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Monday, 16 October, 2000, 17:35 GMT 18:35 UK
Are Brits a miserable bunch?
![]() The British are not exactly famous for their jolly disposition, but a new report puts a grim face on the nation's mood.
The survey found a quarter of the population fear a "hopeless future", one in three feels "downright miserable", and one in ten thinks he or she would be better off dead. Are Brits really that miserable? Is it the lousy weather or maybe pitiful public transport that sends people into the doldrums? Tell us what you think. This Talking Point is now closed. A selection of your e-mails are posted below.
Thomas, Canada
The generally miserable British attitude is summed up I think by the traditional response to the question "How are you?" "Not too bad" - the nation seems to be afflicted by a real 'glass half empty' syndrome.
I've never been to Britain (yet) but have always longed to go.
Weather should be no excuse...hey I'm from Canada and trust me...rainy weather doesn't keep you locked in like blizzards!!
£3.70 minimum wage, crime ridden estates, luxury goods advertised all the time, one vote every 5 years.
As for us being a nation of miserable old gits...what about our WORLD-RENOWNED sense of humour? The British have always been able to laugh about misfortune; however, certain people who have written in obviously would rather just feel sorry for themselves and curse their country, not realising how HUGELY lucky they are just to be living here in the first place: Most third world inhabitants would be disgusted to hear this moaning. Mark, UK
Is it any surprise when the government takes over 40% of my wages (VAT, income tax etc.), and provides a level of health service that rivals most 3rd world countries? Look at the state of our country - we are told what not to think, what not to eat, what not to do - and we spend so much time working all the hours God sends just to earn enough to get by. Maybe these scroungers on the dole who get the state to pay for their kids have the right idea.
Britain isn't miserable, all the people that reckon this country is should go clubbing in London or Southampton or Bournemouth. There are people of varied ages really enjoying life in our night clubs and when it's the week again they talk and laugh about how there weekend went.
Roy McBoyd, Scotland
Well not surprising really when MOST people trudge to work on archaic transport systems, are bullied, unappreciated and under huge pressure at work, petrol five pounds a gallon, Ridiculously priced housing especially in London and of course the dreadful climate. Who wouldn't be unhappy??
Long live cynicism and pessimism, I have lived by them both throughout my life and they have made me a much happier person for it. Hurray.
In Britain at the moment there just seems to be so much latent aggression. That, coupled with the bad manners and the "me" society can make something like going to the Post Office or supermarket quite arduous.
Surveys do not always give you the correct answer; if you seek the miserable you will find it. My overall experience and opinion is that Brits have a great sense of humour, are very helpful and very good to be with. Torben Grubbe, Denmark With our expectations set by political spin and tabloid extremism, no wonder we feel permanently disappointed!!!
Yet again another 'debate' on whether Brits are miserable or not... Miserable?! All we do is complain at whether or not we are miserable or not. I'm sick of it. I don't think we are...
The misery is due purely and simply to the weather, which is why we once yearned for an empire on which the sun never set. The empire's gone. The misery is back.
You can't blame the weather for the miserableness of the Brits. I met the meanest, rudest, moaning Brit ex-pats in Melbourne, Australia where both the weather and opportunities to lead an interesting life are fantastic. It must be a genetic trait.
I know because I'm pretty damned miserable myself. Having said that, I'm not sure that the French, Americans (or indeed any other Westerners) are much better. It's all just related to expectation. Peter Turner, France (from UK) I find the figures terribly sad, but not all that surprising. It seems that governments spend so much time undoing what the other has done before embarking on their policies, and the result is pretty stagnant. The people taking part in the survey were logging on to a counselling website, i.e. they are already depressed. The many cheerful people in this country (myself included) are unlikely to go anywhere near a counselling website and so therefore the survey does not represent a cross section of society. This kind of 'media-science' just gets me so angry and downright miserable...
I stayed four years in the UK and I suspect that the typical unhealthy, fatty diet makes many British unfit and unhappy with their looks. Skip the fat, the daily pint and do some work-out instead.
Gaynor Bowman, Puerto Rico
Scott, UK British people are not miserable! They are very friendly and supporting.
If talking about misery it would be better to use expression "reserved" to define Northern Europe's mentality in general and "extraverted" to describe the Southern one.
I'm fed up with the way 80% of the population read rubbish tabloids that push racist, homophobic, anti-foreigner views. And that Labour are too spineless to do anything revolutionary, and that the Tories keep jumping on every populist bandwagon no matter how lowest-common-denominator. It makes me sick and I want to move to Holland. The weather is colder there but at least they've got the important things right.
Nic Thomas, Hungary I am a British expat working in the Middle East. I get to meet a lot of other nationals and I must admit that the Brits are a miserable lot, especially at home in the UK.
It seems that we have lost the art of enjoyment and chit-chat. Perhaps it's the weather or the environment. People do not want to take the time to say hello or simply smile. Everyone seems to be obsessed with their own needs.
This is partly due to our history.
In the past we have seen centuries of expansion and success, now we seem to be in a rut where our influence and culture are being continually eroded. No one has a vision of success, only a vision of dependence on others.
Arun Rattan, Belgium I have spent the last year in an impoverished third world country where there is no free health or education. In addition, the police, military and politicians are some of the most corrupt in the world and anyone with dollars makes the rules. Death is permanently in the neighbourhood, however, in spite of their hopeless lives, the people maintain a cheerful disposition and take every opportunity to laugh at their misfortune.
A still rigid class system and prejudice on the basis of regional accents and a dismal state education system means that the British have a glass ceiling on potential achievement which removes the will to strive.
It is a mood which is noticeable to all who come into the country. For me, I have finished university and now get to experience the world of grumbling, though I am guilty of this myself.
Not all, however, are miserable and we should be thankful for that: fact is I think a ministry for encouragement should be set up and an end put to all those interfering busy body government agencies who believe it necessary to fence our ambitions and hopes into ever smaller cages. John Brownlee, England
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