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Friday, 7 April, 2000, 14:45 GMT 15:45 UK
Could you ditch your mobile?
![]() Mobile phones have never-ending bad press. First we were told they fry your brain, so people bought hands-free kits. Now research tells us the headsets don't protect us at all - in fact the Consumers Association say it increases the amount of radiation passed on to users.
Disclaimer: The BBC will put up as many of your comments as possible but we cannot guarantee that all e-mails will be published. The BBC reserves the right to edit comments that are published.Yet you can't move for mobile phone users, shops, advert hoardings or masts. You might think they were what kept society going. The mobile phone companies certainly think so - they are falling over themselves to buy the UK's next generation of licences and have so far bid more than £10bn - twice as much as expected.
But are mobiles really that useful to us? Are the airwaves full of people making superfluous contact just to while away the time? Do the stories of radiation scare you? Will you be throwing away your mobile phone and hands-free kit?
The public's verdict - as voted by travellers at London's Euston Station.
The software salesman
Danny Mallinson, a computer software sales manager from Basingstoke, Hampshire.
What was that call?
Was it urgent?
What would you have done before you had your mobile?
The PR manager
Gloria Satin, a PR manager from London, was seeing off her mother, who had been visiting for the weekend.
What was that call?
Was it urgent?
What would you have done before you had your mobile?
The schoolgirl
Lizzie Smith, 14, from Congleton, Cheshire, was returning home with her parents after a weekend break.
What was that call?
Was it urgent?
Would you be without your mobile?
Lizzie's parents: "No she definitely wouldn't. It's practically part of her hand."
The apprentice
Lee Hellewell, 18, from Rochester, Kent, was waiting for a train to Coventry for an apprentice electricians' course.
What was that call?
Was it urgent?
What would you have done before you had your mobile?
"I know five people here waiting for the same train and they've all been on their mobiles." The student
Samuel Palmer, 20, a social policy and economics student from London, was about to visit his mother in Watford.
What was that call?
Was it urgent?
What would you have done before you had your mobile?
Would you do without it?
"I've had it for about 18 months, and before that I had a pager - although that was rather irritating, as people would leave you a message and then you'd have to mess about trying to call them back. "But I think mobiles are like cars - you wouldn't want to be without your own but everyone else's are really annoying." Mobile phones are expensive, annoying and bad for your health. Sometimes it's good to be out of touch.
I have had two mobile phones in the last few years and found that after the initial novelty I barely used them. I am happier (and financially better off) without one. I have answer phones both at home and work. As far as I am concerned if I am out I am out. If I am with one friend I doubt that they appreciate me spending the time on the phone to another.
For the next 1 hour 15 minutes, she cannot have stopped loudly yakking on her mobile phone for more than a total of 10 minutes, making several non-urgent calls between the same 3 people (believe me I didn't WANT to listen). This was without so much as a single "Do you mind if I use my phone?". That coupled with the noisy irritating tune when these people returned her call distracted me from absorbing myself in my quiet non-disruptive activity for the entire journey and meant that I arrived at my destination bad-tempered and irritable. I have no objection to phones for emergency use, but I object strongly when they cause interference in someone else's business. Anon, UK
I think mobile phones are a good invention, in that when you're in a state of emergency and no where near a payphone, you've got one on you that can save your life (or someone else's life), or save you from walking to a phone on a wet night on the motorway etc. What I don't like seeing is little kids who have just turned 12 walking around, messing with mobiles, I don't really think they need mobiles.
Business people who are constantly on the run can do with a mobile.
I on the other hand have never had a mobile and don't intend to have one in the future too.
Zafras, UK Instant gratification, instant service, you become so used to it's "convenience" you grow to entirely depend on it. Sounds like addiction to me. My employer wanted me to get one, I refused, for business it is more of a leash around your neck than a convenience.
I bought my mobile phone ten years ago, as a fashion accessory (I'm ashamed to admit). But I couldn't live without it now. I use as a means of contacting my girlfriend, who is abroad (via the internet). I use it as an alternative to the "house phone".
I used to have a mobile phone, but got rid of it. I got fed up with the first question asked being "Where are you?" It makes me laugh when I'm on the train and someone's phone rings and the first thing they say is "I'm on the train".
Although, yes, some phone users seem to lack a few social skills. I think it's generally great to hear conversation on the tube, whether it is taking place over the phone or with a fellow passenger, whatever the topic. Sometimes people glare at me if I so much as have a laugh with a friend who is sitting beside me on the tube. Chill out! Could I ditch my mobile? No. Technology and modern life are exciting. We shouldn't live in the past. Deborah, UK I am currently living in Austria where the mobile phone craze has started. I went to the opera the other night to watch 'Madame Butterfly' and just as she was about to commit suicide, with dagger poised, raised above her head, a mobile phone started to ring. Get a life!
Can anyone explain how some of the stupid users making inane calls during peak periods can possibly afford rates of around 30 pence per minute?
Mobile phones are not a fetish; they are just like any other technological invention: You have to use them moderately, and wisely, and they'll be harmless and useful. Pirjo Tervakoski, Finland
Fierce competition has made the price of mobile phones lower. But I don't think approval of abusing mobile phone due to the experience monthly fees. Thus, I think mobile phone should mainly help businessmen to communicate and earn money, not for people to entertain.
John Howes, UK The mobile phone is for the life of a person who needs business and family contacts. Without the mobile phone life would not be as productive to the day. Each day the contact with communication for accomplishment is for instant conversation. I am very aware of the importance of my mobile, and grateful to have one.
Most if not all phones have a ring function which starts off quiet and increases in volume; some also have a "discreet" function, meaning it only bleeps once. Measures such as these promote tolerance towards others who have to listen to noisy rings. And if I do have to shout, I say I'll call back later when I can hear the other person properly. Mobiles have recently become so important to life in general, and their importance can only increase, so people will have to learn how to use them properly.
I wouldn't mind so much if the manufacturers would dispense with the idiotic dial tones. Personally speaking they are a godsend and I feel sorry for those people who long for the good old days - what ever they are.
Its funny isn't it - I find my own mobile hugely convenient from time to time (car broken down, last minute change of plans etc) and yet I find other people's use mildly annoying. I think that's because some users shout into the phone. Maybe some feedback to the earpiece of the transmission would help them to speak at a normal volume.
Don't have one,
don't need one,
don't intend to get
one.
For the first time in a while my car broke down on the M4 the other day. It was raining, so I was glad to be able to use my mobile to ring the AA instead of walking to an emergency phone. Unfortunately, I didn't know exactly where I was, so I ended up walking to the phone anyway so that I could read the ID number off of it.
Peter Moore, UK I have a pay-as-you-go and will not be ditching it. I only use it in emergencies, i.e. breakdowns etc and have used less than £20 in 1 year for other urgent calls.
I've had a mobile now for 9 months and have found it invaluable for those unpredictable situations in which you need help!
In Tanzania the public telephone company is extremely inefficient and corrupt. For a variety of reasons the waiting for a fixed line telephone in the capital is at least a month. In other parts of the country it is difficult if not impossible to have a telephone installed. Therefore mobiles have made it possible for thousands who were previously unable to do so, to communicate. In some developing countries mobile telephones are a necessity and not a luxury.
Especially disgusting are the teenagers who identify their personality with mobile telephones. Actually the exhibitionism of mobile-trotters is becoming pathetic.
Mark M. Newdick, USA/UK I recently travelled from Philadelphia to New York City by train. I was sat next to a young woman for most of the journey. She spent a complete hour talking to various people through her mobile phone. I know her name, where she lives, the company she works for, her job, her boyfriend's name, her favourite Italian restaurant, her favourite Californian wine and the names of most of her immediate colleagues. I discovered that she is to travel to Europe and have a good idea of her itinerary. Had I been a competitor, I could well have pre-empted her marketing pitches. All this was bad enough, but the worst feature was the way in which everyone in the carriage looked at me in the same way that people looked with relief and pity on the hapless individual that was sat next to Jasper Carrot's fictitious "nutter on the bus".
Just this morning, my male boss came back into the office after visiting the toilet and told me that there was a bloke also visiting the toilet, who was holding his mobile with his free hand!
Yesterday, just before midnight on the last train from Victoria back to South London, myself and other weary passengers were aptly demonstrated the usefulness of mobiles by a fellow commuter bellowing "...a Chicken Chow Mein...CHICKEN...CHOW...MEIN! Yes...and a banana fritter...A FRITTER! I'm ON THE TRAIN.... there in
10 minutes.... Hello? HELLO!" The boundaries of mobile comms moves yet again.
As a parent of a young child it's vital to be contactable - but you don't need to use it non-stop. As a tube user, on a train with a hundred
school kids its abominable. Working in the city with all those people shouting to themselves it's almost too much for sanity.
I like the idea of 'phone users carriages' though.
I went to one of the Proms last year. The conductor walked on stage to warm applause, bowed, turned to the orchestra and raised his baton. An expectant hush fell over the Albert Hall. Then someone's mobile phone went off. How about compulsory IQ tests for prospective purchasers of these vulgar devices?
I have a mobile phone, and still cherish it from the day I broke down in my car at 11.30pm at night in a strange town. Thankfully I called the RAC from the safety of my car, rather than having to walk for miles trying to find a phone. Could I live without my phone - easily, but I wouldn't feel so safe going out on my own.
To Dave Miller, USA:
In Japan the number of mobile phones recently overtook the number of regular phones. I couldn't believe Japanese mobiles when I first came here; they are tiny, weigh nothing and most now have virtually full use of the internet. I'm switching to a full colour version in a few weeks, to receive pictures/photos/animation etc, which is the latest craze. I can't imagine being without it and hope that when I go home to England the industry has caught up.
Recently during a Sting concert, the girl behind me spent the whole 2 hours either talking to a friend about the concert or holding the mobile up for the friend to hear the music. Mobiles, like most things, have their uses but there is a time and a place and all too often, a minority of inconsiderate people give all users a bad name!
David, UK
Mobile phones like guns are just objects. They only become a problem when they are inappropriately used.
It will be a sad day for London when they sell off the excess capacity in the new London Underground communications system to mobile phone network operators.
I love communicating but I can't stand the mobile phone. About 18 months ago I put mine in a bin on the way home from work and have never had one since.
Yes, humans have lived thousands of years without them. And yes, we still could today. But the ability to communicate with anyone anywhere wherever you are is a great thing and people should keep using them and making them better.
I don't feel safe without my Nokia 3210. And I use my handsfree whenever I can. I average 30min/day.
Worried about radiation? Why don't you get rid of your television and your microwave oven? One turns you into a sheep and the other irradiates your food to complete nothingness. Maybe we should have a long hard look at the way our supposedly civil society runs and not shoot the messenger.
I'm not addicted. I can quit anytime I want. Honest!
If mobiles mean that people can leave the workplace earlier, get home earlier and still do their jobs, that bodes well for British family life. The problem is the noise. For years, the Japanese bullet train has kindly requested all mobile users stand in the area between the carriages. The UK could do introducing a few mobile "norms" and then people might not get so het up.
John, UK I have owned a phone for 4 months and only rarely appreciate its usefulness. The main advantage is having it close by to use, more than the amount it is actually used. For women, it is a reassurance that contact with home or the police is only a press of a button away. However, it is not always desirable to be contacted at all times - the only other option is to face others' anger at not being able to speak to you when it is turned off. So, yes, I could easily give it up... but not just yet!
When I see those people walking around and talking into their mobile, or being all around the places and ringing, I am convinced it has fried their brains
It has always been obvious to me that hands-free mobiles damage the brain more than hand held. Hands free users tend to shout even louder than hand held ones.
Chris Ashley, UK I only use my mobile at weekends whilst I am away at our caravan. It is the only way I can keep in touch with my father in case of emergencies.
As I travel a number of miles on the motorway I also think it is reassuring if I break down I don't have to worry about getting to a motorway phone
I was shocked to read Simon King's revelation that 60% of people living in this country are missing a vital element of everyday life. How do they manage? Can you get free mobiles from the NHS?
I've just ditched my phone - I was making 1 call a week.
I want to know whether all the people around me, using their mobiles,
are causing me problems. What is the effective range of radiation from
a mobile handset ?
I think they are a great Idea, especially if one is on the move, or for young people to have for security. But I think people use them too much. Often I see people using them when there is a normal phone beside them! People should use them less. I don't have one myself though.
Peter Kohler, USA I'm on the train;
I have a mobile phone.
I stare at it, I caress it;
willing it to ring.
It rings!
I answer, 'hello, I'm on the train'.
How do people manage without a mobile phone?
Mobile Phones? Work of the Devil, if you ask me.
Made for people with nothing to say, to talk to people who don't want to listen.
Does anybody make a mobile-phone jammer? I once heard of a cheap personal stereo which upset mobiles. Wonder where I can get one...?
Phones are not only great for delayed train travellers. I think they are great for walkers and other outdoor sports where safety is paramount. There has been several instances of lives being saved thanks to mobiles
This is especially addressed to John: I commute to and from London during the week. That hour's train journey is a welcome break from a busy job (where I am surrounded by and gladly use all the latest technology) and I can read, doze and unwind. However, I appear to be surrounded by inconsiderate people who force you to listen to their idiotic, moronic, inane telephone conversations (I call them 'I'm on the trainers') with people they will meet within the next half hour or so. Call me intolerant but I would like to banish them to the Guards van. Aaargh!
I have a mobile. Permanently switched off, unless I've arranged for someone to call me back. It's useful, but I could do without it as it's just another expense in a rip-off society.
I hate their use on trains and all users of them on trains should be banished to one carriage along with smokers and personal stereo users.
I had a mobile phone for 18 months and thought that I could never live again without it. I have now been without it for 2 months, and never been happier. I have my privacy back. No more interruptions and having to keep track of messages, etc....
Ditch it? Nah. Never got on the mobile phone bandwagon I'm pleased to say. Only one valid use for it as far as I can see - you're a single woman and your car has broken down in the middle of nowhere at the dead of night. I think it could come in useful then...
Mobiles, like most things, are fine in moderation and used sensibly. The dangers of people using them whilst driving (I saw one person on the M3 with one hand on the mobile and a cigarette in the other) is solely due to the selfishness and stupidity of the user. I can also relate to the comment about restaurants and trains - I am not really that interested in whether Sarah is still going out with Jack and neither is the rest of the train carriage or the restaurant. Again - it comes down to not being selfish and being considerate towards other people.
I live in greater London and often see girls late at night walking home from the bus stop or the train station on their mobiles. Usually the girls are talking to a friend or their parents through their journey home. As far as I am concerned this is a massive benefit. It's reassuring for the parents and safer for the teenagers. You couldn't do that with a payphone...unless you were very strong and had a long phone extension!
We could probably all do without TV's and microwaves, but does that really mean we should? Mobile telecommunications have been an essential resource to many businesses for years. It's progress and here to stay.
The idea that a mobile is a social gadget is outrageous, although they clearly have their uses for business, how annoying is it when a group of friends go for a drink and chat and every five minutes a phone rings, ruining good conversation.
Simon King, UK I believe I could make a lot of money
by inventing a remote mobile phone
disabling device. Maybe by sending out
huge burst of electromagnetic radiation
we could fry the circuitry of the all
mobiles in the local vicinity. I bet
there are a few people out there that
would buy it for any price!
I reckon the majority of the population could do without mobile phones. For many they are just a toy not an essential tool.
Angus Macpherson, England It seems that car rage is now being replaced by phone rage. Your contributors call for segregation of phone users so as to enjoy peace, irritation of not being able to cope with a 15 minute train journey and pure snobbery of being forced to listen to a Peer Gynt ring tone.
This is precisely the intolerance to which I referred.
Why the hell should I give up my mobile phone? It gives me an extra level of security and means that I am always contactable by elderly parents, friends and others. I can always switch it off and would not of course have it on in a Church or at a formal occasion. There will always be the Luddites who attack any advance in technology. As for the so called annoyance of those using mobile phones in public places, trains, etc I would far rather have that than the screams and tantrums of uncontrolled, badly behaved children which is all too common these days.
Mobile phones are toys for exhibitionists. Get a life, we really CAN live without them!
Over recent years, mobile phones
have become more of a fashion
accessory - this is undeniable. One
only has to look at the designs of
the phones and - especially - the
number of school children using them.
But for many people, they are a
necessity and to have to do without
them would be equivalent to being
forced to do without your car.
I got rid of my mobile 4 months ago and never looked back. I can understand the need for certain sections of society to have a mobile phone but most people could probably wait until they got home and read their messages on their answer machines.
I used to think it was indispensable not now, if I'm in London I just use a payphone instead.
I've had a phone for three years now and I cannot imagine all the times it's been handy, however most of the time I could use a payphone if I'm out or my home phone when I am in - so really I have to admit I don't need it, but I can't live without it! Giving up smoking would be easier! David A. O'Reilly, UK
Having endured many a mobile phone conversation while on the move, I have observed that 90% of the time, people are just talking rubbish. I think people just like to tell everyone else about their day. I would argue that only a very small majority of people actually NEED to use their phones and should be segregated from the rest of us who like to travel in peace.
I live in greater London and often see girls late at night walking home from the bus stop or the train station on their mobiles. Usually the girls are talking a friend or their parents through their journey home. As far as I am concerned this is a massive benefit its reassuring for the parents and safer for the teenagers. You couldn't do that with a payphone...unless you were very strong and had a long phone extension!
With mobile jobs for both my wife and I (her job in Sales Support and mine travelling across Europe 50% of the time) a mobile telephone is essential to keep in contact. Schedules are often changed/delayed meaning pre-arrangements are futile!
I have two jobs, three offices and travel around a large city for work. And I do not have a mobile phone. And I am not intending to obtain one. I can only agree with some of the other comments that much of the use of these phones is trivial and out of habit (and an expensive habit at that).
Mobile communication is and will remain as essential as the need to communicate itself. People can never go back.
Lucy, Malaysia
Having a mobile when I was in my early 20s was my only source of independence. My parents knew that wherever I was, they could call and if I wanted to tell them I'd not be home, then I could call them. It meant I could have my own life and neither of us would worry about not being in touch.
In reply to John of London: You can't be serious in pleading for tolerance when using your mobile on a train, are you? My journey home from work is typically 15 minutes, and is entirely taken up with the whole gamut of tones that mobiles play. (I own a mobile, but it remains switched off where it might irritate innocent others).
Many mobile users on a train do not speak into their phone, they SHOUT. It means that while you want to have a quiet read, or nap you are subjected to having to listen to one side of a conversation. And there is another thing - as I typed that last sentence I was subjected to a piece from Peer Gynt being massacred as the "ring" of someone's phone. Hearing great music being reduced to a sequence of bleeps is, in my mind, pretty tasteless. In short, if folks could please have a quieter ring, that is just that - fine. If they talk quietly and the phones are sophisticated enough to allow this - fine. Andy, UK
Ben Ray, UK I want to be available to talk on the
phone when I want, and not when
other people want.
So I can live without a mobile.
I can live without a television too.
In fact I do live without both.
But I couldn't live without email!
Mobiles have become a vital piece of equipment.
How much money is saved to industry through their people being able to communicate better, faster etc.
Fortunately, I have a life and don't need a mobile to go shopping or a laptop to impress (who??) while I'm in a plane or a restaurant. Watching videos on a mobile phone-now that's sad. It's all going to end in tears... one day. Greg, UK Most of the population have one in fear of being left out from their friends and peer pressure I imagine is why many schoolchildren have one. The reason why I have one is because I don't want to pay BT the excessive line rental charges when the money could be spent on a non rental top up mobile phone. This option is much cheaper for those of us on a budget.
I am one of the few people who could have bought a mobile phone but I have not done so. I don't need one.
However, I am grateful for the common usage of mobile phones - it means that the good old common phone boxes are never occupied when I require one!!!!
I think mobile companies should be looking into making mobiles safer for the users, I believe the next mobile company to make the big wave will be the one that comes out with cancer free mobile handsets. watch this space!!!! Mustaque, UK
Living in Kent and working in London I find my mobile invaluable. On a regular basis I find myself stranded at a station in London as my train is cancelled or delayed. I could use a public phone in a station but where the mobile really comes into its own is when you sit just outside the station for 20 mins or longer.
Martin B, UK
Here are some of my experiences with mobiles, over this past weekend:
I've only just got a mobile - thanks to the generosity of my boss - I could quite happily do without it - I like to be uncontactable now and then. But there have been one or two times when it's been useful - especially for other people because I hardly ever check my ansaphone.
It has got to the stage now many people use only our mobiles. The days of BT's stranglehold are gone. I only hope that the phone companies will stop the scandal of charging exorbitant amounts for calls to rival networks.
What does annoy me though is the reaction of some passengers on trains. Many seem to look down on phone users and you can almost hear them going tut tut. Why can't they be more tolerant? John, London, England
I carry a mobile in my car all the time, but only
use it for urgent messages. I have had
one approximately 5 years, but only
use it about 3 to 5 times per month.
Anything that encourages communication can't be all that bad.
I work for a Mobile Phone Service Provider and the number of people who "run their business" through their mobile phones is scary! What would they do if the whole network crashed and it was beyond the network's control?
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