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Tuesday football as it happened

GOALFLASHES AND MAJOR INCIDENTS (all times GMT)

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By Jonathan Stevenson

2215: On that bombshell, it's time to go. Congrats to Arsenal, commiserations to Liverpool and Rangers. If you love live sport more than your own life, you might want to know that Roger Federer and Andy Murray are having a right old ding-dong in the ATP World Tour Finals at London's O2 Arena. I'll see you tomorrow. Be good.

2212: Before I go, I found a positive text for Rafa. Though the sender did choose to remain anonymous: "Every Liverpool fan blaming Rafa Benitez is an idiot. Why can't you see the good he's done for us, like last season? You just focus on a small bad part this season that we have had, but we will finish fourth or higher, believe me on that. If you're all so good, why aren't you in the Liverpool manager's seat?"

2209: And here's Football League Macca Part II: "Bournemouth were held goalless at home by Daggers, helping Rochdale, who were 2-1 winners over Notts County, and Rotherham, 2-0 victors at home to Lincoln, to close the gap at the top of League Two. There was more misery at the foot of the table as basement club Darlington were clubbed 4-0 at home to Morecambe and Grimsby lost 3-0 at home to Bradford."

2208: Worth waiting for, I think you'll agree. Here's Football League Macca Part I: "So the cream of Europe (well, a decent portion of it) manages just nine goals all evening. Shame on you Euros. MK Dons and Carlisle scored seven between them, with Carlisle climbing up to 17th with a dramatic 4-3 win. Charlton and Bristol Rovers also got amongst the goals, the Addicks collecting a 4-2 win. But they couldn't close the gap on Leeds, who had Max Gradel to thank for an 89th-minute winner at home to Leyton Orient."

From henrywinter on Twitter: "In presser with Rafa in Budapest, who says Liverpool are 'not worse' than Fiorentina and Lyon, who have qualified."


2203: I'm afraid there aren't that many missives coming in supporting Rafael Benitez and his team. For some reason, quite a lot of Manchester United and Everton fans seem to think he's doing a good job, though.

From Gary, London, via text on 81111: "Rafa - Spurs or Villa for fourth place. Then you will get your p45 and Guus Hiddink will take your place, you clown."

From joebaia on 606: "I'm sure Rafa's confidence about finishing in the top four has filled every Liverpool fan with confidence! How this man is still in a job is beyond me. He has to be THE most negative manager currently working in the Premier League."

From elldorado89 on Twitter: "Just stuck a fiver on Liverpool to win Europa League. Good to feel confident about us for once! I have a good feeling..."

2154: But first, Rangers manager Walter Smith: "We didn't handle the situation as well as we could have done. When chances come along you have to take them. We haven't been good enough in our home matches, the expectation is on us to come forward and attack and we haven't been good enough to do that."

2152: Now then, let's get some of your reaction...

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez: "I am 100% confident we will finish in the top four in the Premier League this season."

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard: "The disappointing thing was having to rely on other people. We have played well today but now we have to try and move on, build on tonight and, with a lot of players coming back from injury, try and win the Europa League. Of course its disappointing. The Champions League is the main trophy at the start of the season but the only consolation now is to try and win the Europa League."

BBC Sport's Phil McNulty at the Emirates: "Arsenal eased off after the break but never looked in danger of conceding the lead they established in the first half. Impressive group stage performance from the Gunners - now can they go one step further than last year? Bit of an injury concern over Kieran Gibbs, who limped off right at the end. Hopefully this very promising youngster will be OK."

2144: Round-up of the other Champions League results: AZ Alkmaar 0-0 Olympiakos; Barcelona 2-0 Inter Milan; Fiorentina 1-0 Lyon; Unirea Urziceni 1-0 Sevilla.

2142: Arsenal, meanwhile, have qualified for the last 16 for the seventh season in a row. Rangers, however, will not even have the Europa League to fall back on after their abject 2-0 home defeat at the hands of Stuttgart.

Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard: "You get what you deserve in football."

2139: Steven Gerrard walks away from the television, looking very, very down. After Christmas, Liverpool will be playing in the Uefa Europa League.

2139: LIVERPOOL ARE OUT OF THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

2138: Thirty seconds left in Florence...

2137: Full-time Arsenal 2-0 Standard Liege

2136: Sebastien Frey pulls off another fine save to deny Lyon, while the Liverpool players huddle round a telly in the bowls of the Ferenc Puskas Stadium in Budapest in agony.

2136: Into three minutes of injury time at the Artemio Franchi. Fiorentina 1-0 Lyon. Half of Merseyside on tenterhooks.

2134: There is one minute left of normal time in the Fiorentina v Lyon match. Unless Lyon score, Liverpool are out of the Champions League.

2133: Full-time Rangers 0-2 Stuttgart

2133: Full-time Debrecen 0-1 Liverpool

2132: My word, Lyon couldn't have got much closer. Sebastien Frey makes a brilliant low save for Fiorentina, while Pepe Reina pulls off a top-class stop in Hungary.

2131: Rangers are struggling to keep the score at 2-0. Allan McGregor pulls off another fine save late in the game for the sixth time this evening. The Rangers fans are already heading out of the stadium with their heads hung low.

Red card
2129: SENDING OFF (Mehdi Carcela-Gonzalez)
The Standard player is given his marching orders for leaning his head into Cesc Fabregas after a tussle by the touchline.

2128: Dangerous ball from the Lyon right from Cesar Delgado nearly provides a goal for the French team.

Someone has struck the woodwork
2126: Standard go so close at the Emirates as Zoro Gohi-Bi slams a right-foot shot against the base of the post from 18 yards.

2125: Into the final stages now. Liverpool lead in Hungary 1-0 against Debrecen, but it's not enough to keep them in the Champions League because Fiorentina are beating Lyon 1-0. Rangers are 2-0 down at home to Stuttgart, which, together with Unirea leading Sevilla 1-0, means they are out of Europe.

2123: I've done it again, haven't I? Might as well mention the 'Goal Repeller' tag before any of you lot do. Sorry. Really sorry.

2121: Gergely Rudolf hits a sizzling cross-cum-shot in Budapest that Pepe Reina has to be alert to push away from goal - that could have caused some embarrassment.

From Matt_Utd_FC on 606: "I sense a late goal for Lyon. And Debrecen..."

2118: Jamie Carragher heads a Liverpool corner wide. Maybe he'll play up front? At Rangers, Stuttgart hit the post.

2116: Yossi Benayoun comes on for David Ngog for Liverpool. Let's play spot the striker...

2114: Also as it stands, Rangers will not even have the chance to play in the Europa League, with Unirea Urziceni leading Sevilla. Alberto Gilardino misses a very presentable chance for Fiorentina against Lyon.

2112: Only one second-half goal in the Champions League so far, but Lyon have just thrown striker Lisandro into the mix at Fiorentina.

From jackfaulkner on Twitter: "I'm gutted about Lucky the sheep. I'll miss ewe."

2108: Marco Marchionni looks like putting Fiorentina 2-0 up, but just as he is in the process of pulling the trigger, Aly Cissokho gets in a magnificent last-ditch block. Lifeline for Liverpool.

2107: Not much going on in Florence right now. Lyon are doing better than they did in the first half, but it's not enough for Liverpool. Without a goal from the French team, they are out of the Champions League.

BBC Sport's Phil McNulty at the Emirates: "Great reception at the Emirates as Arsenal send on Theo Walcott for the last half-hour, replacing the outstanding Samir Nasri. Arsenal not as emphatically in control this half, but you sense this is job done barring a catastrophe."

2103: Liverpool's Lucas gets up well to connect with Dirk Kuyt's right-wing cross, but he heads tamely wide. Not good enough.

2102: Carlos Vela turns his man brilliantly inside the Standard box but gets his left-foot shot horribly wrong, the Mexican having to laugh at his total mis-kick. Moments later, Theo Walcott comes on for Samir Nasri.

2100: Chance for Liverpool, with Steven Gerrard's snap-shot from 12 yards well kept out by Debrecen keeper Vukasin Poleksic. The Reds must have had nearly 70% possession.

Goooooooaaaaaaaaal
Stuttgart goal: You fear that's it for the Scottish team. Sebastian Rudy, the scorer of the first, whips in a great cross from the right and Zdravko Kuzmanovic shows Kris Boyd how to do it by heading home from 10 yards.

2059: GOAL Rangers 0-2 Stuttgart

2058: At the O2 Arena in London, Britain's Andy Murray is about to take on Roger Federer, the greatest tennis player of all time, at the ATP World Tour Finals. Just thought I'd say.

From Jamie in Cardiff, via text on 81111: "Stevo I always text in but it never gets shown. Just wanted to voice my disappointment at no Aquilani again. Hiddink to take the reins."

BBC Scotland pundit Craig Paterson at Ibrox: "Walter Smith needs to have a look at the bench. The second half hasn't started the way the first half ended. Stuttgart are playing in Rangers' half, and Rangers keep giving the ball to the Germans. Smith needs to change things around."

2053: Lyon's precocious teenager Miralem Pjanic hits a right-foot shot wide from about 20 yards against Fiorentina. Where there's life, there's hope.

2052: Probably should have told you this by now, but Arsenal only need a point tonight to qualify for the last 16. They are cruising through.

From Liverpool110 on 606: "Lucas is about as useful as an appendix."

2048: They are getting back under way in tonight's other Champions League games, with the players presumably still reeling from the news that Lucky, the world's oldest sheep, has died aged 23. Well, you can only wrap them in cotton wool for so long.

2045: Blimey, they're back under way in Hungary. Good timekeeping.

2044: Football League Macca II: "In the battle at the top, leaders Bournemouth are being held by Dagenham & Redbridge. Rochdale, who could go top if they win and the Cherries lose, grabbed two goals in the five minutes before the break to go 2-1 in front against Notts County. Adam Le Fondre's 13th goal of the season has put Rotherham in front against Lincoln, while Chesterfield are being held at Bury and Shrewsbury trail 2-1 at Hereford."

2042: So, other half-times in the Champions League: AZ 0-0 Olympiakos; Barcelona 2-0 Inter Milan; Fiorentina 1-0 Lyon; Unirea Urziceni 1-0 Sevilla. As it stands, Liverpool are out of the Champions League and Rangers are out of Europe altogether.

2039: Football League Macca: "League One leaders Leeds are being held goalless at home to Leyton Orient and Charlton are primed to take advantage of any slip-up as they are 2-1 up at home to Bristol Rovers, who grabbed one back just before the break. MK Dons were 3-0 behind after just 20 minutes but have pulled it back to 2-3 in a crazy old game at Stadium:MK, while high-flying Huddersfield were also trailing but are 1-1 at the interval and Colchester and Norwich are both ahead. Bottom side Tranmere are beating Southend 1-0."

From lostmertonian on Twitter: "Barca trouncing Inter at the moment: Xavi running the show. Henry has already dived in the area twice. No shame, some ppl."

BBC Sport's Phil McNulty at the Emirates: "Game very much over at the Emirates surely after that strike from Denilson doubled their lead against Standard Liege. Standard keeper Sinan Bolat looked a bit of a chump as he waved it on its way into the roof of the net, but it did swerve viciously from 30 yards. Arsenal, despite the odd scare, have been in total control here and it's wonderful to watch."

2033: Half-time Arsenal 2-0 Standard Liege

Goooooooaaaaaaaaal
Arsenal goal: It's almost certain that Denilson has never heard of Andrew Flintoff, but that ball swung both ways. The Brazilian hits a sizzler from 35 yards but it goes one way and then very, very late goes in the other direction, completely bamboozling Sinan Bolat. He should still save it, but that was crazy.

2032: GOAL Arsenal 2-0 Standard Liege

2031: Remarkable news from Rangers' group - Unirea Urziceni have taken a 1-0 lead at home to Sevilla thanks to Ivica Dragutinovic's own goal.

2030: Half-time Debrecen 0-1 Liverpool

2030: Half-time Rangers 0-1 Stuttgart

2028: Andrey Arshavin picks out Cesc Fabregas and his low shot just misses the far post from about 15 yards out. Still 1-0 to Arsenal.

From Marc S, via text on 81111: "A 'Thierry Henry' chant at the Emirates ended very quickly. Maybe because there's a fairly large Irish element of Gooners, but mainly cos few here wanted to join in."

2024: Andrey Arshavin fires in from a Samir Nasri pass, but his 20-yard shot is millimetres wide of Standard's left-hand post. Moments later, Reginal Goreux's appeal for a penalty from William Gallas's tackle is turned down.

2023: Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard tees up David Ngog 20 yards out and the Frenchman's curling, goalbound shot is parried away by Vukasin Poleksic.

2022: Kris Boyd heads Kenny Miller's cross six feet over the bar from just six yards out. All he had to do was pick his slot and he passed up a golden opportunity to level the scores for Rangers.

Goooooooaaaaaaaaal
Arsenal goal: Arsenal are playing with 10 men as Andrey Arshavin continues to receive treatment, but you don't need the full quota when you're gifted goals like that. Thomas Vermaelen lofts a long ball from the back and Landry Mulemo falls over, allowing Samir Nasri to run into the box and fire past Sinan Bolat. Arshavin promptly returns.

2020: GOAL Arsenal 1-0 Standard Liege

2018: Rangers striker Kris Boyd fires in a powerful drive from the edge of the penalty area that flies just past Jens Lehmann's right-hand post.

2018: Gergely Rudolf gets his head on to a cross from the Debrecen right, but he can only nod off target. First chance of any note for the Hungarians. Liverpool still lead 1-0.

2016: Andrey Arshavin and William Gallas clash heads at the Emirates and they both need treatment - the Russian is covered in claret. Nasty moments, let's hope they are OK.

2014: Barcelona are proving they are not a one-man team tonight - they lead Inter Milan 2-0 after half an hour as the increasingly influential Pedro bags. That with both Lionel Messi and Zlatan Ibrahimovic on the bench.

2013: Uh-oh. As things stand, Liverpool are out of the Champions League. Juan Vargas slams Fiorentina into the lead against Lyon from the penalty spot after Marco Marchionni is fouled. BBC Radio 5 live just described that as "sickening" for Liverpool.

2012: Fiorentina have a penalty.

From pp0u20e8 on 606: "As an Arsenal fan, I really do wish Eboue would stay on his feet. He's a good player and he's got a good striking foot - why fall over like that?"

BBC Scotland pundit Craig Paterson at Ibrox: "Rangers need to get scrappy, get close to Stuttgart and force them off their game. If they can do that, they'll upset their flow and you never know what will happen."

Someone has struck the woodwork
2008: More woodwork action at Arsenal, this time at the other end. Dieudonne Mbokani cuts in from the left and hits a sizzling right-foot drive that slams against Manuel Almunia's left-hand upright. Would have been a belter.

2005: The boy who cried wolf... Emmanuel Eboue goes down under a challenge from a Standard player at the Emirates and wants a penalty, but referee Konrad Plautz waves him away.

BBC Sport's Phil McNulty at the Emirates: "Arsenal dominating totally here and Standard Liege have somehow survived the mother and father of all goalmouth scrambles as Thomas Vermaelen is denied by a miraculous goal-line clearance. From Andrey Arshavin. The usual patient build-up from Arsenal just needs that final flourish. Best thing about Standard Liege so far is their supporters."

Someone has struck the woodwork
2002: Goalmouth mayhem at the Emirates. First Andrey Arshavin's point-blank header from a corner is saved, then Carlos Vela rattles the follow-up onto the post. With the ball fizzing around like a pinball, Thomas Vermaelen and William Gallas both see shots blocked before the ball is cleared to safety.

2002: Stuttgart have the ball in the Rangers net again but it is ruled out for offside against Matthieu Delpierre - who didn't even touch it. Lucky for Rangers.

Goooooooaaaaaaaaal
Stuttgart goal: Not what the Scottish champions needed. Alex Hleb plays a one-two and then has too much time to get his cross in from the left, it eventually falls for Sebastian Rudy at the far post to slide in.

2000: GOAL Rangers 0-1 Stuttgart

1959: Squeaky bottoms for Liverpool fans as the post denies Fiorentina twice in 30 seconds. Mario Santana's superb 18-yard volley clatters the left-hand post before Alberto Gilardino's glancing header spins off the opposite upright from the following corner.

BBC Scotland pundit Craig Paterson at Ibrox: "There are far too many Rangers players switching off. Rangers are making it far too easy for Stuttgart, they need to get themselves a foothold in this match."

1957: Big moment at the Camp Nou as Barcelona take the lead against Inter Milan thanks to Gerard Pique's 10th-minute goal.

1956: Stuttgart have made the much better start at Ibrox and their Brazilian-born forward Cacau tests Allan McGregor with a fine long-range strike that the keeper turns around the post.

1955: Steven Gerrard crosses from the right and Dirk Kuyt falls over inside the Debrecen box as he tries to head on target. Might have been better volleying it, the Dutchman.

1953: There is a way Liverpool could change the permutations - if they win 4-0 tonight and Fiorentina draw, they would only need to beat the team from Florence 2-0 at Anfield in two weeks, not 3-0. On current evidence, 4-0 isn't beyond them - Debrecen are useless.

1952: Nothing happening at Fiorentina-Lyon so far, while at the Emirates it's all Arsenal but a couple of half-chances for Cesc Fabregas apart, no opportunities.

Goooooooaaaaaaaaal
Liverpool goal: Shocking defending, but if you support Liverpool, who cares? Fabio Aurelio swings over a ball from the right, Jamie Carragher heads it back across goal and David Ngog reacts quickest to poke it in from a few yards out. Perfect start - over to you, Lyon.

1948: GOAL Debrecen 0-1 Liverpool

1945: Under way in the Champions League tonight.

1944: The players are out, the Champions League anthem is being played (Cheesy's favourite) and we're about ready to rock.

1942: Liverpool need a miracle to reach the knockout stages for the seventh successive season. But defender Jamie Carragher believes: "We always believe at this club that we can do special things. We've done it before and can do it again." Don't bet against them

BBC Sport's Phil McNulty at the Emirates: "Wonderfully exuberant and noisy group of fans following Standard Liege. One Belgian supporter was in splendid form on the tube, despite displaying very clear claret-coloured evidence that his nose had made meaningful contact with an extremely solid object only minutes previously. Arsene Wenger has just given his thoughts on the big screens at the Emirates. He is keen to get Saturday's defeat at Sunderland out of Arsenal's system at the earliest opportunity."

From astrollinthesunshine on 606: "I think the only scenario in which Rafa leaves/is sacked is if Liverpool finish outside the top four. However, Guus Hiddink is unemployed at the moment..."

1935: Here is some chat on the Lyon team: The French side have named a relatively strong side in Florence, making three changes from the team that drew 1-1 with Liverpool at Anfield three weeks ago. Former Newcastle defender Jean-Alain Boumsong slots in at centre-back alongside Aly Cissokho, Lamine Gassama replaces full-back Antoine Reveillere while striker Sidney Govou starts up front.

Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez: "It's a good thing Lyon are playing their strongest side, sure. The main thing is for us to win the game, we cannot have any influence on what happens in Florence. It's difficult to say what our chances are."

1930: There are 23 games in League One and League Two tonight, let us not forget, and Football League Macca will be keeping us updated as the evening wears on.

1928: The big news from Rangers is that Madjid Bougherra has been dropped to the bench, meaning 17-year-old Danny Wilson will partner David Weir in central defence from the start. Kyle Lafferty comes in for Steven Naismith as the only change to the side that beat Kilmarnock on Saturday - and Kris Boyd, the Ibrox club's top goalscorer, makes his first ever Champions League group stage start for Rangers.

From DBTheTruth (yep, Darren Bent) on Twitter: "I think it's Inter Milan v Barcelona tonight for me. What game are people watching?"

1923: This just in from our Scottish correspondent: "Reports coming out of Ibrox appeared to suggest that trouble had broken out between the police and Stuttgart fans outside the underground station near the stadium. However, Strathclyde Passenger Transport has confirmed to the BBC that the reports are inaccurate. Some Stuttgart fans were denied access to the underground station for being rowdy and have walked to Ibrox without any trouble instead."

1921: So, full-time in Russia and it's Rubin Kazan 0-0 Dynamo Kiev. Inter and Rubin have six points in Group F, Barca and Dynamo have five. Barca v Inter - with Lionel Messi and Zlatan Ibrahimovic on the hosts' bench - coming up.

From Anthony Fazakerley, via text on 81111: "You get the feeling as a Liverpool fan that we could be on the brink of something good when our backs are against the wall."

1915: This is one of the greatest child-related stories football has thrown up in recent times: After his team beat the holders 2-1, Rubin Kazan captain Sergey Semak named his newly-born daughter Barcelona. "This is a nice way to make sure I never forget that memorable win. Additionally, it's a bit of a tribute to the beautiful football they play," said the 33-year-old legend. Still 0-0 in Kazan, couple of minutes left.

1911: Rangers v Stuttgart line-ups:
Rangers:
McGregor, McCulloch, Weir, Wilson, Whittaker, Davis, Thomson, Papac, Miller, Boyd, Lafferty.
Subs: Alexander, Novo, Beasley, Bougherra, Smith, Fleck, Little.
VfB Stuttgart: Lehmann, Osorio, Niedermaier, Delpierre, Boka, Rudy, Trasch, Hleb, Kuzmanovic, Cacau, Pogrebniak.
Subs: Ulreich, Tasci, Marica, Hitzlsperger, Gebhart, Hilbert, Schieber.
Referee: Roberto Rosetti (Italy)

1909: Barcelona v Inter Milan line-ups:
Barcelona:
Valdes, Dani Alves, Puyol, Pique, Abidal, Busquets, Xavi, Keita, Pedrito, Iniesta, Henry. Subs: Pinto, Marquez, Ibrahimovic, Messi, Bojan, Maxwell, Jonathan. Inter Milan: Julio Cesar, Maicon, Lucio, Samuel, Chivu, Cambiasso, Zanetti, Motta, Stankovic, Eto'o, Milito. Subs: Toldo, Cordoba, Quaresma, Muntari, Vieira, Materazzi, Balotelli. Referee: Massimo Busacca (Switzerland)

1908: Fiorentina v Lyon line-ups:
Fiorentina:
Frey, De Silvestri, Dainelli, Kroldrup, Gobbi, Zanetti, Montolivo, Marchionni, Santana, Vargas, Gilardino.
Subs: Avramov, Donadel, Jovetic, Castillo, Jorgensen, Pasqual, Comotto.
Lyon: Lloris, Gassama, Cris, Boumsong, Cissokho, Makoun, Pjanic, Kallstrom, Govou, Gomis, Michel Bastos.
Subs: Vercoutre, Lopez, Ederson, Kolodzieczak, Delgado, Tafer, Seguin.
Referee: Olegario Benquerenca (Portugal)

1907: Arsenal v Standard Liege line-ups:
Arsenal:
Almunia, Eboue, Gallas, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Fabregas, Song Billong, Denilson, Nasri, Arshavin, Vela.
Subs: Mannone, Sagna, Rosicky, Eduardo, Walcott, Silvestre, Traore.
Standard Liege: Bolat, Camozzato, Sarr, Felipe, Mulemo, Goreux, Witsel, Mangala, Carcela-Gonzalez, Dalmat, Mbokani.
Subs: Van Hout, Victor Ramos, Rocha, Traore, Gershon, Nicaise, Gohi-Bi.
Referee: Konrad Plautz (Austria)

From SalmanAliJnr on Twitter: "The ENGLISH EMPIRE in the Champions League is FALLING! Liverpool are heading the pack and there is more to come."

1902: Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez welcomes Glen Johnson back into his side for the Reds' must-win Champions League tie at Debrecen, with Fabio Aurelio and Lucas also coming in for the trip to Hungary. Daniel Agger, Yossi Benayoun and Ryan Babel join Fernando Torres and Albert Riera in the treatment room, while Martin Skrtel drops to the bench having started against Manchester City at the weekend. Debrecen are without influential left-back Leandro (knee ligament).

1900: Stevo's Predos:
Arsenal 3-1 Standard Liege
AZ Alkmaar 2-2 Olympiakos
Barcelona 1-1 Inter Milan
Debrecen 0-2 Liverpool
Fiorentina 1-1 Lyon
Rangers 1-2 Stuttgart
Rubin Kazan 1-0 Dynamo Kiev*
Unirea Urziceni 1-2 Sevilla

* Disclaimer: predo was made before the game in Russia started

BBC Sport's Phil McNulty at the Emirates: "Theo Walcott will have to wait for a start as he is named on the bench, but Kieran Gibbs is fit and in the Arsenal team. A point will see Arsenal through to the last 16 and manager Arsene Wenger is looking for a big reaction after the defeat at Sunderland on Saturday."

From soca_ger1 on 606: "We simply must beat Stuttgart tonight. Walter has to look to win the game instead of just going out not to get beaten."

1853: Debrecen v Liverpool line-ups:
Debrecen:
Poleksic, Bodnar, Meszaros, Mijadinoski, Fodor, Szelesi, Kiss, Szakaly, Czvitkovics, Laczko, Rudolf.
Subs: Pantic, Ramos, Dombi, Komlosi, Bernath, Varga, Coulibaly.
Liverpool: Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Insua, Kuyt, Lucas, Mascherano, Aurelio, Gerrard, Ngog.
Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Benayoun, Kyrgiakos, Spearing, Skrtel, Dossena.
Referee: Bjorn Kuipers (Holland)

From Chidi Uba, Bury St Edmunds, via text on 81111: "Today's Champions League promises to be exciting. I predict Arsenal will go through, Liverpool will get a lifeline with a win over Debrecen and Lyon's win over Fiorentina but a mighty, reverberating and shock exit for Barcelona as they lose and Rubin Kazan win."

1845: It's a safe bet Liverpool fans will be keeping a close eye on events at the Artemio Franchi tonight, as Fiorentina meet Lyon. A win for the Italians puts the Reds out - whether they win in the Ferenc Puskas Stadium or not. If Fiorentina draw and Liverpool win, Rafa Benitez's team would then need to beat the team from Florence 3-0 when they meet at Anfield in two weeks' time. If Liverpool don't beat Debrecen, they are out.

1842: Get involved via the usual methods: you can Twitter me up, there's a 606 thread to boot and the texts are already coming in to 81111, the magic number. Fill your boots.

1837: By the way, they are back under way in the second half at Central Stadium in Kazan as Rubin - who retained their Russian crown on Saturday - take on Dynamo Kiev in a crucial Group F encounter. It's still 0-0 and it's snowing like crazy.

1835: Another big night of European football on the way. Liverpool meet Hungarian champions Debrecen, Arsenal host Standard Liege and Rangers entertain Stuttgart, with the British teams all in very different positions in their respective groups. Kick-offs at 1945 GMT.

1830: Just when you think football can't get any more insane, Jermain Defoe and Spurs go goal-crazy, Arsene Wenger lashes out in a World Cup-based rant, England's 2018 World Cup bid threatens to completely fall apart and Portsmouth predictably yet ridiculously part company with manager Paul Hart. I'd like to see someone do better. Oh and tonight, holders Barcelona and five-time champions Liverpool could be dumped out of the Champions League.




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Champions League results

24 Nov 2009 23:59 UK

Home Team Score Away Team Time
Arsenal 2-0 Standard Liege R
AZ Alkmaar 0-0 Olympiakos R
Barcelona 2-0 Inter Milan R
Debrecen 0-1 Liverpool R
Fiorentina 1-0 Lyon R
Rangers 0-2 VfB Stuttgart R
Rubin Kazan 0-0 Dynamo Kiev R
Unirea Urziceni 1-0 Sevilla R

see also
Debrecen 0-1 Liverpool
24 Nov 09 |  Europe
Rangers 0-2 Stuttgart
24 Nov 09 |  Europe
Arsenal 2-0 Standard Liege
23 Nov 09 |  Europe
European football photo gallery
24 Nov 09 |  Football


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