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Bid to rename peak after princess
Carnedd Uchaf is the peak slightly to the right above Penrhyn Castle
A society dedicated to the memory of a Welsh princess, daughter of Llewelyn the Last, wants the name of a north Wales mountain changed in her honour.

The Princess Gwenllian Society would like to see Carnedd Uchaf in the Ogwen Valley renamed Carnedd Gwenllian.

The National Trust, which owns part of the peak, said changing the name might affect the safety of walkers and cause practical problems in updating maps.

Walkers in the area also disagreed with altering the centuries-old name.

I see nothing wrong in the idea, it would be a way to raise awareness of Welsh history
Mallt Anderson, Princess Gwenllian Society

Princess Gwenllian was born in 1282 in Abergwyngregyn, near Bangor.

Her mother died in childbirth and just six months later Gwenllian was orphaned when her father Prince Llywelyn ap Gruffudd was killed in battle with Edward I at Cilmeri near Builth Wells.

To stop her becoming a threat, Edward I had Gwenllian snatched and she was taken to a convent in Lincolnshire.

She was kept prisoner as a nun for the rest of her life and buried at Sempringham Abbey after her death, aged 54, in 1337.

The Gwenllian Society now want a proper memorial for her in Wales.

Local connection

Mallt Anderson, secretary of the society, said there was a long tradition of naming mountains in Wales after the Welsh royal family.

"In the Carneddau there is Carnedd Llewelyn, named after her (Princess Gwenllian's) father, and Yr Elen named after her mother Elinor and lower down there is Dafydd, her uncle," said Ms Anderson.

"I see nothing wrong in the idea, it would be a way to raise awareness of Welsh history - we should remember this family because they are part of that history and we should respect this history," she added.

But walker Margaret Fernleigh from Talybont near Bangor said she was against the name change.

"I feel strongly about changing these old names - I hate it when they do it to houses in the area too," she said.


"In my opinion these names have a connection with the area they're in, and the way people used to live in those areas. Carnedd Uchaf has been used for generations, and I see no point in changing that."

The National Trust is also uncertain about the proposed renaming.

A trust spokesman said: "There would be many implications to consider if it was proposed to rename a known landmark such as a mountain.

"Not only would it involve endless updating of maps and documents, it also has an impact on the safety of walkers trying to navigate - and it could cause complications when reporting an accident."

'Original names'

A spokesman for Ordnance Survey (OS) said there was no official body for naming topographical features, although it generally needed the agreement of the landowner - in this instance the National Trust but it would also involve Snowdonia National Park.

"Although local authorities have responsibility for street naming they do not have responsibility for naming physical features in the landscape.

"However in this case we would expect the Snowdonia National Park Authority to give its agreement, having ensured a general consensus for such a name change".

The spokesman added that OS had recently reinstated a number of the original names of mountain features and place-names onto their maps.

"We have also worked with local authorities and the Welsh Language Board in establishing standardised Welsh place-names which will appear on our mapping data in due course," he said.

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