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School Day 24: UK-Tanzania
Student Jacqueline at Tanzanian school, Loyola

BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour programme hosted a link-up between schoolchildren in the UK and Tanzania on 6 December, 2006.

Click on the links below to read about the link-up.

Read about the two schools that took part below.

Hayes School, UK

Hayes School entrance in UK
Hayes School has 1,600 pupils
Hayes School was founded in 1791 as a small parish school serving the once rural village of Hayes. The school has been on its present site since 1956, initially using the former estate house of Gadsden as its main building.

Hayes School has grown from these humble beginnings to become a successful, popular and heavily over subscribed 11-19 mixed comprehensive school. The student population has now reached 1,600 which includes 375 students in the sixth form.

The school offers a wide academic and vocational curriculum as well as a multitude of extra curricular activities. Since achieving Media Arts specialist status in 2002 has increasingly served the wider community offering a range of evening classes.

Loyola School, Dar es Salaam, Tanzania

Loyola School is in the Mabibo outskirts of the country's main commercial city, Dar es Salaam.

Jacqueline and Happiness
Jacqueline and Happiness from Loyola get to grips with broadcast
It has 1,050 students, aged between 12 and 18.

The school is divided into O-level, known as secondary school and A-level, known as high school.

It is an English Medium private school founded in 1995 to cater mainly for children in the catchment area who were not selected to join government secondary school after seven years of primary education.

Fifty percent of the children come from medium and low income families, most of whom are receiving education grants from non-governmental organisations including religious groups, such as the Jesuits.

Some of the students participating in the Generation Next programmes are members of the school governments.

Read the interaction between the pupils at the UK school and the Tanzanian school below.

Question from Hayes School, UK to pupils at Loyola School, Tanzania

What's the difference between boys and girls at your school?

Jacqueline, Tanzania
Jacqueline, Loyola School: A saying in our parent's generation has dominated for a very long time that boys are better than girls so in this generation the girls have really tried their best to show that girls are better than boys.

Happiness, Tanzania
Happiness, Loyola School: During traditional days they used to keep the girls at home so they could not get the opportunity to go to school but now everybody is able to go to school.

Jessica, UK
Jessica, Hayes School: Girls in the UK have been tending to get better results, but it's not who works harder between boys and girls but the fact that the girls choose more humanities subjects and boys choose sciences and maths - I'm not sure if they're better at them or if they just prefer them.

Happiness, Loyola School: The government in Tanzania is really trying to encourage girls here to study science, they don't really opt for chemistry, physics and biology, so all girls from divisions 1, 2 and 3 can do A-levels - they are getting a favour, while with the boys it is more strict and it's only division one boys that can go on to A-levels.

Question from Loyola School, Tanzania to pupils at Hayes School, UK

How much emphasis is there on exams? We heard last week about the government in the UK wanting to make A-levels more challenging.

Lauren, UK
Lauren, Hayes School: We have quite a lot of emphasis on exams, we have benchmarks which is the minimum grade we're expected to get at A-level and we get projected grades, reports and reviews, parents' evenings, things like that and a lot of it is geared towards the end result. Most schools are tested on their results.

It doesn't matter about the teaching processes and inevitably a school is tested on their exam results so there is quite an emphasis on that at our school. It can be quite stressful but I know it's for my own good and will help me with what I want to do when I'm older - I want to study Law and Criminology.

Happiness, Tanzania
Happiness, Loyola School: Dar es Salaam exams are really stressful - we're having four tests this week and need to study for all of them to be promoted - so you need to attend to school activities, class and extra curricular activities - we are really hard workers! Trust me.

Jessica, UK
Jessica, Hayes School: Exams always happen at the same period so it does get very stressful because teachers and parents are expecting you to do well and you want to do well yourself to get where you want to be when you're older. I want to study geography at university and study environmental issues because I think they are playing an important role in life at the moment.

Happiness, Loyola School: I'm taking economics, geography and maths and could become a civil engineer, but I want to be a global economist.

Jacqueline, Tanzania
Jacqueline, Loyola School: I want to be a paediatrician and lecture at the university here in Dar es Salaam and then maybe I will go abroad for further study.

Question from Loyola School, Tanzania to pupils at Hayes School, UK

Do you worry about paying for higher education?

Jessica, UK
Jessica, Hayes School: Yes I do because the prices are so high these days, it's hard to pay for them. The government do give you loans but knowing you'll be in debt for a lot for years is a worry.

Lauren, UK
Lauren, Hayes School: Inevitably I will have to take out a loan, and when I get to 50 I'll have paid it back and be able to buy a house, but I think it can deter people. Getting a degree also doesn't guarantee getting a job.

Jessica, Hayes School: Yes, very able students aren't going for that reason and I think more people would got to university if the prices weren't so high.

Happiness, Tanzania
Happiness, Loyola School: I think we are also facing the same problem in Tanzania because sometimes people finishing their studies will not get jobs.

Jacqueline, Tanzania
Jacqueline, Loyola School: Also it is a problem for schools in rural areas, because the pupils will not be able to get division one (highest grades) to qualify for university, because there are not enough teachers or equipment, there's only one book for 30 people and one laboratory for 50 people.

So a student of that area won't find it that easy. I have been to a rural school and sometimes the whole school is sitting under a tree...

Lauren, Hayes School: Jacqueline, you seem quite motivated but did you find it harder to succeed in a rural school with so few facilities?

Jacqueline, Loyola School: It was very hard.

Lauren, Hayes School: I can imagine, because I have always been to a school with a decent amount of facilities and teachers to help me and can't imagine what it must be like to work in the conditions you are describing.

Happiness, Loyola School: Really? Let me give some examples.

In rural areas you have poor transport and poor infrastructure, there is no electricity. So when you go back home you have to arrive very early to get the light to study or else you have to use a kerosene valve.

Lauren, Hayes School: Oh my gosh.

Happiness, Loyola School: And you have to take care of the house, help your mother with cooking with younger sisters and brothers. And some ignorant parents think for a girl that just after finishing school you should get married, just because you are a girl, because they think you'll be taken away so wont be able to return what you gave away, so we need to do something more and educate them.

Lauren, Hayes School: Yes I think that's quite important.

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