BBC Sport world-cup-2010


Germany 4-1 England

By Jonathan Stevenson
  1. 09:27 Commentary  

    Hello. I'm Chris Bevan in Cape Town, and welcome to day 17 of the 2010 World Cup. You could argue the tournament is only really just getting started but, for England or Germany, it will all end today.

  2. 09:30 Commentary  

    I'm going to be guiding you through all the build-up to today's big game in Bloemfontein, which kicks off at 15:00 BST and is live on BBC One and this website (in the UK). I hope you're refreshed, and ready for the next few hours, because this is going to be huge.

  3. 09:34 Commentary  

    England playing Germany at a World Cup is never going to be quiet, is it? It certainly hasn't been in the past. It's definitely going to be a big day, and hopefully it's going to be a great day. I want to know how you are feeling too - text me on 81111 (UK) or +44 7786200666 (worldwide), I'm on Twitter @chrisbevan_bbc or join the chat on 606.

  4. Commentary Ex-England manager and Wolfsburg boss Steve McClaren on BBC Radio 5 live's Sportsweek  

    "The Germans are not so confident about this game, they fear England's players and they fear that England haven’t performed as they can and that they will explode into life. From talking to people at Wolfsburg, I get the feeling that in the back of their minds the Germans have their excuses ready."

  5. Contributor BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty  

    via Twitter: "Beautiful Bloemfontein day. Perfect weather for a classic World Cup meeting between England and Germany."

  6. 09:45 Commentary  

    There's already been a bit of controversy in the build-up to today's big game, with England coach Fabio Capello and captain Steven Gerrard only spending five minutes in their pre-match press conference, while Germany boss Joachim Loew did not even turn up at all. It was England who got most of the stick, however, as more than 250 journalists from around the world plus around 30 TV crews had packed into the media tent at the Free State Stadium, where the only questions taken were from British reporters. Giancarlo Galavotti, of Italy's Gazzetta dello Sport, said: "That was typical. They do not seem to appreciate this is the World Cup, with the emphasis on the word 'World'. The FA do not seem to think the rest of the world is important."

  7. SMS  

    From Heather in Leeds: "Chris, I’m ready for this, although I’m not sure how confident I am of a victory. No penalties please!"

  8. SMS  

    From Fred Murray in Surrey: "I predict it will end 3-1 to Germany. England's lack of creativity and chemistry will hurt them and they will not be able to cope with Ozil and break down the very solid Schweinsteiger."

  9. 09:56 Commentary  

    BBC Sport's John Motson (AKA World Cup Motty) has just wandered over to deliver his prediction for today, which is "England to win in extra-time". No penalties then Motty? "I hope not."

  10. 10:01 Commentary  

    So Motty fancies England - but what of the other pundits? It's bad news for us, I'm afraid. Paul the psychic octopus from the Oberhausen Sea Life Aquarium has plumped for Germany today (well, he actually chose a mussel from a jar with the German flag on it ahead of one in a similar jar bearing the cross of St George). Even cephalopods think Mesut Ozil will cause Fabio Capello's men problems then?

  11. SMS  

    From Anthony in Frankfurt: "Hi Chris, I think Steve McClaren’s German friends were just being kind him. I live in Frankfurt and i can tell you that the Germans expect to win. From the people I know and watching and listening to the media the Germans seem very relaxed."

  12. Commentary Former England boss Glenn Hoddle  

    "England have not played at their best, but I think that is quite a good thing. They started slowly and there was a lot of pressure on them but they have come through that, improved their performance and I think they are meeting Germany at the right time. Germany are a good side, but they have lost a match and shown they are vulnerable. I think it will be tight but I think England have a very, very good chance of winning."

  13. 10:19 Commentary  

    Yep, Mesut Ozil - who BBC Sport's Jonathan Stevenson describes as having "the dribbling skills of a young Paul Gascoigne and the bulging eyes of a goal-hungry Salvatore Schillachi" - is widely seen as being Germany's dangerman today. I spoke to Lee Dixon about how England can combat Ozil, who floats between midfield and attack in a free role, and he told me: "The key to keeping him quiet is getting the decision-making right on whether a defender should come out or a midfielder should drop in - and that will change constantly throughout the game."

  14. Twitter  

    Injured England captain Rio Ferdinand on Twitter: "Come on u lions, do us proud! I'm predicting a 1-0 victory in 90 minutes! Rooney to score! I got the result right vs Slovenia so trust me twitfam!"

  15. Twitter  

    From aaron1606: "Bring on the Germans! They haven't convinced me at all yet, a good win against a poor side, then a defeat and a narrow win."

  16. 10:30 Commentary  

    Iif Mesut Ozil will be key to Germany's hopes, a certain Wayne Rooney is pivotal to England's. Rooney has not scored for England in a competitive match for nine months, and has not always looked at his best during this World Cup but his captain Steven Gerrard believes he will come good against Germany. "It's only a matter of time before Wayne scores in this tournament," Gerrard said. "I have every confidence he will play well. He played well in the last game and looks really sharp in training."

  17. Contributor BBC Sport's Mark Lawrenson  

    "It is England v Germany so it is 50-50 but England have better players, or more better players, so I expect them to win. England have got to play their normal style and set the tempo. I think the balance of the side is right and the key is down the two sides, Gerrard and Cole on the left and Milner and Johnson on the right. I would not change the team from the one that faced Slovenia."

  18. 10:42 Commentary  

    As you would expect, the back pages of today's papers in England are dominated by talk of today's game (which you can watch live on BBC One and this website (in the UK)). The News of the World ask England to "do it for Bobby" (world Cup winner Bobby Moore and Sir Bobby Robson. The Sunday Times, Mail on Sunday and the Observer all lead with Fabio Capello's calls for his England players to "make history" by forgetting the past and beating Germany, while the Sunday Express go with "your country needs Roo" after Fabio Capello backed Wayne Rooney to find his goalscoring touch.

  19. SMS  

    Walter from Freetown in Sierra Leone: "I’ve got a feeling that England are gonna explode today and let’s expect a Wanye Rooney goal."

  20. Commentary Former England manager Steve McClaren  

    "I don't think it will go to penalties. Taking chances is vital - and I think that if England score the first goal then, with the players they have got, they should not lose this game. And if they go 1-0 up, the Germans will have to take more risks and England can make it 2-0."

  21. 606  

    From GunnerJoseph: "We have yet to hit top form in the tournament but this is the time to really get behind the boys and push any criticism of a poor group stage to one side. The tension is going to be unbearable but it should be a truly great game and I think we can just about edge this one."

  22. 10:57 Commentary  

    There is another game going on today you know? An important one too. Whoever wins out of England and Germany will play either Argentina or Mexico in the quarter-finals, and those two sides meet at Johannesburg's Soccer City Stadium at 19:30 BST. Let's not even think about England v Diego Maradona's Argentina just yet though folks - there is a lot of football to be played first.

  23. 11:02 Commentary  

    And there were a couple of games played last night though as well. Uruguay and Ghana beat South Korea and the United States to become the first two teams into the last eight, and looked very impressive too - are any of you still wishing England played Ghana by the way?

  24. 11:07 Commentary  

    After getting the view from the English papers, it's only fair we do the same with the German media (or some of it anyway). Bild, who you might remember got a little carried away with the way Joachim Loew's side beat Australia in their opening game, are in confident mood again this morning too, running with the headline: "England, you are going down!"

  25. Commentary Former West Ham boss and ex-Italy international Gianfranco Zola  

    "I think England will beat Germany. They are a strong team and more experienced, and probably have more talent in their team so I expect them to prevail. England had a very difficult team at the beginning of the tournament but I'm sure that has made them stronger."

  26. 606  

    From sjeuk: "Re 1001. I just tested the oracle octopus' prediction of a Germany win with the household pets. Sad to say both cats and the dog chose the screwed up tissue that represented Germany over the one that represented England. I do hope they are wrong!"

  27. 11:16 Commentary  

    If you are looking to kill a bit of time before kick-off today, BBC Sport's Phil McNulty is sat at the stadium in Bloemfontein and is currently doing a Q&A via Twitter. Drop him a question if you want to get involved.

  28. 11:20 Commentary  

    If you are feeling a bit edgy about England's prospects, then Harry Redknapp's thoughts should give you a boost. The Tottenham boss has backed Spurs striker Jermain Defoe to be England's matchwinner again today, just like he was against Slovenia on Wednesday. "He is a fantastic finisher, a goalscorer and a predator - the best we have got," Redknapp said. "He is not going to do a lot in the build-up and he is not going to hold the ball up for you either but give him a chance and he will score."

  29. Commentary British tennis No.1 Andy Murray  

    "I would like to see England win, but Germany did look pretty good. You never
    know in a knockout. England have got the players to win the match but they just need to play well."

  30. 606  

    From blueboyrob: "The biggest problem, as always with England is mental. If we can convince ourselves that we have a better team than Germany and are capable of beating them, then I see us winning. Please let us play with some arrogance, fire out of the blocks and hit them hard fast and early."

  31. Twitter  

    From yeabiruh: "Hi Chris, I am Ash from Los Angeles. The Lions will go home today - the Germans are superior in the midfield and in attack."

  32. Contributor BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty  

    "The Free State Stadium is buzzing with anticipation already ahead of England v Germany. Fabio Capello will soon answer the only selection question left - namely who will partner John Terry in central defence? He may well be tempted to leave well alone after the win against Slovenia, but Jamie Carragher and Ledley King will be hoping otherwise.


    "Mood among those of us following England throughout this South African campaign? Cautious optimism."

  33. 11: 34 Commentary  

    Germany coach Joachim Loew has a few decisions to make in terms of his team selection ahead of kick-off. Striker Cacau is out injured, so Miroslav Klose will definitely return after his suspension but midfielder Bastian Schweinsteiger (hamstring) and defender Jerome Boateng (calf muscle) are doubts and face late fitness tests. Schweinsteiger, in particular, would be badly missed.

  34. 11:39 Commentary  

    There will be 15,000 England fans at the Free State Stadium in Bloemfontein, while 30m are expected to watch the game on TV in England, including thousands on a big screen at Glastonbury. Troops in Helmand, Afghanistan, will watch a recording of the match later. Germany is also in the grip of World Cup fever - 500,000 fans are expected to watch the match on outdoor screens in the centre of Berlin.

  35. 11:45 Commentary  

    Here's a bit more from German newspaper Bild, and they are still in confident mood. They write: "Jubeln, chillen, England grillen," (Celebrate, chill out and grill England) . "It's the first genuine day of summer. Hello summer! Good-bye England."

  36. 11:53 Commentary  

    Some bad news to report ahead of kick-off. BBC Sport's Jonathan Stevenson and Howard Nurse let England down with a humiliating 5-3 table football defeat against their counterparts from Germany TV station ZDF earlier this weekend. The commentary was in German, so I'm not sure how much stick they are giving us about it, but the vuvuzelas in the background are a very nice touch. Let's hope England do better when it comes to the real thing (when Stevenson and Nurse will NOT be playing).

  37. SMS  

    From Dave: "I’m an English teacher in Hamburg and all of my German students and friends are very confident of an easy win today - they think England have been rubbishso far! There’s been plenty of banter in lessons but if Germany do win then football will be a barred topic in class for the next week!"

  38. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Ian Dennis Germany v England early team news  

    "As we know the team news is never concerned until two hours before kick-off but I understand that England will be unchanged this afternoon. That means Fabio Capello, for the first time in his England career, will name the same side in successive games. The one area of debate was who will partner John Terry, I understand that will be Matthew Upson.


    "For Germany I understand Bastian Schweinsteiger will be fit but Jerome Boateng will not.

  39. 606  

    From Jay: "OK, panic stations over, after the octopus and household pets went for a German win I decided to test it on an intelligent species. Namely my nine-month-old daughter, and she went straight for the England post-it without any hesitation, now I can relax again and look forward to the game."

    I hear a few people are using Paul the psychic octopus's tip and heading for the bookies because they think they might be squids in. I'll get my coat...

  40. 12:11 Commentary  

    So, where are you watching today - and who with? Any mixed Anglo-German World Cup parties going on? There could be one of those in Toronto, Canada, where British Prime Minister David Cameron is hoping to take time out from the G20 summit to watch part of the match with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

  41. SMS  

    From Dan: "Chris, have a St George flag proudly on display from my flat in Dortmund. Been wearing the three lions with pride. There’s definitely a lot of confidence from the locals which will just make it all the sweeter if the boys do the job today. Come on!! (Otherwise dreading work on Monday!)"

  42. 606  

    From Bunteh: "Wayne Rooney needs to step up and play today. He was better agaisnt Slovenia but hopefully today is when he finally plays like we all know he can. Gareth Barry needs to improve also, if we lose the ball to the Germans they won't be as kind as the Slovenians were."

  43. 12:26 Commentary  

    All-round Germany legend (and their former manager) Jurgen Klinsmann says he wishes this game was taking place in the semi-final or final, not the second round. He says expectations are high back home, despite everybody trying to play down German hopes but is worried that Wayne Rooney might come to life in this game. I think that means he rates him.

  44. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Graham Taylor  

    "When I saw Germany play Australia, a poor performance by Australia I grant you, I thought it was the best complete team performance of the tournament but I ask whether they can play any better. When we see England I say they have got to play better and now they are meeting it is going to be touch and go again. I'm going for 2-1 to England but I'm afraid it will be after extra-time."

  45. SMS  

    From Freddie: "Hi Chris, I'm at Glastonbury, had an amazing weekend, now we're all heading over to 'football field' where they're showing the match. Only one result cou ld make the weekend perfect!! Come on England!!!"

  46. SMS  

    From anon: "After the psychic octopus prediction, I decided to put everything I have on a Germany win. All my worldly possessions are now with the prawnbrokers."


    And I thought my squid gag was bad?

  47. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Chris Waddle  

    "All the Germans are so positive. We call it arrogance but they are just very, very confident - they really believe in themselves. I was reading Lucas Podolski's interview and he says that it's a fantastic changing room, it's a young team but experience counts for nothing - look at France. It's all positive, they never think about what could happen if they lose. I like that about the Germans, I've got a lot of respect for them."

  48. Commentary Germany coach Joachim Loew  

    "England is always England. It's team with a lot of fighting spirit and very strong mentally, with incredible experience. The axis with John Terry, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard and Wayne Rooney has the highest quality you can find in European football."

  49. 12:48 Commentary  

    I'm listening to some Germany fans in Munich on BBC Radio 5 live who seem a bit surprised that England have been practicing penalties. I think they just assume they will win if it comes to a shoot-out (they are already singing "England's going home" to the tune of Three Lions). Still, it won't come to that will it? Or will it?

  50. SMS  

    From Sam in Brixton: "My father lives in Berlin and he says that most of the German population are very worried about facing England. So why are we all so worried. We can, and I believe will, win this. England expects. Have confidence - 2-0 England, no extra time, no penalties."

  51. 12:53 Commentary  

    By the way, England will be wearing their lucky* all-red kit again today. Bodes well, doesn't it?


    *As long as you ignore the fact they lost to Brazil wearing it in 1995.

  52. 12:55 Commentary  

    Just over two hours until kick-off... why not join World Cup Motty for a quick Q&A to take your mind off things.

  53. Commentary Former England captain Michael Vaughan on BBC Radio 5 live  

    "I really feel that in these instances that when you play Australia as a cricketer or Germany as a footballer it is your time to make a real name for yourself.


    "You might get a hundred or a five-wicket haul against the Aussies or you might score the winning goal against Germany today - that has to be your mentality. You have to think of all the good things that can happen to you."

  54. SMS  

    From anon: "I'm at Glastonbury with my german friend Dina. About to watch the game shortly, Dina in her germany shirt and me in my england shirt. It's been a great weekend but only one of us can be happy after this game! At least I know the crowd will be with me!"

  55. SMS  

    From Chris and Jo: "We are a mixed Anglo-German household in the Sauerland area of Germany! We will be happy with whoever wins but so hope for a good game with both teams playing their very best and positively and that we have a result at full time!"

  56. Twitter  

    From GrahamMelroy: "Hi Chris, am in Stavanger in Norway - glorious weather and Norwegian friends to a man think England will win. Wish I had the same feeling!"

  57. Commentary Prince Harry, who will be watching England v Germany in New York  

    "I just hope we beat Germany because there has been a bit of a past history between England and Germany, but you know as long as our guys do their best, the country will be hugely proud of them. I think we've already done fantastically well so let's see how we go."

  58. 13:14 Commentary  

    Right, that's all from me for now - I'll be back later on for Argentina v Mexico though. Over to Jonathan Stevenson to take you through the rest of the build-up to England v Germany and the all-important match itself. Kick-off is 15:00 BST - did I mention you can watch it live on BBC One and this website in the UK? Thought not.

  59. 13:17 Commentary  

    Hey there. I’m Jonathan Stevenson, I’m in the South African city of Johannesburg and I’ve waited my whole life to introduce World Cup coverage of Germany v England. The two words that best sum me up today? Proud and emotional. And so it begins.

  60. 13:20 Commentary  

    Refresh your page and let's get going. Just don’t mention the Phoney War - this is a football match, nothing else. It’s a 90/120-minute game of the greatest sport on earth between two countries who both have hopes and dreams of winning the World Cup. I mean there’s no need to be silly about it, is there?

  61. Contributor BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty  

    "Words were at a premium from England coach Fabio Capello and Germany counterpart Joachim Loew - well less than a premium from Loew as he never actually pitched up - at their media conference last night, but the action is likely to be much more eventful.

    "Capello looks to have rewarded Matthew Upson for conquering early nerves and making a priceless late tackle against Slovenia to see off the claims of Jamie Carragher and Ledley King.

    "Two players are dominating conversations here in Bloemfontein. Can Mesut Ozil maintain his sparking form - and can Wayne Rooney rediscover his? The clock is ticking to the time when we will find out."

  62. 13:26 Commentary  

    As the Stuart Pearce mock-up poster says, your country needs you. Now, far be it from me to discriminate, so I don’t care what country you’re from or who you’re supporting, I just want to hear from you. It’s as simple as A-B-C:
    A) Tweet me @Stevo_football.
    B) Text me on 81111 (UK) or +44 7786200666 (worldwide).
    C) Join up and join in on 606.

  63. SMS  

    Geoff in Middlesbrough: "I have got a really good feeling about today. The Germany defence is weak as Ghana proved when they opened them up on several occasions. As long a we keep Ozil (does anyone else think he looks like Beaker from the muppets?) quiet I predict a comfortable 2-0 win with a Rooney screamer and a goal from a c orner from Terry or Upson."

  64. 13:31 Commentary  

    Some of the England players are first out on to the Free State Stadium pitch in Bloemfontein to have a look around. They include James Milner, Michael Carrick and Michael Dawson.

  65. 13:33 Commentary  

    Golfer Martin Kaymer donned a Germany shirt for the final hole of the BMW International Open in Munich today, kissing the badge after holing out on the final green. The cheeky putter escaped a fine from the tournament director.

  66. 13:36 Commentary  

    For England, this day has been a very long time in coming. It is 44 years since they beat West Germany in the World Cup and since then it has not been much fun playing their old rivals. In 1970, they threw away a two-goal lead to go down 3-2 in the quarter-finals, in 1982 a 0-0 second group stage draw helped knock England out and send West Germany into the semis, while in 1990 Bobby Robson’s brave boys were denied a place in the final by a heartbreaking penalty shootout defeat.

  67. Twitter  

    Fifa president Sepp Blatter: "Leaving for Bloemfontein for the next chapter in a match which has created World Cup history - 66, 70, 90 and 2010."

  68. Contributor BBC Sport's James Pearce  

    On Twitter: "I've filmed video inside stadium. Lots of English flags flying."

  69. 13:43 Commentary England legend Michael Owen:  

    "If I was in the England team on Sunday, I would take inspiration from the memory of Munich. But I would also realise that the first goal will be so, so important. I know there is loads of history between England and Germany, but that will not affect the players on Sunday. Half the squad will not even remember 1990.”

  70. 13:45 Commentary Germany legend Jurgen Klinsmann:  

    "We are talking about an England team that, when they are up to it and have reached their capabilities, is an outstanding team. Just look at the players, they have players who can really make a difference. They will give us a big fight on Sunday."

  71. 606  

    From wildsnooker: "Ozil is being over hyped by non-English fans. I don't fear him at all. England have this won. We are better, and I am adament we will get a 90-min result."

  72. 13:48 Commentary  

    Confirmed England team: David James, Glen Johnson, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Ashley Cole, Gareth Barry, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, James Milner, Wayne Rooney, Jermain Defoe.

  73. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Graham Taylor  

    "I am in total agreement with Fabio Capello for picking the same team."

  74. 13:51 Commentary  

    Our friends from Infostrada Sports have come up with a gem once more. Here it is: England goalkeeper David James has conceded five penalty goals in regulation for England, and two have been missed. He has not physically saved any of the seven in total. He also faced seven penalties in the Euro 2004 shootout v Portugal - six were scored and one put over the bar by Rui Costa. So in total, he has faced 14 penalties in an England shirt - 11 scored, three off target and none actually saved.

  75. 13:53 Commentary Germany v England line-ups:  

    Germany: 1-Manuel Neuer; 16-Philipp Lahm, 3-Arne Friedrich, 17-Per Mertesacker, 20-Jerome Boateng, 13-Thomas Mueller, 6-Sami Khedira, 7-Bastian Schweinsteiger, 10-Lukas Podolski, 8-Mesut Ozil, 11-Miroslav Klose.
    England: 1-David James; 2-Glen Johnson, 15-Matthew Upson, 6-John Terry, 3-Ashley Cole; 16-James Milner, 4-Steven Gerrard, 8-Frank Lampard, 14-Gareth Barry; 19-Jermain Defoe, 10-Wayne Rooney.
    Referee: Jorge Larrionda (Uruguay).

  76. 13:56 Commentary Germany v England team news:  

    So, England are unchanged for the first time in Fabio Capello's 28-game reign. Germany bring back Miroslav Klose for the injured Cacau, while Jerome Boateng and Bastian Schweinsteiger recover from knocks to take their places in Joachim Loew's starting XI.

  77. Twitter  

    From sEgApRaTt: "Seems the Germans are truly wary of the English this time, I still think it'll be a close contest though. Lagos is expectant."

  78. 14:00 Commentary  

    The not-so-secret predo of Nathan Stevenson:
    (aged three and three-quarters)
    Germany 0-1 England

  79. 14:03 Commentary  

    Whatever happens, it’s destined to be a day that none of us will ever forget. In 10, 20, 30, 40 years from now, people will talk about the time Germany and England met in the World Cup in Bloemfontein. History is about to be written, legends are about to be born - and you can watch and listen to it all on BBC One and BBC HD, BBC Radio 5 live and the BBC Sport website (UK only).

  80. SMS  

    Jez in Fulham: "Just pulled out my 5-1 commemorative England shirt - was it really nine years ago we thrashed them? If Rooney breaks his duck early doors I think Germany could be in for another hammering. Fingers crossed."

  81. Contributor BBC Sport's Alan Shearer  

    "For the first time since I retired four years ago, I'm desperate to get back out and play today. It's so much easier playing in these games than watching them, it'll be horrible when it starts."

  82. Contributor BBC Sport's Alan Hansen  

    "Whenever I watch Per Mertersacker play, I always think he's got a mistake in him. If Wayne Rooney and Steven Gerrard can get in and around his feet, who knows? If Rooney plays like we know he can, England are in business."

  83. 14:12 Commentary England captain Steven Gerrard:  

    "This is a game where you have to stand up and be counted. When you are growing up, it is the stage you want to be playing at. There could be a big moment in the game that can define any player's career. But you look forward to it. It is a fantastic game to play in. Everyone is excited."

  84. 14:14 Commentary Germany captain Philipp Lahm:  

    "All I can promise is the team who will be stepping out on Sunday will be mentally well prepared and knowing how to play brave and attacking football. But, for us, matches of the past do not play such a major role. We know the English players have good qualities, we know perfectly well that they play the opposite to kick and rush."

  85. 606  

    From jonnysteamboat: "On paper England have a much better team, the problem lies mentally. This is where England can fail, but the team seem to have avoided the England-Germany hype and seem to be focused on winning a football match. England have some great experience and a huge amount of desire. Rooney will shine today."

  86. 14:20 Commentary  

    I cried myself to sleep in 1990 when my hero Stuart Pearce missed and my favourite England team of all lost in the semis, I had my heart broken again six years later when another shootout did for Psycho and the boys at Euro 96, and I celebrated with ecstasy as England thumped Germany 5-1 in Munich nine years ago. I know you don’t expect me to be 100% impartial at all times today, but I will do my utmost to bring you unbiased coverage of proceedings from Bloemfontein. It means a lot to everyone, doesn’t it?

  87. 14:22 Commentary German tennis legend Boris Becker:  

    "I can't believe you guys got so excited about a group match against Slovenia. Back home, we don't even start watching until the knockout stages. And don't count on us missing a penalty - it only happens once every 28 years. I guess it's going to be the same old story."

  88. SMS  

    Nick at Queen Charlotte Hospital: "My girlfriend has gone into labour! Thankfully with all the gas and air that she is on I don't think she will notice if I sneak out to the pub to watch the game!"

  89. 14:26 Commentary Germany v England stats:  

    - Germany have reached the last eight in every World Cup they have competed in since 1938.
    - England have never won a knockout match against a former world champion on foreign soil.
    - Germany have the best penalty shootout record in World Cups.
    - England have the worst penalty shootout record in World Cups.
    - Stats mean absolutely nothing on days like today.

  90. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Chris Waddle  

    "Germany are a very confident side even though they are very young, and whoever wins will need a little bit of luck. We'd love this game to be further on in the competition, but it's an amazing game to play in and it'll be a tight affair. Let's get it decided in normal time."

  91. Twitter  

    From mcrabb60: "(See 14:00) If his predo is correct, can Nathan do the live commentary for the quarter-final?"

    Haha. I'll see what I can do.

  92. 14:33 Commentary  

    Everyone’s got an opinion on this one, and some of those opinions are a bit surprising. I asked German football journalist Christian N├╝rnberger about their playmaking sensation Mesut Ozil, and he told me the 21-year-old’s major fault is that he "cannot sort his head out in time" when he gets into the opposition penalty area. "In my opinion, Ozil is too phlegmatic. I wouldn't call him lazy, but he doesn't have the energy and the fight of, say, a Wayne Rooney," said N├╝rnberger.

  93. Contributor BBC Sport's Alan Shearer  

    "You know as well as I do Gary, that one goal can just set you off, and we hope that is what happens with Wayne Rooney today."

  94. 606  

    From manfrombelmonty: "This is what it's all about. Even though I'm Irish I've got goosebumps all over and my heart is pounding. Games just don't get any bigger. This just has to be a cracker."

  95. 14:39 Commentary  

    Remember, this match is live on BBC One, BBC HD, BBC Radio 5 live and the BBC Sport website (UK only). On the telly right now, they are talking a lot about penalty shootouts.

  96. Contributor BBC Sport's Harry Redknapp  

    "Fantastic atmosphere and the England fans are winning that battle. I think today is the day when we will see England come and play, there are some outstanding players in this team. Let's not let Mesut Ozil dictate the play and let's hurt them."

  97. 14:44 Commentary  

    Play your part in the drama that is about to unfold. Sends texts to 81111 (UK) and +44 7786200666 (worldwide), tweet me @ Stevo_football and join the chat on 606.

  98. 14:46 Commentary England coach Fabio Capello:  

    "To go forward you have to beat all the teams. Germany is one of those teams, not more. I respect Germany but I think also Germany respect us. The players look strong and we did well in training, just like we did before Slovenia. Everything is really good and for this reason I have a lot of confidence in my team."

  99. 14:48 Commentary Germany coach Joachim Loew:  

    "England is always England. It's team with a lot of fighting spirit and very strong mentally, with incredible experience. The axis with John Terry, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard and Wayne Rooney has the highest quality you can find in European football."

  100. Contributor BBC Sport's Alan Shearer  

    "For me, I think a hugely important battle is James Milner down the right against Jerome Boateng - I think Milner can cause them all sorts of problems."

  101. 14:53 Commentary  

    The teams emerge from the tunnel at the Free State Stadium in Bloemfontein, led out by referee Jorge Larrionda of Uruguay and captains Philipp Lahm and Steven Gerrard. I feel a bit cold.

  102. 14:56 Commentary God Save the Queen:  

    "God save our gracious Queen,
    Long live our noble Queen,
    God save the Queen:
    Send her victorious,
    Happy and glorious,
    Long to reign over us:
    God save the Queen."

  103. 14:57 Commentary  

    This is why the World Cup is the greatest show on earth. We're on the brink of kick-off.

  104. SMS  

    Alex in Berlin: "At the big fan mile in front of the Brandenburg Gate cheering on England. Great atmosphere, England fans completely outnunbered. Hopefully it will be more subdued here later on!"

    Er, what did you expect?!

  105. Contributor BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty  

    "A superb atmosphere inside the Free State Stadium as the teams come out - despite rows of empty seats at one end. Mystifying. England's players have talked a good game in the build-up, claiming confidence has been reassembled by the win against Slovenia.

    "They have overwhelming superiority in terms of support around this arena - now they must back the words with actions to prolong their stay in South Africa."

  106. 15:00 KICK-OFF Germany v England  

    Germany and England's last-16 World Cup clash is under way in Bloemfontein. Here we go.

  107. Contributor BBC Sport's Mark Lawrenson  

    "England have to set the tempo here, otherwise they might be beaten to it."

  108. 2 mins Commentary  

    Ashley Cole goes in hard and fair on Thomas Mueller and wins the throw too - England have got most of their players a settling early touch here.

  109. 3 mins Commentary  

    Good sheparding out of play from Gareth Barry down the England right after Lukas Podolski threatened. An early touch for Mesut Ozil, but Matthew Upson went in quickly to close him down.

  110. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Chris Waddle  

    "It is going to take a while for these teams to settle down, but you have got to say England have a lot more experience in their side."

  111. 5 mins Commentary  

    Sloppy from England. A ball over the top down the right catches Ashley Cole out and Mesut Ozil is through, but the angle is tight and his shot is well saved by the legs of David James.

  112. 7 mins Commentary  

    Both teams look a bit nervy, lots of heavy touches in the early stages. Meanwhile, apparently I used the wrong verse of the Germany national anthem, for which I'd like to apologise. No offence was intended.

  113. 9 mins Commentary  

    England captain Steven Gerrard plays a Hollywood pass out to the right, but it's miles ahead of James Milner. Wayne Rooney is showing signs of being sharper today after eight games without a goal for his country.

  114. 10 mins Commentary  

    Mesut Ozil tries to play a cute pass inside John Terry for Lukas Podolski, but it's easily cut out by Terry. Both teams giving it away too easily at the moment.

  115. 11 mins Commentary  

    An England attack breaks down and Germany counter with pace as Lukas Podolski leads the charge, but he is selfish and his left-foot shot from 22 yards is blocked - he had better options up alongside him.

  116. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Graham Taylor  

    "One person I'm concerned about is Ozil - he is getting too much freedom in the middle of the field for my liking."

  117. 13 mins Commentary  

    Ashley Cole goes in hard and fair on Thomas Mueller and it takes the Germany winger a few moments to get back to his feet. Cole has shown good aggression early on.

  118. SMS  

    From Andy in Sydney: "It’s going to be a big Sunday night in Sydney this evening. I have taken the day off from work tomorrow and the bosses are letting everyone come in later in the morning. Come on England."

  119. 17 mins Commentary  

    It's just waiting to catch fire, this one. There are some nice exchanges of passes without anything stunning happening. One such decent move for Germany ends with Sami Khedira ballooning a left-foot shot miles over from 25 yards.

  120. Contributor BBC Sport's Mark Lawrenson  

    "They are just a bit too final ball Hollywood at the moment, England."

  121. 18 mins Commentary  

    Decent England attack now and Bastian Schweinsteiger fouls Frank Lampard 30 yards out.

  122. 19 mins Commentary  

    Frank Lampard's free-kick thunders into the Germany wall and seconds later Wayne Rooney uncharacteristically gives the ball away.

  123. 20 mins GOAL Germany 1-0 England  

    That's among the worst England defending I've seen at a World Cup, I'm gobsmacked. Manuel Neuer's goalkick sails over John Terry's head and Miroslav Klose shows great strength and coolness to hold off Matthew Upson and poke past David James. Klose could have gone down there and Upson would have been sent off, but he bagged his 50th international goal instead.

  124. Contributor BBC Sport's Mark Lawrenson  

    "You might see a goal like that on every Sunday league pitch in England. I don't know what they were doing."

  125. 24 mins Commentary  

    Wayne Rooney runs into a little bit of space 30 yards out, but his right-foot shot is wide and wild and the Germans will take that all afternoon. A furious Fabio Capello is off the bench already, and no wonder.

  126. Contributor BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty  

    "Germany were marginally more comfortable in possession before that goal - but what will Fabio Capello make of England being undone by a long punt from Manuel Neuer? Matthew Upson did not react quickly enough and was then too feeble in his attempts to deal with Miroslav Klose. Poor, poor goal."

  127. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Chris Waddle  

    "You don't see goals like that unless you play pub football on a Sunday morning. That was just a huge punt down the middle of the field by the keeper - what were the two centre-backs doing? Give Klose credit, he didn't give up on the chase but what a terrible goal to give away."

  128. 25 mins Commentary  

    Better from England as they work it down the right and the ball falls for Gareth Barry 30 yards out - he hits a decent left-foot shot, but it's comfortable low down for Manuel Neuer.

  129. 606  

    From PotentPotables: "I honestly think Rooney should stay up front and wait for service. His constant roaming in midfield has rendered him ineffective. He just can't do everything by himself."

  130. 29 mins Commentary  

    England are having more of the ball, but their shape isn't very good - Wayne Rooney is dropping too deep, and James Milner is wondering over to the left. They seem to be panicking a little at the moment, but there's no need to, there's plenty of time left in the game.

  131. 31 mins Commentary  

    What a save from David James. Germany attack with gusto and Thomas Mueller plays a pass into the area for Miroslav Klose, but his goalbound right-foot effort is brilliantly blocked by James.

  132. 32 mins OFFSIDE  

    Jermain Defoe heads a Glen Johnson cross against the crossbar, but the Spurs striker is flagged for offside so it wouldn't have counted.

  133. 32 mins GOAL Germany 2-0 England  

    England's defence is an absolute shambles. Germany attack down the right and one clever flick from Miroslav Klose tees up Thomas Mueller. With England's central defenders nowhere to be seen Mueller plays it over the top to Lukas Podolski and from a tight angle on the left of the six-yard box, he smashes low past David James. Stunning finish, and England are suitably stunned.

  134. 35 mins Commentary  

    James Milner whips in a cross from the England right and from the edge of the six-yard box Frank Lampard's poacher effort is brilliantly kept out by Manuel Meuer's right hand. Cracking save.

  135. 36 mins Commentary  

    Germany are causing a problem every time they attack - this time a corner causes Gareth Barry and Matthew Upson all sorts of problems and Miroslav Klose is only denied by some last-ditch defending after a smart turn. England are in danger of being embarrassed.

  136. 37 mins GOAL Germany 2-1 England  

    Now it's Germany's turn to self-destruct. Steven Gerrard flings a cross over from the England right and with Manuel Neuer all over the place, Matthew Upson rises imperiously to head into the empty net.

  137. 38 mins HITS THE WOODWORK  

    This is incredible. You know 1966? Well apparently, what goes around comes around. Frank Lampard hits a shot from outside the area, it beats Manuel Neuer, bounces off the underside of the bar and bounces about two feet over the line. It isn't given. It's almost unbelievable.

  138. 41 mins Commentary  

    Is your heart pounding? I think mine's about to explode. The England fans are berating the referee - Jorge Larrionda and his linesmen might have a lot to answer for at the end of this game.

  139. Contributor BBC Sport's Mark Lawrenson  

    "It's an amazing sport, isn't it? England looked dead and buried, and now they are in charge of the game. Capello needs to use what just happened at half-time."

  140. Contributor BBC Sport's Guy Mowbray  

    "The more you look at the replay of that ball that was over the line, the more incredible it gets."

  141. 44 mins Commentary  

    England are buzzing around now, playing some good stuff. They must be fuming about the goal that wasn't given - they all knew it was in.

  142. 45 mins INJURY TIME  

    We're into one minute of stoppage time in Bloemfontein.

  143. 15:46 HALF-TIME Germany 2-1 England  

    Uruguayan referee Jorge Larrionda picks the ball up and the boos ring out from the England fans in the crowd.

  144. Contributor BBC Sport's Mark Lawrenson  

    "Whoever scores it, it's embarrassing for the sport when that happens. I cannot believe we don't have technology in football still."

  145. Commentary Fifa general secretary Jerome Valcke on 6 March:  
  146. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Chris Waddle  

    "Germany should have put the game beyond doubt, they could have been 3-0 or 4-0 up. But, if England can keep this tempo up, then I can see them getting back into this game."

  147. Contributor BBC Sport's Alan Hansen  

    "You will never, ever see two centre-halves in a worse position than when Germany scored their first goal, I promise you."

  148. SMS  

    From Ezi: "England have just been robbed by an inattentive linesman and it is very unfortunate. Was he sleeping or what?"

  149. Contributor BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty  

    "England have sufffered a grave injustice - although Germany might say what comes around goes around, even if it takes 44 years. Sorry, if a linesman cannot make a call as obvious as that he has no place in a game of this magnitude.

    "Fabio Capello's side can at least take solace from the fact that they ended the half in charge after looking like they were going to be cut apart as Germany went two up. England made Germany look vulnerable in those closing stages, so there is still hope.

    "England's defending must improve, though, or they will ship more goals. Germany too fast and too mobile when running at them."

  150. 15:58 Commentary  

    By the way, Fifa president Sepp Blatter, the man who is so desperate to stop the introduction of goalline technology, is at the Free State Stadium in Bloemfontein.

  151. Contributor BBC Sport's Alan Shearer  

    "There is a chance England could go out of the World Cup because of a terrible decision and that is totally, totally wrong."

  152. 16:01 Commentary Germany 2-1 England  

    Every World Cup has defining games, and we are right in the middle of one of them now. We're back under way in this last-16 clash.

  153. 48 mins YELLOW CARD  

    I wonder what Fabio Capello will have said at half-time. I guess, like Sven-Goran Eriksson in 2002, we'll find out in the course of time. England start the second half a little better and Arne Friedrich is booked early on for going through Jermain Defoe.

  154. 49 mins Commentary  

    Steven Gerrard cuts in from the England left, but the Liverpool star drags a right-foot shot wide from 20 yards.

  155. Twitter  

    From LBisaTwit: "Every time we've leaked a goal, Terry has been off to "mark" Ozil - they need to keep their shape. Simple."

  156. 51 mins Commentary  

    England are gently pressing Germany back from midfield. The referee gives Wayne Rooney a soft free-kick - is he trying to even it up a little bit?

  157. 52 mins HITS THE WOODWORK  

    My word. Frank Lampard really gets hold of a free-kick from 30 yards and Manuel Neuer almost seems to leave it - he is a very relieved man to see the ball crash back into play off his crossbar.

  158. 54 mins Commentary  

    Every time England go forward there's a huge buzz around the Free State Stadium, but Germany still look dangerous every time on the break.

  159. 56 mins Commentary  

    Germany build up patiently down their right and Sami Khedira's slide rule pass is only a fraction too strong for Thomas Mueller. The way England are defending, they might have to score a couple more just to take it to extra-time.

  160. 58 mins Commentary  

    Germany captain Philipp Lahm tries to pass back to the keeper and suddenly it seems like Jermain Defoe is in - but Manuel Neuer does really well to race off his line and thwart the danger. Moments later, Steven Gerrard shoots wide from range again.

  161. 59 mins Commentary  

    Our friends at Infostrada Sports tell us that Germany have played 30 previous World Cup matches in which they took a 2-0 lead. They have won 29 of them and lost one: in the last 16 round in 1938 against Switzerland (2-4). That is 72 years ago.

  162. 60 mins Commentary  

    England's defence parts like the red sea once more as Thomas Mueller fools John Terry and runs towards the edge of the box, but his toe-poked right-foot shot drifts wide of David James's left-hand post.

  163. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Graham Taylor  

    "It's noticable in this half that Gareth Barry is hanging back, allowing Frank Lampard to get forward more."

  164. 61 mins Commentary  

    England play it nicely from left to right and Wayne Rooney tees up James Milner inside the area - his right-foot strike is blocked bravely by Jerome Boateng, who is hoping to join his brother, Ghana's Kevin-Prince, in the last eight.

  165. 63 mins Commentary  

    Jermain Defoe is brilliantly tackled by Arne Friedrich on the edge of the Germany area, before Bastian Schweinsteiger slams a right-foot shot goalwards from 30 yards that whistles wide of the England goal.

  166. 64 mins SUBSTITUTION  

    James Milner gets a good hand from the England fans as he makes way for Joe Cole.

  167. 606  

    From D-Gooner: "The game has finally lived up to expectations - what a game it has been so far!"

  168. 67 mins GOAL Germany 3-1 England  

    That's an absolute disaster for England. A Frank Lampard free-kick from 25 yards is blocked and Gareth Barry loses the ball - from then on, it's about Germany breaking with pace. They get forward quickly, Bastian Schweinsteiger plays a perfect pass for Thomas Mueller and inside the area, on the right, he fairly smashes it off the body of David James and into the net.

  169. 69 mins Commentary  

    John Terry's had a nightmare today - he mis-kicks a clearance on the edge of his own area and Thomas Mueller slices wide with his right foot.

  170. 70 mins GOAL Germany 4-1 England  

    Joe Cole crosses from the England right, the cross is blocked, and then it's all about Germany's pace again. Gareth Barry is one-on-one with Mesut Ozil and frankly it's no contest, Ozil races past him, glides effortlessly into the area and taps a cross along the six-yard box for Thomas Mueller to whack in. It's like taking candy from a baby.

  171. 72 mins SUBSTITUTION  

    Emile Heskey has come on for Jermain Defoe and Germany take Thomas Mueller and Miroslav Klose off and send on Piotr Trochowski and Mario Gomez.

  172. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Alan Green  

    "We're told the referee, on seeing images of the Frank Lampard shot that crossed the line, said: 'Oh my God'."

  173. SMS  

    Chris, Somerset: "I sincerely hope we don't focus on the Lampard "goal" and instead look at the absolute disgrace this England team has been, embarassment."

  174. Contributor BBC Sport's Mark Lawrenson  

    "Ah well, there's always Wimbledon."

  175. 76 mins Commentary  

    So, England need three goals in the last 14 minutes plus stoppage time to force extra-time against Germany. The Germans are just keeping the ball now, England's ridiculously-titled 'Golden Generation' have gone.

  176. Contributor BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty  

    "England will complain long and hard about the bitter injustice of Frank Lampard's disallowed goal, with justification, but no amount of controversy should disguise how embarrassing they have been in parts of this game. True, England are chasing the game but the manner in which Germany have been too quick, too mobile and too intelligent is a chastening lesson for Fabio Capello to take away from this World Cup."

  177. 78 mins Commentary  

    You know, man for man, no-one will never, ever convince me that this Germany team has this much more ability in it than the England one. But the likes of Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard and Gareth Barry just haven't turned up. It's hard to fathom why.

  178. 80 mins Commentary  

    John Terry and Matthew Upson have been so poor today that Mario Gomez takes them both on, the German sub lashing his right-foot shot over the bar from an angle on the right. Defining game of the tournament? No. Defining game of some of these England players' international careers? Yes.

  179. 81 mins Commentary  

    England move it nicely and Steven Gerrard curls towards the far corner from 16 yards, only for Manuel Neuer to pull off a magnificent one-handed fingertip save.

  180. 83 mins Commentary  

    Mesut Ozil gets a well-deserved rest for the last few minutes as he comes off and is replaced by Stefan Kiessling.

  181. Twitter  

    From paulie: "England with old fashioned rigid 4-4-2, Germany with the modern, fluid 4-2-3-1. Capello, England are living in the past."

  182. 86 mins Commentary  

    If you're English, this hurts an awful lot. They haven't just been beaten by Germany, they have been comprehensively outplayed. We are doing nothing more than going through the motions in Bloemfontein.

  183. Contributor BBC Sport's Mark Lawrenson  

    "When they come away with England, something happens to these very good players. They play as a collection of individuals, not a team."

  184. SMS  

    From Iain: "Can someone just confirm that these England players are paid tens of thousands a week? Shameful. Worst England performance ever."

  185. 90 mins INJURY TIME  

    We're into injury time, and this really is adding insult to injury if you are an England fan. Just the two minutes, thankfully.

  186. 16:48 FULL-TIME Germany 4-1 England  

    Eins, zwei, drei your eyes, that's that at the Free State Stadium. I know it hurts, but this is not an England team anyone should be crying over. Congratulations to Germany, they were magnificent.

  187. 16:50 Commentary  

    Steven Gerrard is down on his knees, but there aren't any tears from the England players. Fabio Capello walks on to the pitch and then stands still, hands in pockets, looking like a man who has just been mugged. Frank Lampard chats away with Bastian Schweinsteiger.

  188. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Chris Waddle  

    "It's totally embarrassing. There were 20 minutes when England competed but Germany were the better team technically and tactically."

  189. Twitter  

    From andy_murray: "How on earth did the linesman and referee miss that?!Regardless of no technology, that mistake should never happen, worst mistake ever."

  190. Contributor BBC Sport's Alan Hansen  

    "I thought England were abysmal against Algeria and they were four levels below that today. Germany made England look like a very, very, very poor side."

  191. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Graham Taylor  

    "If we keep playing a 4-4-2 formation, we are never going to win the World Cup."

  192. Contributor BBC Sport's Lee Dixon  

    "That was the worst team performance and the worst back-four performance I've seen."

  193. 16:57 Commentary England manager Fabio Capello:  

    "It was very important for us to get that second goal. I don't understand why in this time of so much technology, we are still talking about this. I think we played well at 2-1, it should be 2-2, but then I was disappointed by the mistakes and they counter-attacked well. Germany is a big team and they played well - we made mistakes, but the referee made a bigger one. This is football."

  194. Contributor BBC Sport's Alan Hansen  

    "Fabio might struggle with his English, but he knows he's just said England played well and they didn't - they were hammered. The bottom line is they are lucky it was only four."

  195. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Chris Waddle  

    "Why don't the FA look at other countries and say 'how do they keep producing this talent?' Where is our Plan B? We haven't got one. The back four can't control the ball, can't pass, we lack so many ideas it's frustrating."

  196. 17:01 Commentary  

    So, I hear only the odd German ask, what's up for us next? Well, Joachim Loew's side will play the winners of this evening's game between Argentina and Mexico in the quarter-finals in Cape Town at 1500 BST on Saturday.

  197. Contributor BBC Sport's Simon Austin:  

    On Twitter: "Germany's system is set up to aid national team - winter break/home-grown player requirement/huge number of academies. England's isn't."

  198. Contributor BBC Sport's Harry Redknapp  

    "They opened us up and we couldn't get close enough to their best players. Frank's 'goal' was a terrible decision, but we still had the momentum at half-time - over the whole game, you'd have to say, they were much, much better than us, a way better team."

  199. Contributor BBC Sport's Garth Crooks:  

    "I'm in shock. I can't believe we've seen some of the best players in the world, performing on the biggest stage of the world, not performing at all."

  200. Contributor BBC Radio 5 live's Chris Waddle  

    "Germany play exactly like Bayern Munich, Schalke or Werder Bremen play every week - their international football is the same as their club game. The Premier League is 100 miles an hour, we can only play one way and it's poor. You can't win international trophies playing at 100 miles an hour."

  201. Contributor BBC Sport's Alan Hansen  

    "I would say one thing - it didn't matter what system England had played today, they played so badly they would have been beaten in any formation."

  202. Contributor BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty  

    "Only celebrating Germany fans are left inside the Free State Stadium. England's supporters are off to drown their sorrows after watching their team handed a painful lesson. We may never hear the last of Frank Lampard's "goal" that was shamefully missed by the officials, but England must not kid themselves or let one moment disguise their failings because they were cut up in embarrassing fashion by Germany at times.

    "This was a disappointing end to a disappointing World Cup campaign."

  203. 606  

    From who_dat: "Capello turned into Sven. I will only pick players in form, who are fit and play regularly, he said. Right, so he takes Upson, King, Carragher, Heskey, SWP. As soon as the squad was announced, England had no hope."

  204. 17:15 Commentary Germany hero Thomas Mueller:  

    "Against England you'll give up goal chances at some point, they have so many good players. We had some luck and took the lead. After we went 3-1 up, we improved and the match was soon over after that."

  205. 17:18 Commentary England captain Steven Gerrard:  

    "It's bitterly disappointing to go out of the World Cup and especially so to Germany. At stages in the game we were on top of them - at 2-1 down, I thought we'd go and win it 3-2, but at 3-1 it's game over. World Cup-wise, it's probably over for a few of us."

  206. SMS  

    From Andy: "I thought the English players were big match performers. They had four games and didn't turn up. We seriously need to look at the system yet again."

  207. 17:23 Commentary  

    That, I'm reliably informed, is England's biggest defeat at a major championship - World Cup and Euros. Germany, on the other hand, have now been involved in the last eight at every World Cup since 1954. What a record that is. Thanks to Infostrada Sports.

  208. 17:25 Commentary Germany's Miroslav Klose:  

    "We were aggressive from the first minute and it was a deserved victory. Our target was to reach the semi-finals and that's what we want to achieve."

  209. Twitter  

    From mattcouchman: "This whole tournament surely has to go down as one of the most disastrous ever? It's been embarrassing from the start."

  210. 17:30 Commentary  

    I think I'll leave you to the Great British summer. Sorry if that ruined your afternoon, but hey, on the bright side at least it didn't go to penalties. Enjoy your evening - just don't mention the four. See ya.

By Phil McNulty, chief football writer in Bloemfontein

England's World Cup ended in a mixture of humiliation and controversy as they were thrashed by Germany in Bloemfontein.

Germany's deserved win and convincing victory margin will be overshadowed forever in the minds of Fabio Capello and his squad by a moment they believe robbed them of the hope of reaching the last eight.

Matthew Upson had thrown England a lifeline just before half-time after a vastly superior Germany had taken a stranglehold on the game with goals from Miroslav Klose and Lukas Podolski.

But moments after Upson's header, in a grim echo of Geoff Hurst's goal that helped England to victory over West Germany in the 1966 World Cup final, Frank Lampard's superb lofted finish landed feet over the line behind German keeper Manuel Neuer, an incident obvious to almost everyone inside the Free State Stadium.

Capello was leading the England celebrations in his technical area, only to be stunned as Uruguayan referee Jorge Larrionda and his officials waved play on.

England's players and coaching team, including David Beckham, led vehement protests as the teams went off at half-time, but all to no avail and Germany made the most of their reprieve.

The Germans will feel a measure of justice has been restored 44 years on, but this was of no consolation to the modern-day England as insult was added to injury by Joachim Loew's gifted young side.

Lampard struck the bar as England dominated the early stages of the second half, but stunning counter-attacks saw Thomas Mueller score twice in the space of three minutes midway through the second half to send Germany into the last eight.

England, with some justification, will bemoan their luck but nothing must disguise the manner in which they were outclassed by Germany in stages of this game and also what has been an ultimately bitterly disappointing World Cup campaign in South Africa.

The brief hope of revival offered by victory against Slovenia that saw England advance to the knockout phase was snuffed out emphatically here by their old World Cup adversaries as they suffered their heaviest defeat at a major championship.

England paid the price for sloppy defending that gifted Germany goals - with central defenders John Terry and Upson having their immobility exposed in embarrassing fashion.

Wayne Rooney will return home having had minimal impact on the World Cup, and Capello himself must examine how England can move forward after being handed this painful lesson by Germany.

Capello chose to keep faith with Upson - but the defender was the central figure in a moment of defending that was almost indescribably bad as Germany took the lead after 20 minutes.

Germany keeper Neuer's long clearance was routine, but both Upson and Terry were caught out of position, with the West Ham defender compounding his misjudgement by being brushed aside for Klose to stab home.

England keeper David James, who had earlier saved well from Mesut Ozil, prevented England from falling further behind with a crucial block from Klose as he raced clear, but it was only a temporary reprieve as Germany extended their lead 12 minutes later.

Again England were all at sea defensively, with Podolski left with time and space to score from an angle after Klose and Mueller carved them wide open.

England needed a swift response to at least have some hope of mounting a revival, and it came from Upson as he made amends for his earlier error. He beat the flailing Neuer to Steven Gerrard's cross to head into an unguarded net.

Then came the moment of huge controversy that will haunt England and Capello for years to come. Even from high in the stands at the Free State Stadium, it was clear Lampard's audacious chip had travelled well over the line behind Neuer, but as Capello celebrated, England were stunned to find play waved on.

Lampard's ill-luck continued as England made a purposeful start the second half. He fired in a free-kick from 25 yards, but it rebounded off the bar with the static Neuer beaten.

The danger was always that Germany would strike on the counter attack, and they did to deadly effect as Mueller reopened their two-goal advantage after 67 minutes.

From and England free-kick Gareth Barry lost possession on the edge of Germany's area, allowing them to sweep to the other end for Mueller to fire past James from Bastian Schweinsteiger's pass.

And it was all over three minutes later, with Barry at fault again. He failed to deal with a clearance near the touchline, letting in Ozil to provide Mueller with a simple finish.

England had nothing left to offer and their World Cup campaign ended with a whimper - although they will complain bitterly about the moment they will feel had a decisive effect on the outcome of the game.

Germany Germany Flag 4-1 England Flag England FT

(HT 2-1)

Klose, 20
Podolski, 32
Muller, 67, 70
Upson, 37






  • Venue: Free State Stadium
  • Referee: J Larrionda
  • Attendance: 40,510
Germany     England
  • Possession 49%
  • Attempts on target 9
  • Attempts off target 6
  • Corners 4
  • Fouls 7

Projected table based on current scores

Group A

Group A teams P W D L F A GD PTS
Uruguay 3 2 1 0 4 0 4 7
Mexico 3 1 1 1 3 2 1 4
South Africa 3 1 1 1 3 5 -2 4
France 3 0 1 2 1 4 -3 1

Group B

Group B teams P W D L F A GD PTS
Argentina 3 3 0 0 7 1 6 9
South Korea 3 1 1 1 5 6 -1 4
Greece 3 1 0 2 2 5 -3 3
Nigeria 3 0 1 2 3 5 -2 1

Group C

Group C teams P W D L F A GD PTS
USA 3 1 2 0 4 3 1 5
England 3 1 2 0 2 1 1 5
Slovenia 3 1 1 1 3 3 0 4
Algeria 3 0 1 2 0 2 -2 1

Group D

Group D teams P W D L F A GD PTS
Germany 3 2 0 1 5 1 4 6
Ghana 3 1 1 1 2 2 0 4
Australia 3 1 1 1 3 6 -3 4
Serbia 3 1 0 2 2 3 -1 3

Group E

Group E teams P W D L F A GD PTS
Netherlands 3 3 0 0 5 1 4 9
Japan 3 2 0 1 4 2 2 6
Denmark 3 1 0 2 3 6 -3 3
Cameroon 3 0 0 3 2 5 -3 0

Group F

Group F teams P W D L F A GD PTS
Paraguay 3 1 2 0 3 1 2 5
Slovakia 3 1 1 1 4 5 -1 4
New Zealand 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3
Italy 3 0 2 1 4 5 -1 2

Group G

Group G teams P W D L F A GD PTS
Brazil 3 2 1 0 5 2 3 7
Portugal 3 1 2 0 7 0 7 5
Ivory Coast 3 1 1 1 4 3 1 4
North Korea 3 0 0 3 1 12 -11 0

Group H

Group H teams P W D L F A GD PTS
Spain 3 2 0 1 4 2 2 6
Chile 3 2 0 1 3 2 1 6
Switzerland 3 1 1 1 1 1 0 4
Honduras 3 0 1 2 0 3 -3 1

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