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Neds make it into the dictionary
Neds are often blamed for anti-social behaviour
Neds are often blamed for anti-social behaviour
Neds, Scotland's tracksuit-wearing youths who are often blamed for anti-social behaviour, have achieved a degree of respectability.

The word is one of 1,500 new additions to the Collins English Dictionary.

The official definition is that ned is a derogatory term for "a young working-class male who dresses in casual sports clothes".

The dictionary also includes the adjectives "neddy" or "neddish" and "nedette", a ned's female counterpart.

Other Scottish slang added to reflect the latest trends in language and culture include "chib", which means "to stab or slash with a sharp weapon", and "a square go", defined as "a fair fight between two individuals".

'Non-educated delinquent'

The word ned has achieved a growing prominence over the past decade.

The BBC comedy show Chewin' The Fat featured a sketch where the news was translated for neds, using typical slang terms.

It was about time these words went in
Justin Crozier
Collins editor

Neds featured heavily during the Scottish Executive's crackdown on anti-social behaviour two years ago.

The Scottish Socialist Party's Rosie Kane condemned the use of the word by the executive, saying it was hurtful and disrespectful to young people.

Ms Kane said the word stands for a non-educated delinquent and is therefore degrading and insulting.

However, the then Communities Minister Margaret Curran accused her of focusing on "frivolities" rather than the blight of youth crime.

In 2001 the word ned entered the Concise Oxford Dictionary, defined as a hooligan or petty criminal, a stupid or loutish boy or man.

'Possessing' language

The words "chav", a UK-wide word conveying a similar phenomenon as ned, is also included in the Collins dictionary.

Justin Crozier, editor of the Collins English Dictionary, told BBC Radio Scotland that many of the new words were a reflection of current Scottish language.

He said: "It was about time these words went in. One thing that has been difficult traditionally for dictionary publishers to do is to include a lot of regional dialects and vernacular language, simply because it doesn't appear in print very often.

"But we have a dedicated team of lexicographers and editors and when we come across a word which we really think should be in, then we just have to fight for them to go in.

"We have quite a lot of Scottish words in the dictionary now and we are very proud of being based in Scotland and being the UK's oldest dictionary publisher."

Editor-in-chief Jeremy Butterfield added: "People have taken possession of language and are ever more inventive about the way they use it.

"The new words in this edition do not only reflect change in our culture, but a change in the way we use our language: they portray a vibrant, multicultural society finding new ways to express itself and describe the world around it."

We asked for your thoughts on the words that should be in the dictionary.

'Diananisation' - the media practice of raising vapid celebrity non-entities to sainthood.
Tom Macey, Bham UK

Following Carol's mention of 'outwith', I'd like to see dictionary recognition of the Scottish 'whatsoever' (as in 'of no use whatsoever'), which seems infinitely preferable to the flat English 'whatever'.
Gavin, Oxford

Wairs ma 'buckie' in tha dicshunry, likes?
Wee Boab, Glasgae

I'd like to see the word "barkit" a Dundee word for "Very Dirty" added as its a great word and "Fizzer" which is "Face".
Graeme Stevens, ex Dundee, now Mexico City

Stop butchering the English language! We were once renound for the way we spoke and the sheer eloquence of our speech... those days are slowly fading with the growth of chav and ned culture
Raj, Chelmsford

What about some good old doric? like bossies and fit like?
Michael Robertson, Aberdeen

Na, A wid hiv pit thegither a gret muckle "Scots Language" dictionary and eikit a hantle o shared "English" wirds!
David Wilson, Aberdeen

How about clatty, bogin, reekin? But most of all must be the recent Liverpool performance in the Champions League final - bouncebackability
Brian, Glasgow

Perhaps some words that describe one's appearance - minger, munter, rank, fugly etc.
Ally, Scotland

I like the word 'charisntma' meaning lacking charisma. This was invented by my wife, hopefully it wasn't inspired by me.
John Miller, Ayr, Scotland

Don't forget, that with the growing popularity of metal and alternative music, there is now the word "Slip-ned". The genius who came up with that term I offer my most hearty contrafibularities.
Alex, Leicester, UK

Surely a female ned is a nedwina?
Anon, Glasgow

To Wendify (v), Wendification (n) Replacement of the traditional and comfortable with the superficial, brand-conscious and corporate. eg: They've wendified the pub
Andrew Brown, London

It would be pure dead barry if it was in the dictionary.
Barry, Edinburgh

Ken - means do you know what i mean or an acknowledgement.
Darren Fyffe, Dundee

I would have chosen those words just because I hear them everyday. It would also be good to include the different types of gang - possy, fleeto, bundy, crew.
Stuart Graham, Glasgow Scotland

I would like to see words that include numbers such as: 2=to/too, 4=for, etc. Also misspelt words would show that it is not the word that is important, but the meaning.
David Matthews, Scotland

I'd like to see the Scottish 'outwith' included in the dictionary, as it seems to be outwith the Standard English vocabulary.
Carol, Weesp Netherlands

I think the word cromulant should be put in, as it is a perfectly cromulant use of the word ;-)
Ed Gallagher, UK

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02 Feb 04 |  Scotland
Holyrood urged to protect 'neds'
05 Jun 03 |  Scotland


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