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Is the Turner Prize still relevant?
Gillian Carnegie
This year's Turner Prize has provided a different kind of shock after a more conventional still life and landscape artist was shortlisted for the award.

Gillian Carnegie, who exclusively uses paint as a medium, is one of four artists vying for the 25,000 prestigious prize.

Past winners of the controversial prize have included a cow in formaldehyde, a light going on and off and a portrait painted using elephant dung.

What is your reaction to this year's shortlist for the Turner Prize? Do you think the Turner Prize is the best way to celebrate British art? Send us your comments.

This debate is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below.


The following comments reflect the balance of opinion we have received so far:

It a prize for people who can't draw or paint or do anything artistic. Gillian Carnegie won't win because she has real talent. You need to make something out of animal dung to win the Turner Prize.
Nic, England

The Turner Prize is meaningless self-congratulation by the arty in-crowd. The winners only show who is fashionable in those circles this year, it has no other cultural significance.
Richard Read, London, UK

The words Turner Prize and relevant are only applicable together when combined with is not, never has been and never will be.
James, Hull, UK

There must be a lot of weirdoes out there to think that a light going on and off and pictures of empty coke bottles mounted on walls is art. I must be missing the point or something but I do not see any art in that, I'm sorry.
Joe, London

Gillian Carnegie stands no chance of winning the Turner Prize, she is too talented an artist.
Barb, Eastbourne

The Turner Prize has always reflected what goes on in the London art world
Luke, Loughborough
The Turner Prize has always reflected what goes on in the London art world. It relied on the shock tactics of the Damien Hirst generation in the past, and although a return to more traditional methods is welcome, I fear the press and public's appetite for less controversial methods will dwindle. It may become less of a money spinner for the Tate, but the art should benefit, and be taken more seriously as a result.
Luke, Loughborough, England

Art is an expression of the artist; it appeals to some and not to others. Because you don't understand it doesn't mean you should ridicule it.
Richard W, Lancashire, UK

I don't think anything is wrong with exhibiting things like Coke cans with flags sticking out of them or a pile of peeled bananas. To each their own! JMW Turner himself, who the prize is named for, was accused of having, amongst other things, of loose handling, so he did not follow conventional rules. What upsets me is how anyone can judge whether something is worthy of a prize or not. Surely a small group of people imposing their aesthetic ideas on an art form will inevitably set a list of rules and anyone, no matter how brilliant their creation, who does not follow them will be left out in the cold.
Sarah, Manchester, England

Can any of us define what is art? The Turner Prize sparks debate and controversy - that's what we need to engage with the general public.
Mark Gutterman, Cheshire, England

Why does art always have to be drawings, sculptures and paintings? Whatever happened to encouraging freedom of expression and diversity, channelling thoughts into whatever media you felt apt? I for one welcome the annual Turner Prize. Sure, I may not like some exhibits or agree with some artists but I respect their work and messages they convey. Sometimes though it can be a case of "art for art's sake" but for now, why don't we try to enjoy the work of these artists - everyone is entitled to an opinion, and opinions are never correct or incorrect. As a nation, we should be applauding creativity and imagination and perhaps loosen that stiff upper lip that we appear to breed.
Genevieve, Cardiff

An unmade bed, a box of balls scattered on the floor. They should see my son's room I would be quids in. As for art, you must be kidding!
Peter, Edinburgh, Scotland

Of course the Turner Prize is still relevant. It puts British artistic talents and ideas into the public consciousness. It's a shame that many people cannot grasp these ideas because they don't use traditional paint. To moan that something they see could be knocked up five minutes is an insult to the artist and their creative efforts. However, this year the Turner nominees are perhaps more public friendly which can only be a good thing.
Andrew Moss, UK

The Turner Prize has succeeded very well over the years in bringing a wide variety of art to the attention of the general public
Milton, Bath, UK
I prefer not to say whether art is good or bad but rather it is different. The Turner Prize has succeeded very well over the years in bringing a wide variety of art to the attention of the general public and looks to be doing so again this year. Whether or not I would pay to either see or buy certain works of art is another matter. Certainly the Turner Prize generates comment.
Milton, Bath, UK

One person's art, is another person's poison! Turner Prize art bores me, however, it appeals to others - each to their own.
Colin Grant, Manchester, UK

What can I say? It's art. The people who use elephant dung and such like are very creative and should deserve the Turner Prize.
Sarah Boden, London, UK

Seems that EU and the Turner prize have something in common, they are both massively out of touch with the public.
Rob, UK

Is it still relevant? I wasn't aware that it ever had been relevant.
Charles, London

The Turner Prize has been subject to ridicule because the 'art' involved does not seem to require any great skill. There is a tendency in modern art to create art works that require an explanation from the artist. The skill of an artist should lie in the ability to convey an idea without words. Perhaps this year's nominations show that they have realised this?
Franchesca Mullin, Belfast

I may not always agree with all the entrants for the Turner Prize, but it always seems to get people talking about art which is surely a good thing.
Mike, Liverpool

At last! A real artist. Perhaps Gillian Carnegie will bring back some respect to the Turner, after all those horrendous pieces of rubbish. Real art is beauty, not a comment on how lousy you think your life is.
Jennifer Hynes, Plymouth, UK

The Turner Prize is anything but consistent, lacking credibility, this is why the wider public have lost interest.
Eddie Espie, Cookstown

What? When was it ever relevant? Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to fill a large plant pot with barb wire and cigarette ends. But is it art?
Stuart, Grimsby, Lincs

Whenever I hear the term 'installation' my blood runs cold. Bathrooms and kitchens are installed, not works of art.
Lorraine, St Alban, UK

The Turner Prize is pathetic, pointless and an insult to the great artist himself
Simon, Chelmsford
A metal bus stop, a digital clock inside a shipping container, a light going off, elephant dung and a homemade motorbike - The Turner Prize is pathetic, pointless and an insult to the great artist himself. Lets be honest this is only really for the artistic bourgeoisie who are debunk from reality and everyday life.
Simon, Chelmsford

The best way to celebrate British art is to shortlist works of art in the first place, not something you could knock together in five minutes down the pub.
James, UK

Does that mean that I can't enter my pile of empty beer cans?
Rod Watson, Winchester, Hants

Is any prize which relies on subjective criteria for its award relevant? Judging art and literary merit cannot be undertaken objectively, therefore to award prizes for artistic and literary merit is a bit of a farce.
Pauline Fothergill, Halifax, United Kingdom

In one way I am glad that the Turner Prize might now actually be awarded to people with artistic talent rather than those who appeal to sensationalism alone. However, for those not in the Turner prize clique, it was always good cause for an annual nationwide giggle.
David Mercier, Kent, UK

What a joy for the 99.99% of people who equate art with talent and skill and not almighty pretentiousness to see some real pictures on the list this time.
Terry, Harrogate, Yorkshire

The Turner Prize is as relevant today as it ever was or ever will be. As with art in general it's very much down to the individual. I won't make my own opinions on the prize known because the BBC won't publish offensive comments!
Peter, Nottingham

I thought it was supposed to be the artist who suffered for his art and not the people looking at it
Lee W, Dagenham
I thought it was supposed to be the artist who suffered for his art and not the people looking at it. At least one entrant this year actually uses real paint.
Lee W, Dagenham

A Turner Prize candidate who uses paint? Whatever next, chicken nuggets that contain chicken meat?
Ron Levy, Rayleigh, UK

We should celebrate the Turner Prize and our contribution to contemporary art. It seems sad that the British always have to knock the things that they do well.
Griff, Cardiff, Wales

Amazing - they have actually chosen a "proper" painting! There is hope for the art world at last.
Caroline, Sheffield, UK

There goes my chance of the prize. Looks like you need artistic ability now.
Roger, UK

The best way to celebrate British art is to go and view it. Preferably for free. And I'm with Roger: nice to see artists who have been genuinely creative shortlisted this year.
Alex, Colchester, UK




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