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Wednesday, 13 September, 2000, 10:10 GMT 11:10 UK
Are unisex toilets in schools a good idea?
![]() A UK school is installing unisex loos in an effort to crack down on bullying, vandalism and smoking.
Teenage girls and boys will be able to mingle by the washbasins in the facilities currently being refurbished at Bramhall High School in Stockport. The toilet will be supervised by a member of staff on duty outside in the corridor. Three sets of single-sex toilets will still be available elsewhere in the school. Do you think communal conveniences could catch on in other schools? Is it wise to mix the sexes? If you're a teenager, would you mind sharing your loos with the opposite sex? This debate is now closed. Your reaction:
Wendy, UK
Try unisex toilets in Parliament first.
How ridiculous! When I was at school only 3 or 4 years ago, I would have absolutely detested this. Has anyone thought about the fact that teenage boys are very immature and, I have no doubt, would harass the girls endlessly?
After reading the head teacher's comments, I feel that single sex toilets are there to protect students who are afraid of going to toilets for reasons of being bullied or harassed. It's an attempt by the school to look into the needs of such students and should be encouraged.
For heaven's sake - give it a try. With both alternatives available, nobody will be forced to use a facility with which they are uncomfortable.
But I'm at a loss to understand why a mixed-sex toilet will stop people from smoking....
As a teenage boy, it is not a comfortable thing to go to the toilet to be confronted by a girl washing her hands. Yes, we do all use the same bathroom at home, but my sister is not using it at the same time as me. I always have the door locked. This option would cause many problems and misery if it became prevalent in other schools.
It's not a bad idea because when I was in my previous school they had unisex toilets.
This needs to be put to rest immediately. It will only lead to more traumas during puberty and humiliation for those who are already bullied and weak etc. The feeble few will be in an even more vulnerable position as the bullies and aggressive kids peer over the cubicles and witness what should not be shared with anyone. The two sexes will egg each other on in embarrassing their victims and kids will carry these horrendous experiences around with them forever. Remember, things that seem like no big deal to adults remain painfully etched in children's hearts and minds forever more, never to be dealt with, causing eternal turmoil. NOT a good idea at ALL.
Rebecker Waite, England Dear Mr John Peckam, if you believe
there is bullying going on in your
school then you should crackdown
on the bullies. This problem has
nothing to do with toilets!
It seems everyone is missing the point
that is, discipline begins at home. A child's
behaviour is a direct reflection of their home
life, and very little else. Co-ed toilets will be
an added burden on already over burden
and under paid teachers.
NO - it is as bad an idea as male and females sharing the same hospital wards!
I feel this is thought out idea I have ever read of. I can't see it help solve bullying or vandalism in even the slightest way. Surely there can be no real advantages.
This school obviously has a total lack of respect for its pupils.
This is another silly idea.
I recall architects who built a post office with a unisex changing room in the 1960s. It was unacceptable, but that didn't occur to these geniuses.
This idea is just plain daft. If they want to stop vandalism, why not have attendants in the toilets? And why not inspect properly and regularly and investigate properly.
I don't think it is a very good idea as there are bounds to have differences between boys and girl¿ Could you imagine that someone could have peeping or staring at you in the toilet? It is not very convenient.
I think someone has been watching too much Ally McBeal.
It would be a good idea if girls could learn to go to the toilet standing up and then it would be easier for the mixed toilet system to work!
Albert P'Rayan, Rwanda Well, as a student I can say that a lot of young people my age are waiting for this kind of thing to happen! I think this idea will have no future. It has nothing to do with Christianity!
I think that toilets should be separate because girls and boys don't tend to like each other.
I was alarmed to read of unisex toilets. Girls and boys heading for or going through adolescence, girls starting periods, do NOT need the added stress of sharing toilets with other children of opposite sex. This is a gimmicky ploy to improve behaviour in loos, which I accept is sometimes terrible. A better answer is camera linked to staff room...or teacher (same sex) on duty INSIDE the toilets area. I am a teacher and a mother.
Jane, Italy
Phil W, UK
With the other traditional facilities on the school grounds...what is the point of this exercise? It seems on the surface to be an experiment in behavioural science with an attempt to change the behaviours of centuries of proper upbringing. Why is this the providence of a school? Shouldn't they be focused on educating in academics? Or is "potty" activities now an educational priority?
Apart from saving on money, vandalism and space I don't think there is much point for unisex toilets. In offices and adult institutions there might be a case but in schools I think it is a ludicrous idea. Teenagers at their stage of development shouldn't have to share their toilets with members of the opposite sex; if schools want to tackle the problems of disrespect in/of their communities then they should teach respect, not simply make the common problem areas smaller by merging them.
It's an obvious idea and it seems to
me inertia is the only reason our
culture has maintained segregated
bathrooms for so long.
Gerry Anstey, England
Does it seem to be a good idea, you ask? Having a girl and a boy in the same bathroom? There are some questions that need answers, but there are others which answer themselves. Just let go to your imagination; imagine what would happen, I can tell you very confidently that every boy and girl will get into a bathroom intentionally! Not to you know what, but to have a bit of that fun known to others as "SEX".
Firstly, teenage boys spend most of
their lives trying to look up girls. Can you imagine the
problems you're going to have with
peeping toms? Secondly, we may do it at home
but we go in one at a time and
we are intimately related to those
people. Finally, can you imagine how
embarrassed you'll be when you
come out of a stall after discharging
the foul-smelling remains of last
nights curry, only to be confronted
by the lovely young lady who's
eye you've been trying to catch
for the last month!
Divyesh, Tanzania
Unfortunately the head teacher does
not take into consideration
the different cultures and beliefs of
pupils who would most certainly
not go to shared toilets.
Well, having experienced the introduction of the same situation in my college, I can tell one thing which is for sure to happen is that the bathrooms will stink more and be more dirty as the urine is spilled around when boys use the bathroom.
What's all the fuss about? The degree of fulmination and pontification I've read is staggering. Responses along the lines of "what a ridiculous idea" are totally unjustified. The system will not infringe on privacy (unless students are particularly self-conscious about washing their hands).
And to those people suggesting a contravention of Health & Safety law: read the headmaster's letter! There are 8 single-sex facilities for boys and girls elsewhere in the school.
I think the issue has been blown out of all proportion.
I would imagine the kids will be too embarrassed to step foot in those loos, I would have been. In my experience the loos, especially the girls' loos, were a place of sanctuary from teachers and hormonal boys. Now there's no escape but I think they'll soon realise that and scrap the whole thing. Jeanne, UK
When I was a teenager I would have loved this. Knowing what I was like as a teenager I can say that this is NOT a good idea!
Ade Talabi, UK
At the end of the day, we all need to use a toilet, whether single sex or not. This school seems to have a lot of money to be able to arrange this and to pay for a teacher to monitor it. I have no doubts that some will find it suitable for "teenage behaviour" but then again you will always get this where ever you go. Has the school got this idea from Ally McBeal? Let's not forget they are adults, not teenagers with raging hormones!! So,
the school is having to employ someone to monitor the toilets.
How many books, or other resources directly related to education, would this buy?
Kevin, UK What a crazy idea! The poor lads will never get a look in at the washbasins and the girls will be forever checking the cubicle walls for peepholes!
Philip S. Hall, UK
As an idea, it's right up there with soluble submarines, chocolate teapots and solar powered torches.
It's immoral, indecent and a bad idea and you know it!!!
It's the separating of people which causes them to behave differently to each other. I like the idea of unisex bathrooms. Once it is commonplace, I'm sure the teacher on duty will no longer be required.
An absolutely ridiculous idea!
Personally, I would feel very uncomfortable about using unisex toilets, and I imagine that women and teenagers would feel even more uncomfortable!
Why can't we accept that men and women are different, and that there are times when it is perfectly natural to segregate them?
Single-sex toilet facilities are only the latest example of the insidious creep of politically correct lunacy into our lives.
Don't be so disgusting! This isn't Ally McBeal, this is real life you silly billies!
Males and females have different plumbing. Why can't they be afforded different plumbing in the loo?
Tell me about any other species on this planet that has separate loos.
Pat Shepherd, UK
Toilets for boys, toilets for girls, toilets for all...Who cares? Will it really make a difference? No. A few days to adjust and it will be a thing of the past.
Rather than eliminate bullying, vandalism and smoking, the unisex bathroom will give the bullies a new set of targets and result in increased incidents of sexual harassment.
Undoubtedly girls and boys perform better academically in single sex schools. But since we have yet to see Toilet Use on the curriculum, there is no logical argument for separate sanitary facilities.
On the other hand, small boys could be ridiculed by gangs of 'girl empowered' ladies and feel insecure about their masculinity. On the good side, mixed bathrooms prevent anyone from making the embarrassing mistake of getting the wrong door. E. Kant, UK
It does seem a little strange to save money on washbasins and then spend it again on the member of staff having to stand outside: as though teachers don't have enough of their time wasted already!
First class idea! After all we all use the same toilet at home. It's time the prudish British attitudes to our natural functions was ended, it's a sad hangover from the Victorian era. Also as girls are cleaner they will hopefully make the toilets a less smelly and messy place that the usual state of boys' toilets in schools.
My school here in Australia has had unisex toilets for years, and they seem to work. The problems which our education system faces are far more fundamental (lack of books, low literacy rate, lack of motivation amongst students with little hope for the future). Perhaps the UK should be proud that they have a system so strong that this minor issue is causing so much fuss.
Dave Jones, UK
Now the boys will spend all of their time in the john looking at the girls.
This is not a good idea. It may also be a breach of health and safety legislation. Let the staff try out the idea first.
Brian, UK I suppose this assumes that only one sex smokes, vandalises and bullies. I wonder what effect this will have on the numbers of exhibitionists, voyeurs and gropers? Ludicrous, totally ludicrous.
Toilets at home tend to be unisex. The only problem I can see with unisex toilets in public places is the male urinal, and having to omit that from future toilet designs hardly seems a great loss.
The bathroom at home is different, because we go in one at a time. My experience in Paris has left me with very bad impression on the so-called "the most romantic city in the world". I think it's uncivilised. Deborah Chan, UK Loo sharing between sexes is not a good idea, quite apart from the fact that it is not in compliance with Health and Safety Regulations, where it clearly states that separate and adequate toilet facilities must be provided by the employer. It's these kind of movements towards a more permissive society that is causing so many teenage pregnancies these days. If children aren't taught any morality and decency in schools, what kind of future do we expect for them?
Why oh why change? The additional cost for separate washbasins must be quite low compared to the overall costs of refurbishment.
John Peckham, head teacher of Bramhall High school, responds to the controversy:
Students may feel slightly uncomfortable in the joint facility and therefore not want to hang around. Their view is that this is much better than the fear and anxiety felt by some students going into single-sex toilets where older students can do what they like without staff supervision. At present, some of our students feel so frightened of the toilets, they simply do not go - all day! A slight discomfort is probably preferable to this. We also have four other all girls toilets and four all boys - no-one will be forced to use this space.
They are being designed so that they are easy for one person to supervise, to minimise any risk. Unfortunately today, should two young people wish to engage in sexual activity, they will probably do so in far more comfortable surroundings than these!
Two single-sex toilets require one man and one woman to supervise them - usually from outside the room. These toilets have the privacy built into the
cubicles, and can be supervised by one member of staff of either gender.
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