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Should radicals be deported?
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Have the circumstances of national security changed sufficiently to warrant deportation?

Ten foreign nationals who the Home Office says pose a threat to national security have been detained in the UK.

Raids in Leicestershire, London, Luton and the West Midlands occurred on Thursday following an agreement between the UK and Jordan that deportees would not be persecuted.

Home Secretary Charles Clarke said that "The circumstances of our national security have changed, it is vital that we act against those who threaten it."

Will deportation lessen the threat of terrorism? Do you agree with Charles Clarke's statement or will it impact too heavily on human rights?

Did you witness the raids? Do you have pictures? If so, please send them to yourpics@bbc.co.uk

This page is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below.

The following comments reflect the balance of opinion we have received so far:

The rights of the British people far outweigh the rights of the foreigners in this instance
Anthony Thomas, Aberdeen, Scotland
Any country should have the absolute right to deport foreign nationals who are considered to be potentially dangerous. The rights of the British people far outweigh the rights of the foreigners in this instance.
Anthony Thomas, Aberdeen, Scotland

Absolutely not. Free speech is a right. If it is OK to throw foreigners out of the country, then the reverse should apply. Brits could be thrown out of other countries too. Note: There are more Brits abroad then foreigners in Britain.
Peter, Edinburgh

Why would we put the human rights of a few extremist non-nationals above those of the majority law-abiding indigenous population? To those who say that deporting them puts them out of our reach, what alternative is there Society must make it's choices.
Andrew Jarvis, Vantaa, Finland

Yes definitely, but if this is going to be a slow legal process why not intern them, pending extradition, in a remote part of the UK such as the Scilly Isles or Orkney Islands far from populated areas and in spartan conditions?
Brian, Coquitlam, BC, Canada

Unless they're citizens of the country, why shouldn't they? If they are guests of a country, the country has the right to deny their stay. If they are already citizens of the country, that means the country's immigration system has a problem. If they were born in the country where do you want to deport them to?
Roy, Vancouver, Canada

We should not allow our tolerance to be abused
David Andrews, Basingstoke, UK
If these people seek refuge in the UK and then abuse our generosity then they should be expelled from the country. We should not allow our tolerance to be abused, or twisted into a smokescreen for agitators to hide behind.
David Andrews, Basingstoke, UK

Radicals guilty of treason against the British people should be tried and locked up indefinitely, not let loose to launch their mayhem from outside the UK!
Rob Johnson, Tunbridge Wells, UK

if they can not obey the laws of their adopted country, then they should be deported immediately, regardless of human rights laws.
Derek, Einnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Other countries deal firmly with anyone who threatens national security, at last we appear to be doing the same.
Roger Parrott, Warrington, UK

If you don't support the team, get out of the stadium! Why stay here when you hate it so much! If you hate it that much then you will be happy to leave.
Jack, Manchester

Radicals irrespective of their faith, race, colour have no place in todays civilised world.They are a scar on todays civilised world.The recent measures taken by the British administration were long over due. Please spare the innocents.
Abdulla Afzal, Kinshasa, RDC

The people who live in the country have their human rights too - to be protected from terrorists. At the moment I am living in France and I can assure you that they are sent home from here. France and the people come first and that is as it should be. These extremists show no mercy to others. If the fact that they will be tortured upsets people here then it should be taken up at government level with the countries concerned and we should not be made to feel that it is our duty to worry about their safety when they are destroying ours.
Pat Hutchings, Le Thor, France.

Charles Clarke may think it is a good way to lessen the threat of terrorism but I think it can lead to worse problems by making them more debased, excluded and they can bring more violent terrors. We also should not suspect all the Middle Eastern or Asian people as terrorists. Your country, England is a country which is really concerned about human-rights. Therefore, the English should not try to stop terrorists by exiling them but by strengthening security.
Kim DooHee, Korea

They should be deported, for the greater good of the UK
David Scott, Winchester, UK
Absolutely. These people are using the freedom of our society, that all Britons enjoy, to preach hate. Their aim is to end the tolerant and free life which we lead, through their distorted view of how the world should be. They should be deported, for the greater good of the UK.
David Scott, Winchester, UK

Deportation can be the only right answer for non-nationals who preach hatred against us in this country. They claim to be exercising the right to "freedom of expression", which everyone has a right to do - but with rights, come responsibilities, and they have a responsibility not to incite hatred or violence. So, they are deporting themselves by abusing their own rights.
Mark McCabe, Glasgow, Scotland

This whole "things have changed" nonsense is a mimic of my own president. Here, we have had previous attacks (1993) and you didn't hear Clinton saying this. Granted, 9/11 was worse, but it was not the first. Do not let your country turn into the police state mine is becoming. It only makes things worse.
Nicole Houston, Albany, NY, US

There's an argument for keeping them where our authorities can get at them
David Hazel, Fareham, UK
Something worth bearing in mind: Osama Bin Laden isn't in this country (as far as anyone knows) yet that hasn't made him any less of a threat to us. There's an argument for keeping them where our authorities can get at them if they need to. Assuming, of course, we have the political will to curb their ability to poison minds.
David Hazel, Fareham, UK

I understand the importance of a deep and universal concern for human rights. However, when we become more concerned about a potential violation of the rights of a person declaring openly that their goal is the destruction of a culture that is giving them protection and shelter than about the very real threat to life and limb they present, we are in big trouble. The "I am holier-than-Thou" approach (a close relative of the "White man's burden" of yesteryear, in my opinion) serves no one but a few inflated egos. We are not holier (or more caring, or more concerned), than anyone. We want to live, and let live. If the "let live" part escapes some of those seeking refuge among us, they have to fend for themselves.
Sarka, San Francisco, US

We live in an age of comprehensive global communication; the deportation of a few extremists will change nothing, except to place them where we cannot see them. Better to let them stay, where the security forces may keep them under close surveillance.
Philip, Great Wakering, UK

No. Deportation will not help. They are angry and they won't stop just because they get thrown out. There will always be other ways to cause trouble. The solution is fixing the problem, not all these elementary security changes.
Alex, Ferrum, VA

Certainly deportations for such people are right: if there are dangers of torture or execution in their country of origin, let them have the right to nominate another country to accept them (if that country wishes to accept them). I see no need for further safeguards: those who seek our protection must be prepared to respect our values.
Nick, Great Yarmouth, UK

These measures should have been introduced long time back. I have been living in the UK for almost 3 years and I believe that anyone who do not respect this country or its way of life please go away and let other decent immigrants live in peace.
Pelifa French, UK

We are becoming a laughing-stock, weak, able to be manipulated by unscrupulous opponents of our way of life
Margaret Stoll, Rochford, Essex
Although these people have been arrested, it will apparently be weeks before they can actually be sent out of the country. Human rights lawyers will have a field day in the meantime, agonising about what we're sending them back to. Well, it's simple. If they were at risk of persecution and torture and were given 'indefinite right to stay' (as well as claiming benefits for which we've all paid in our taxes) then they should be grateful for being given shelter and shouldn't make speeches against our way of life, condoning terrorists and encouraging violence under the guise of 'jihad'. If they do all these things they should be expelled. Why pussyfoot around? We are becoming a laughing-stock, weak, able to be manipulated by unscrupulous opponents of our way of life.
Margaret Stoll, Rochford, Essex

The security of our country must be paramount to all law abiding citizens, consequently it must be right that extradition laws should be used against those foreign nationals who pose such an obvious risk.
Norman Pryce, Shrewsbury, England

This is not a question of whether these people continue to express their political and religious opinions or not - it's a question of where they are allowed to do it. Why are some people interpreting ejection from the UK as a sign of weakness in a democracy? I think it's a sign of strength.
Clive, UK

For the first time in a long while I believe and support the government completely in the new rules that they are implementing. I do not understand how any logical person would not. These types of people do not deserve any sort of protection against persecution in their own country as they are more than willing to persecute British citizens here. Anyone who disagrees with this would, I guarantee, feel totally different if they or one of their family were a victim of one of tragic terrorist attacks. No other country would put up with foreign nationals preaching hate against their own citizens, why should we?
Zoe, Cambridge, England

In the guise of human rights, Britain has been permitting a free hand to a large number of personnel who have been the mainstay of terrorism in other nations resulting in innumerable deaths of ordinary citizens of those nations. This policy has finally caught up with Britain itself resulting in the unfortunate death of 52 persons in London. Thank God, at last the British Government has woken up to the human rights of the rest of citizens who are law abiding.
SN Balakrishnan, Vashi, Navi Mumbai, India

What's to stop the government removing the human rights of other people like you and I
Gregor, London
People seem to forget that if you remove the human rights of some people - such as the freedom of speech - what's to stop the government removing the human rights of other people like you and I. They already tried it with the anti-war protester outside parliament, now it's clerics who say unpleasant things, next it will be anyone who dares to criticise the government in any way and the 'British way of life' will be changed more than a small group of terrorists could ever have changed it.
Gregor, London

It is the duty of all citizens to support extradition to protect the good law-abiding citizen. This is only one sanction and probably the ultimate we can use. It may help protect the freedoms we have, and to send a message to would be abusers of those rights. It may not stop terrorism but if people who promote hatred, racism and bigotry can come to the UK, abuse the rights they have been given, then they have to loose the right, because they cannot use it responsibly. I support the government but more importantly let's support the people of Britain who support this, no matter what their colour, or race, or religion, and get behind the government and work together.
Scott Wallace, UK/Japan

The government and police have a duty to deport dangerous people. The policy should be applied aggressively and consistently. Let there be no doubt - if people abuse our hospitality then they have no place in our country. At last, the government is doing what people have been demanding for many years.
Richard, Australia

Do not allow yourselves to be complacent, chaos is always only a moment away. Act swiftly, act decisively, act fairly, act humanely and be strong. Let those who have no love for you and your nation know that your willingness to debate the ramifications of the government's actions is not to be mistaken for weakness.
Ian Marfleet, Port of Spain, Trinidad

Many have been angered for a long time that those responsible have been able to practice their evil without punishment
Jeff Stables, Preston, Lancs
The deportations of those who preach and endorse terrorists attacks on our country, and others, is justified. Many have been angered for a long time that those responsible have been able to practice their evil without punishment - freedom of speech is one thing, to preach evil and gloat over the poor victims is another, those responsible deserve no pity, and certainly no right to citizenship in our country.
Jeff Stables, Preston, Lancs

Are we scared of few comments made by 'hate clerics' - And is this the start of a police state - what happen to democracy? Where does this leave BNP and other 'Non Muslim - Far right organisation?'
J, London

It's time for us to pull together as a country and start protecting the very country and way of life that WW1 and WW2 heroes fought so hard to protect. We are killing our country from the inside out. Human rights should have no part in this process - just ask the families of those killed by the London bombings.
Stuart, London

It is about time the government followed through with this type of extradition instead of just talking about it and not wanting to be the bad guy. I also feel that the human rights issues are swaying far too far for those who abuse it
Linda Flint, Paisley, Scotland

Exporting propaganda is pointless - the same ideas are available on the net anyway. We should allow this rubbish to be aired and then take it apart with common sense and ridicule.
Neil, Chelmsford, UK

If these individuals have broken any laws then they should be prosecuted in British courts
Ken, Canada
If these individuals have broken any laws then they should be prosecuted in British courts. The government has tried imprisoning suspects indefinitely without charges or legal procedures, but that was eventually thrown out by the Law Lords. Absolutely. Every country has the fundamental right to protect its citizens and itself. If this is what it takes to do it, so be it.
Ken, Canada

For the first time in 60 years the country is facing a very real threat to its way of life. Whilst I accept different people have differing cultural and spiritual beliefs, I also believe that "when in Rome". The independence and liberty of our country and way of life should be preserved - and if the use of older laws such as treason are needed, then so be it.
Marty Hopkirk, Blackpool, Lancashire

These laws should have been enforced from the beginning. I live in France now because I feel the UK has been exploited enough by extremists.
Andrea, France

Extradition only sends the problem elsewhere.
Mark Humphreys, Staffordshire, UK

I am foreigner and have been living in UK for three years now, and I have been enormously impressed by British hospitality and I do not want to see it abused.
Luca, London

They are entitled to their views regardless of what the majority opinion thinks
Paul, Oxford. UK
You cannot detain and deport foreign nationals because of what they say. They are entitled to their views regardless of what the majority opinion thinks.
Paul, Oxford. UK

To Paul, I would say that foreign nationals who disagree with the way our country is run should go home. To Charlie I would say "why not move the problem?" I would suggest that there's less freedom of speech in some of their native countries. To Emily I would say that we risk more by "keeping an eye on them" rather than deporting them
Mike Cook, Wetherby, UK

Extradition without prosecution, deportation and exile serve no purpose other than to move the problem.
Charlie Mason, Flemington USA

Deporting these people will achieve little. Yes, the UK taxpayer will have to waste millions on the legal costs and either prison or surveillance costs, if they remain in this country. At least we can keep an eye on them if they remain in the UK.
Emily, London

We need to stop being so frightened of what others think of us and stand up in support of our culture and way of life. We should be clear that we do not behave in an inhuman way but we should no longer tolerate those who do not wish to adopt this country wholeheartedly.
Sue Black, Birmingham, England

UK human rights laws should be reviewed in order to enhance protection for the public
Kaushik, New Delhi
UK humans right laws should be reviewed in order to enhance protection for the public. The terror suspects should be trailed and punished by the courts within UK. If deported, they may operate their network from overseas.
Kaushik, New Delhi

Yes, I agree with Charles Clarke's statement. We are all so concerned about the rights of the clerics who preach their hate-filled views - what about the human rights of the victims who are killed or maimed by bombs?
Lisa, London

To my knowledge Jordan is not an unreasonable state. If the detainees have broken the law in Jordan they should be deported immediately to face punishment there. How can we expect countries like Egypt to extradite people to Britain if we provide safe haven for people they wish to extradite?
Ian, Bradford, UK

Extradition orders should definitely be used. These people have come to our country and have acted or plotted against our society. Why shouldn't we send them back to whence they came?
Craig Ruff, Manchester, England

As one of the measures open to us, yes, I firmly believe that those who are proven to be persistent offenders in this respect should be deported to their country of origin. As for those who are born here then they should be prosecuted to the limit of the law and I even would suggest that a travel ban is placed on their immediate family.
Robert Bahrani, London, UK

Extradition laws should have been used years ago
Mathew Lovatt, Stoke-on-Trent
Extradition laws should have been used years ago. It's the government's own fault it's in this mess. Signing up to the Human Rights bill has been this government's biggest mistake.
Mathew Lovatt, Stoke-on-Trent

This initiative is one of the only good things this government has done and I back them all the way.
Lou, Lowestoft

Aren't the laws there for a reason? If the suspects do pose any kind of threat to the security of this island then the extradition laws should be used with full force before these threats can be realised.
Neil, Essex, UK



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