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Tuesday, 24 September, 2002, 16:05 GMT 17:05 UK
Countryside Alliance march: Did it achieve anything?
A massive 400,000 strong crowd has attended Sunday's Liberty and Livelihood rally in London.

The march is the finale of the Countryside Alliance's "summer of discontent" intended to demonstrate growing anger in rural communities to the government.

More than 2,000 coaches were organised to bring demonstrators in from all over Britain.

Cornish fish farmer Sally Bentall postponed her honeymoon and flew to London directly after her wedding service along with half her guests to attend the march.

"It's just one rule after another closing down the countryside, with no support for those who live and work here" she says.

But there are concerns that more militant campaigners may cause unlawful disruption at the protest.

Did you go along to the demonstration? What will it achieve? Can the city and the countryside be united?

This Talking Point is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below.

A 3billion of subsidies and they still can't make a living? All the countryside seem to want is for urban taxpayers to pour money in their pockets and leave them alone to their traditional pursuits - cruelty to animals, factory farming and of course keeping walkers from setting foot on their precious acres.
Eileen, UK

Unfortunately, the current subsidy system is part of the problem. 1) Continental farmers receive greater subsidies than British farmers, making it harder for British farmers to compete. 2) Subsidies are paid based on the area of land used, rather than the amount of produce. The only farmers who really benefit from this system are those with exceptionally large farms. 3) The NFU is largely run by these same people, many of whom also get along well with the supermarket barons. This means that the NFU leaders will not press for reforms in supermarket pricing, as this will upset their friends, nor will they push for reform of the CAP, as they are doing very well out of the current system, thank you very much.
Oliver Barker, York, UK

This surely accounts for growing public cynicism about politics

Chris Arnold, England
On balance, many instances of vituperation in which past injustices somehow justify current ones. I was against the Beeching Plan. I was appalled at the decimation of the mining, ship-building and steel industries. I am now no happier about what is happening to agriculture and the rural economy. The truth is that successive political wills from divergent political colours have delivered these events over 50 years. This surely accounts for growing public cynicism about politics, and the ascendancy of "demo" over ballot box in a climate which is increasingly undermining democracy.
Chris Arnold, England

What I find extremely insulting, as a committed trade unionist, is the fact that the organisers are comparing the campaign and march to that of the Tolpuddle Martyrs. How many of the Countryside Alliance would be prepared to risk deportation to Australia by sea in horrific conditions for the sake of their cause?
Kim, UK

Over a quarter of a milllion protesting over the right to rip defenceless animals to pieces -don't kid me on that's not what this is about. I'm proud to say our very own Scottish parliament has quite rightly banned this barbarism. Shame on you all - there are more important issues to protest about if you'd care to look beyond your own backdoor. And to those who say townies don't know what they're talking about - I say cruelty is the same wherever you live. And by the way I'm no supporter of New Labour either!
Kathy, Glasgow, Scotland

The marchers have done immense damage by associating themselves with the hunting lobby

Steve, England
Many of us who live and work in the countryside are left wondering who the marchers were aiming their protest at? The real problems out here are principally caused in two ways, by the economic muscle of the supermarkets, and by the refusal of the farming community to adapt itself to changes. The marchers have done immense damage by associating themselves with the hunting lobby, which has little sympathy out here and rather less in London.
Steve, England

People who complain that there are more important things to worry about don't seem to understand that there wouldn't be a controversy if the Government wasn't trying to ban hunting in the first place. So if you think people should be concentrating on the Middle East or whatever, tell that to Parliament, not the Countryside Alliance who are only reacting to a potentially monstrous invasion of liberty that should never have been proposed.
Theodore Harvey, Miami Beach, USA

The countryside march is portrayed by the BBC as mainly being about supporting foxhunting. This is only a very small part of the protest, which is about the way the life and livelihood of those who live in the country is being affected by government indifference and urban bias. The BBC's distortion of the true overall picture is disgraceful.
David, East Anglia, UK

If you used your bus service, you would still have it. If you used your local shop, you would still have one. If you used your local pub, it would still be there. Why should townies pay to subsidise your local?
Uncaring, UK

Whether in the country or the town, we have a living to make and a life to lead

Brian, UK
I've heard all the arguments about the countryside not supporting the miners, pretending that it's a justification for us letting our fellow working men down - don't people realise that this is just more 'divide and rule'? Whether in the country or the town, we have a living to make and a life to lead. My grandfather was a miner in the General Strike, and he was a keen fisherman and game hunter - the hijacking of working class causes by the middle class, vegetarian morons is a very recent phenomenon.
Brian, UK

I grew up in the country but regard fox hunting as both juvenile and unnecessarily cruel. If people want to hunt, let them go drag hunting. If foxes are a real nuisance, cull them humanely.
Phil, England

Urban dwellers need to understand that there is a difference between the needs of those living and working in the countryside compared with the needs of those expecting a theme park for the occasional ramble. Hunting is also not the preserve of the 'toffs'. However, it is difficult to argue about what constitutes a 'cruel sport' with individuals whose only view of a chicken is one wrapped in polythene on the supermarket shelf.
Helen Evans, UK

More nannying from a patronising Labour government. I support and love the countryside and it is utterly ridiculous for citizens of urban areas to complain about and support the banning of country pursuits - it has nothing to do with them and is something they know nothing about.
Steve, UK

I have only one thing to say to these countryfolk - get orrrrrrf my land!
Richard Templeton, London, UK

This march is not about liberty and livelihood but bloodsports and subsidies. The real issues faced by the agricultural working class - low paid seasonal work, dangerous conditions of employment and poor residential security of tenure - won't get a single mention today.
John, Sussex, UK

I don't hunt but I marched in support of the rights of those who do. Any majority should not be able to dictate to a minority on an issue relating to their liberty.
Neil, UK

Foxes must be controlled. When anti-hunt people or 'townies' tell us what a cruel sport it is, I wonder how many of them have ever seen chickens with their heads ripped off or lambs attacked. I do not hunt, but I do believe that there is no safe alternative to curtail the foxes destroying so much of our livestock.
Claire, UK

The Countryside Alliance state that fox hunting in not the main issue of the march, rather affordable housing and public transport. These are two of London's main issues too, so welcome to the club!
Ross Methven, UK

Coming from the countryside myself, what angers me is the way in which the whole debate has been hijacked by the pro-hunt lobby. I am sick of the pro-hunters saying that people in the countryside support hunting with dogs. In my experience, nothing could be further from the truth. If it wasn't for the pro-hunters, I would be marching with the demonstrators too!
Jonathan, UK

The Countryside Alliance say that hunting isn't the main reason for their campaign, yet the majority of banners were 'pro-hunting'. This does suggest that pro-hunting groups have hijacked the campaign
Alan Rowell, UK

We should be looking at the real issues - how to make the free market work in our favour (by forming a strong union against the supermarkets?), "Honest Food" (a great but under-exposed campaign) and planning (how can we get affordable housing without mass-concreting). A march based on these issues would be worth supporting.
Liam Smith, UK

No matter how many people vote to keep fox hunting legal, cruelty is cruelty. If I were to make shooting cats, or hanging dogs, a local tradition in my area, would the government make it legal, or ignore it? Or would I be prosecuted for animal cruelty ?
Carl Fowkes, UK

Ian Duncan Smith said "passing an anti hunt bill will make many people criminals" What utter rubbish. Criminals are folk who break laws. All they have to do is to obey the law then they won't be criminals
Dr.K.J.King, U.K.

Fox hunting is the only way that you can control the Fox by any form of natural selection. I do not hunt, but logic and a knowledge of country ways dictates this assumption. The real world situation is that the bulk of town people in the UK vote against country sports until nature invades their lives (rats, or foxes killing all their chickens when they move to a country village)then they want other people to sort it out!
Stuart, England

Things like these are more important to country people than hunting

Barbara Simpson, Scotland
We live near a village in the Scottish Borders. Since we moved here seven years ago, we have lost our police station, pub/hotel and a twice-weekly bus service to Edinburgh. Things like these are more important to country people than hunting.
Barbara Simpson, Scotland

The march is not just about hunting, it is about the threat to the rural way of life in our country. Please, we don't want to live in a concrete jungle, do we? Twenty people are coming to London from my family
Margaret, English

I've been speaking to people who are going to the march on Sunday. Interestingly, none of those I've spoken to (about 10 so far) would have gone if they weren't being coerced into it by their employers (wealthy landowners - who also hunt by the way).
Iain Alexander, UK

I am marching for freedom

Graham Shelton, UK
I am marching as a peaceful member of the general public because I've tried voting and it doesn't seem to work. We have a government of control freaks who wish to dictate how every aspect of our lives is conducted, both in town and country. I don't want that. I support the hunter's right to hunt without interference. I support the farmer's right to farm in a free market. I support the towndweller's right to live in peace free from nanny state regulation. I am marching for freedom.
Graham Shelton, UK

I am a "townie" and have never hunted in my life! Nevertheless I will be marching tomorrow with several of my friends as I believe that this Government is attacking many of the basic freedoms which have been held dear in this country for hundreds of years.
Sally Roberts, Hammersmith, London, UK

The ignorance and old-fashioned class prejudice displayed by some of your correspondents are truly staggering. Please help to redress the balance by pointing out that most of the marchers are like me - honest, ordinary people who feel disenfranchised by a government that has an unassailable majority and seems hell-bent on destroying country life regardless of all argument.
Graham Shelton, England

I grew up on a farm myself and experienced the poverty

Julie, Newcastle, England
This march should never have happened in the first place. Neither should the news agencies have given so much coverage to middle-class bumpkins supporting fox hunting. I tackled a few of them in Durham on Thursday - they said hounds would be shot if fox hunting was banned. I grew up on a farm myself and experienced the poverty. Unless landowners are willing to pay labourers a decent wage, ban intensive farming and fox hunting I will NEVER support the Countryside Alliance!
Julie, Newcastle, England

It's not that everyone is in love with New Labour, far from it. But there is a much greater dislike by the silent majority for the old concentration of privilege and power in the hands of a small but wealthy minority. The marchers, whether they like it or not, appear to want to hold on to the divisions and prejudices of an almost bygone era. Most people in London are not with them.
Dominic Carman, England

The fact that people are willing to go on a march, because they think they have the right to kill foxes says it all. Surely there are more pressing issues happening in the world at the moment like Iraq and the Middle East. In any case the only march I would support would be the Anti-Hunting League.
Vince, London, UK

I don't think these same people are doing themselves any favours

Sean, UK
I have a lot of sympathy for the very real problems people living in rural areas are experiencing. However I don't think these same people are doing themselves any favours by associating themselves with the blood sports crowd who are duping them into swelling the numbers of their protest march and in the process alienating a lot of townies with views similar to my own.
Sean, UK

The foxes will be wondering why it's so quiet this weekend.
Pete, UK

Why should the ordinary, regular person care? After we've witnessed the recent decimation of communities built on coalmining, shipbuilding and steelworking, why should we care about the whinging of a wealthy and privileged few? Surely, in the interests of equality, the main issue facing rural communities is land reform....?
MacAodha1, London

These properties are basically purchased with their pocket money

Martin, Welsh borders
Good luck to all those on the march this weekend. I live in a small town on the Welsh borders and our community is being destroyed by the arrogant and overriding attitude of the present Government. The housing in the town I live in is probably 30% owned by rich yuppies from London and the like who have their properties here as second/holiday homes. These properties are basically purchased with their pocket money - but at a level which is way beyond the local first time buyers. On the whole they are wonderful people - but unfortunately they offer little to our community. They arrive at the weekend with their Waitrose bags full of goodies, but buy nothing from our local shops.
Martin, Welsh borders

I am only interested to see how many people will turn up to the Don't attack Iraq demonstration later this month, compared to the Livelihood march. It will give everyone an idea about how much people really care about each other and how selfish and cruel some people really are here in the UK.
Andreas, UK

At last! The silent majority is on the march. This is not just about vermin (fox) hunting. It's about opposing the loud liberal minority from destroying our way of life! For your information I am a working-class townie.

What is the march about? If it is to stop the ban on foxhunting then I support it. If it's to stop the government halting farm subsidies then I am against it. If it is to protest against a stupid planning laws then I am for it .The result is that I will not go, simply because its aims are just too vague.
Andrew Torrance, Wales, UK

The march is laughable

Steve, UK
I just do not know how people like Cornish fish farmer Sally Bentall can say things like there's "no support for those who live and work" in the countryside. Are all the EU subsidies that farmers get a myth then? Face facts: rural regions of the UK have generally always voted Tory and any problems they've got now are quite simply the consequences of that folly. The march is laughable.
Steve, UK

It absolutely infuriates me that the pro-hunting lobby are always stating that they have huge support from the general public; would this be the same general public that they have spent years deriding as the "great unwashed"? If the fox hunters would just freely admit that they get a perverse thrill out of animal cruelty rather than harp on about "protecting the countryside/livelihoods" I would have a lot more respect for them (but only respect for their honesty).
Gary, UK

The countryside looks great!

Christian Walker, Derbyshire
The only aesthetic and environmental threat to the countryside is cheap mass production brought about by urban demand. Not every family can afford to pay more for meat and milk but that is to do with minimum wage and other issues - hunting is just a scapegoat again! Walk up a hill in Derbyshire and look around: the countryside looks great! Forget about hunting; the media and government love to whip up hatred on the issue to mask the real issues like housing.
Christian Walker, Derbyshire

I've lived much of my life in the country but when I've tried to get support or carry out collections on behalf of environmental and wildlife campaigns the response has usually been resoundingly apathetic. If only those people rallying around the CA were as passionate about trying to conserve rather than kill wildlife. The CA stands for everything that is rank about middle England.

The leader of the York and Ainstey hunt said this morning on Radio York that the march was never about rural issues but about hunting. They have chartered a train to take supporters to the march. Of course the people who visit the countryside for recreation want the liberty to walk on open moorland, the Countryside Alliance are against this: double standards.
Keith Sutcliffe, England

If the march had no association with hunting I would join them

Wayne McDonough, UK
I have experience of living in both a city and the countryside where my roots remain. If the march had no association with hunting I would join them, I will not however show any support for this barbarous so-called sport. For people marching with the belief that they are representing a bigger problem of rural decline, don't be fooled, you are merely being used to swell numbers by a bunch of people who are by their very nature selfish "the fox hunting clan".
Wayne McDonough, UK

Why is it when miners protested to save their livelihood they were branded communists, revolutionaries and living in the past, yet when the same group of people who condemned them protest to save a hobby it is an issue of fundamental human rights? If only some of these same people had protected the rights of the people of towns like Treorchy, Merthyr, Bedlington and Govan.
Gwyn, Australia

Hunting has never been the key issue in the countryside

Pete, Malmesbury, UK
It seems that the CA conveniently forget that it was 20 years of Maggie and her cronies who tore the heart out of the countryside. Tens of thousands lost their livelihoods as big business poured money into buying up farms and replacing people with ever bigger machinery, turning the countryside into another "investment" opportunity.

The housing boom, that allowed the migration of commuters to rural areas, drove up house prices as tied houses and affordable property was sold off, driving away the key people necessary to support villages throughout the UK. And gradually the infrastructure was decimated. Hunting has never been the key issue in the countryside and while the CA continues to focus on that small point for their own petty aims, we will never be able to address the important issues of rebuilding the rural infrastructure and giving a rural way of life back to those thousands who REALLY deserve it.
Pete, Malmesbury, UK

Well done, a peacefull march!. May'be if you lot had thought before putting you're cross for the Tories you might not be in this situation, "market forces" etc, blah blah blah. (See Pete from malmesbury.) A wry smile on "townies chops".
Barry, uk

I support my local post office, public house and church but I will not support this march

Peter, UK
I own a small home in a village outside Winchester. I support my local post office, public house and church but I will not support this march. I believe the CA are a bunch of right wing activists, either old money or commuters, who really do not support the countryside at all. This march is being hijacked by the pro-hunting lobby: and hunting with dogs must be banned, for it is barbaric. I am a follower of St Francis of Assisi, and I know where he would have stood on this controversial issue.
Peter, UK

Fox hunting is an outdated sadistic sport. It is about time that people in the countryside moved on. Surely they are intelligent enough people to find another way of entertainment - could it be they were always used to getting their own way under the previous government? It's about time they entered the 21st century.
Donna, UK

When the Countryside Alliance starts to describe plausible remedies for its problems and decides how it might escape its culture of subsidy and dependency, then others will take note.
Peter Cuming, London, England

I've lived in the countryside all my life and am disappointed that the pro-hunters are manipulating this rally. Many - perhaps the majority of country dwellers don't support hunting.
Maurice, England

This government is too busy sucking up to Bush to be bothered by a dying British countryside

Andrew W, Rural South East England
I support the march 100% although sadly I fear it will do little to change the misinformed opinions of city and town dwellers, or this current appalling government who is too busy sucking up to the Bush administration in the vain hope of power and oil to be bothered by a dying British countryside. Blair, Bush will soon forget who you are, we the voters however WILL NOT!
Andrew W, Rural South East England

Speaking as a townie who can't afford a house largely because of a lack of development land, and having marvelled at how from the air, even south east England appears to be entirely covered in fields, I do sometimes wonder if lobby groups aren't being a little over-zealous in their protection of England's admittedly beautiful countryside. I couldn't care less whether people hunt or not. I just want somewhere to live.
Graham, UK

Local shops and petrol stations were put out of business under the Tories

F Marsden, England
The demise of the rural areas started years before New Labour. The Tories and Dr Beeching decimated the transport links in the late 50s, prior to privatisation and de-regulation. The local shops and petrol stations were put out of business by the out of town hypermarkets under the Tories. The farmers lost most of their income due to market forces, prices brought down by supermarkets. I feel the Countryside Alliance should divert its march, straight to Tory Central Office.
F Marsden, England

Don't worry about the countryside. Labour has a cunning plan to solve every problem there - concrete it over with houses and airports!
James, England

Maybe the tube drivers will go on strike in support of the country folk. Why not? They'll strike for everything else.
Chris, London, UK

Townies have no understanding of rural life at all!

Steve, UK
I am sick and tired of the ignorant townies on this page. If you read the local news of a rural area, stories of people who have just moved from a large city complaining about farm animals making noise, roads too narrow, etc, are a regular occurrence. This shows that a significant proportion of townies have no understanding of rural life at all!
Steve, UK

I am astounded at the amount of times pro-country people call "townies" ignorant. The problems of lack of local community, rising house prices, yuppies moving in and unemployment are minor compared to the problems suffered in much of the north, Wales and Scotland over the last 20 years. Britain was run for hundreds of years in the interests of wealthy countryside gentlemen and now the worm has turned some people really don't like it!
Richard, Australia

Much of rural England has already been taken over by wealthy commuters, who play at being village folk, whilst our own young cannot afford to live where they were born and brought up. The CA has done absolutely nothing to address the real problems, and their march will not alter that fact.
Pat Vincent, UK

The pro-hunting lobby always assume that anyone in support of a ban on hunting must be a townie. I have lived in the countryside all my life and do not enjoy seeing foxes being torn apart and farmland destroyed. We experience far more problems from our neighbours' (who are pro-hunting) dogs fouling our lawn than from these beautiful wild creatures. Foxes belong in the countryside.
Emma, England

Where were the Countryside Alliance then?

Matt, UK
I agree with 95% of what the Countryside Alliance is about. However I cannot support the march as it will inevitably be hijacked by the hunting debate which takes up such a small part of the countryside's problems. A village in Lincolnshire I used to live in had a post office, two shops, a garage and three pubs. Everyone was so worked up about the hunting debate that they ignored that these essential services were going to be closed down. Now the village has just two pubs and is full of houses that the locals can't afford. Where were the Countryside Alliance then? Nowhere!
Matt, UK

I must say that I have to agree with Matt, UK. The hunting debate has wasted a lot of time and money and people have lost the plot concerning the abuse of our countryside. I come from a small village in Cornwall and it is true, houses are being built and communities destroyed so the wealthy, middle class townies can escape the filth and squalor that they have created in the cities. The houses are vastly overpriced which means locals cannot afford them. No-one seems to be paying too much attention to that.
Phil T, Cornishman in Oman

The UK is full of poverty, crime, hospitals in chaos, we're ready to go to war for another country in Iraq and what are we hearing about? Toffs in red jackets moaning about not being able to fox hunt.
Mark Shanks, Scotland

These comments are typical of the ignorance of the towns and cities. It is not just the middle classes of the countryside who are affected but everyone. With local post offices, shops and banks being closed down the communities are being destroyed. It is typical of the left-wing trendies of Islington to hide behind the debate of fox-hunting instead of concentrating on the real issue of the declining economies of our farms and villages.
Simon, England

A nice visit to the London area may sharpen everybody's sense of urgency in wanting to protect our countryside before it, too, is paved over, polluted and gridlocked.
Hugh, Yorkshire, England

Forcing a section of our community to change its culture is racism

Dave, UK
I'm not going to the march but good luck to those that do. This is not about banning fox hunting but freedom for communities not associated with city life to continue their culture as they always have without interference from people who don't understand the ways of the rural community. Forcing a section of our community to change its culture forever because the majority don't like what they do is racism. Imagine this philosophy applied to all the religions and cultures within the UK and you will end up with a repressed people.
Dave, UK

The march will lead to more confusion

Wendy, London, UK
The Countryside Alliance does not have a clear message and the march will lead to more confusion. I know a fair few people who are going and the consensus is that there isn't one. Those who don't fox hunt say the march is not about fox hunting but about rural rights (transport, shops etc) whilst those who do fox hunt say of course it's all about fox hunting. Personally, I'm not going because, whilst I believe in rural rights, I think the march is about fox hunting and I won't support that.
Wendy, London, UK

I have lived all my life in the countryside and have absolutely nothing in common with the people attending this rally. There are millions of us in the countryside who are anti-bloodsports and against factory farming practices. Hopefully people will see most of the attendees for what they are - a bunch of outdated hypocrites clinging to a way of life that has no more to do with the real needs of the countryside than the man in the moon!
John, England

I sympathise but will not be attending. A lot of people will turn up and will mill about for a bit and then a lot of people will go home again. Nothing will change. If rural workers were to strike, including B&Bs and rangers, then they may get a more considerate ear. Townies would soon take note.
RC Robjohn, UK

Labour propaganda has started smearing the marchers

Mike, Great Britain
I live out here too and feel our taxes are completely wasted because they're diverted to cities while our living costs pile up in the countryside. Unfortunately the march will achieve nothing because Blair will do as he pleases. The Labour propaganda machine has started by smearing the marchers - the papers said there were many "false alarms" causing the fire brigade to waste its resources. I have no doubt that this report was intended to make the demonstrators look irresponsible. By next week Blair will be claiming that these people are rich and selfish right wing extremists. So much for a free country when your own leaders hate you.
Mike, Great Britain

If they saved the money they spent organising this pointless march and ploughed it into the rural community we'd all be better off.
Chris, England

I fully support the countryside march on Sunday. I hope it will remain peaceful and highlight the neglect of the countryside by this metropolitan government. As long as extreme left wing members of the Labour party stop treating the ruination of the countryside as revenge for what happened to the miners, then no solution will be found.
Philip Cleverly, UK

There's still a huge gulf of understanding

Nick, UK
It's clear there's still a huge gulf of understanding between people who live and work in the countryside and those who just want it for hunting, walking or visiting. I don't think a demonstration will change these perceptions but as a person who lives in the country and works in the city, I fully support the demonstrators because the government doesn't care. They seem to have the perception that all people involved don't vote for them anyway. In my case this was not the situation but it is now.
Nick, UK

I will be marching, as I did last time - but honestly I don't see what effect it will have. A much greater effect can be achieved by a few influential politicians or TV pundits in my view.
Nikolai, Edinburgh, UK

I fully support the Countryside Alliance march. It means the foxes, pheasant, fish and other wild creatures get a day off from being pursued by ginned up chinless oafs.
Chris, UK

If the Liberty and Livelihood march does anything to combat the bias and bigotry displayed on this Talking Point by people such as Chris, UK and Jon, England with their class warfare based arguments, then it will have done some good.
Dave Edwards, Reading, UK

This proves the ignorance of urbanites

Peta Seel, France
Sadly I cannot go but thousands of French people will be joining the march. One only has to look at the e-mails you have received to know this is not a question of saving foxes, but an exercise in restricting the liberties of those who are perceived by urban oafs to be 'upper class twits'. This proves how deep the ignorance of the urbanites is when it comes to countryside matters. It also proves that this government is hell-bent on exploiting this ignorance and igniting some sort of playground class war. Good luck to the marchers - I will be there in spirit.
Peta Seel, France

Anyone who cares about our countryside should back the march - it's about keeping the countryside alive, not just promoting the huntin' and shootin' fraternities! We have some of the most beautiful countryside in the world, and it's cared for by the farmers and the people who live in the little villages and hamlets - the same people who are being completely trashed financially by our "Islington luvvey" politicians!
Sue Hudson, London (from Hampshire) UK

I'm right behind them. This government is doing all it can to destroy our history, heritage and long-established ways. It's about time they realised they should be governing for everyone, not just a favoured clique of left-leaning Guardian readers.
Andrew H, England

There will be no violence and no anarchy

I will be there with my little son. There will be no violence and no anarchy. We are civilised, law-abiding people denied a voice by the government and left wing media. After all we are not animal rights terrorists.

I have absolutely no interest of the plight of middle Englanders who are complaining that the countryside is being 'closed down'. I wonder if they supported the millions miners, steelworkers, dockers, textile and factory workers in the 1980s when communities were systematically ruined by middle Englanders voting Conservative?!
Jon, England

I wonder if Jon, England is aware that a lot of the people going on the Countryside Alliance march are working class? If such stereotypes were made about any other group it would be classed as prejudice. Rural people are not all right-wing, wealthy and bigoted. Judging by some of the comments they appear far more open-minded than many urban people.
Mark, England

I don't see how marching to London will help the countryside - it'll surely just make the Londoners hate farmers even more?
Cerise Landowner, UK

Traffic jams!!!
Becky Richards, England

Free flowing traffic in the north of England, because all the tractors will be in London.
Tony Bastin, Leeds, England

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