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Europa League as it happened


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By Jonathan Stevenson

2214: And that, ladies and gentlemen, is stumps. Hope you enjoyed the various tangents Thursday 26 August took us off into - don't forget Mr Sam Patrick Lyon will take you through the draw for the group stage of the Europa League on Friday from about 1130 BST, and Sam's here for the Premier League action this weekend too. Until we meet again.

2211: Here's the funky Europa League Macca with his closer: "Oh what a night. Add Karpaty Lviv, Juventus, Napoli, Palermo and Lille to the list of teams going through to group stages of the Europa League. Dinamo Zagreb and Porto look likely to join them, while Fenerbahce v PAOK Salonika has gone to extra-time."

Group A: Inter Milan, Werder Bremen, TOTTENHAM, FC Twente

Group B: Lyon, Benfica, Schalke, Hapoel Tel Aviv

Group C: MANCHESTER UNITED, Valencia, RANGERS, Bursaspor

Group D: FC Barcelona, Panathinaikos, FC Copenhagen, Rubin Kazan

Group E: Bayern Munich, AS Roma, FC Basel, CFR Cluj

Group F: CHELSEA, Marseille, Spartak Moscow, MSK Zilina

Group G: AC Milan, Real Madrid, Ajax, Auxerre

Group H: ARSENAL, Shakhtar Donetsk, SC Braga, FK Partisan

2205: It's time to wheel out the Champions League groups again...

From jonnysimples on Twitter: "Any word from the boys at Infostrada on if Ricky van Wolfswinkel is the best named player in all European competitions?"
Got to be, hasn't he? Along with Alanzinho and Rodrigues Jadson

2158: The telly people are trying to do post-match analysis on the pitch at Villa Park, but the noise reverberating around the stadium from the Rapid Vienna fans is making their lives very difficult indeed. Stunning supporters, that lot.

From Charlie, London via text: "Re: AshHumby - all the MON haters are somewhere still remembering losing 7-1 to Chelsea last year and being knocked out by the same team at the same stage last year. Same results mate."
Well, Chelsea aren't Newcastle, but take your point

Aston Villa caretaker-manager Kevin MacDonald: "We gave away three silly goals, we got reckless and untidy and it's very disappointing defending that has cost us. We played well up to a point but these things happen in football."

2153: There are some games still going on in the Europa League, so you might want to check the latest scores or monitor the vidiprinter to find out what's going on.

From NotaViking on 606: "Time to phone Bob Bradley."

From AshHumby on Twitter: "Where are the MON haters now? He was the best thing that ever happened to Villa and results prove that. We're in BIG trouble."

Aston Villa's Stiliyan Petrov: "We had enough chances to win the tie and it's just unacceptable. We worked so hard last season to get into Europe and we blew it today. We need to improve all over the park, we're not doing things right. Everyone who takes a penalty needs to score and I missed one. It's be nice to know who's going to be manager of the club."

2141: So to clarify, Liverpool and Manchester City will be in the hat for the draw for the group stage of the Europa League when that takes place at 1200 BST in Monaco on Friday. However, Aston Villa, Celtic, Motherwell, Dundee United and TNS have all exited the competition this evening.

2138: Full-time Birmingham 3-2 Rochdale

Full time
2136: Full-time Aston Villa 2-3 Rapid Vienna (agg: 3-4)
It seems increasingly unlikely now that Kevin MacDonald will become Villa's full-time manager after a horror four days which have seen them thrashed 6-0 at Newcastle and dumped out of Europe.

Full time
2134: Full-time Manchester City 2-0 FC Timisoara (agg: 3-0)Couldn't have been a whole lot easier for the hosts as they cruise into the group stage of the Europa League. And Joe Hart still hasn't conceded a goal this season.

2133: Into injury time at Villa Park and Eastlands, with the two sets of fans going through very contrasting emotions at the moment.

From wakkalfc on 606: "Can't see A Young staying with Villa now, regardless of whether he is cup-tied or not he ain't playing in Europe again this season. I expect him to go to Spurs."

2128: Nothing really happening at Man City, the hosts are just seeing out the final few moments. Villa's fans and players are getting increasingly agitated as their looming exit draws ever closer. This competition doesn't seem to do dull, does it?

2126: Europa League Macca: "Celtic's miserable evening is over. They've lost 4-0 and that's it for Europe and Neil Lennon's men this season. TNS have gone out with a tad more pride, earning a 2-2 draw with CSKA, who go through 5-2. Lille have taken the lead on the night and on agg against FC Vaslui. Hulk has scored for Porto, who lead 4-1 on agg against Genk."

Dale goal: The 33-year-old Gary Jones has only gone and scored his second of the night for Rochdale as he fires in from 12 yards to set up an anxious finish for Birmingham.

Rapid goal: This has gone all sorts of wrong for Villa - they now need two to go through. Rapid attack with pace and skill once more down the right and from Christopher Trimmel's cross, sub Rene Gartler arrives at the far post to steer into the net. The Austrians have gone wild.

2123: GOAL Aston Villa 2-3 Rapid Vienna (agg: 3-4) (Gartler)

2123: GOAL Birmingham 3-2 Rochdale (Jones)

Rapid goal: And they say lightning doesn't strike twice... A day short of a year after being dumped out at this stage of the Europa League by Rapid, Villa could be going through it all over again here. A corner from the right is flicked on and Mario Sonnleitner's header beats Brad Guzan's despairing dive. As it stands, Rapid are through.

2120: GOAL Aston Villa 2-2 Rapid Vienna (agg: 3-3) (Sonnleitner)

Villa goal: Football, eh? Minutes after missing an absolute sitter and seconds after letting the ball roll calamitously under his foot, Emile Heskey scores for Villa - though he didn't know much about it. Habib Beye's shot flies towards the far post and it hits Heskey in the chest and goes in.

2118: GOAL Aston Villa 2-1 Rapid Vienna (agg: 3-2) (Heskey)

2116: Europa League Macca: "It's now TNS 2-2 CSKA. The Welsh side look like going out but with a bang. Maccabi Tel-Aviv and PSG have had some fun tonight, sharing seven goals but it's the French side that progress 5-4 on agg. Alessandro Del Piero has given Juve the lead against Sturm Graz, the Italian giants are 3-1 up on agg. Steaua Bucuresti have beaten Grasshoppers 4-3 on penalties and Lech Poznan are also through."

Someone has won a penalty
2114: MISSED PENALTY (Stiliyan Petrov, Villa)
Good Lord. Villa eventually do get their spot-kick as Emile Heskey goes down under a challenge from Mario Sonnleitner inside the Rapid box, looks a bit harsh to me, but defender booked. Stiliyan Petrov steps up and his weak kick is saved by Raimund Hedl to his right, with Heskey embarrassingly tapping the ball into the ground and over the bar from the rebound six yards out. That was useless.


2111: Boos echo around Villa Park as Ashley Young goes down under a challenge from Markus Katzer inside the Rapid area and Dutch referee Eric Braamhaar waves their appeals away. It was a strong challenge, but penalty would've been harsh.

2109: Rapid are having a pretty decent spell and after Steffen Hofmann is played into space down the right, he can only find Brad Guzan with his clipped cross from the byeline, much to Atdhe Nuhiu's dismay. Moments later, Villa's James Collins glances a Marc Albrighton cross wide.

From Murtini on 606: "The Rapid fans are amazing, haven't stopped singing since the game kicked off."

2104: Europa League Macca: "Dundee United's European adventures have ended as they lose 2-1 on aggregate to AEK Athens. Celtic look like following them as well as Utrecht make it 4-0 on the night (4-2 on agg) through Barry Maguire. Better news for TNS who now lead CSKA 2-1, but still trail 4-2 on agg. Maccabi Tel-Aviv are making a game of it against PSG. Getafe are through, so are German pair Stuttgart and Bayer Leverkusen. It's 0-0 between Juventus and Sturm Graz (Juve lead 2-1 on agg). Gent have come from behind to knock Feyenoord out, having lost the first leg a 2-0 win has taken them through."

2102: So close for Villa. Emile Heskey sends over a fine low cross from the right that a Rapid defender half cuts out and it kind of hits Nigel Reo-Coker before rolling just wide of the far post.

Man City goal: Moments after Emmanuel Adebayor has a shot saved, City double their lead on the night against the Romanians. David Silva whips over a corner from the right to the back post, where Dedryck Boyata is on hand to nod into the net.

2100: GOAL Manchester City 2-0 FC Timisoara (agg: 3-0) (Boyata)

Blues goal: Yep, that's that. Seb Larsson gets away down the Birmingham right and his low cross is met by Matt Derbyshire, who wins a tangle with the goalkeeper and sees the ball trickle over the line for his first Blues goal.

2057: GOAL Birmingham 3-1 Rochdale (Derbyshire)

Rapid goal: We're back to all-square on the night in the Midlands and we are very much all-square on aggregate too. Veli Kavlak twists and turns down the Rapid right and eventually sends over a brilliant cross to the edge of the six-yard box, where Atdhe Nuhiu is on hand to thump a header past Brad Guzan.

2054: GOAL Aston Villa 1-1 Rapid Vienna (agg: 2-2) (Nuhiu)

Blues goal: Hmm, looks like we might have lost our Carling Cup shock. A Birmingham corner is headed back across goal by Roger Johnson and there is David Murphy to slam a half-volley into the roof of the net.

2052: GOAL Birmingham 2-1 Rochdale (Murphy)

From InfostradaLive on Twitter: "Ricky van Wolfswinkel scores the first ever hat-trick for FC Utrecht in all European competitions."

2047: Back under way at the City of Manchester Stadium and Villa Park in the Europa League.

From 2BLI2 on Twitter: "'Can Roy Hodgson repeat his heroics from last season?' The heroes were, and still are, the Fulham players."
He's as much a hero as any of the players. You think last season would've happened with another manager?

2044: Europa League Macca: "Celtic's night is going from bad to worse as tricky Ricky van Wolfswinkel has completed his hat-trick to put Utrecht into a 3-2 agg lead. Dundee Utd have given themselves a lifeline through Jon Daly's late goal - they are still 2-1 down on agg. Motherwell are 1-0 down, trailing 3-1 on agg. Aris Salonika are through, as are Metalist Kharkiv, Hajduk Split, Debrecen, PSV and Levski Sofia. Getafe are leading Apoel Nicosia in extra-time, while Grasshoppers and Steaua Bucharest are level in their overtime period."

Liverpool boss Roy Hodgson: "I thought we were a bit unlucky with their early goal, but we got over it and played quite well and we should have had the game sewn up long before we did. They are a very good team, they don't lose at home and we beat them at home, so it's a very good result."

2039: Oh, and of course Man City haven't signed Gabby Agbonlahor. I mean where on earth would they even play him?

2037: Oops, went a bit crazy with those goal graphics. If you refresh your page, you should see the half-time ones instead. Though maybe Europa League Macca's got some goal chat worthy of a picture or two...

Liverpool's Dirk Kuyt: "A lot of people have said a lot of things about my future, but for me it is at Liverpool. I like it here at the club and I want to stay here and win things."

Half time
2033: Half-time Manchester City 1-0 FC Timisoara (agg: 2-0)
It's a bit more comfortable for City, who lead 2-0 in the tie now thanks to that Shaun Wright-Phillips goal just before the break. They are nowhere near their best, but they don't need to be.

Half time
2031: Half-time Aston Villa 1-0 Rapid Vienna (agg: 2-1)
Question is, is Gabby Agbonlahor's 40-minute cameo enough for Villa? They lead on the night and in the tie, but it's still a precarious lead for Kevin MacDonald's side.

Liverpool's Jamie Carragher: "It was very tough, they are a very good side. They made a great start, but we showed great character and concentration in a difficult atmosphere and it's a very good result."

Man City goal: That makes it a little more comfortable for Roberto Mancini's boys. Patrick Vieira plays a slide-rule pass inbetween two Timisoara defenders and Shaun Wright-Phillips sneaks in to fire home from 14 yards. Nicely worked goal from the home side.

2027: GOAL Manchester City 1-0 FC Timisoara (agg: 2-0) (Wright-Phillips)

2025: Gabriel Agbonlahor's first appearance of the season for Aston Villa has lasted 40 minutes and seen him score a goal that could earn them a place in the Europa League group stage. Gabby picked up a knock 10 minutes or so ago and is taken off, with Marc Albrighton on in his place.

2024: Some action at Man City, finally. David Silva's cross from the left finds Jo whose header from six yards is tipped over by 6ft 8in Costel Pantilimon. From the resulting corner, Micah Richards' header is cleared off the line. Moments later Emmanuel Adebayor surges into the area and fires a low angled shot two yards wide.

From redforever on 606: "Good to be through, but we have looked very poor tonight, regardless of Gerrard and Torres being missing. The play has been slow, laborious and predictable and in defence we have looked very vulnerable. Poulsen, I will try to be fair and say he hasn't found his range and Lucas is what he is. If Mascherano goes to Inter, I would take Cambiasso in the deal. Pacheco should play every game."

Full time
2021: Full-time Trabzonspor 1-2 Liverpool (agg: 1-3)
Job very much done for Liverpool as they leave it late to secure their progress into the group stage of the Europa League. Can Roy Hodgson repeat his heroics from last season?

Blues goal: Rochdale's lead lasts barely two minutes as Matt Derbyshire goes over in the box and James McFadden dispatches the penalty. BBC Radio 5 live's reporter at the game reckons the decision was a tad harsh.

Reds goal: That really does wrap it up for Roy Hodgson's side. Joe Cole sees his shot saved by Onur Kivrak, but the ball comes loose to Dirk Kuyt and the Dutchman slots in from close range. Game very much over, crowd very much silenced.

2015: GOAL Trabzonspor 1-2 Liverpool (agg: 1-3) (Kuyt)

2014: GOAL Birmingham 1-1 Rochdale (McFadden pen)

Dale goal: We have a potential League Cupset on our hands at St Andrews, as Rochdale take the lead midway through the first half through skipper Gary Jones with a shot from inside the box.

2012: GOAL Birmingham 0-1 Rochdale (Jones)

Reds goal: There are goals that change games, and there are goals that win them - this goal has taken Liverpool into the group stage of the Europa League. Glen Johnson does really well down the right and his cross is right into the mixer of the six-yard box, where Giray Kacar can only put it into his own net. Trabzon now need to score twice, and there ain't long left.

2010: GOAL Trabzonspor 1-1 Liverpool (agg: 1-2) (Kacar)

2010: Twenty minutes in and it's 0-0 between League One side Rochdale and Premier League Birmingham in the Carling Cup. Lee Bowyer hit the bar early on for the hosts but since then Rochdale have looked comfortable.

2009: Half a chance for Mircea Axente at Eastlands, the FC Timisoara man nearly stunning the hosts by slamming a shot into the side-netting after bustling his way into the Man City area.

Villa goal: That's just what the doctor ordered for Villa. Steven Ireland sends Ashley Young scampering away down the right and his excellent low cross to the near post is turned in by Gabriel Agbonlahor for his first of the season in his first appearance.

2006: GOAL Aston Villa 1-0 Rapid Vienna (agg 2-1) (Agbonlahor)

2005: Liverpool send on promising 19-year-old Daniel Pacheco for Fabio Aurelio. Just under 15 minutes left of normal time in Turkey, but extra-time and penalties as we stand.

2003: Aston Villa's Ashley Young curls over a free-kick from 25 yards and Raimund Hedl dives away to his right to parry the ball away.

From Andy, N Wales, via text: "Hi Stevo, I've recently graduated with a 1st class honours degree in mathematics and I'm currently looking for a job. Can I have yours?"
You could barely be any more over-qualified, mate

1959: Please don't forget there is a separate live text for the Scottish teams tonight. I will happily tell you all night, but some of the messages we're getting are ridiculous. No, we don't hate Scotland - we love it so much we gave it its own page!

1957: Action. Europa League Macca: "Two Ricky van Wolfswinkel penalties have levelled things up for Utrecht against Celtic. It's 2-2 on agg now. TNS were losing 1-0 against CSKA but it's now 1-1 thanks to Matty Williams, but the Welsh side trail 4-1 on aggregate. No such worries for Besiktas as they complete their stroll at HJK Helsinki with a 7-0 agg win. Lausanne Sports have beaten Lokomotiv Moscow 4-3 on penalties. PSV Eindhoven have nudged their necks in front against Sibir Novosibirsk 3-0 on the night (3-1 on agg). PSG are looking good for the group stages as they are 1-0 ahead at Maccabi Tel-Aviv (3-0 on agg). Yanick Djalo's 90th-minute goal looks to have completed a fine turnaround for Sporting, who lead Brondby 3-0 (3-2 on agg)."

1955: Villa have had the better of it so far, but Rapid do look dangerous on the counter. It's a very quiet start at Eastlands, no chances of any note at the moment.

1951: Liverpool have definitely improved since the break, it's much more even now in the Huseyin Avni Aker Stadium. Even the locals have piped down. A fraction.

From LFCfan128 on 606: "That missed penalty by Cole in the first leg looks more and more important."

1947: They are under way between Aston Villa and Rapid Vienna too, with Gabriel Agbonlahor put through early on by Ashley Young and the striker testing keeper Raimund Hedl.

1945: They are under way at the City of Manchester Stadium between Man City and FC Timisoara - refresh your page and you will see local radio commentary (UK only) appear in the top right-hand corner of your page. Meanwhile in Turkey, David Ngog drives a shot just wide from the edge of the box.

From Craig, west midlands, via text: "Good strong team for the Villa. Will be interesting to see how good MacDonald is at motivating."

1940: What a chance for Liverpool. Joe Cole stands up a lovely cross to the far post and with the goal gaping, David Ngog can only head wide from about six yards. Shocking miss from the Frenchman.

1937: Burak Yilmaz latches on to a pass and is flagged offside - from the replays, that is about as close a call as you could get. He slams wide anyway, but had he already heard the whistle? Trabzon have started better after the break too.

Les Roopanarine reports:
"A callow Aston Villa side claimed a creditable 1-1 draw at the Gerhard Hanappi Stadium in the first leg, tipping the odds in their favour tonight. Yet the form book suggests this is a far from straightforward assignment. On Sunday afternoon, while Rapid Vienna were cruising a comfortable 2-0 win over Mattersburg, Villa were tumbling to a 6-0 defeat at Newcastle. How will the English side respond to that crushing reversal? Kevin MacDonald, who was appointed caretaker-manager following Martin O'Neill's resignation, says he is unsure he wants the Villa job permanently. Tonight's result will go some way towards determining whether he has the luxury of choice."

1933: We are back under way in Turkey and the player with the best name in Europe has come on at the break for Trabzonspor: Alanzinho.

Les Roopanarine reports:
"Kevin MacDonald, Aston Villa's caretaker-manager, names a strong line-up which includes eight changes to the side humbled at St James' Park on Sunday. Brad Guzan returns in goal, while the Villa defence consists of Carlos Cuellar, James Collins, Curtis Davies and Habib Beye. Nigel Reo-Coker starts in midfield, while Gabriel Agbonlahor returns in attack alongside Emile Heskey. For Rapid Vienna, first-leg scorer Atdhe Nuhiu ploughs a lone furrow up front in a 4-2-3-1 formation."

Aston Villa:
Guzan, Davies, Collins, Cuellar, Beye, Reo-Coker, Petrov, Ireland, Ashley Young, Agbonlahor, Heskey.
Subs: Friedel, Albrighton, Delfouneso, Lichaj, Bannan, Clark, Hogg.
Rapid Vienna: Hedl, Dober, Sonnleitner, Soma, Katzer, Heikkinen, Pehlivan, Kavlak, Hoffmann, Saurer, Nuhiu.
Subs: Payer, Patocka, Kulovits, Salihi, Gartler, Hinum, Trimmel.
Referee: Eric Braamhaar (Holland)

Saj Chowdhury reports:
"Despite being worlds apart when it comes to finances, infrastructure and the quality of squad, Timisoara hold only a 1-0 deficit going into their Europa League second leg tie against Manchester City. The Timisoara coach Vladimir Petrovic said: 'We have never been favourites and after the first leg it has become even harder for us.' He's correct. I expect another one of those 6-0 results."

1926: Birmingham make eight changes from the team that beat Blackburn as striker Matt Derbyshire and midfielder Enric Valles make their club debuts. Michel also comes into the side along with fellow midfielder Lee Bowyer. Rochdale midfielder Andrew Tutte replaces Joe Thompson in their only change from the weekend defeat by Colchester. Defender Josh Thompson is on the bench.

1925: Birmingham v Rochdale line-ups:
Taylor, Fahey, Johnson, Dann, Murphy, Valles, Bowyer, Michel, McFadden, O'Connor, Derbyshire.
Subs: Foster, Larsson, Gardner, Jerome, Ferguson, Zigic, Redmond.
Rochdale: Lillis, Wiseman, Dawson, Holness, Widdowson, Jones, Kennedy, Barry-Murphy, O'Grady, Elding, Tutte.
Subs: Edwards, Redshaw, Done, Goodall, Akpa Akpro, Andre, Josh Thompson.
Referee: Mick Russell (Hertfordshire)

From Sam, Taunton, Somerset via text: "Tell you what, a World Cup in Turkey would make for interesting viewing!"

1922: You know there's a Carling Cup second round match tonight too, don't you? Yep, Birmingham take on Rochdale at St Andrew's to complete the line-up for the third round. Will endeavour to keep you informed on proceedings from the Midlands, of course.

Saj Chowdhury reports:
"Jo and Emmanuel Adebayor lead the Man City line, with first-leg goal-hero Mario Balotelli injured and Carlos Tevez on the bench. England winger Shaun Wright-Phillips and veteran midfielder Patrick Vieira come into the midfield, with Gareth Barry and Yaya Toure named among the substitutes. Timisoara make two changes, with Ovidiu Burca and Ioan Mera coming in."

1918: Europa League Macca: "Bate Borisov join the boys in the next round. Elsewhere, Sporting, 2-0 down from the first leg, have pulled one back at Brondby. PSV Eindhoven have levelled up their tie against Sibir Novosibirsk just before half-time, while Slovan Bratislava have done likewise after nine minutes of their game at Stuttgart. Tavriya Symferopol have taken the lead at home to Bayer Leverkusen, but trail 1-3 on agg."

Half time
1917: Half-time Trabzonspor 1-0 Liverpool (agg: 1-1)
A difficult match on a difficult pitch in a difficult stadium against a difficult team in difficult conditions - this would be a very good game for Liverpool to win. As it stands, we're going to extra-time and penalties.

Yellow card
1913: The Turks have had two players booked in the last few moments, Ceyhun Gulselam for a foul and Burak Yilmaz for a dive, which he was devastated about. Lucas shoots tamely at Onur Kivrak in a rare Liverpool attack.

1911: There isn't a live commentary on BBC Radio 5 live this evening, but there is a special programme on Manchester City with interviews with football administrator Brian Marwood, manager Roberto Mancini and defender Micah Richards. Should be worth a listen if you fancy it.

It's raining
1909: By the way, if you've been feeling blue recently about the shambolic British summertime weather, it's absolutely chucking it down in Turkey at the moment. The Trabzon fans don't seem to care too much.

Man City:
Hart, Richards, Kompany, Boyata, Zabaleta, Wright-Phillips, De Jong, Vieira, Silva, Adebayor, Jo.
Subs: Given, Cunningham, Lescott, Toure Yaya, Barry, Tevez, Adam Johnson.
FC Timisoara: Pantilimon, Burca, Luchin, Mera, Sepsi, Contra, Bourceanu, Alexa, Curtean, Axente, Magera.
Subs: Taborda, Poparadu, Scutaru, Tames, Chiacu, Goga, Zicu.
Referee: Manuel de Sousa (Portugal)

From happyfritz789 on 606: "Can someone come up with a "World Cup theme song" for Crouchy and the lads to get them in the mood for the next World Cup, cheers!"
If K'Naan and Shakira didn't work, nothing will

1903: Glen Johnson scores for Liverpool but he is flagged offside from David Ngog's pass, the correct decision. Decent move from the Reds, though.

From rioferdy5 on Twitter: "Rangers, Valencia, and Bursaspor... decent draw eh..."

1900: Crikey o'blimey, some games have finished already. Here's Europa League Macca: "Club Bruges, Villarreal and Borussia Dortmund are all safely through to the next stage. Lokomotiv Moscow grabbed a late leveller against Lausanne Sports to send their game to extra-time, while AZ Alkmaar survived a late fright - and two late goals - to edge past FC Aktobe 3-2 on agg."

Spurs striker Peter Crouch on the Champions League theme tune: "It's such an amazing tune, isn't it? You stand there and the hairs on the back of your neck stand up and all the crowd get going. When you hear that music, you realise you're playing the biggest competition in the world."

1856: Fabio Aurelio spanks a shot comfortably wide from the edge of the Trabzon box. Whistles every time Liverpool get the ball, and they are loud, too.

1854: Liverpool just haven't got going at all in Turkey and they should be 2-0 down. Captain for the night Ibrahima Yattara sneaks in at the back post to head a free-kick wide from five yards, woeful miss. As it stands, don't forget, we are going to penalties.

From InfostradaLive on Twitter: "Antonio Valencia will play against Valencia in this season's Champions League after Man Utd were drawn with the Spanish club in Group C... Chelsea have been drawn against Zilina in Group F, their 1st ever opponents under owner Roman Abramovich back in 2003."

1849: The referee has a chat with a Trabzon official - the problem is that a green laser is being shone in the direction of Pepe Reina. Find the culprit, ban them from attending football forever.

1847: Trabzon are causing all the problems and after Ibrahima Yattara's shot is deflected wide by Jamie Carragher, Gustavo Colman's effort from the edge of the box is parried away by Pepe Reina.

From nanaloa2001 on Twitter: "Is this the beginning of the end for Liverpool?"

1843: As promised, there is an entirely separate live text going on as I type these here words for the Scottish teams in Europa League action this evening, with Thomas McGuigan bringing you the latest from the Dundee United, Celtic and Motherwell ties. Which means stay here if you want to know how Welsh side TNS get on as they seek to haul back a 3-0 deficit against CSKA Sofia.

From Mark Namanya, Kampala, via text: "Partizan Belgrade have a new player, Nestroy Kizito, who is set to make history by becoming the first Ugandan to play in the Champions League. He is quite a decent left full-back but lacks pace and I'm afraid Theo will roast him home and away."

1837: Lively start in Turkey - and the fans have just raised it another level too. Trabzonspor are hogging the ball, Liverpool can't get it off them.

Trabzon goal: I know Roy Hodgson says this competition isn't his priority, but he won't be pleased with that start. Dirk Kuyt gives the ball away and after Gustavo Colman screws his shot across goal, the Reds defence is sleeping and Colombian Teofilo Gutierrez reacts quickest to stick it past Pepe Reina.

1834: GOAL Trabzonspor 1-0 Liverpool (agg 1-1) (Gutierrez)

From Mike in Saltaire, via text: "I think Spurs have got quite a tough draw. That's fab. Bring it on. If you want to be the best you have to measure yourself against the best."

1831: Under way between Trabzonspor and Liverpool.

1829: "YOU ARE ALONE HERE" reads a banner from the Trabzonspor fans - tell you what, they do lovely welcomes don't they, Turkish supporters? Only about 20,000 inside the Huseyin Avni Aker Stadium, but they are making one hell of a racket. Teams are out, we're gonna start shortly.

Mandeep Sanghera reports:
"Facing a Turkish side on home territory is a tricky task at the best of times so to have to do it without most of you major stars only adds to the difficulty. That is basically the task facing Liverpool as they prepare to enter the expectant hostile atmosphere Tranzonspor fans will create with the Reds only holding a narrow 1-0 first leg lead in this Europa League qualifier. At least Joe Cole, who is only banned on the domestic front, can play for Liverpool."

1823: Back to our friends at Infostrada Sports, then - the hardest working people in football facts and figures. They have worked out the probability of the English clubs progressing tonight, based on the Euro Club Index, of course (with their rating in brackets):
Trabzonspor (99) 10% v Liverpool (nine) 90%
Aston Villa (29) 75% v Rapid Vienna (89) 25%
Man City (21) 97% v FC Timisoara (131) 3%

From 1878onwards on 606: "Yet another trip to Turkey for Utd... anybody would think that we like the place. Best of luck to Spurs on your journey."

From marrakoosh on Twitter: "United fan - happy with draw, Rangers is an easy one, Valencia not so tough. I also reckon Liverpool to lose 2-1 tonight..."

From David Wanjiru, Thika, Kenya via text: "The Arsenal group looks too easy to be true, considering we could just as easily have drawn Real Madrid, Ajax and FC Twente. I'm deeply suspicious. And knowing our propensity for arrogance when the opposition is weak on paper, I'm worried for us."

1813: Europa League Macca: "On to tonight's action and Club Bruges look like they will be in the group stages as they lead 3-0 at Dinamo Minsk, 5-1 on aggregate. Villarreal did fall behind early on but have levelled against Dnepr Mogilev and a 5-0 first-leg advantage means they lead 6-1 on agg. AZ Alkmaar lead 1-0 (3-0 on agg) at FC Aktobe and Lausanne Sports are 1-0 (2-1 on agg) ahead at Lokomotiv Moscow."

Mandeep Sanghera reports: "Liverpool
are missing Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres, Javier Masherano, Milan Jovanovic, Daniel Agger and Maxi Rodriguez but Joe Cole is back. He starts along with Fabio Aurelio, Sotiris Kyrgiakos, Martin Kelly and Christian Poulsen. There's been plenty of speculation about Dirk Kuyt's future and he is also in the side as David Ngog gets the nod ahead of Ryan Babel to lead the attack. Trabzonspor make two changes from the first leg loss as striker Ibrahima Yattara and defender Giray Kacar replace Umut Bult and Arkadiusz Glowacki."

Kivrak, Cale, Korkmaz, Kacar, Balci, Colman, Gulselam, Inan, Yilmaz, Gutierrez, Yattara.
Subs: Zengin, Baytar, Atas, Alanzinho, Badur, Jaja, Oztorun.
Liverpool: Reina, Kelly, Carragher, Kyrgiakos, Johnson, Aurelio, Lucas, Poulsen, Kuyt, Cole, Ngog.
Subs: Gulacsi, Pacheco, Babel, Spearing, Shelvey, Skrtel, Eccleston.
Referee: Ivan Bebek (Croatia)

1808: Now the reaction will keep on coming to that draw in Monaco, but just to mark your card that Trabzonspor v Liverpool in the Europa League starts at 1830 BST, so this live text is going to be a bit of a mixed bag for a while. Hope that's all good.

From LaOla on 606: "Well, Werder will definitely not have it easy. They are a "surprise bag" ("Wundertüte") as we say in German. They can play football from another star - or they can play worse than a youth team... I'm curious how they will show up in the group games."

From JonRidge on Twitter: "Lot's of people saying how pleased United will be with that. Not so sure, two national champions and Valencia? Tough group."

From Anon, via text to 81111: "Group G hardly looks impressive. I mean, they've only won the cup TWENTY times between them. They've been runners-up nine times, too."

1801: What I want from you now, and I'm fairly sure you'll do the business for me, is your thoughts on that draw. Pleased? Annoyed? Fancying a cheeky midweek trip somewhere? You don't have to support one of the British clubs, so the floor's all yours...

1759: That concludes the draw for the group stage of the Champions League (is it wrong I've always wanted to say that?)

Group H: ARSENAL, Shakhtar Donetsk, SC Braga, FK Partisan

Group A: Inter Milan, Werder Bremen, TOTTENHAM, FC Twente

Group B: Lyon, Benfica, Schalke, Hapoel Tel Aviv

Group F: CHELSEA, Marseille, Spartak Moscow, MSK Zilina

Group D: FC Barcelona, Panathinaikos, FC Copenhagen, Rubin Kazan

Group G: AC Milan, Real Madrid, Ajax, Auxerre

Group C: MANCHESTER UNITED, Valencia, RANGERS, Bursaspor

Group E: Bayern Munich, AS Roma, FC Basel, CFR Cluj

1751: Now then, time for Pot Four. That means we get this mob: Hapoel Tel Aviv, FC Twente, Rubin Kazan, Auxerre, CFR Cluj, Partizan Belgrade, MSK Zilina, Bursaspor.

From Jinadine on 606: "Just take a look at Group G so far. Can you have a "Group of Death" in the Champions League? All three teams are former champions."

1749: Uefa striker of the year: Diego Milito (Inter Milan)

From Andy, via text: "Just put a bet for Uefa striker of the year on Diego Milito. I stand to win £26 for a £25 stake."

1746: We're three-quarters of the way through now, and Diego Milit- I mean, er, the striker of the year is about to collect his award.

Group B: Lyon, Benfica, Schalke

Group G: AC Milan, Real Madrid, Ajax

Group H: ARSENAL, Shakhtar Donetsk, SC Braga

Group E: Bayern Munich, AS Roma, FC Basel

Group F: CHELSEA, Marseille, Spartak Moscow

Group A: Inter Milan, Werder Bremen, TOTTENHAM

Group D: FC Barcelona, Panathinaikos, FC Copenhagen


1740: It's time for Pot Three and these boys: Tottenham, Rangers, Ajax, Schalke, Basle, Braga, FC Copenhagen, Spartak Moscow.

From EmJayLambert on Twitter: "Anyone else think Milito might win striker of the year...?"

1737: Uefa midfielder of the year: Wesley Sneijder (Inter Milan)
There's definitely a theme emerging, here...

From BlueNWhiteArmy on 606: "Reunion for Eduardo, how this could come back to haunt Arsenal."

1735: We're halfway through and I've a funny feeling the Uefa midfielder of the year award might be just around the corner...

Group A: Inter Milan, Werder Bremen

Group F: CHELSEA, Marseille

Group D: FC Barcelona, Panathinaikos

Group H: ARSENAL, Shakhtar Donetsk

Group B: Lyon, Benfica

Group E: Bayern Munich, AS Roma

Group G: AC Milan, Real Madrid


1728: Here we go with Pot Two, and these boys: Werder Bremen, Real Madrid, Roma, Shakhtar Donetsk, Benfica, Valencia, Marseille, Panathinaikos. And GARY LINEKER'S STILL THERE!!

1726: Uefa defender of the year: Maicon (Inter Milan)

From Chris, via text: "Poor old Julio Cesar didn't have a clue what was going on. He didn't enjoy being up there and he got absolutely dominated by Lineker. That's the first English Champions League victory of the night..."

1724: That's the first part done and dusted, then. Well done Julio Cesar and well done Gary Lineker. Marvellous.



Group A: Inter Milan

Group B: Lyon

Group E: Bayern Munich

Group G: AC Milan

1719: I should have mentioned that helping Julio Cesar with this part of the draw is none other than England legend and BBC Sport presenter Gary Lineker.

Group D: FC Barcelona


1717: It's draw time...

1716: He's still chatting by the way, old Infantino. Julio Cesar looks a bit bored, but we're not far away. Nervous?

1714: Now we are in business as the superbly named Uefa general secretary Gianni Infantino takes the mic. That means important things are about to happen.

Spurs manager Harry Redknapp: "To bring those European nights back was great for the fans - and that is what it is all about really, the supporters, we have given them something to look forward to in the Champions League."

BBC Radio 5 live senior football reporter Ian Dennis in Monaco: "Tottenham's win last night was the difference between hardly making anything in the Europa League or at least £11m for getting in the Champions League group stages."

From jambags38 on Twitter: "Best group for Rangers (chances): Lyon, Panathinaikos, Hapoel. Best group (excitement): Chelsea, Real Madrid, Auxerre."

1708: Uefa goalkeeper of the year: Julio Cesar (Inter Milan)

From Mark, Reigate, via text: "Dream draw for Spurs? AC Milan, Shakhtar and and Cluj. A non-biased view from a Brighton fan hoping that one day I really will care about this draw."

1706: Yep, the 22 automatic entrants have been joined by the 10 lucky play-off winners to complete our line-up. Eighteen associations are involved, with Tottenham, MSK Zilina, Braga, Hapoel, Bursaspor and FC Twente making their Champions League group stage debuts. Interestingly, of last year's 32 competitors, only 12 have qualified once again.

1703: Ooh blimey, Pedro Pinto and Melanie Winiger are standing on the stage at the Grimaldi Forum in Monaco already. Oh it's fine, they're just showing highlights of last season's Champions League. As you were.

1701: Our friends at Infostrada Sports, have been in touch with some facts and figures about the draw, all based around their Euro Club Index:
i) Lyon (11) and AC Milan (15) are the lowest ranked Pot One teams
ii) Real Madrid (four) are the team to avoid in Pot Two
iii) The weakest team in Pot Two is Panathinaikos, who are ranked 39
iv) Tottenham (16) are the strongest team in Pot Three. Spartak Moscow (79) are the weakest
v) FC Twente (30) are the team to avoid in Pot Four. The lowest ranked are MSK Zilina (154)

1658: Please remember there is a separate live text on the Scottish teams in the Europa League tonight. I will keep telling you, though perhaps not often enough...

1656: It's all going off around Europe tonight, so here's Europa League Macca to keep us in the non-English teams loop: "A whopping 36 Europa League ties tonight and we'll attempt to keep you up-to-date with the main action and major attractions. Six games get us under way at 1700 BST, including 2002 Uefa Cup runners-up Borussia Dortmund taking a 4-0 first-leg lead to FK Qarabag."

From Paul, in the white half of N. London, via text: "The final is at Wembley, the year ends in 1 (well, two 1s to be exact)... it's surely set up for a Spurs v Arsenal final, isn't it?"

Pot Four: Hapoel Tel Aviv, FC Twente, Rubin Kazan, Auxerre, CFR Cluj, Partizan Belgrade, MSK Zilina, Bursaspor.

Pot Three: Tottenham, Rangers, Ajax, Schalke, Basle, Braga, FC Copenhagen, Spartak Moscow.

Pot Two: Werder Bremen, Real Madrid, Roma, Shakhtar Donetsk, Benfica, Valencia, Marseille, Panathinaikos.

Pot One: Inter Milan, Barcelona, Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Bayern Munich, AC Milan, Lyon.

1651: So, with the presumably needlessly grand ceremony just some French minutes away from kick-off inside the Grimaldi Forum in Monaco, who wants to know which teams are in which pot? Oh go on then...

From rawsheen on Twitter: "Chance of some tough groups, & the chance of really easy ones. Man U guaranteed to get Panathinaikos, Copenhagen & Bursaspor."

From Ed (Spurs fan), Battersea, via text: "Three teams in the top European competition from one city. A first? And a logistical nightmare."
Not a first, mate. In 2003/04, Athens had three - Olympiakos, Panathinaikos and AEK

1642: Right then, here's some sort of schedule for events this evening, though the draw time may not be exact (and, forget ye not, there will be a separate live text on the Scottish teams in the Europa League that starts at about 1830 BST):
1700 BST: Champions League group stage draw

Europa League:
1830 BST: Trabzonspor v Liverpool (agg 0-1)
1945 BST: Aston Villa v Rapid Vienna (agg 1-1)
1945 BST: Man City v FC Timisoara (agg 1-0)
1945 BST: Birmingham v Rochdale (Carling Cup)

From Patrick_in_NY on 606: "Man Utd v Real Madrid. Please, please, please, please."

1635: In many ways, the Champions League group stage draw is more entertaining than some of the games themselves. Discuss. Here's how: send us a text to 81111 (UK) and +44 7786200666 (worldwide); whack me a tweet @Stevo_football; and get stuck into the debate on 606 as well.

1630: Tonight's football involving British clubs doesn't start until 1830 BST, but it's a safe bet there'll be some interest in what comes to pass before then. Welcome to the draw for the group stage of the Champions League - and Tottenham fans, it's especially lovely to have you lot here.

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Europa Lge qualifying results

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  • AA Gent2-0Feyenoord
    FT (agg 2-1)
  • AEK Athens1-1Dundee UtdFT (agg 2-1)
  • Apoel Nicosia1-1Getafe
    FT (agg 1-2)
  • Aston Villa2-3Rapid ViennaFT (agg 3-4)
  • Aust. Vienna1-1Aris Salonika
    FT (agg 1-2)
  • Brondby0-3Sporting
    FT (agg 2-3)
  • Dinamo Minsk2-3Club Bruges
    FT (agg 3-5)
  • Dinamo Zagreb2-1Gyor ETO FC
    FT (agg 4-1)
  • Dnepr Mogilev1-2Villarreal
    FT (agg 1-7)
  • Elfsborg0-2Napoli
    FT (agg 0-3)
  • FC Aktobe2-1AZ Alkmaar
    FT (agg 2-3)
  • FC Metalist Kharkiv 2-2Omonia Nicosia
    FT (agg 3-2)
  • FC Porto4-2Genk
    FT (agg 7-2)
  • FC Utrecht4-0CelticFT (agg 4-2)
  • Fenerbahce1-1PAOK Salonika
    FT (agg 1-2)
  • FK Qarabag0-1Borussia Dortmund
    FT (agg 0-5)
  • Grasshoppers1-0Steaua Bucharest
    FT (agg 1-1) Steaua Bucuresti win 4-3 on penalties
  • HJK Helsinki0-4Besiktas
    FT (agg 0-6)
  • Juventus1-0SK Sturm Graz
    FT (agg 3-1)
  • Karpaty Lviv1-1Galatasaray
    FT (agg 3-3) Karpaty Lviv win on away goals rule
  • Lech Poznan0-0Dnipro
    FT (agg 1-0)
  • Levski Sofia2-1AIK Solna
    FT (agg 2-1)
  • Lille2-0FC Vaslui
    FT (agg 2-0)
  • Litex Lovech1-2Debrecen
    FT (agg 1-4)
  • Lokomotiv Moscow1-1Lausanne Sports
    FT (agg 2-2) Lausanne Sports win 4-3 on penalties
  • Macc Tel-Aviv4-3Paris SG
    FT (agg 4-5)
  • Man City2-0FC TimisoaraFT (agg 3-0)
  • Maritimo1-2BATE Borisov
    FT (agg 1-5)
  • Motherwell0-1Odense BKFT (agg 1-3)
  • NK Maribor3-2Palermo
    FT (agg 3-5)
  • PSV Eindhoven5-0Sibir Novosibirsk
    FT (agg 5-1)
  • Tavriya Symferopol1-3Bayer Leverkusen
    FT (agg 1-6)
  • The New Saints2-2CSKA Sofia
    FT (agg 2-5)
  • Trabzonspor1-2LiverpoolFT (agg 1-3)
  • U Urziceni1-1Hajduk Split
    FT (agg 2-5)
  • VfB Stuttgart2-2Slovan Bratislava
    FT (agg 3-2)

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