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Australia wake up and smell the kangaroo... Kick the queen out and have a good
day, mate.
Syed Tashfeen Bokhary, USA
I was in Oz during the Gough Whitlam episode, when those who had the power of
the Queen were able to depose a democratically-elected leader. That is an
achilles heel in the Australian system, more like a malignant growth,
something very bad to have in the system. The Poms should not have that
power.
If the people vote someone in, only they should be able to vote them out.
Keep her as a figurehead, if you must, but put constitutional power in the
people, and the people only.
Michael J. Carr, USA
I was born in England but believe that we (Australia) should become a Republic.
The Monarchy is an antiquated and maladroit system. The sooner this country
breaks its ties with England the happier most Australians will be. From my
observations, it is my mothers generation that desperately clings to the
Monarchy but then that was another and much different time. Come the next
millennium, this country will have an Australian as its Head of State.
Bill Archer, Australia
Australia should have its own non-political head of state and a new flag. I
favour (note the non-American spelling) maintaining close ties with UK through
remaining in the Commonwealth. Australia is independent enough to declare its
soveriegnity after 200 years of European settlement, much of which came from
countries with no close link to the Monarchy. The Monarchy can still be
revered etc by those with nothing better to do or say.
New Century, New Flag, New Australia
Patrick Kennedy, Australia
I believe the monarchy is anachronistic, and I can't believe the millions of
Greeks, Italians, Germans, Irish, etc. descendants want to have a queen from a
country thousands of miles away.
Nicola Maderna, Italian citizen living in UK
This would improve Australia's image as independent and sovereign democracy.
Murlidhar Gupta, Canada
I am a Senator in the Australian Federal Parliament and I strongly support the
conversion to republican status becayse I believe Australia should have an
institution for Head of State reflecting the democratic and egalitarian values
for which Australia stands.
The Monarchy is the very antithesis of these values based as it is on
hereditary principles and is a British rather than Australian institution
The republican concept is pro-Australian not anti-British and a republican
Commonwealth of Australia will remain in the British Commonwealth recognising
the Queen as its head, will still play cricket and enjoy friendly rivalry with
"the poms " in many things, but Australia is a diferent country with a
different set of national values and it is time we had our own Head of State.
Alan Eggleston, Australia
Within the next decade Australia's Anglo-Saxon population will be merely just over 50%, and a British head of state seems increasingly irrelevant. Our existing rights and freedoms have to be codified in writing and not left
as mere "convention," technically alterable by anyone in authority. It's time to formally recognise Australia's Aboriginal inhabitants and its non-British ones
who will most likely be calling the shots more as time goes on.
Jamie Horsfield, Australia
We did it in our country and we don't feel guilty. Australians need to have
their own identity, as the above flag suggests. It is original and symbolises
auntheticity. Be proud of yourselves. Why should the Queen be multi-headed?
Thanks and GOOD LUCK!!!!
Jessie Skosana, South Africa
How can Britain preach democracy, when it cannot practice it because of it's
shackles of the past. With it's rulers born in to privelage.
Peter Wood, Australia
Though born in South Africa of British parents I was educated in England and served in the Royal Marines from '44 to '47. Having lived in Australia now for 35 of my 71 years I believe that it is time to "let go of Mothers apron
strings" and forge our own future. There is no disrespect for the Queen in
fact many Australians admire her and particularly the Queen Mother. As long as we can have the constitutional protection that we have enjoyed since Federation I am for a Republic.
David Knight, Australia
If your nation asks you to fight and possibly die for it, what would you rather fight and die for? A)
The values laid down in a written constitution similar to that of the US(freedom of speech, expression separation of Church and State etc.) B) A
bunch of over-privileged layabout Germans who have never done an honest days work in
their lives. Abolish this absurd throwback to feudal times now!
Pete Coster, USA
I support the Australians in wanting an Australian to represent them as Head
of State. This is an office that should be the highest honour for an Australian,
not a member of the British Royal Family.
The office must be meritocratic. The drawback of a monarchy is you may have a
very bad monarch, such as Nicholas II (Russia) and occasionally a very good
one, Juan Carlos I (Spain) however ceremonial the position may be, you actually need someone who will understand his/her constitutional responsibilities.
Rafael Gutierrez, Mexico
From an Anglo/Australian family living in the USA. After Australia what about
the UK becomming a republic. I am sure one of the other nations who use the
same Queen will take her - New Zealand for example??
Barry Woodhams, USA
Although the UK has a lot to be proud of
it has to acknowledge that the British
government has consistently interfered
with other countries causing long
term damage in its various colonies.
The damage is still with us today
(just look at Ireland). And that's why
we now want to become a republic - to
dispense with that last symbol of British
colonialism. As a Scot you of all people should
understand that.
Elizabeth Henderson, Australia
Nothing personal, but we don't need her - nor do we want her. Only the over
sixties seem to care about her and the rest of the royals.
Elizabeth Deveny, Australia
The British Royal family has failed the Australians as a constitutional
institution. Rare visits and gratuitous and denigrating remarks about
Australia and Australians by the Prince of Wales have had the expected effect
a void which has to be filled by an Australian. No one underestimates the authority and respect Australians have for Queen Elizabeth II. This will continue after the Republic and she will always be welcomed there in her own right and as a Head of the
Commonwealth.
Marc Ellis, USA
One look at the antics of Bill Clinton and Co. will hopefully enlighten you on
how a steady influence the Queen really is....governments come and go, the
Queen is above all those.
Why don't you all (Australians and Britons alike) sleep on it for another,
say, 30 years or so? Denying history and legacies may be fashionable these days, but will it last? Be proud of the ties between your countries!
I think as far as the Queen goes the time
for all this debate was at the end of her reign
out of respect and decency if nothing else.
Finally, as for those pro Republican moaners
from Canada listed here - just you try to
change this country - the Queen is our Queen
and always will be so. If you have a problem
with that you are welcome to move due south
and join the rest of the rebels!..
Long live the Commonwealth family!
The Queen is an example to us all of of how a leader aught to behave, with a republican leader one can never be sure of his honesty and integrity. Leaders come and go with the Queen there is stability.
It is an unnecessary, futile exercise which will in the end change nothing in
substance but cost a lot of time and money! The Queen is only a symbolic head of state that yields no power in any country. For me personally however, the Queen symbolizes the United Kingdom, from where the traditions of democracy and rule of law come from. That's exactly the reasons why I left my native Hong Kong to live in Canada to remain to be Her Majesty's loyal subject.
Since why should she have to travel all that way to be insulted by them. They
have proved by their actions that they don't deserve her.
While I can understand the desire for pride in your country, I personally take
great pride in the Queen and all the rich tradition that is in our history and
see no problem in Canada finding it's place in the 21st century with the Queen
and all that entails.
Without Britain or the determination of its Royal family, there would be no
Australia to debate over. We only need look at the US and its current problems
with its head of state to know that Australia, while looking to the future,
should remeber, unlike the US,its past. God save the Queen!
I don't think Australians want a President just for the sake of replacing the
Queen! The Queen is a symbolic leader, with little or no real powers, so why not keep her, enjoy the historic link with Europe and get on with your daily lives?
Keep the queen!!! She adds value to an ever value-less society.
I think that the crown links that have bound together various commonwealth
countries are admirable and worth preserving. We have a president and,
given his behavior, having a head of state with the dignity and devotion to
duty of Elizabeth II, is a plus for a nation.
The monarchy is a beautiful for history, traditions and heritage. Australia
must, by no means, "cut out the union jack" from it's flag. The monarchy
strengthens the ties between Europe as a whole and Australia.
Not only should they keep her, the US should invite her back as well!
Australians should feel proud to be part of the UK
No, because they are British people living in former colony, and they maintain many other traditions and customs.
Yes, but can the single best element of the current arrangement (the political
independence of the head of state) be preserved in a replacement system?
That's the challenge.
As an American I am able to view this matter with a bit more objectivity as we
are not directly involved. If Australia wants a republic so badly then take
it, but they must remember once they've made their decision they can't turn
back. I personally don't believe it would be an intelligent thing to do. "One
should always be careful what they ask for....they may get it." On that point,
no truer words have been spoken.
The principal issues in the current debate are the powers of the Head of State and the method of appointment. The Governor General retains all those customary and unwritten powers of the
Queen, including that of dismissal - exercised in 1975. Codifying these powers seems an impossible task, simply because they are so imprecise. The "official"Republicans are opposed to codification because the consequent constitutional changes are unlikely to pass the necessary referendum.
If the Australians think they're being grown up and independent by becoming a republic, they should act their age and promise to cut air emissions like the
rest of us.
Eventually, yes, but not until there is a consensus or overwhelming majority
in favour, including of the details of the new system about the method of
selecting the new head of state, any changes in parliamentary procedures,
anything that is a change from present system. What is more important than
having the Queen as head of state or not is having a robust and widely
accepted system in all its detail.
Being an Ex patriot I can see things more neutrally. Australia are a mature
nation and should remove ties with the "Mother country" This ancient tradition is at an end along with the Empire. Time to move on to the 21st Century!
We should encourage this healthy distance
between the two nations - let's start by
granting less working visas to backpaking
Australians!
The current constitutional arrangements work wonderfully well. As an Australian, I feel no special attachment to the Queen, but as a pragmatist, I do not want to change something that works so well.
As the dawning of a new millennium draws near, the time for change has come. I think Rolfe Harris will make a wonderful Emperor for Australia!
The Queen as Australia's Head of State seems rediculous because of the
geographic separation, but clearly it is Australia's choice.
However, the Queen has done the UK a great service,
since otherwise we would probably have President Thatcher!
Australia must be careful not to ditch the constitutional monarchy
for a less desirable constitutional model. The biggest problem I see in the
American model is that the President fills two contradictory roles - as head
of state (which is apolitical) and a politician. The new arrangement in
Australia must safeguard the highest ideals and aspirations of the Australian people.
Perhaps the Eire model is a good example for Australia to work from.
I don't think that we are ready to become a republic but I also don't think
that we need the Monarchy forever - it is just not the right time to become a
republic in my opinion.
I have voted 'yes' because if that's what the people want then so be it. I am sure the queen would rather not reign over a country thousands of miles away whose population is hostile towards her. Britain gains no benefit from having this particular link with Australia. It is unfortunate that many Australians are using this issue as an excuse for a spot of pommie-bashing. I wonder if they realise the complete apathy most Britons feel towards the subject.
I am struck by the irony of calls to get rid of
foreign "power" and attain "freedom", when
all Australians have to do is agree what to
do next, and vote for it.
What is actually a simple ceremonial change
is being justified by some quite extravagant
and borderline dishonest rhetoric.
"This is like the American Revolution"? Bull.
It's more like what it is: a constitutional
amendment.
I agree with a number of the pro republican comments made by my fellow
Australians who have responded to your question. It's not a case of throwing
out the Queen, rather, it's a case of cutting the apron strings, being seen as
a grown mature country and being treated as an equal. No disrespect to Her
Majesty intended. I still love and respect my mother even though I'm an
adult, and have lived a separate life for 20 years.
Becoming a Republic will be the final step in the process of our country becoming a mature member of the world's community.
They should compromise - they should get rid of the monarchy, but they should
also keep their current flag and stay in the Commonwealth. Also, they should
have a Presidency on the Irish or German model, not on the American model.
As an Australian living in the USA, I find the whole flag/republic debate an insult. I now have the luxury of being on the outside and looking in. While Australia and its economy swirl down the toilet, a small group of loud mouths imagine that a new flag/president will cure Australia's sad situation.
No doubt the ring leaders of this vocal group imagine themselves going down in history as Founding Fathers (on some fantastic life long pay out). Ex-Prime Minister Keating used the flag/republic red herring to divert attention from his woeful performance as leader of the nation for years. Unfortunately, the latest crop of johnny come latelies seem to be the media's darlings.
The strength of the republican movement in Australia seems to me to be less of a sign of national maturity than of national insecurity. Perhaps triggered by the outside interference in Australian politics in the 1970s, or perhaps for other reasons, Australia seems to be looking, a little bit desperately, for a symbol that lets it say that it is its own country. And if republicanism does not sufficiently satisfy this urgent nationalism, what then?
If this is the decision of the majority of the people, then so be it.
Dame Edna for queen!
If Canada can live comfortably as a constitutional monarchy, why not
Australia?
It seems to me that some Australians' eagerness to ditch the Queen results
from a national inferiority complex. I can understand the desire for a new flag,
but why should Australia be so eager to sever the symbolic link to the nation
which is, after all, its mother country? Finally, I would suggest that any Australian who imagines that a republic and a president would be more flattering to the dignity of the nation should look to
Washington, D.C. I'd trade Bill Clinton for Prince Charles in a New York
minute.
Its seems a shame to me, that the people of Australia don't share the same
sense of history with the other Commonwealth countries that still support
the Queen (and not the Royal Family) as their Head of State. By keeping the Monarch, they are protected by an impartial final authority, than that from any elected or appointed person.
I am British and live in a republic. Perhaps the British system does not seem
totally logical to some who measure life in practical terms. But then their
logic is usually based on such mundane matters as economics and petty
self-interest. When nations are run under such practical terms the result is
often corruption and trivial political self-interest. Take a look around the
world Australia and count yourselves lucky to have a Queen under whom
no other sytem of government ever been matched.
I think that Australia should not severe
ties with the Monarchy. The monarchy is
a tradition that has been the principal
characteristic of the British Empire,
Commonwealth, and Culture. To cut these
ties would be a destruction of the
tradition that has existed in Australia
since its foundation. When the United
States separated from the rest of the
Empire it lost a great piece of tradition.
Australia would be doing the same none
the less.
I think that the ties to a "larger whole", as in the Commonwealth, can be a
very stablizing influence and can help people view problems and activities in
the whole world in a larger context.
It would be a denial of Australia's rich heritage if it left the
Commonwealth and her queen.
I am proud to have my country tied to such a positive and outward looking
nation as the Australians,
and I think that all members of the
commonwealth benefit from The Australians
sharing our queen.
To remove the monarchy would be unnecessarily divisive and a betrayal of
Australia's cultural and political heritage. If it is designed to win
acceptance for Australia in Asia then it is particularly ill-conceived: Asians
and their governments couldn't give a damm whether Australia is a monarchy or
a republic; it's the business and investment potential of the country that
counts first and last.
I think it would be a tragedy for the Australian people if Australia were to give up the monarchy.
A constitutional monarchy is the most stable system of government yet devised by man; the
Queen is also a vitally important symbol for unity in a world increasingly fraught by
divisions.
If it isn't broken don't fix it!
The present Westminster system of government needs an overhaul in Australia,
but we should maintain the link to the monarchy. We have a Governor General who
represents the Queen. I also believe that half of the Australian population
would not know who he is anyway. The flag is a big issue here and should be
changed to reflect a new world country similar to Canada. There is an
underlying bias to drop the monarchy, it is, I believe, inevitable that it
will go.
A country with so little history and tradition as Australia should not abolish
its only link to history.
First, Australia should dispense with the
monarchy - then we should follow suit.
As Denis Diderot said "Man will never be free
until the last king is strangled with
the intestines of the last priest".
The quicker we rid ourselves of the epitome
of state sponsored inequality the better.
The Queen has no more place to be head of state of Australia as Bill Clinton.
Australia need s to build better ties with Asian neighbours and relinquish it's
Commonwealth ties once and for all. Otherwise it will continue to go down
economically while its neighbours prosper at it's expense.
Well, I love Australia, and I think our relationship with the country will be
strengthened if they became a republic. It's just outdated post-empire
stuffiness - they're 13,000 miles away - what has the Queen got to do with
them?
The political status quo is fine but the head
of state should be Australian. In practice the Governor
General's role in Australia is largely to rubber stamp
legislation so the desire for change is not motivated by
"Pommie-bashing" lust but simply to internalise the entire
Australian political system, no hangovers and only
the loopholes Australia deserves! Just make sure it isn't
an American-style presidency. Please let's have someone
equally as useless as the Governor General.....
A mute point but has anyone considered that the Queen might wish to get rid of Australia ?
Time for a fair dinkum, true blue Aussie president.
Advance Australia the Fair! (Not God Save the Queen)
Australia should be allowed its own independance, and not have to be tied to
the House of Windsor's rule which is unfavourable to the people of Australia.
Give the Australians what they want.
In reply to Chris Gambon: We don't deserve a Queen either... Nobody does.
The usefulness of the monarchy is doubtful even for the United Kingdom so the decision for Australia should be simple...
Surely the Queen should speak up if she'd like to continue as Constitutional
Head of State in Australia. Yes, the Aussie's are debating her relevance and
role (if any), but what does she think? If she even wants the job, she should
say so. She is not above the issue, she's central to it at present, and as a
key player, she should be heard. Ultimately, Australians must decide, but
shouldn't she present her view?
The Queen as Queen of Australia and has never done anything to betray her
constitutional responsibilities. Placing the blame on Monarchy is simply not acceptable. The blame rests with 97 years of sloppy legislation [and sloppy spelling too!]. If we have to change, then why not abolish the office of Prime Minister - as the President could do that job..... and while we are moving towards making Politics more Customer Service responsive - have a look at reducing the vast government sector - politicians that is, not the poor people trying to get on with their work!
I think this has become more about so called "pommy bashing" rather than "should Australia remove the monarch". In recent weeks all I heard from Australians is how much more culturally diverse and vibrant Australia is over Britain but I have been living in Glasgow for the last 6 six after leaving Ireland and I believe that Britain is one of the most diverse and vibrant counties in the world ( that's what first attracted me to Britain) and I am now very proud to be able call myself a British citizen. I hope that issue in Australia does not become clouded by the fact that they have a rather distorted view of the UK.
Some of these comments are a bit odd. The Australians should do entirely as
they please, and furthermore they will. No-one in Britain can obstruct them,
or wants to, I think. The cliched demand that "the British should realize they no
longer have an empire" is laughable. It's a straw man, an attack on something
that doesn't exist. For those who think like this - it is YOU that cling on to
"Empire", as a convenient hook on which to hang some good old-fashioned
xenophobia. The British gave up on the idea a long time ago.
To the Australians:
I am an ex-Pom and have lived in Australia for 19 years, I have two children
and an English wife and take exception to the comment that Australia is taking
this opportunity to Pommie-bash. In all the years I have been here I have hardly ever seen or heard any Pommie bashing, and certainly there is no visible sign in the media here of it now
that we are moving to a Republic.
The fact that Australia is seeking to be a republic does not mean we think any
less of Britain or the monarchy. The vast majority of Australians admire and
respect the Queen. However, Australia is a multicultural society, and in a
time when reconciliation with Australia's Aboriginal population is of national
importance, it is appropriate that we rethink who our head of state is. We are
not out to "get rid" of the Queen, we are merely asking for a head of state
that will reflect the interests of ALL Australians.
I was born in Scotland and moved to Australia in 1965.
I have been back to Britain several times in the last few years and I find
myself classified as an Australian when I enter the country of my birth. So if
you regard me as Australian and not British. I think that Britain has already
divorced and annexed Australia. So it is about time we do the same.
If the vast majority of Australians are in favour of an a republic, then it
should realised. In Britain we are looking increasing eagerly across the Channel to Europe
(perhaps more so Scotland than England) to strengthen economic and cultural
ties with our neighbours. So we can hardly condemn Australia for seeing its
future associations involving other Asian countries rather than a distant
European island.
It's their country, their future, their choice.
Lucky to have her
Martin R Marsola, United States Of America
Anonymous, The Netherlands
Bill Rae, Canada
Anon, Canada
Tom Lau, Canada
JM, UK
William W. Stewart, Canada
Jonathan Bradshaw, United Kingdom
Steven Zuanella, USA
Jennifer Hoffman, USA
Frederick Cohen, United States
G Frilund, Finland
Martin Ornstein, USA
Bill Wilder, USA
Kenneth Chisholm, USA
Yes, but what's next?
Ross Gerring, Australia
Stephen Alston, USA
There is a similar divide on apointment. Popular election requires codification.
But anything else is only tinkering at the edges. The likely result is the McGarvie proposal whereby the HoS is appointed by the Prime Minister with advice from "wise men", with no change in or codification
of powers.
This differs from the present only in that the appointee would not represent the Queen, and her approval, which would never be witheld, would not be required. I'm sure that the leaders of the Republicans understand that this outcome is most likely, and are simply and quite cynically misleading the Australian
people through a desire to deny the contribution made by Britain to Australia's institutions and development.
Brian Grimes, Australia
Arthur Edelstein, USA
Murray Hancock. Australia
Russell Trezise, USA
Rocky, UK
Shane Curran, Australia
Marie Elizabeth Edmond, Australia
Roger Dunham, Scotland
The move to a Republic is a great sign of strength and is a natural
progression in the maturing of any democracy. For Australia, it does not diminish the
heritage and cultural links with Britain, but more effectively reflects the
ethnic and cultural diversity of the majority of citizens.
Ted Wilson, Canada
Katrina Hart, Australia
Richard Taylor, UK
Jon Livesey, USA
Lill Roberts, Australia
Kent Howland, Australia
Richard Pond, UK
Was it an Aussie or a Pom who coined the phraise "Rearrainging the deck chairs
on the Titanic".
Robert Csintalan, Oregon, USA
Michael Witbrock, New Zealand
John Rigo, USA
Robert Kemp, Hong Kong
It would be a tragedy
Tom Gregg, United States of America
John Hender, Canada
Peter Miles
U.S.A.
Jonathan Lieberman Fernández, United States
Hal Schneikert, USA
Michael Larson, United States
Ken Stealey, UK
Andrew Pyne, Hong Kong
We in the British Isles have much more culturally in common with Australia, New Zealand, South
Africa and Canada than we do with Europe - surely it's time to look again at the way in
which we Brits align ourselves to the world?
David Christopher, Dublin, Southern Ireland, British Isles
For your interest I'm a British Citizen and resident in Australia since 1981.
Regardless of the outcome this is a great place to live.
Nigel Beresford, Australia
Michael Scherz, USA
Who needs a Queen?
Derek Dunn, United Kingdom
Michael Cobb, USA
Colin Neal, England
James Horne, Australia
Kevin Morgan, United Kingdom
Roger, Australia
Mehmet Arda Soyusatic, Turkey
Richard J. Thiele, Great Britain
Kate Dowling, England
Richard Gibson, United Kingdom
Australia's decision
Bill Simes, Australia
P Colley, Australia
Del Bullock, United Kingdom
Ben Broadbent, (English in) US
Good luck with the debate that you are facing now. We Americans have our way
of governing & you must choose the way for yourselves.
Michael G. , USA
I think some ex pats or the English media create the idea of Aussie pommie
bashing, it is more of a Myth than a reality.
PS, I believe very strongly that Australia should become a Republic sooner
than later.
Stuart North, Australia
Sarah Nicholas, Australia
B Jackson, Australia
S.C., Scotland, UK
Lisa, UK
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