maynor Figueroa - perhaps a touch unsighted - on the arm. Robin van Persie fervently appeals for the spot-kick, but Martin Atkinson is having none of it.

West Ham goal: The decision to play him in midfield is really paying off. Victor Obinna again causes problems in the Man Utd box, allowing Jonathan Spector to latch on to the loose ball, take a touch and slam in at the near post. The holders on the ropes here.

2023: GOALFLASH West Ham 2-0 Man Utd (Spector)

2022: Off goes Victor Moses - on the stretcher, with oxygen being taken by the Wigan man, with Charles N'Zogbia being prepared to replace him.

2020: Lot of concern for Wigan forward Victor Moses, who looks in real pain on the floor at the Emirates. The challenge on him by Theo Walcott looked innocuous enough, but has he fallen awkwardly? Either way it looks certain that he'll have to be replaced, which is a shame because he was having a good game up until that.

2017: Blimey, that James (O')Shea gets everywhere doesn't he? I of course meant John O'Shea at 2014 haha. Corrected. Oops.

2016: Wigan continuing to buzz about Arsenal and as a result the hosts are looking far from comfortable on the ball. That earlier Carlos Vela chance aside, bit bereft of chances so far, though.

2015: GOALFLASH Carlisle 1-0 Sheff Wed (Zoko)

2014: I think it's fair to say he's not received rave reviews over on 606 so far - and John O'Shea has just had a 'shot' on goal that actually went backwards. I'm saying nothing.

2012: Over at the Emirates, Arsenal should be ahead. Robin van Persie's delightful pass sets Carlos Vela through on goal but while the Mexican's clipped finish beats the keeper, it also beats the Wigan upright as it drifts wide. Before that Arsenal hadn't created a great deal against a Wigan side looking fairly comfortable. Still 0-0 as it stands, though.

West Ham goal: Hammers fans may well feel justice has been done - because this one counts. It's a first goal in English football, and against his old club, for Jonathan Spector - the makeshift midfielder heading Victor Obinna's cross home expertly.

2008: GOALFLASH West Ham 1-0 Man Utd (Spector)
This one definitely counts.

2006: West Ham, unsurprisingly, are still fuming and manager Avram Grant is given a stern talking to after he petulantly throws the ball away when it goes out of play. It did take linesman Mike Bull a ridiculously long time to raise his flag for that one, for me. I repeat, though, with hindsight it looks a good decision.

2004: West Ham are celebrating for a full minute before referee Mark Clattenburg sees the linesman's flag is raised. And, I tell you what, it looks a fine decision. Victor Obinna, on the break, slams home from 20 yards via a huge deflection - and the deflection is off team-mate Jonathan Spector, who was clearly offside. Remarkable.

2003: DISALLOWED GOAL West Ham 0-0 Man Utd

2002: GOALFLASH West Ham 1-0 Man Utd (Obinna)

2001: United continuing to enjoy the freedom of Upton Park, with West Ham backing off and letting Sir Alex Ferguson's men have the ball as they please...

MohamudWarsame on 606: "This has the looks of a dangerous match for Arsenal. The crowd are flat. The team are making clumsy passes. No spark, no chemistry, no aggression."

1957: Another fine chance for Wigan at Arsenal, Emmanuel Eboue this time leaving a backpass woefully short and Mauro Boselli has a clear run on goal. The striker's first touch is dire, though, and he sends himself too wide, forcing him to turn back and look for support... which isn't there. Let-off for the Gunners.

1955: Chance for Wigan at the Emirates now, as Victor Moses turns Emmanuel Eboue inside and out inside the Arsenal box only to fire his effort from the angle against the side netting. Back at Upton Park, Gabriel Obertan goes for goal from the tight angle on the left rather than cross and the Hammers can breathe again. Again. United taking charge there.

Someone has struck the woodwork
1952: What a save that is. Rob Green - take a bow. Some fine Bebe work down the right leads to Gabriel Obertan working some space in the Hammers box and his low finish from 12 yards looks certain for the bottom corner - until Green gets down superbly to tip it on to the post before James Tomkins clears.

1949: Lively start in freezing conditions at Upton Park, where West Ham are enjoying plenty of the ball early doors. No snoods on show by the look of things, and a fair few short sleeves being worn. Blimey. Sir Alex Ferguson, meanwhile, is wrapped up like a 6ft silkworm. He aint getting cold for no man. Good show, Sir Alex, good show.

1948: Samir Nasri is on the bench for Arsenal. Sorted.

1946: Erm, why's he not just headed that in? Nicklas Bendtner is completely unmarked as Robin van Persie's free-kick floats into the Wigan area, but the Arsenal striker completely misses the ball six yards out. Did he have his eyes closed?

1946: And we're now under way at Upton Park.

1945: Nice and prompt start at the Emirates, where it's starting to fill up... a bit...

RafaelDaGold on 606: "What's with all the Bebe and Obertan hating? Both very good prospects, under-21 Internationals for their countries."

Lee, Swinton via text: "A shout out to the 1500 Sheffield Wednesday fans that have trekked to Carlisle perhaps?"
Can I get a 'whoop-whoop'?! I, erm, can't pull that off... sorry.

1941: It's snowing at Upton Park... but not at the Emirates. Tis packed in the former... less so in the latter. Made of hardy stuff in East London, I tell ya. Snood count to follow.

Asif_football on Twitter: "If it wasn't for the price tag, Macheda would have started ahead of Bebe."

Darren on 606: "Shall we have a competition to guess the amount of "Snoods" on show in total in both Carling Cup matches."

Paul Fletcher reports:
"It has not exactly been plain sailing for Arsenal at the Emirates recently after back-to-back home defeats against Newcastle and Tottenham but they will be looking to put that right against a Wigan side that has scored just once in five visits to the Gunners new stadium while conceding 12 goals."

Chris Whyatt reports:
"Confused pandemonium could envelop Green Street should bottom-of the-Premier League West Ham topple top-of-the-Premier League Manchester United. On one [woolly-gloved] hand, they'll have booked a first League Cup semi-final for 20 years by knocking the two-time reigning Carling Cup champions out cold. But, on the other, they're only playing Sir Alex Ferguson's experimental second-string - and will remain in deep relegation trouble. Can victory over a team they rarely beat persuade fans that Avram Grant can save them? The alternative certainly won't…"

Collin, Simek, Michalik, Chester, Cruise, Berrett, Thirlwell, Taiwo, Marshall, Madine, Zoko. Subs: Caig, Hurst, Robson, Curran, Eastham.
Sheff Wed: Weaver, Spurr, Purse, Beevers, Jones, Sedgwick, Miller, Potter, Johnson, Morrison, Mellor. Subs: Jameson, Hinds, Heffernan, Coke, O'Connor.
Referee: David Webb (County Durham)

Moon on 606: "Do people still rate Obertan??? I just can't see it..."

Sakaria2 on 606: "West Ham's two best performers on the weekend Parker and Piquionne are on the bench, and I'd suspect them to come on to find them a goal in the second half. I think West Ham could nick this one you know."

1932: A few of you pointing out - quite rightly haha - that James Shea appears twice on the Arsenal bench below in the team lists provided to us by the Press Association. Now, the official Arsenal website says Samir Nasri is the seventh name on the Gunners bench, but some are rumouring the Frenchman has been withdrawn for some reason. I'll keep you posted either way folks.

1930: There's plenty of Carling Cup pedigree on show tonight, by the way. For Arsenal, this is the eighth successive season they've reached the quarter-finals of this competition, while 2006 finalists Wigan are featuring in their 100th match in the League Cup. West Ham, runners-up in 1966 and 1981, are looking an eighth League Cup appearance since 1989/90, while Man Utd have lifted this trophy three times in five seasons including the last two. And they used to say this competition had lost its appeal didn't they? Well not this season, na-uh sister *snaps fingers either side of face*.

sh263 on Twitter: "If you get picked to play tonight in the freezing cold, it really is a punishment for not being in the first team!"

Paul Fletcher reports:
"Arsenal make nine changes from the team that won at Aston Villa in the Premier League, with only Laurent Koscielny and Jack Wilshere keeping their places. Wigan take a less radical approach but they nonetheless make five changes from the side defeated lost 3-1 at West Ham, with Antolin Alcaraz, James McArthur, Ben Watson, Mauro Boselli and Victor Moses brought in by boss Roberto Martinez."

Chris Whyatt reports:
"Quite a few changes for West Ham from the team which beat Wigan this weekend. Captain fantastic Scott Parker is on the bench, as Radoslav Kovac takes his place. Julian Faubert, Tal Ben Haim and Jonathan Spector also play. Carlton Cole starts up front in place of Frederic Piquionne. Only Brazilian midfielder Anderson retains his Manchester United place as Sir Alex Ferguson's makes 10 changes from the team which walloped Blackburn 7-1 on Saturday. Slight surprise that veteran Welsh wizard Ryan Giggs starts, but he needs some minutes after a recent spell out with injury. Another chance for Gabriel Obertan and Bebe to impress."

PJS192 on 606: "I expect Arsenal to line up in a 4-4-2 formation, with Vela and Walcott taking the wings. I expect Van Persie to drop deep at some times if need be. We need to be careful though, Gibbs and Eboue like to bomb forward at times so we might be left quite light at the back. Should be a cracking game!"

1920: Fans of a more aural take on football commentary will be delighted to hear I can bring you links to both Carling Cup quarter-finals tonight on the right-hand side, if you give this page a refresh.

AndygoesdowntoC on Twitter: "All this moaning about snow everywhere. In Finland we just get on with it. Every day's like the training montage in Rocky IV."
The market leader in all film training montages and no mistake.

Szczesny, Eboue, Koscielny, Djourou, Gibbs, Walcott, Denilson, Wilshere, Vela, Bendtner, van Persie. Subs: James Shea, James Shea, Sagna, Arshavin, Eastmond, Emmanuel-Thomas, Nordtveit.
Wigan: Al Habsi, Gohouri, Steven Caldwell, Alcaraz, Stam, McArthur, Thomas, Watson, Figueroa, Boselli, Moses. Subs: Pollitt, Di Santo, N'Zogbia, Gomez, Diame, McManaman, Mustoe.
Referee: Martin Atkinson (W Yorkshire)

Anon via text: "Time for you to uphold your title of goal king Sam!"
Oh geeze... no pressure haha.

the_serbian_legend on 606: "United to struggle against a determined, experience Hammers side. Arsenal to smash Wigan."

West Ham:
Green, Faubert, Tomkins, Upson, Ben-Haim, Barrera, Kovac, Spector, Boa Morte, Cole, Obinna. Subs: Boffin, Reid, Parker, McCarthy, Stanislas, Hines, Piquionne.
Man Utd: Kuszczak, O'Shea, Smalling, Evans, Fabio Da Silva, Obertan, Fletcher, Anderson, Giggs, Hernandez, Bebe. Subs: Amos, Brown, Park, Carrick, Rafael Da Silva, Macheda, Eikrem.
Referee: Mark Clattenburg (Tyne & Wear)

1911: So what to expect tonight, people? Well here's our schedule...
Carling Cup q/f: Arsenal v Wigan
Carling Cup q/f: West Ham v Man Utd
JPT northern s/f: Carlisle v Sheff Wed
And don't forget all three matches will be resolved tonight - the Carling Cup ties after 90 minutes, extra-time and penalties, if needed, and the JPT after 90 minutes and penalties. Jubbly.

The Adventures on 606: "Arsenal's team tonight is crazy."

Robin van Persie returns for Arsenal following injury in what is a very attacking Gunners side against Wigan. Ryan Giggs, Javier Hernandez and Bebe, meanwhile, all start for Man Utd at West Ham, who make six changes from the team that won at the weekend.

Bobby Laticus Martinez on 606: "The weather may be cold but i hope the emirates entertains a hot game tonight!"

1905: You all know how this bad boy works. Tweet me @sampatricklyon, get chatting over on 606, or text me via 81111 and let's get this puppy cooking. Lovely.

1904: Yep, the snow has arrived by the bucketload - and football fixtures are being wiped off faster than a rash of Movember moustaches this evening. (Except by that one bloke in the office who thinks he actually looks good with a 'tache, obviously. There's always one. And he's normally always a bit of a wrong 'un.) Still, a hardy few matches have survived the cold snap and will forge on regardless - so who fancies getting involved in a spot of Tuesday football?

1902: What do you mean it doesn't scan properly? Oh I see... everyone's a critic aren't they. I don't know, you pour your heart into some lyrics and people just jump in and give it a shoeing. Whatever.

1900: "Oh the weather outside is frightful,
But the fire is so delightful,
And since we've no place to go,
Might as well stay across the first two of four Carling Cup quarter-finals with Sam Lyon's BBC text"

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