Kidnap plot revealed by MI5 bug

Bugging: Secret recordings key to the trial

A man has been jailed for life for planning to kidnap and kill a British Muslim soldier.

The transcript below, gathered from an MI5 bugging operation, forms the key allegation against Parviz Khan that he wanted to create an Iraq-style hostage beheading video.

In the conversation, he is trying to persuade Basiru Gassama to help him. Prosecutors say Gassama did not actively help Khan in his plan. However, the Gambian-born man later pleaded guilty to failing to alert the police to the plot.

6 November 2006. Speakers are Parviz Khan and Basiru Gassama

PK [Imagining he is addressing the soldier]: "You have to, you want to go to Islamic countries, with, fight with kuffar [unbelievers] against Muslims?

Then we throw the body, burn it, send the video to the chacha [uncles, a term for Mujahideen leaders in Afghanistan or Pakistan] - the chacha can release it there Parviz Khan

"OK, I have some brothers there. Maybe you, maybe some other brothers speak Arabic. We give like a bis [bismillah - in the name of Allah], we give the judgement, well then cut it out off like you cut a pig man."

BG: "Would you wear this, man?"

PK: "Like that, I think you cut it out/off like you cut a pig. Then you put it on a stick and we say, this is to all [Muslims], man, we likes to, we want to join the Kuffar army, this is what will happen to you.

"Then we throw the body, burn it, send the video to the chacha [uncles, a term for Mujahideen leaders in Afghanistan or Pakistan]. The chacha can release it there.

"These people gonna go crazy. Didn't say the chacha, he do this in the other country he release it there. Where is the chacha? He could be next door, he could be upstairs, he could be downstairs. These people will go crazy, man."

'Searching'

BG: "So what happens. True man."

PK: "These people will go mad. This is what they call you will terrorise them, they will go crazy.

"They will start searching. Are they London, Birmingham, Newcastle, where are these people? They killed one of our soldiers in country. They've gone into countries, they're in our countries. They'll go crazy, Achi."

Parviz Khan and Basiru Gassama

BG: "True man."

PK: "Then all these other people who slowly joining the British Army, these Pakistani, these Afghan, these Gambia. They gonna say, no, man, I don't want that.

"Look like, chop him up, man. We don't to join this army. At least we can stop them from doing the haram [what is Islamically forbidden].

"We, first, we give them da'wa [lessons on the Islamic way]. Don't join the army, it is haram. Wait till you go into Kuffar. They're not listening. So now we have to use force.

"Obviously, if they were insa'an [true men who follow the right path] they would listen to our word and listen to the -"

BG: "Well you know that's true man, brother, brother, man brother, this is please man, not -"

PK: "Achi. All I say to you is set it up. Even you don't have to do it yourself. How about that drug dealer, brothers. Not brothers, donkeys, I call them, because they're drug dealers.

"They will go with him, one day, they do deal, if you bring anything back.

"Then the next time you'll take him Broad Street [Birmingham's night life area], wine and dine and girl and things.

"After that they don't get friendly. Third time, I'm gonna say, Achi lets go for a meal, man. When they for a meal, they're sitting, they sit him down. And when they come out, or when they're eating the meal.

'ID card'

"That's when me and three four Brothers come in and say when you come out we, we, we give you a lift.

We just hang him up. We've got enough brothers, own garages Parviz Khan

"But we don't give him a lift, we give him a lift to jahannama [hell]. Game over."

"That way nobody know. Then we don't, we've got enough places man. We just hang him up. We've got enough brothers, own garages, man. Night time, they're got a big shutters.

"Hang him up, man. Just bring the thing. The chef style, say bismillah [in the name of Allah], and let's do it, man."

BG: "Inshallah [God willing]."

PK: "The first thing we need is his cards. [The prosecution say this was a reference to his army identification card, which would be shown on camera].

BG: "His card. We need his card, and especially this card, we need his picture. What you need is, you know, his, his badge."

PK: "They know these people, they have, eh, the link. Then they gonna go even more crazy."

BG: "True man and that could, and that could make come and release the brother."