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Thursday, 3 May, 2001, 15:07 GMT 16:07 UK
Do Europeans have the right not to work?
This week the German politician, Friedrich Merz of the opposition Christian Democrats, proposed that people who do not work should receive food vouchers instead of money, so they do not waste state funds on non-essentials.
This follows the recent comments of the German Social Democrat Chancellor, Gerhard Schroeder that there is "no right to laziness in our society".
He has since commented that those who reject a reasonable job when they can work must expect sanctions. But not everyone agrees. Should Europeans have the right not to work?
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G Martin, Germany
Makes sense to me. Why can't we have something like that here?
If a person can't work due to a disability, the state should support them. Also, what if a person is between jobs, and seriously looking? The state should see them through, though good jobs are going to be harder to come by. On the other hand, if a person doesn't even try, well, considering I've had some experiences trying to help a few people at personal expense, who turned out to be worthless parasites, sure - give them food vouchers.
Society cannot be responsible for somebody who willingly chooses not to contribute to it. Precisely for this reason, the reform of European and especially German and Scandinavian welfare systems is long overdue. Congratulations to Mr. Schroeder and Mr. Merz for stating this publicly - unfortunately they will have a long political struggle before them if they want to live up to what they say.
What's really silly here is that a problem is being raised as if it is something new when in fact this is exactly the issue that has been dealt with in welfare reform in the US for the last decade. In any society there will be people who for one reason or another cannot work, and for whom welfare must be provided, but there will also be people who see a welfare system as something to abuse. The answer has nothing to do with principle, sympathy or morals. It is a classic example of a situation that can only be handled by constant and careful management.
There is no single
"magic" answer that
will handle all cases.
Each case must be
examined on its own.
Of course, this won't
stop people proposing
one silly scheme
after another, each
of which addresses
only the aspect of
the problem about
which they personally
get excited.
If an individual has no wish to work then societies have no right to support them. These individuals should figure out how to support themselves by their own means, not with the help of society.
It's not quite fair to say, Veesa, that all people who don't work actually choose not to work. You are probably a very 'able' person, who has youth, energy, health and stamina. Not everyone is like you. And, thankfully, most of the time in the West, we do live in democratic societies in which it is possible to share wealth - to a degree - and help those who are more needy. I thought that's what the tax system was partly supposed to be about. Not to sound cliched, but we're all in this together. Having said that so virtuously, we shouldn't be encouraged to live off the state, but it should be there if we need it. I do work very hard, but there have been times when I could not.
The reason we live in societies that
are free from the fear of oppression
and upheaval is that a highly literate
and educated population earns money
and pays taxes. When a person chooses
not to contribute to that freedom
and privilege by not working or
raising a family, then they have no
right to be supported by that society.
If an individual has no wish to work
that is fair enough. But do not
expect the taxpayer (i.e. - me) to
pay for them to lay about all day when
I drag myself out of bed at 5.30
every morning, to go to work to
support myself.
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