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Last Updated: Thursday, 23 December, 2004, 15:30 GMT
Crash victims' names are released
A74 crash
The A74 returned to normal on Thursday
Police have released the names of the father and son who died in a crash on the A74 between Carlisle and Gretna.

Timothy Brian Parker, 42, and 12-year-old Bryan Peter Parker, both from Eccles, Greater Manchester, died in the three-lorry pile-up.

An inquest into their deaths was opened and adjourned on Thursday.

Hundreds of drivers were forced to sleep in their vehicles on the main route linking England and Scotland, which returned to normal on Thursday.

A spokeswoman for Cumbria Police said the southbound carriageway was partially opened in the early hours of Thursday.

I know the government consider railways to be a higher priority, but Cumbria cannot survive without decent roads
MP David MacLean
Part of the northbound route was opened by late morning.

The accident happened at 0400 GMT on Wednesday, in an area known locally as the Cumberland Gap.

Two police officers needed hospital treatment after coming into contact with a mystery red powder, which leaked from one of the crashed lorries.

Cumbria's Chief Constable Michael Baxter said the substance had been "the main problem".

Mr Baxter said: "We couldn't reopen the highway with this there.

"Another problem is that we simply do not know what a lot of these lorries are carrying on our county's roads.

"Barriers are something we need to look at. We will be having a thorough debrief with all the agencies involved, to see if our contingency plans worked well."

Mr Baxter also agreed with some motorists who claimed there were too few road signs informing drivers how to find alternative routes.

Penrith and the Border Tory MP David MacLean, whose constituency includes the stretch of the A74 where the accident happened, criticised the government over its roads policy.

He called on ministers to improve Cumbria's road network, especially the A74 and A66.

Mr MacLean said: "I'm fed up nagging about the Cumberland gap, the A66 and other roads in my constituency.

Stranded in cars

"I know the government consider railways to be a higher priority, but Cumbria cannot survive without decent roads."

It is believed the lorry travelling south overturned in high winds and crossed the carriageway colliding with two other vehicles.

People were left stranded in their cars as police officers walked up and down the miles of vehicles with soup and cups of tea.

Additional officers were drafted in from Northumbria Police to help divert motorists.

Cumbria Police earlier said the recovery operation was restricted because the A74 only has two lanes and no hard shoulder, so gaining access was difficult.

Were you trapped in your vehicle following the crash? Have your travel plans been affected? Send us your comments.


The following comments reflect the balance of comments received so far:

The current situation at 8.35am 23/12/04, and the ongoing traffic management shambles of the last 24 hours do not support the official police statements as reported here. Obviously, the definition of "trouble free" is very different in the mind of Cumbria Constabulary's spokesperson to that of the people continuing to be caught up in this mess. Would an accident have allowed the M1 or the M25 to remain blocked for more than 24 hours, with no obvious sign of a full clearance ?
Gary Dewhurst, Carlisle

My wife was taking our children down to Manchester to visit their grandparents and take presents. She left home at 8:30 and only reached Gretna at 14:30 when she decided to give up and turn for home. During this time there was no information given about possible diversions.

Although we both feel that the Police would have had a difficult job to do in these circumstances we also feel that there was a total lack of information given out to those who were trapped on the road.
Keith Jones, Lochwinnoch, Scotland

I live in Carlisle and work near Glasgow. I didn't even bother trying to go home yesterday, because of this fiasco. If this isn't a good reason to get on with the upgrade of the sub-standard Cumberland Gap to motorway standards I don't know what is.

Yet again, this project has been put back to at least 2006/7 in the Highways Agency Roads Programme.

Get on with it Tony. NOW. Stop putting it off.
Iain Kirk, Carlisle, England

I was amazed to hear the Chief Constable saying that it was only minor roads that they had not got round to signing yesterday morning following the accident on A74. There was nothing to warn me against joining the M6 northbound at junction 43 at 8.00 am yesterday. I would have thought that the slip road would have been coned off, saving me a 5 hour wait on the 3 mile stretch of motorway. I know they were busy, but I would have thought it would have been in there interest to restrict the flow of traffic onto the motorway, and they did have 4 hours to think about it.
Tim Lloyd, Carlisle

Like the northbound traveller, there was no indication when travelling from Annan that there was any problem on the road at all. I spent four hours on the Gretna slip road trying to retrace my steps. Better signposting would certainly have helped, and more timely and detailed information given to the local radio stations might have prevented people from adding their vehicles to the chaos.
Sue Jackson, Annan, Dumfriesshire

I cross from Scotland each day to work in Carlisle, this is the second time in a matter of months that the Cumberland gap has been closed in both directions. It requires upgrading ASAP, but in the meantime the local emergency services need a plan to stop more traffic joining the roads leading to the Cumberland gap three or four junctions prior to Junction 44. Given more information people working or shopping in Carlisle could have parked up, used the train to get home and recovered their car next day.
Norman Nicholson,

Without trying to sound churlish, maybe we should spare a thought for the father and his young son who were killed in the crash.
Marc Metcalfe, Manchester

I use this piece of road regularly travelling to my partner's parent in Fife. It is a sub-standard piece of road infrastructure and the funnelling affect of high-speed traffic in both directions over the metal bridge section of road is an accident waiting to happen. My condolences go out to the parties involved.
Gareth, West Midlands

Do stop whingeing on. Road travel is like that. As the long-suffering police point out there are only two lanes and no hard shoulder. There is also the option of the train or plane and despite the inaccurate garbage from the media criticising the railways, they offer a realistic, more relaxing, not to mention substantially safer alternative.
Alan Paterson, Wrexham, north Wales

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