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Last Updated: Friday, 18 February, 2005, 10:38 GMT
What makes you local?
By Tom Geoghegan
BBC News Magazine

Angel of the North
A huge source of pride for those surveyed in the North East and North West
When considering what gives the regions of the UK their identity, qualities that spring to mind could include accents, local foods and natural beauty. No. Think bigger.

Cornish pasties, Yorkshire pudding, the Scouse brogue...defining characteristics for different parts of the UK you may think.

But not as important as Big Ben, Angel of the North and Stonehenge, it seems.

A survey of 1,000 people across the UK suggests landmarks give people a sense of local identity more than accents, regional foods or the people themselves. Respondents said they were most important because they enhance the landscape.

WHAT SHAPES REGIONAL IDENTITY?
76% Landmarks
61% Architecture
60% Regional events
51% Food and drink
44% Regional accents
44% Regional newspapers
3% None of these
2% Don't know

Survey by BRMB, people asked to choose three from list of six
When asked to name their favourite landmark attractions in the UK, Big Ben, the London Eye and Stonehenge topped the poll.

But respondents most often chose their local landmark, so the Angel of the North was the favourite in the North East and the Eden Project in the South West. In Scotland, it was Edinburgh Castle followed by the Forth Bridge.

Not the case in the West Midlands, however, where the top three answers were in London and Edinburgh. So what do Brummies regard as their top characteristics?

Liverpool 1 Manchester 0

Most important is the people, says Carl Chinn, social historian at the University of Birmingham.

VOTE RESULTS
Which do you consider most important in your regional identity?
Landmarks
 15.42% 
Natural beauty
 20.47% 
Accents
 25.79% 
Food and drink
 2.29% 
Events and traditions
 10.03% 
People
 18.99% 
Newspapers
 0.27% 
Football teams
 5.01% 
Other
 1.73% 
5154 Votes Cast
Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion
"Our manufacturing prowess, our determination and grit, our hard work," he says. "These are some of the characteristics we've got. And the fact we can attract and mix with people from various parts of the globe, and they all become Brummies."

The importance of landmarks differs from person to person, and they can please and offend in equal measure. The Angel of the North, which is apparently seen by more than one person every second, was also the least favourite landmark among many people outside the north of England.

The B of the Bang, the UK's tallest and most recent major sculpture, did not figure among the top answers but might do so in years to come. Instead the more traditional Royal Liver Building was the only local landmark among the choices of the North West, in fourth place. Liverpool 1 Manchester 0, then.

"Manchester is torn between the beautiful Victorian Romanesque Gothic architecture of the last century and the ghastly concrete and glass creations like Urbis," says broadcaster and Mancunian Stuart Hall.

"It doesn't stand for anything. Go to any other European country and there are buildings which say 'This is our identity, this is our heritage.' But Manchester is trying to rebuild itself into I don't know what. "

Howay, man!

But the landmarks lamented today could be the ones cherished in the future. At least that's the hope of the East of England Development Agency, which commissioned the research as part of its hunt for ideas for a major landmark in the area.

Ant and Dec
Geordie accents are growing in popularity
Four teams have won funding for feasibility studies in an international ideas competition. One of the plans is sculptures off the coast of Suffolk marking the lost Anglo-Saxon city of Dunwich.

Regional accents were quite low down the list of identifying features, which surprised Dr Clive Upton, a linguistics expert from Leeds University, who says there was huge public interest in a recent BBC study into the subject, called Voices.

Far from becoming less important, many regional accents are strengthening and spreading to people who never had them before, he says. Some people in the North East, for example, want to develop or emphasise a Geordie twang to appear tough and northern.

The lost Anglo-Saxon city of Dunwich
A sculpture of Dunwich - one of four ideas for the East of England
For a barometer of what's happening around the nation, where better to look than Aireborough, West Yorkshire, - according to the latest census, the most "average" place in England and Wales. Butcher Brian Meays says the district's identity is undergoing rapid change since its industrial past.

"The mills have gone and it's now a sleeper town for people working in Leeds and Bradford, a place where people go home to. It's good for business because lots of people are better off than with the mills."

As with Stuart Hall's feelings about Manchester and probably in countless other "average towns", there's a notion that post-industrial affluence has brought with it some loss of character.


Here is a selection of your comments. Thanks for contributing to the debate.

My local landmark is Humphy the camel, he's a fibreglass camel next to the M5 in Somerset near junction 24.
Tony Hayman, Taunton, UK

I come from the North West but live in Norwich, where I chose to stay after attending the UEA. I cannot define exactly what keeps me here; the confused panic on the faces of motorists when it snows (at the same time, every year), the endless churches, the simple inability of the pedestrians in the City Centre to actually walk around in a sensible, unobstructive manner...But I think on balance the most important things to me living here are my friends and the pubs. Obviously the two usually go together.
Tom Butterworth, En-ger-land

Not having lived in Manchester for a long time now, when I reflect on my youth the buildings that stick in my mind purely for their outstanding beauty are the John Rylands library and, just a short way down the road, the Manchester Central Library. However both of these are unfortunately somewhat confined to intellectuals - of which I'm not one! For me, Strangeways Prison would be a more notable landmark.
Paul Leader, Austria

In the burgh, you just can't beat a jumbo haggis supper, with a generous dollop of Edinburgh chippy sauce on. A wonderfully simplistic mix of vinegar and brown sauce, guaranteed to please even the most selective tastebuds! Very rare, but not unknown, outside the city, it is something any Edinburger who has tried it can identify with, and any who haven't, must!
James Stansfield, Edinburgh, Scotland

For us in Plymouth, THE Capital of the South West it has to be Smeatons Tower on Plymouth Hoe & the Sound, one of the best natural waterfronts in the world.
Ian, Plymouth,

The thing that defines 'home' most for me is my local radio & TV stations. When I'm out of the country it's great to be able to use the Web to access a friendly voice talking about places I know.
Roger Price, Nr. Reading, UK

Have to disagree with the view of Manchester. If you're looking for landmarks, what about the University (officially the biggest and most popular in the UK)? In terms of other things that make Manchester stand out, we have the musical talents and have spawned so many hugely influential bands, two great football teams, a great history in industry etc. The list is endless. We don't need a ridiculous landmark (B of the Bang) to establish ourselves on the map.
Simon Greaves, UK

Regional identity exists in Europe to the extreme that different towns near each other have significantly different architecture. And all we have to differentiate our regions is a few rather dull landmarks or small differences in accents per region.
Gavin Bowring, UK

Brighton, home of dirty weekends, the nudist beach and the Pavillion, what more could you want from a week away from the big smoke. Don't forget we have the South Downs that you can explore and enjoy before doing a spot of shopping.
King Fisher, Brighton, Sussex, England

For me it's the culture of a place - I love London's multicultural tolerant progressive vibe and that's a combination of most of the things on that list - the food, the people, the history, the whole package!
Pat, London UK

The new 'sail bridge' over the River Tawe in Swansea signifying a welcome regeneration of the old docks area, plus the view of Mumbles lighthouse when leaving the M4 for Swansea.
Avril, Wales

In Belfast its the Harland and Wolff cranes and now they can also be seen on the TV between BBC programmes with skateboarders going underneath them
Mairead, Belfast, Northern Ireland

For me there is greater intrinsic value in natural landmarks such as our beloved National Parks. Identity can in many ways be greatly influenced by our environment and our environment is a great gift. The nature of its longevity is a testament to its greatness over man made landmarks.
Andrew Jubb, West Yorkshire

My local landmark just has to be Wembley Stadium. The new arch dominates the landscape for miles around and from close quarters is huge. It also looks impressive from the air as you land at Heathrow Airport.
Mike, London, UK

What most characterises our area of South Oxfordshire are the massive cooling towers of Didcot power station. My favourite local landmark is the line of hills that block it from our view in Abingdon.
Andy T, UK

I live in Coventry and believe that Coventry Cathedral is a breathtaking landmark in the Midlands. It has a colourful history and a bright future. Based in the centre of Coventry it sits in the heart of the community for all to benefit from it.
Richard McVittie, UK

Definitely Durham Cathedral situated less than two miles from where I work. It characterises the NE and is appreciated by my business visitors and colleagues from around the world. The Angel of the North I found unpleasant when it was first erected, but now appreciate its better qualities.
Mike James, England

The National Wallace Monument in Stirling, unique and dominates the skyline for miles around. William Wallace was executed 700 years ago this year and there are plans in place to commemorate this.
Sandy Morton, Scotland

Plymouth Hoe & Plymouth Sound have got to be one of the most beautiful places in the UK, it also has a huge amount of historical value to the nation.
Dawn Willicombe, England

My favourite landmark is actually three together - the three peaks of Ingleborough, Whernside and Pen-y-gent in the Yorkshire Dales. They symbolise the wonderful beauty of Yorkshire, the majesty of its 'broad acres', strength, life and of course true, honest Yorkshire grit.
Stuart Royle, England

Liverpool's Anglican Cathedral. It's always just been there to most people today but close up it is awe inspiring and behind it is St James Cemetery, bombed during WWII the grave stones arrayed along the wall tell of harder times than ours when families were lucky to have children survive to age 5
Ian Jones, UK

I can not believe that the Angel of the North is what Geordies think of when they think of home. The Tyne bridge is the symbol to know you are truly home.
Angie, England

In Sheffield, it has to Henderson's Relish! A generous helping on mum's cow pie or 'tater 'ash is a culinary delight for us Dee-Dars!
Martin, Northern England

Obviously, it will vary depending on where people live, but in Manchester it can't be anything other then Manchester United Football Club
Ellen Ikah, Manchester, UK




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