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Saturday, 30 November, 2002, 16:25 GMT
Labour attacked: Key quotes
Andy Gilchrist
Sacthing attack: Andy Gilchrist
Fire union boss Andy Gilchrist used a speech to a Manchester political rally to go on the offensive over the government's relations with unions:

My first comments are directed to the many members of the FBU in this room today and indeed beyond.

Eight days of a national strike. You went out together, you stayed out together, and you have gone back together. I am so proud to be a representative of you people here today.

As we found out, you can't predict much in this old world of ours ...I will say this. Every single one of the representatives will do everything we can to support the campaign that is being led and is being run and will be won by the membership of this union.

I'm quite prepared to work to replace New Labour with what I'm prepared to call Real Labour.

"I have no nostalgic romanticism about old Labour but there are real Labour values built on real social progress, on real justice for working class people and indeed for fairness for all.

It's disgraceful to say that for people in this country who are prepared to risk their lives to save others you can't find any extra money but you can find at least a billion to bomb innocent men, women and children in Iraq in a futile effort to bomb them into democracy.

I think we need to have a debate about that link [with Labour] and I think we ought to have it in the trade union movement, with or without them because that's how they treat people around them as well.

Thank God there might be a time after New Labour.

We will stick together as we have done this week. We will welcome support from all quarters of this movement.

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