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What do YOU think about school ties?

School uniform

Wearing ties with giant knots or the thin end at the front could be a thing of the past if one school's idea catches on.

The head has decided that all pupils will have to wear clip-on ones from now on because they can't be personalised.

The school claims that the kids' behaviour has got better, but we want to know what YOU think about the idea.

Should kids be allowed to wear their uniform the way they want?

And how do kids like to wear their uniforms at your school, is there a special way they tie their ties, or anything else?

Unfortunately, this topic is now closed, but there are Comments pages on other subjects on the main Chat index.

Your Comments

"Our school isn't fair. All the boys have to wear ties but the girls don't have to! The boys' uniform at our school is way worse than the girls' one."

Ian, 9, London, England

"I think the ban is pointless. Firstly, ties don't even make you look smart - they're just a piece of cloth to wrap your neck in. Secondly, I think there should be a ban on making your tie less than three inches... More than that looks OK and it doesn't look un-smart. I wear my tie about three inches long and I only do it up tight when the teachers are around (because I get detention)... but otherwise loose looks OK."

Sarah, 11, Birmingham, England

"I think that the school tie is cool because it makes you feel like a grown-up."

Abdiqani, 11, Leicester, England

"I wear school ties to school and they don't really bother me. Clip-on ties just fall off!"

Lizzie, 12, Sheffield, England

"I think you should wear school ties because they look really smart and they are really cool!!!"

Georgia, 9, Manchester, England

"Ties are OK and I don't mind wearing one as long as I can personalise it. Clip-on ones are for little children."

Christina, 13, Cornwall, England

"My school is so strict, we can't personalise our uniform at all. Our ties have to be waist length and you get a Friday night detention if you have them with big knots."

Georgina, 11, London, England

"At my school people are obsessed with short ties that are huge at the top and I never realised how silly they looked until this year. Our teachers try their best to get everyone to put their ties to the length they allow, which isn't super long but it's not ridiculously short."

Ellen, 14, Kent, England

"It is a really good idea. My school is always scruffy-looking because of the ties!!"

Avannah, 11, Glasgow, Scotland

"I really don't get ties. They look stupid, they're uncomfortable - especially when it's hot -and girls are probably never going to wear them again. And wearing a clip-on tie that can't be personalised will NOT improve school behaviour in anyway. How does a tie affect the way you act in school? It's silly."

Natasha, 14, Northern Ireland

"I think that the clip-on ties are good but sometimes everyone pulls them off and runs off with them. We started the clip-on ties at the start of term."

Iram, 11, Wolverhampton, England

"I have to wear a clip-on tie. I don't like the idea because it could get lost or somebody could take it. I have already lost mine once but luckily I found it!"

Luke, 11, Nottingham, England

"I think you shouldn't have to wear ties; they don't do anything to help your learning. Ties are uncomfortable and if you have to do them small and right up at your collar then they choke you. If you have to wear ties then I think you should be able to make them big or small whatever way you like and want to do them."

Crystal, 12, Glasgow, Scotland

"In my school, how you wear your tie is the only bit of personalisation you have - necklaces, earrings etc. are banned."

Jack, 12, Wolverhampton, England

"I don't think it is fair to make people wear their ties in a certain way. We all look the same anyway so why take away the little individuality we have left during the school day?!"

Jake, 12, Worcester, England

"Ties are boring!!! They strangle you and I want to wear a clip-on tie but we are not allowed."

Megan, 11, Northumberland, England

"We don't have to wear ties. We just wear tee-shirts and sweatshirts and we personalise them by tucking things in, and we get told off. But I think that people should be allowed to personalise their ties and the school should concentrate on better things like education."

Maisie, 13, Cambridge, England

"I think that clip-on ties are a silly idea because you can't style them yourself."

Bethany, 11, Doncaster, England

"If there is such a commotion about ties I think we shouldn't wear one at all."

Anastasia, 12, Bath, England

"Our school doesn't have ties but I think ties are for boys more so I would hate wearing one."

Emma, 13, Leicester, England

"It would be great because we are having a big crunch on uniform! It would stop a lot of people being stopped in the corridor and big knots look scruffy and a lot of people wear their ties low down."

Lizzie, 12, Wirral, England

"I like wearing my tie like a giant knot. It doesn't really make a difference; it's only a tie! It doesn't affect our education."

James, 14, Liverpool, England

"I think that girls shouldn't have to wear ties to school because women teachers don't so why should we?"

Michelle, 14, Southampton, England

"I love wearing my proper school tie because it shows independence, depending on how you wear it. They should not ban them."

Rachael, 12, Dudley, England

"Well, we have horrible ties at our school and they are a right nuisance to the school uniform. I think you'd look just as smart if you didn't have to wear them, plus you would save loads of money because you wouldn't need to buy one and they can cost quite a lot."

Chris, 13, Crawley, England

"I think ties are so cool but I don't see why we should wear them for school. And teachers say you look as smart as a businessman but they get in the way, even a clip on one. Imagine if you are doing a test - they would get in the way and they would irritate me. At my old school they bought in where you have to wear a tie, they don't make you look cool they make you look like a businessman. And what is the point in wearing a tie? You have to put it on every morning. I wouldn't manage, I wouldn't get up early enough let alone putting a tie on."

Chloe, 9, Thornton, England

"School ties are a pain in the neck!!! All teachers ever say is Do your tie up properly!!! GRRRRRRRR!"

Tom, 12, Southampton, England

"My school can wear our ties anyway we like, but most people don't wear them at all. I don't know why everyone is making a fuss, they don't affect our behaviour or education."

Grace, 10, Wolverhampton, England

"I don't see the point in ties. Teachers say that we look 'so smart' in them and try to get kids to wear them by giving rewards to kids that wear their ties, but they're just another way of fiddling about in the morning."

Roisin, 10, Scotland

"I go to a school that has to wear the clip-on ties and I hate them. They are disgusting and irritating! I don't know how wearing our old ties affects our behaviour."

Sarah, 12, Birmingham, England

"I think it makes you look decent when you have a proper tie, but it doesn't affect your education or if you come or not! I keep my tie in a fat knot but it doesn't effect my education or my friends."

Lolly, 12, Bradford, England

"I think wearing a tie is no big deal. Why is everyone making a fuss over it?"

Hannah, 12, London, England

"Ties are annoying and get in the way. If you're going to have any tie, a clip-on one is definitely best."

James, 10, West Sussex, England

"I hate them; they are really annoying!"

Georgia, 10, Kent, England

"I think they're really cool and make you look smart but our school doesn't have any."

Bloom, 13, Kent, England

"I wear a tie for my school but everyone has it SHORT, even the new year sevens."

Rachel, 11, Manchester, England

"Ties should be allowed, big or small. We come to learn at school - isn't that enough?"

Anisah, 12, Bradford, England

"My school has no uniform so to me it is bad enough having to wear a tie. You should at least be allowed to tie it how you want!"

Aisling, 11, Ireland

"I think it is silly that the boys and girls have to wear clip-on ties instead of normal ones."

Laura, 10, Northern Ireland

"I think school ties are cool."

Liam, 9, Birmingham, England

"I think clip-on ones are better because you won't have too much fuss putting them on. This way you won't be late for school."

Anam, 12, London, England

"We used to wear our ties low and short with a big knot, but then we got a new head teacher who didn't like us having them like that so now we have to wear clip-on ties and blazers but the ties are horrible and the blazers are worse."

Millie, 13, Lincolnshire, England

"Everyone is dressed correctly in our school, because we have polo shirts and jumpers. But the clip-on ties are a good idea."

Anna, 12, North Wales

"Surely schools should stop wasting time on petty things like uniform and pay more attention our education!"

Alice, 13, Durham, England

"I like ties at school because you can wear them short, long, big knot or small knot but maybe they should do an option of clip-on ties so you can choose what YOU want to wear."

Georgina, 11, Cornwall, England

"We have to wear ties; it's part of the uniform and it's also my favourite. I think ties look cool and are cool."

Leoni, 14, Glasgow, Scotland

"I think clip-on ties are a good idea because with normal ties if you wear it long people think you're a geek but with clip-ons they are all the same length so there wouldn't be as much bullying."

Sophie, 12, South Wales

"You should be allowed to wear your tie any way you want, just not the way the teachers don't like (as in the small thin bit at the front) but it is not fair if you force a child's style to be different."

Erin, 13, Glasgow, Scotland

"At my school nearly everyone messes with their tie and they don't get told off."

Sophie, 12, Plymouth, England

"Ties! Improving behaviour? We don't have any problems with ties at my school, and I really don't think it would help you learn better."

Ro, 12, Southampton, England

"I think school ties make us all look quite smart."

Lucy, 11, London, England

"At my school we have to wear our top buttons done and have five to seven stripes on our ties. They hand out detentions to anyone who doesn't! It's awful!"

Ruth, 14

"I don't think that we need ties to look smart."

Sabha, 13, Reading, England

"I think big knots LOOK GREAT!!! I do my tie really short with a massive knot. I think clip-on ties aren't a good idea as you can't personalise them but on the other hand you don't have to spend hours in the morning and at the end of PE trying to perfect your tie."

Annabel, 13, Blackpool, England

"Well, at the end of the day, we are still wearing the uniform. Why do we have to be smart in school? Only we are going to see it."

Selina, 14, Birmingham, England

"I think ties make you look smarter. But it's really stupid how the kids' behaviour has got better over a tie. I think children should be able to wear any tie they want."

Agne, 9, London, England

"We have to wear clip-on ties if we are caught with the knot too big three times."

Jess, 13, York, England

"We have to wear ties at school and the teachers are always complaining that we never wear them correctly. At our old school we didn't have ties and it was a lot easier!"

Alicia, 12, Cumbria, England

"I wish my school wore uniforms! That would be so cool. We can wear whatever we want, with a few exceptions, but I wish we could all just dress the same!"

Kaitlyn, 14, Ohio, USA

"I think that people should not be allowed to choose the style because it looks scruffy and not nice."

Andrew, 9, Exeter, England

"I think ties look smart. However, I don't like it when they have to be down to your belly button and right up to your top button. I think they should be worn how you like. However, I do understand the point if they do get too messy."

Dani, 13, Worcestershire, England

"That's so unfair. It doesn't matter about our ties because it doesn't affect our schoolwork."

Victoria, 9, Essex, England

"I am in year seven and we don't like clip-on ties. We just have our tie really small so you can't see it much. It is good that we don't wear clip-on ties; they are not good!"

Aman, 12, Birmingham, England

"Ties are silly. I don't see what difference they make to school life and education. Plus when we have PE or Games at the end of the day people are late for their bus because they have to put on their tie. Ties are pointless."

Roisin, 10, Scotland

"I think those big knots look really messy! They just look like the student who is wearing the tie just can't be bothered. I think clip-on ties are an excellent idea because not only will the knot look nice but the tie will be at the right length, too!!!"

Kym, 12, Stockport, England

"I think ties are too much of a hassle. The schools should stop making the children wear ties!"

Pembe, 12, London, England

"I think ties are absolutely horrible. No schoolchild should have to wear them!!!"

Lucien, 10, Gloucester, England

"I have always wanted one, but I think they are a bit hard to put on!"

Sophie, nine, Manchester, England

"We should be able to wear our ties the way we want."

Hannah, 13, Sheffield, England

"I have had to wear a clip-on tie for two years now. It is such a relief not to have to fiddle about with a tie in the morning!"

Sam, 12, Birmingham, England

"My school used to have clip-on ties but they got rid of them after the older pupils stole them or they fell off."

Alex, 12, Manchester, England

"Well, I don't have to wear a school uniform or a tie so I wouldn't know, but I would hate to have to wear one; they drive me MAD!!!"

Lily, 12, Spain

"About time a school started to fight back on this! I think those look absolutely ridiculous, and it is embarrassing for me and my school."

Rodger, 13, Manchester, England

"At my school we don't wear ties. I don't see the point in them! We are all happy in our blouses just as they are, so we don't wear ties as part of our uniform!"

Rosie, 13, Reading, England

"I think that ties express who you are. Depending on how you wear it, you can be judged on your personality. I hate the really short ties though!"

Romana, 14, Leeds, England

"I thought normal ties were cool. Now we have clip-ons and it's rubbish; they keep breaking."

Rosie, 12, Lincoln, England

"I think that the schools that are introducing new rules about how you wear your ties are silly. Ties don't affect your education - what's the big deal?"

Molly, 11, Oxford, England

"We had our clip-on ties at the start of the year and we thought they looked silly, but now we think they are much safer."

Iram, 11, Wolverhampton, England

"I hate school ties. They make us look stupid. My school has to wear them. It is the best school but I wish we did not have to wear them."

Chloe, 8, Belfast, Northern Ireland

"If you are going to wear school uniform, wear it properly! Otherwise it defeats the object. But I think that they are getting fussy at my school, even telling us how we can/can't wear our hair, which is so annoying!"

Lizzie, 12, England

"The idea of clip on-ties is ridiculous because they mean having to have your top button done all the time, which chokes. I'm refusing to wear a clip-on tie!!!"

Sara, 13, Sunderland, England

"I think it's silly that we have to wear our ties correctly. It doesn't affect our education at all. At my school we have short ties with big knots; there's nothing wrong with it."

Kim, 12, West Bromwich

"I think the big knots look ridiculous! They look messy and really silly, not cool! I think the teachers were right to make them wear clip-on ties!"

Kim, 12, London, England

"I think ties are cool because they make you feel that you are grown up."

Sam, 10, London, England

"Clip-on ties will make uniforms tidier, but I prefer a normal tie."

Emily, 13, Stockport, England

"I hate school ties, but I think that they are good for when we go for jobs so we know how to put them on and take them off!"

Sarah, 12, Worcester, England

"Me and my friends think that the teacher should let us wear our ties short and with a big knot, because we wear the uniform and we go to the school. They don't wear it do they? Plus, they are really uncomfortable."

Abbey, 12, Chelmsford, England

"My school has clip-on ties, it's to stop you from having your top button undone. Sometime if your shirt collar doesn't have at least a few centimetres space from your neck, then your tie scratches you and gives you red marks on your neck."

Poppy, 13, Peterborough, England

"I think ties are stupid as I can't put them on, clip-ons would be much easier."

Yvonne, 13, Sunderland, England

"Ties are really annoying, and if people think your tie is too nerdy you get bullied."

Tasha, 13, Warrington, England

"My school got clip-on ties last year. It doesn't improve behaviour because ever since we got them most people have been more naughty. I think we should ban clip-on ties all together."

Imogen, 12, Cranfield, England

"I think that we should not have clip-on ties because if we have a real tie we can get into the habit of tying our own ties."

Makhala, 11, Preston, England

"I hate my tie!!! It chokes me because we have to keep them pulled up and if that wasn't bad enough, we have to have our top buttons done up as well!!"

Lauren, 12, England

"I don't like ties at all. Ties are supposed to make you look smart but half of the people in my school wear them really messily and makes them look un-smart, so I think ties are pointless."

Adam, 11, Solihull, England

"I think that ties make people look smarter."

Rabiat, 11, Whitehaven, England

"What's the point of ties anyway? They don't help your education, so why bother?"

Katie, 12, Brighton, England

"My school are thinking of changing the school tie too clip-ons because of how other pupils are wearing them. I don't want to wear clip-on ties."

Tishanna, 13, Doncaster, England

"I think that ties should be clip-ons. I have to wake early to make my tie. It's really frustrating."

Gavin, 12, Belfast, Northern Ireland

"I hate clip-on ties, that way you will actually never learn to do one."

Sania, 13, London, England

"I think if you're late and have a tie, you're gonna be even later! Clip-ons are better, I think."

Chloe, 10, Dunfermline, Scotland

"I think that school ties are a waste of time. It took me ages to get it perfect and even when they're on, they strangle you. In my primary school, we didn't have to wear them, so what's the difference in high school?"

Susanna, 11, Whitefield, England

"My school has been making us use clip-on ties since last year. I hate them! They are uncomfortable and young kids are having them pulled right off them by older kids."

Alex, 14, Leominster, England

"I don't mind wearing a tie in school, everyone wears them in their own trend which I think is fine. I think clip on-ties are a bit silly and they should be kept the way they are."

Holly, 11, Plymouth, England

"Ties are trendy like that. If you don't have any style with your tie and have it really tight and done up then you get bullied."

Keeley, 12, Birmingham, England

"I don't see what the point is. They don't influence your education. Why do they matter?"

Jim, 13, Girvan, Scotland

"I have my tie, it looks cool. I didn't realise the teachers were so hung up about this, it's ridiculous."

David 14, Birmingham, England

"I think the school ties are alright, but we should be able to wear them how we want!!"

Sam, 13, Stoke-on-Trent, England

"I think school ties are a way to show that you go to high school and it makes you look smart and responsible."

Niloufar, 13, Halifax, England

"We wear our ties short and we think that we should be able to wear what we want when we want."

Jade, Rebecca & Laura, 13, Stoke-on-Trent, England

"I think ties are pointless! We have to wear blazers as well and they just choke and overheat us!"

Meera, 12, London, England

"I think you should be able to wear your tie the way you want to. They don't, and can't affect your behaviour by themselves."

Kate, 12, Glasgow, Scotland

"I love ties, but the best ones are clip-on so you can get ready quicker in the morning!"

Caitlin, 6, West Fife, Scotland

"I think ties are useless in quite a few ways, but on the other hand they make people smart!!!"

Katie, 12, Somerset, England

"I think that ties shouldn't be banned because most schools have them and it makes the schools look neat."

Lizzie, 12, Swindon, England

"My friend Jade and I think that clip-on ties are silly. At our school you can wear your tie how you want and year 11 prefects have a different style. Each year group has a different coloured logo on their tie so we can work out what year people are in. Year 11 have a different one altogether."

Bekaa, 12, Staffordshire, England

"They are only ties; you should be able to wear them the way you want to."

Kerry, 12, Northern Ireland

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous... The way you wear a tie doesn't affect behaviour. You could understand if people were using it to hurt other people, but just because they are wearing it wrong... It's pathetic!"

Abbie, 12, UK

"We used to have school ties, but they then got banned. I think it was a good idea to ban them because some people would use them as some sort of weapon. We now just use polo shirts."

Chloe, 12, Wales

"Ties are just part of school uniform, no big deal."

Bethany, 13, Argyll and Bute, Scotland

"We think that children should be able to wear their ties however they want as it doesn't affect their behaviour."

Class R4, 8, Bristol, England

"That's ridiculous! They can't really think that clip-on ties improve pupils' behaviour!"

Emma, 13, Edinburgh, Scotland

"School ties are rubbish. It takes you years to learn how to do them and they make you feel ugly."

Cara, 9, Glasgow, Scotland

"What is the big fuss about all of this? Ties should be worn any way you want them to, as long as it is a sensible way."

Joshua, 10, Swansea, Wales

"I agree; I like the idea that knot ties should be banned from schools. I never want another person wearing at tie. Clip-on ties are easier and safer and easier to do when you are changing for sports."

Ben, 11, Surrey, England

"Ties make schools smarter, but it should be their choice how they wear it."

Nick, 11, Gloucester, England

"As long as people wear ties then it doesn't matter how they do!! Wearing ties properly looks far too smart!!"

Hannah, 12, Scotland

"As long as you wear a tie it shouldn't matter how you wear it."

Lauren, 12, Nottingham, England

"I think pupils should be able to personalise ties - it gives them a little more freedom in their uniform; after all, everybody has the same tie so they all look the same anyway."

Hannah, 14, Nottingham, England

"I think that is so stupid. It doesn't really matter how you are wearing a tie - at least you are wearing one and it's school uniform."

Shaneil, 14, London, England

"Our school brought in clip-on ties two years ago - we all have the same shape/size now so no-one bothers."

Chloe, 14, Leeds, England

"I think it's good that you don't wear a tie as it takes ages to get on and off."

Kay, 8, Scotland

"I think ties make the uniform look smarter, but when it is very warm and the room isn't ventilated well we start to sweat and we can't concentrate because our ties are round our neck. Some schools in N. Ireland don't have to wear ties, just blouses."

Rachel, 12, Northern Ireland

"I think people should wear their ties with the small end all the time because it would look smarter and everyone would look the same."

Loz, 14, UK

"They are so annoying. Nearly everyone hates them in our school, mostly boys."

Jenny, 11, England

"I have just started high school and the ties are really annoying because people pull your tie down really hard. It's called peanuting and it makes it nearly impossible to get your tie off."

Mikey, 11, Stockport, England

"I have a clip-on tie, but the problem is that people can pull them off really easily so I get really annoyed."

Joe, 13, Macclesfield, England

"I think it's important to wear school uniform, but all kids should get some days when they can wear home clothes."

Olivia, 11, Dorset, England

"The ties at my school have a badge on them and some people tie them so short you can't even see the badge! After school I have seen some people wearing them round their head if they haven't taken them off already!"

Barbara, 11, Scotland

"I think ties are cool, but I hate clip-on ones because they are just stupid!"

Kathryn, 11, Scotland

"I have to wear a tie at my school but not a clip-on one. I prefer the normal ties."

Siobhan, 11, Kent, England

"Our ties are annoying because they cause trouble because lots of people have small ties and some with big ones call the people with the small ties swots, so they cause bullying!!!"

Jess, 12, Leeds, England

"I think kids should wear whatever uniform they want. I think that ties are OK because ties make kids look smart."

Catherine, 15, Crawley, England