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Ex-Pc 'attacked' murder accused

Geoffrey Harries
Former police constable Geoffrey Harries was stabbed 20 times

A man accused of killing a former policeman claimed he acted in self defence and thought he would die.

Daniel Marcel Williams told a Swansea Crown Court jury it happened after he slashed Geoffrey Harries' car tyres in Trimsaran, Carmarthenshire.

"He was massive on top of me and I couldn't breathe, I thought he was going to kill me," said Mr Williams.

He denies murdering Mr Harries, 49, who had been facing charges of possessing child pornography.

He said he was worried that Mr Harries had moved onto the Dythel Park estate, as the former policeman was awaiting trial accused of possessing child pornography.

Mr Williams, of Trimsaran, said he had already slashed a tyre on Mr Harries' van and poured brake fluid over the bonnet.

He was massive on top of me and I couldn't breathe
Daniel Marcel Williams

When his brother Chad was arrested for drink-driving, Mr Williams admitted he had "verbally abused" officers but denied that he was being aggressive towards them.

As he walked home after the arrest, Mr Williams decided to vandalise the van again.

He took a combat knife from his home but said he had no intention of doing anything to Mr Harries himself.

He punctured a back tyre and then a front tyre and ran off.

When he stopped running he heard footsteps behind him, the court heard.

"I turned round and as he got into my vision he hit me and took me to the ground," said Mr Williams.

"He was massive on top of me and I couldn't breathe. He had his right forearm on my throat, pushing all his weight down.

"I couldn't breathe. I thought he was going to kill me. I couldn't move."

Police outside house in Trimsaran in June 2008
Mr Harries and his wife had moved to his mother's house in Trimsaran

Mr Williams told the court that he tried to hit Mr Harries.

"He jumped up off me. I stood up, facing each other. I didn't get to see how he looked or what he was wearing. I sprinted off as fast as I could to get away from him," he said.

Mr Williams said he had been told that Mr Harries had been accused of possessing 2,000 indecent images of children, including some in the most serious category.

The prosecution has claimed that Mr Williams had used the combat knife to stab Mr Harris 20 times on 7 June 2008.

Mr Williams was asked by his barrister, Elwen Evans QC, "Did you murder Geoffrey Harries?" He replied: "No I did not."

He was asked if he intended to cause Mr Harries really serious harm. "No, never," said Mr Williams.

"Did you intend to kill him?" said Mr Evans. "No, I didn't," replied Mr Williams.

"But were you the person involved in the incident during which he suffered his fatal injuries?"

Answer: "Yes, I was."

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