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GOALFLASHES AND MAJOR INCIDENTS (all times GMT)

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By Chris Bevan

1910: And that is me done and dusted on what has been a weekend to remember in the Premier League, and beyond - thanks ever so much for keeping me company this afternoon. You can catch highlights of Birmingham v Man City, and get a round-up of all of yesterday's top-flight goals and red cards, on MOTD2 at 2000 GMT on BBC 2 ... oh and don't forget to join Cheesy on Tuesday evening for some Champions League action. Bye!

From Chris, via text on 81111: "Same old Man City. All the money in the world - can't score, can't win. The clock is ticking for Mark Hughes."

From BBC Sport's Paul Fletcher, at Cardiff City Stadium, on Twitter: "Plenty of chances, two well-taken goals, booming tackles, crazy weather - something for everyone. Cardiff might have gone top. But don't."

1901: Well, we were never going to match yesterday in terms of excitement but I don't think we did too badly entertainment-wise today, despite Birmingham City, Manchester City, Cardiff City and Nottingham Forest only mustering two goals and one red card between them. Loads of chances in both games, a last-gasp equaliser by Forest and a missed penalty from Birmingham's James McFadden meant we were not short on drama.

Full time
The man in the mask - Lewis McGugan - comes off the bench to rescue a point for Forest... and, for the second time today, a draw is probably the fairest result. Jay Bothroyd's goal looked like it would be sending Cardiff top of the Championship but McGugan's sweet strike in injury time earns Billy Davies' side a deserved point and preserves their unbeaten league record on the road.

1857: FULL-TIME Cardiff City 1-1 Nottingham Forest

1856: Ouch! Michael Chopra chases down a back-pass and loses his footing as Lee Camp clears, clattering the Forest keeper - it looks nastier than it was but the Cardiff striker still picks up a yellow card.

Goooooooaaaaaaaaal
Forest goal: Pick that one out. What an absolute cracking strike by Lewis McGugan... the ball ricochets into his path on the edge of the box and he takes one touch before burying the ball in the back of the net with his second. That was top quality. Forest are level, and it looks like West Brom will be staying top of the table.

1853: GOALFLASH Cardiff City 1-1 Nottingham Forest (McGugan)

1853: We will have four minutes of added time at the Cardiff City Stadium.

1852: Cardiff are defending desperately now, but are doing so pretty well. Michael Chopra comes back to steal possession on the edge of his own penalty area and finds Jay Bothroyd, who looks to eat up time in the opposite corner of the pitch.

It's raining
1850: The rain is coming down again in Cardiff. It's absolutely tipping down in fact.

1849: A lovely little ball by Garath McCleary almost finds its way through to David McGoldrick inside the Cardiff area. The Bluebirds clear for a corner and, when it is fired in, Kelvin Wilson fails to connect properly at the far post and scuffs his shot wide. That was a decent chance - Forest are still in this one.

1846: Ooof. Cardiff's Gavin Rae smashes in a scorching shot from about 25 yards out but it takes a slight touch off a Forest defender and flies wide. I'm not sure Lee Camp would have seen that, let alone stopped it.

1844: This is a decent spell by Forest but they are not looking like getting behind the Cardiff defence at the moment. The home side are under a bit of pressure but holding out... visiting boss Billy Davies is taking urgent swigs of water and pacing the touchline nervously - he knows time is running out for his men.

1842: Manchester City boss Mark Hughes on his side's 0-0 draw with Birmingham: "In terms of performance level it was probably the poorest we've played for some time. I was expecting us to show more quality. Shay Given was outstanding and needed to be at times. We are a work in progress and I'm sure we'll have more days like this but we'll take it as positive that we've taken something from this game."

1840: Yep, on comes Lewis McGugan, replacing Guy Moussi. Cardiff have got about 12 minutes to hang on to their lead... if they do, they will be top of the Championship tonight.

1839: An extremely calm back-heel by Cardiff defender Mark Hudson finds his goalkeeper David Marshall after a Forest attack breaks down. Dele Adebola almost latches on to it.

1837: Another change for Forest? Lewis McGugan, who is playing in a mask at the moment after fracturing a cheekbone in August, is getting ready to come on.

1835: Another chance for Forest's David McGoldrick, after Garath McCleary plays him in on the edge of the area. McGoldrick goes for placement, rather than power, but his low shot is easily gathered by Cardiff keeper David Marshall.

From BBC Sport's Paul Fletcher, at Cardiff City Stadium, on Twitter: "Forest's Chris Gunter and Cardiff's Michael Chopra in more or less continual dialogue. They'll know everything about each other soon."

1833: Paul Anderson is working hard for Forest down their left flank but Cardiff are soaking up everything the visitors are throwing at them, and looking dangerous on the counter-attack too. More goals? Maybe...

1832: BBC Sport football pundit Martin Keown on Cardiff's goal: "Those are the sorts of things that go in your favour when you're at home. Forest will feel a bit aggrieved but the linesmen favour the strikers these days. You can't complain about the finish."

1829: Forest boss Billy Davies makes a change, with Garath McCleary coming on for Joe Garner. The visitors have got 25 minutes left to find an equaliser.

1828: Former Cardiff defender Chris Gunter led the Forest protests for offside following that Jay Bothroyd goal but replays show the former Arsenal trainee was actually onside.

Goooooooaaaaaaaaal
Cardiff goal: Another swift break by Cardiff sees Michael Chopra find Joe Ledley, who slips Jay Bothroyd clear and he tucks the ball away into the bottom corner with aplomb. A great finish, but there was a hint of offside about Bothroyd.

1825: GOALFLASH Cardiff City 1-0 Nottingham Forest (Bothroyd)

1824: Radoslaw Majewski slides David McGoldrick through but his shot hits the side-netting. Forest fans at the other end of the ground think their side have scored... they haven't. Majewski is replaced by Dele Adebola before the corner is taken.

1822: Birmingham boss Alex McLeish on his side's 0-0 draw with Manchester City: "I've got a very disappointed dressing room. They gave everything. I thought we were in control of the game, it's just that finishing touch we're lacking. Shay Given was man of the match so that tells you everything. We can go into the next game with belief."

1820: Forest clear Cardiff's first corner, but only at the expense of a second one. Joe Ledley sends the ball goalwards but Radoslaw Majewski manages to hack it off the line.

1819: A swift break from Cardiff sees the ball fed to Michael Chopra who, despite having several defenders around him, works enough space for a shot. It's deflected wide for a corner.

1817: Forest are passing the ball around nicely but are not managing to get out of their own half too often. When they do, Radoslaw Majewski has a pop from 25 yards out but sees his shot fly a long way over.

1815: Jay Bothroyd gives the ball away and Forest play it forward to David McGoldrick, who sends over a cross in from the right but gets too much on it and cannot find a team-mate.

1813: A decent chance for Cardiff, as Jay Bothroyd chases a long ball over the top but Kelvin Wilson gets back to block his shot. Good defending, and it had to be.

1811: Plenty of industry from both sides at the start of the second half but nothing to show for it in front of goal as of yet. It's stopped raining in Cardiff now.

From English~Players~Dont~Dive on 606: "Well done Brum. For Man City to draw four in a row is not so good."

1808: Nottingham Forest get the second half under way.

1807: If you want to listen to the Cardiff game as well as watch it here and on BBC 2, you can do so on BBC Radio 5 live Sports Extra. Right now on Radio 5 live, Perry Groves and Gabriele Marcotti are taking your calls about the weekend's football action on 606.

1804: Birmingham move up one place, to 14th, courtesy of that point. I'm going to switch my full attention to Cardiff v Nottingham Forest now... well, once the second half starts anyhow.

Full time
1801: So Manchester City move fourth thanks to their fourth straight league draw but they have got their goalkeeper Shay Given to thank for their solitary point. Given kept out James McFadden's penalty and made some other super stops to frustrate Birmingham. Man City had their chances too, but in the end a draw was probably a fair result from an entertaining match.

1800: FULL-TIME Birmingham 0-0 Manchester City

Red card
A Birmingham attack breaks down and Barry Ferguson tries to hold up a Man City throw by handling the ball - Mike Dean shows him his second yellow card and that is a ninth top-flight red card this weekend.

1758: RED CARD Barry Ferguson (Birmingham)

1758: Around two minutes of injury time left at St Andrew's. Carlos Tevez finds space for a shot but smashes it high over Maik Taylor's crossbar.

From BBC Sport's Paul Fletcher, at Cardiff City Stadium, on Twitter: "Good chances, superb saves, feisty tackles, driving rain - plenty going on in the opening half. Just no goals to tell you about."

1756: Martin Petrov pops up on the right flank for Man City, and is in acres of space when Stephen Ireland picks him out... only to flash his shot across goal and almost out for a throw-in on the opposite flank.

1754: Lee Bowyer's cross reaches Kevin Phillips but he scuffs his shot as Vincent Kompany struggles to get across with him. The loose ball bounces through to Shay Given.

1753: We will have six minutes of injury time at St Andrew's.

1752: HALF-TIME Cardiff City 0-0 Nottingham Forest

1751: Here comes veteran Birmingham striker Kevin Phillips, replacing Cameron Jerome. Phillips has got two minutes of normal time, plus quite a bit of injury time following Roger Johnson's prolonged treatment, to try to find Birmingham a winner.

Handbags
1750: Handbags at the Cardiff City Stadium as Chris Gunter beats Peter Whittingham to the ball and the Cardiff striker clatters into him. A melee follows - but all that results is a yellow card for Whittingham.

1749: Sorry, it was actually Roger Johnson who was winded and needed attention. He's back on the pitch now though and play has resumed at St Andrew's.

1747: Man City pour forwards after clearing a Sebastian Larsson corner but Birmingham get enough bodies in the way to block Wayne Bridge's shot and hustle Carlos Tevez off the ball. It was Liam Ridgewell who got in the way of Bridge's shot and he is still feeling the after-effects. We'll have a delay while he gets treatment.

From Will in South Wales, via text on 81111: "Cardiff are a little shaky at the back but they look so much more threatening on the ball."

1745: Shaun Wright-Phillips has a bit of space and a chance to run at Birmingham left-back Liam Ridgewell. The England winger works space for a cross by the bye-line but promptly dinks the ball over the bar. A bit of a waste, that.

1742: Hmmm, it's all got a bit scrappy at St Andrew's, where Birmingham and Man City have 10 minutes to try and turn a draw into a win. The game has been played at a hectic pace so expect a frantic finale folks.

1739: Maik Taylor does well to deal with a dodgy Scott Dann back-pass but it leads to a Man City corner. Time for Birmingham to do some more defending but Craig Bellamy's delivery is poor and the home side's clear their lines.

1736: Gareth Barry bends over a cross from the left flank to the far post, where the unlikely figure of Shaun Wright-Phillips rises above Liam Ridgewell. He cannot direct his header goalwards but is offside in any case.

1733: Both sides are still going hell for leather at St Andrew's in search of the opening goal. Sebastian Larsson has a go for the home side from about 40 yards with a looping shot but it sails a mile high and wide.

From BBC Sport's Paul Fletcher, at Cardiff City Stadium, on Twitter: "Plenty of action at both ends - just what everyone needed to warm up after a brutal pre-match downpour. Welcome to Cardiff."

1730: Carlos Tevez cuts in from the left and lets fly with his right foot. He gets plenty of power behind his shot but it is easily tipped over by Birmingham keeper Maik Taylor.

1729: We've got around 25 minutes left at St Andrew's and Man City are making another change - Martin Petrov is on for the largely ineffective Roque Santa Cruz.

From FootballAdict on Twitter: "Shay Given has had a great afternoon. If he wasn't in between the posts, Birmingham would surely be winning easily."

1726: Not sure what Roque Santa Cruz is doing tracking Keith Fahey back to the left-hand edge of his penalty area before hauling down the Birmingham substitute. Gareth Barry gets a good head to the free-kick to clear the danger.

1725: How this game is still goalless I will never know... Sebastian Larsson crosses from the right and Cameron Jerome holds off Vincent Kompany but sees his header loop forward.

1724: Fresh from missing that penalty, James McFadden is replaced by Birmingham boss Alex McLeish. Keith Fahey is on instead.

1724: Stephen Ireland comes on for Nigel de Jong and City immediately go close to taking the lead. Craig Bellamy's corner falls for Joleon Lescott but his snap-shot is straight at Maik Taylor.

1723: Man City's turn to threaten. Shaun Wright-Phillips is in acres of space on the right of the area but Roger Johnson does well to clear his low cross at the near post.

1722: Terrific chances at both ends in Cardiff. Forest were seemingly camped in the Cardiff area for a few minutes until Paul Anderson missed a glorious opportunity, firing agonisingly wide after the ball fell kindly for him inside the box. Cardiff hit straight back though and Lee Camp had to pull off a couple of cracking stops to keep out a Peter Whittingham drive and then Joe Ledley's follow-up.

1721: Referee Mike Dean points to the spot after Nigel de Jong and Sebastian Larsson jump to challenge for a high ball and the ball hits the Birmingham man then deflects on to De Jong's arm. He's unlucky but Shay Given comes to Man City's rescue in any case, plunging to his left to superbly push away James McFadden's spot-kick.

1719: PENALTY SAVED by Shay Given

1718: PENALTY to Birmingham

From Mr Cliche on 606: "Man City must be thinking 'get the ball to Carlos Tevez!' He's the key."

1716: Cameron Jerome causes Vincent Kompany a few problems as he chases a long ball over the top - the Birmingham striker is a bit of handful. They both go to the ground, but Shaun Wright-Phillips is there to tidy up for the visitors in any case.

1714: Wayne Bridge makes good ground from his own half before finding Carlos Tevez but the Argentine shoots wastefully over from about 25 yards.

1712: Sounds like a good atmosphere in Cardiff but the visitors are making more noise on the field in the opening few minutes. Forest striker David McGoldrick goes close with an off-balance shot that fails to test home keeper David Marshall.

1711: I bring good news. Your Cardiff-Forest coverage should be working now, if you're in the UK that is.

1710: An early chance for Birmingham, right at the start of the second half. Joleon Lescott tries to shepherd a bouncing ball through to Shay Given... and is relieved to see his keeper reach it before Christian Benitez can nip in.

1708: We're having a few technical problems with our live coverage of Cardiff-Forest (above) but I'm told it is "being sorted". Sorry about that.

1707: Man City start the second half at St Andrew's. A win would send them fourth, but so would a draw. Only on goal difference, mind.

1706: Yep, as Ben points out below, Birmingham's players are probably well aware that the club's new owner Carson Yeung has promised Alex McLeish £40m to spend in January. He could buy Robinho with that, and still have some change.

From Ben, via text on 81111: "Looks like the takeover of their club is having a good motivational impact on Birmingham's players. They've played bit better for last couple of games."

1701: We are under way at the Cardiff City Stadium. I'm not going to bring you much more than goalflashes in the first half of that one - but most of you will probably be watching the game slightly higher up this page so hopefully that won't cause you too many problems. Once Birmingham-Man City has ended, I'll give events in Wales my undivided attention. Diolch yn fawr iawn.

From Dave in Chorley, via text on 81111: "Gareth Barry has had a stinker today, he hasn't found a team-mate with a pass. He was awful at Villa last month too. Maybe he doesn't play well when receiving abuse?"

From acmilandrew on Twitter: "Considering the fact that Roque Santa Cruz is supposed to be the physical presence up front for Man City, it's odd he has hardly seen any of the ball."

1653: We've had an entertaining first 45 minutes at St Andrews - no goals but bags of chances and both teams looking to get forward when they can. Birmingham started the brightest but Man City came into things as the half wore on and this one is still very much up for grabs.

1651: HALF-TIME Birmingham 0-0 Manchester City

Yellow card
1650: Man City look to end the half on a high note too, with Scott Dann's lunge on Carlos Tevez earning him a yellow card and giving Man City a free-kick near the right-hand corner of the area. Gareth Barry takes it, but curls it a long, long way over the bar. The home fans seemed to enjoy that.

1649: If you live in the UK and you give this page a manual refresh, you will be able to see coverage of Cardiff v Nottingham Forest, right above where you are reading this.

1647: Birmingham almost come up with the goods. It looks like Sebastian Larsson has been bustled out of it down the right but the ball is only cleared as far as Lee Bowyer, who forces a fine save from Shay Given with a shot that was heading for the top corner.

1645: Less than five minutes to go until half-time at St Andrew's. This game hasn't been bad but it needs a goal, wouldn't you agree?

From essienthetrain on 606: "Re 1609. Robbie Williams at Huddersfield? They should have bought (Juan Pablo) Angel instead."

1641: Man City have a free-kick, in a central position about 40 yards out, after James McFadden hauls down Craig Bellamy. Bellamy takes it, but scuffs his shot horribly and it trickles harmlessly out of play.

1639: TEAMS Cardiff City v Nottingham Forest
Cardiff: Marshall, Matthews, Hudson, Gerrard, Kennedy, Whittingham, McPhail, Ledley, Burke, Bothroyd, Chopra. Subs: Enckelman, Rae, Gyepes, Quinn, Taiwo, Feeney, McCormack.
Nottm Forest: Camp, Gunter, Morgan, Wilson, Cohen, Garner, McKenna, Moussi, Majewski, Anderson, McGoldrick. Subs: Smith, Perch, Chambers, McGugan, Adebola, McCleary, Lynch.
Referee: Graham Salisbury (Lancashire)

1638: Birmingham are still looking lively too and Sebastian Larsson is unlucky not to latch on to Lee Bowyer's measured through ball. He would have been clean through too.

From L33PYP on Twitter: "Re 1557. I think that's harsh on Maik Taylor, he has been a superb asset for us Blues (Birmingham) over the years. Looking good for the win!"

1635: Man City come forward again. A lovely slide-rule pass by Carlos Tevez sets Shaun Wright-Phillips free down the right but his pull-back is eventually cleared - through weight of numbers more than anything - before it reaches Roque Santa Cruz.

Yellow card
1633: Man City break from the resulting corner and Barry Ferguson goes into Mike Dean's book for blocking off Craig Bellamy's run. Bellamy bends the ball into the area from the free-kick but Lescott heads well over.

1631: Birmingham's first effort on goal for a while. The ball comes to James McFadden on the edge of the area and he looks up before smashing in a rising shot that Man City keeper Shay Given does well to tip wide.

1628: The game has settled down a bit now too... it had been quite a hectic first few minutes. Did you know it is Man City boss Mark Hughes' birthday today? He is 46.

1626: A first real spell of pressure by Man City... Birmingham had the better of the first 20 minutes but the visitors seem to be finding their feet now.

From anon (unsurprisingly), via text on 81111: "Re 1609. He will have had no regrets about his performance today. Sorry."

1623: Birmingham goalkeeper Maik Taylor's first test today. Shaun Wright-Phillips fires in an awkward shot that bounces right in front of the keeper. He can only parry it, but the ball is hacked clear before Roque Santa Cruz can pounce.

From AlexVickers11 on Twitter: "Christian Benitez is a good player. Once he gets his first goal, I think more will come."

1619: Gareth Barry, formerly of Aston Villa, is also getting a hearty reception from the home fans. This game is still end to end... no goals yet but plenty of chances.

1618: Better from Man City. Carlos Tevez releases Craig Bellamy and it takes a superb block from Roger Johnson to stop his shot, not sure whether Maik Taylor would have stopped that.

1617: Man City's first effort on goal. Shaun Wright-Phillips crosses from the right and Roque Santa Cruz meets the ball at the near post, only to send his header well wide.

1616: Blimey. Man City really are at sixes and sevens and the ball breaks for Christian Benitez again after good work by Cameron Jerome. Benitez sprints to the edge of the area but his shot is blocked by Shay Given. 'Chucho' should have done far better there.

Someone has struck the woodwork
1614: More decent stuff from Birmingham, who come within an inch of taking the lead. Referee Mike Dean plays a good advantage and Christian Benitez advances to the edge of the area before firing in a shot that deflects off Vincent Kompany and is tipped on to a post by Shay Given. Great save.

1611: Man City's former Wolves defender Joleon Lescott has received a warm welcome from the Birmingham fans. Lescott is from Birmingham and grew up supporting Aston Villa... at the moment his every touch is being booed.

1610: The first effort on goal comes from Birmingham. Barry Ferguson wins a tussle with Gareth Barry and runs into the area before letting fly with a low shot. It fizzes just wide of Shay Given's far post.

1609: It's all over at Oldham by the way. Huddersfield have finished 1-0 winners thanks to Robbie Williams' second-half strike. The victory is only Huddersfield's second league win on the road this season and takes the Terriers up to sixth in the League One table.

From Kate_BT on Twitter: "Birmingham are just killing time until January when they can spend lots of money. They'll score today, but won't win."

1607: Not much from Man City coming forward yet. Well, nothing at all actually apart from Roque Santa Cruz slipping over a couple of times.

1605: Birmingham have made a lively start and are trying to get at the visitors straightaway. Stephen Carr crosses from the right, but the ball flies far too deep and is nowhere near a team-mate.

1603: And we're off. Birmingham get the first-half started.

1602: Birmingham don't play at home next weekend so they are having their Remembrance Sunday tribute now. A minute's silence at St Andrew's.

1601: Birmingham will go 12th with a win today, while Man City would climb to fourth if they collect the three points. Mark Hughes' side have drawn their last three league games.

1557: Right then. Not long to go. The Birmingham and Man City players are just coming out on to the St Andrew's pitch...

From jacktheoracle on Twitter: "Maik Taylor is woeful, long day for Birmingham ahead."

1550: Around 10 minutes to go until kick-off at St Andrew's. Birmingham have all the recent form in this one, having won three of their last games with Man City on home ground.

FromThe Midland 20 on 606: "Today sees Birmingham start a 28-game winning streak which sees them finish 1st in the PL. Or then again..."

1543: Birmingham boss Alex McLeish on recalling goalkeeper Maik Taylor today because Joe Hart, who is on loan from Manchester City, is ineligible to play: "He's in good form and I have no qualms at all about bringing Maik in. I have to make hard decisions on team selection. They are never easy and they are never personal and it is just about how I see things. I am just glad we have two cracking keepers at the club."

From paulmreynolds on Twitter: "I think Vincent Kompany is just the type of player Joleon Lescott needs to play alongside; a leader of men. Lescott to play well today."

1537: One last thing from yesterday... you might have missed Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger hurling his jacket to the ground during his side's win in the north London derby with Tottenham at the Emirates? Here's Mr Wenger's explanation why: "I threw my jacket down because I was frustrated, I couldn't communicate with the players because of the noise of the stadium - I am not used to that!"


Your thoughts?

From tom_gilhooleys_spurs on 606: "It's an absolute disgrace that Manchester City boss Mark Hughes continues to leave Stephen Ireland out of the team. Far and away City's best player last season and now warming the bench.

1533: I'm told Manchester City duo Emmanuel Adebayor and Kolo Toure have both missed today's game because of ankle injuries. Vincent Kompany will partner Joleon Lescott at the heart of the City defence.

1531: Not many games today, so I need more chat from you - that's only fair, right? So, what are you waiting for... Twit me baby one more time on Twitter, text me via 81111, or drop me a line on 606. Go on, it's not as though you've got anything better to do.

1528: TEAM NEWS Birmingham v Man City
Birmingham goalkeeper Joe Hart is forced to sit the match out as part of the terms of his loan deal from Manchester City. Maik Taylor starts in his place. Other than that, it is the same side that earned a 2-1 victory over Sunderland in Carson Yeung's first home match as Blues chairman last Saturday. Emmanuel Adebayor missed Manchester City's Carling Cup win over Scunthorpe with a back spasm and again misses out at St Andrews. Roque Santa Cruz keeps his place after scoring on Wednesday, Pablo Zabaleta starts ahead of Micah Richards at right-back and Shaun Wright-Phillips is preferred ahead of Martin Petrov in midfield.

From kopite76on 606: "Cardiff v Forest is a great tie, Forest defending well and City one of the best going forward. Cardiff to win today and go top!"

1523: That leaves us with Oldham v Huddersfield in League One (a 1400 GMT kick-off) - where Robbie Williams (he gets everywhere doesn't he?) has just put the Terriers ahead. Then Birmingham v Man City is at 1600 GMT, followed by Cardiff City v Nottingham Forest in the Championship at 1700 GMT. The good news is that if you're in the UK, you will be able to watch that game on this very page - and it's live on BBC 2 as well, for good measure.

1521: As for today? well there were four games in total but that's already been reduced to three-and-a-half after Dundee United v Rangers was abandoned at half-time at Tannadice because of a waterlogged pitch.

1519: Then there's Liverpool, of course. The good news for Reds fans is that Fulham boss Roy Hodgson thinks they can still win the league despite their 3-1 defeat to his side on Saturday. And Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez has defended his decision to take off star striker Fernando Torres while the score was 1-1. He needed to nurse the injured Spaniard ahead of Wednesday's crucial Champions League game with Lyon.

1517: TEAMS Birmingham v Manchester City
Birmingham: Maik Taylor, Carr, Roger Johnson, Dann, Ridgewell, Larsson, Ferguson, Bowyer, McFadden, Jerome, Benitez. Subs: Doyle, Phillips, Fahey, McSheffrey, Parnaby, Carsley, Vignal.
Man City: Given, Zabaleta, Kompany, Lescott, Bridge, Wright-Phillips, De Jong, Barry, Bellamy, Santa Cruz, Tevez. Subs: Taylor, Richards, Johnson, Ireland, Sylvinho, Petrov, Weiss.
Referee: Mike Dean (Wirral)

1516: As you'd expect, there's been lots of fall-out from yesterday's events. Firstly, under-fire Hull boss Phil Brown will remain in charge of the Tigers for next weekend's home game for Stoke, according to BBC Radio 5 live. There had been a lot of talk in today's papers that Brown would be sacked on Monday.

1514: For the record, the men seeing red yesterday were: JLloyd Samuel (Bolton), Diniyar Bilyaletdinov (Everton), Carlos Cuellar (Aston Villa), Geovanni (Hull), Kenwyne Jones (Sunderland), Radoslav Kovac (West Ham), Philipp Degan (Liverpool) and Jamie Carragher (Liverpool). They are all sitting in a big sin-bin, somewhere. Or at least they should be.

1512: Saturday actually set a record for the most sendings off in the Premier League in a single day, beating the six that got their marching orders on 7 May 2005. The record for a weekend is nine, from the 1999/00 season. Will we beat that? Well, the referee at St Andrew's today - Mike Dean - has yet to dismiss a player in any of his four PL games this season... so he's certainly due a red card or two. We'll see.

1510 GMT: How was yesterday for you then? Yes, I know. Crazy wasn't it? Nine Premier League games containing 29 goals and eight red cards. We'll be hard-pressed to match that tally today, mainly because there is only one top-flight game - Birmingham v Manchester City. Still, you never know...




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Premier League results

1 Nov 2009 23:59 UK

Home Team Score Away Team Time
Birmingham 0-0 Man City R

Premier League table snapshot

As it stood on 1 Nov 2009 23:59 UK

Position Team P GD PTS
1 Chelsea 11 20 27
2 Man Utd 11 12 25
3 Arsenal 10 19 22
4 Man City 10 7 19
5 Tottenham 11 4 19
6 Liverpool 11 9 18
7 Aston Villa 10 5 18
8 Sunderland 11 3 17
9 Stoke 11 -2 16
10 Burnley 11 -10 15
11 Fulham 10 0 14
12 Wigan 11 -9 13
13 Everton 10 -3 12
14 Birmingham 11 -4 11
15 Bolton 10 -5 11
16 Wolverhampton 11 -7 10
17 Blackburn 10 -13 10
18 Hull 11 -16 8
19 West Ham 10 -4 7
20 Portsmouth 11 -6 7

see also
Sunday's football photos
01 Nov 09 |  Football
Birmingham 0-0 Manchester City
01 Nov 09 |  Premier League
Cardiff 1-1 Nottingham Forest
01 Nov 09 |  Championship
Football on the BBC
11 Aug 10 |  Football


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