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Tuesday, 2 April, 2002, 08:33 GMT 09:33 UK
Was the Commonwealth right to suspend Zimbabwe?
Zimbabwe has been suspended from the Commonwealth for a year with immediate effect.
The decision was taken by the Commonwealth "troika" which was mandated to review the presidential elections in Zimbabwe.
Leaders of Australia, Nigeria and South Africa agreed with Commonwealth observers that the campaign had been marred by violence and intimidation.
The poll was also criticized by the USA, the European Union and the UK.
Was the Commonwealth right to suspend Zimbabwe? What difference will this decision make?
This debate is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below.
I believe that all the people in the country will suffer. The poor will suffer the most.
The Commonwealth is wasting its time. Mugabe has no intent of giving up power. By hook or by crook, he will stay in power.
Like most other issues around the world, suspending Zimbabwe does not solve the root cause of the matter - which is how can the real owners of the land in Zimbabwe be given back their land
The Commonwealth is getting a little ahead of itself if it thinks suspension will achieve much - it's a toothless organisation with no particular relevance, and certainly with very little resolve. Don McKinnon and his crowd could've and should've acted far more decisively in highlighting to the world the desperate state of Zimbabwe before 2000's general election. It may have made a difference back then.
Richard Wisecarver, Wasilla, Alaska
The suspension of Zimbabwe from the Commonwealth for Mugabe's hostilities, intimidation and elimination of civilian lives for his political survival is genuine and applauded. Even to impose economic sanction wouldn't be a bad idea to get Mugabe to feel the pinch of his actions and draconian rule but it is only the ordinary citizens who will suffer the most.
That was the most sensible thing for the commonwealth to do. Though too late. It is surprising how some non Zimbabweans glorify Mugabe because of their rabid hatred for the west. Please fight your own wars with the colonialists and stop using Zimbabweans. The majority of the people who are being killed, maimed and displaced in Zimbabwe are blacks and not white farmers. The man does not like opposition and that is the reason for all our suffering. I wish you could have a page for Zimbabweans only and I tell you, you will be surprised what people will write.
Zimbabwe's suspension from the Commonwealth is too little too late. The people of Zimbabwe have suffered enough and for a long time under this despotic ruler. Suspension at this stage will hardly even scratch the surface in changing that. As ordinary Zimbabweans, we feel betrayed in a way, by the world and anyone who is in a position to help us out of this. We want to be free. The electoral process seemed to have failed us yet again because it can be rigged. We have never known good governance. Could somebody out there please help!
Deckey Boy, Liberia
I think Zimbabwe should not have been suspended from the Commonwealth, and the western world is interested in this matter only because of the white farmers in the country. There have been many African elections like this one, but no western politician ever said anything about it. And also, let's look at George Bush's own election, as there are lots of questions to be asked about it.
Yanni Mbandi, USA - Cameroon
The Commonwealth was wrong to suspend Zimbabwe because it means nothing at this stage. The main difference now will be that the Commonwealth as such lost the right to express any opinion or influence the situation in Zimbabwe. Mugabe cannot care less if he going to receive the offer of rejoining the club in a year or not. This on the other hand, will give him even more space to continue his involvement in DRC and sell out the country to Libyan and other governments interested in territorial or mineral riches. The only right solution in this situation is that Mbeki and other SADC leaders wake up and realise that Mugabe means trouble. What do you do with a brother who hurts the family? You forgive him but you don't let him hurt the family any more.
The Commonwealth has carried out it's obligation to improve the human rights and democratic rights of the people of Zimbabwe. The rights of all Zimbabweans are at stake here, not just a tribe, a race, a political party! Land issues are for the people of Zimbabwe to decide democratically on, not to satisfy any other country.
Vusumzi Mpongo, South Africa
Mugabe and his cronies still have food on their tables while most of our relatives back home are starving. It is about time some military or forceful means were used to rid the country of this tyrant, before he fools another strong opposition into forming a government of national unity!
Yes sanctions were rightly imposed on Zimbabwe, but its too little, too late. They should have acted long ago, without giving the so-called hierarchy notice that it was going to happen.
Those of you who have not seen what has come of Zimbabwe in the last few years should not even have the nerve to air your arrogant remarks, without knowing the extent to which people are suffering, and the difficulties the average families have to survive. Economic, and regional ruin is what lies ahead if something is not done and done quick. ZANU PF made a mockery out of democracy. I'd rather the west interfere.
MDY, An African in UK
I strongly feel that the Commonwealth should not have suspended Zimbabwe. This only will help worsen the already ailing and staggering economic situation in the country. Rather it should have taken particular measures against specific individuals which it claims are violating human rights. My question is: Who is a more serious human rights abuser, one who sponsors all these political clashes, wars and genocides or one who strives to get back what has been unlawfully taken away from him, that is the land itself in this case?
Let Zimbabweans solve their domestic disputes alone.
Excellent move, although I am positive it will not affect Mugabe! He wants the land for his 'people' but what have they done with the land? They are incapable of thinking for themselves to farm grain and provide for their people. Independence was won in 1980 and yet the black man has not risen up and shown the world what he can do with the country.
Anock Banda, Proud African
I do not care what sanctions the West imposes on us, as long as we can get back our land, have somewhere to live on and grow our own food. Soon the West will be a laughing stock for Africa.
I really don't know what the International community gains from sanctions against the so-called dictators. The suspension of Zimbabwe from the Commonwealth would not yield a better life for Zimbabweans, but it will bring about great suffering and bitterness among politicians. I don't support unnecessary interference of the West into African politics. However, the suspension of Zimbabwe from the Commonwealth should be a lesson to many African politicians, that if they think African politics should be left to Africans, they should learn to protect and respect the rights of all citizens in the respective countries.
All wrong by all means. Mugabe does not rule Zimbabwe from common what? Neither does he from Britain nor USA. The suspension is like a dog licking a bone. Address the land issue in a civilised way. Let's prove that our democratic philosophy holds globally. Work on the core issues and success is our destiny by all routes.
A waste of time! Mugabe doesn't care about the council as he knows very well that Zimbabwe is still a Commonwealth member. Council is just a tea and coffee club and Mugabe can always make his own.
Illusion created by media that suspension of Zimbabwe from the Council is a big deal is not helping opposition either. Now, they will be blamed for all the hardships.
I agree with many of the comments that have been made that this suspension, while a step in the right direction, will accomplish basically nothing. Mugabe is a dictator who promotes injustice and corruption, keeping his own skin intact by stirring up his peoples' hatred against the "evil white imperialists." If it weren't for the millions of innocents it would hurt, it might be interesting to give these demagogues what they want and simply end all Western involvement in their countries - no aid, no development help, no nothing. I wonder how long their regimes would last then.
John GS, Australia
When two elephants fight its the grass that suffers, bear this in mind.
Given the way Mugabe and ZANU-PF behaved in the two years of their election campaign (deaths, torture, beatings, 're-education' camps) and now the brutal youth militia acted, it would have been criminal for the Commonwealth to pretend that politics continues as normal in Zimbabwe - so yes, it was right to suspend Mugabe. But what else? How can the people of Zimbabwe be helped to overcome their political elite?
Better late than never.
Finally some action against a tyrant and his cronies who are a disgrace to their country, to Africa, to the world, and to the human race. One day, they will be held accountable for the blood they have caused to be spilled, the dreadful damage they have caused to the innocents of their own country.
If you come to Zimbabwe we black people are still living in the western suburbs where fumes from industries blow and all the sewage flows. In the rural areas we are living in rocky areas. It easy for you guys in the West to call for sanctions because it is your weapon. You have the financial might - you have the control. Everyone is talking about flaws. What was flawed?
You guys finance the wars in Africa. How can a small country like Rwanda finance a war for 4 years? How does UNITA survive financially?
I hope one day that when making your decisions you will not be racially minded. Yours is a global dictatorship. Let us deal with our leaders ourselves.
The very least that the Commonwealth should have done was to suspend Zimbabwe. This should have been done a long time ago, after the travesty of the previous general election. I've spent many years going back and forth to Zimbabwe, my wife is a Shona woman, and in the twelve years since I first went there, I've seen the country go from a potential economic power house to the economic disaster it has become today.
As the former colonial rulers, the UK has a special responsibility to Zimbabwe, and it's a responsibility we've been content to abrogate for far too long; the result of which is that we, and the rest of the western nations will be forced through simple humanitarian demands, to support the people, while their government goes on stealing from everyone it can, while it continues to laugh up it's sleeve at us as it goes about the daily task of oppressing the rights of its population and intimidating anyone who dares to stand in opposition.
Definitely, NOT. You should realise, this a third world country which is relatively poor in education and economy. Your harsh action will only affect the ordinary people and certainly not the leaders.
You should advise Mugabe to do it better in future and rectify the weaknesses. Warn them of these weakness and against doing it in the future. This action can be considered as a revenge as a result of Mugabe's policy towards white people. I do not agree with his policy but suspension is not the answer. Be objective please.
That was long overdue. Zimbabwe should have been suspended from the Commonwealth 20 years with Mugabe's treatment of the Matebele people. Thanks Commonwealth for acting but we still need more help. Never have the black and white Zimbabweans united so much to deal with a rogue leader who plays the race card to remain in power. The Zimbabwean issue is not about land, race or re-colonisation it is about a leader who has plundered his people and is afraid of leaving power for fear of being made to account for his record. The people have suffered and we are glad that the wimp-like Mbeki and Obasanjo are now acting against Mugabe.
Thank you Commonwealth but where are you SADC and OAU?
Only the misguided, blind and blinkered people do favour West interference in Zimbabwe. Why notice a stick in Mugabe's eye when not seeing the logs in Commonwealth and West's eyes? How do you define a dictator? If Mugabe is one, then the world is full of them, with the worst of dictators found in the West.
I hope what has happened to Zimbabwe is a signal to all Commonwealth countries whose leaders think they can govern their countries with no regard for human dignity. Through this action the Commonwealth has shown its determination to uphold democracy, the rule of law and human rights. Congratulations!
Tell us please what Zimbabwe will lose as a result of this decision?
Tope Agboola, Nigeria
The implications on the Southern African region are disastrous. While Mugabe swans around in luxury, his people are starving - they don't have the strength to react as those in the Western world would. 'Power' has gone to Mugabe's head and frankly if Africa wants to remain third world, it's heading the right way by backing this tyrant.
Samuel Banks, USA
The action taken by the Commonwealth will have very little impact. Hit Mugabe where it will hurt him most, freeze all of his personal bank accounts and assets across Europe and deposit these monies into a fund for the future re-investment of a new Zimbabwe.
I've been in Mozambique and Zimbabwe. Suspension is not enough. It's a joke. As noted by several, Mugabe could care less. It's time the attempt to portray Mr. Mugabe as someone who is righting the injustices black Africans experienced at the hands of European colonialist stop. Mugabe and his thugs are criminals. His only interest is himself. He is righting no wrongs. He is causing many. Everyone is so afraid of appearing to favour white folks that no one is willing to call a crooked black man crooked. I don't care what colour Mugabe is, he is a crook. Bad for Zimbabwe and bad for Africa. EU sanctions, ha. He is laughing all the way to the bank. Take steps to remove him otherwise its all a waste of time and a joke. I can only imagine what the world's out cry would be if a white majority government was killing black farmers and taking away black farmers farms and land!
Why all this fuss about Zimbabwe, all the extreme propaganda etc? I have to agree Mugabe must go but all the British are worried about is the 4000 white farmers who own 80% of Zimbabwe's fertile land! Hundreds have died in Africa, but they don't make it to the headlines, but one farmer.... it's a Newsflash!
Peter Andersson, Sweden
Mugabe is arrogant, ruthless and cunning. Yes they were dead right to suspend Zimbabwe from the Commonwealth if only the aim is to show Mugabe that he is now isolated. It would have been different had the South African observer team told the truth about the election and openly condemned all the irregularities. I wish they knew that by just supporting Mugabe because he is an African brother they signed the death warrants for thousands of Zimbabweans. Maybe they feel they would face the same when it is their turn to cheat in an election. Shame on them!
Shame to Mugabe, shame to the EU community, shame to the Commonweath. For the past 22 years Mugabe couldn't carry on the land reform because he was your puppet. Afflicting with you now, you speak about the rule of law and human rights. Let's speak about human right concerning Middle East and Australia. Let's speak about human right and democracy to the FMI. Let's speak about human right, the rule of law and democracy to your other AFRICAN puppets who are still dictators and you are still supporting them. Shame to all of you.
Connie Wessels, UK
Suspension from the commonwealth is of little consequence to Mugabe. That two African leaders were involved in this decision (albeit under duress) has more significance.
It was obvious from the outset that the future of Southern Africa, and the NEGARD initiative, depended upon the outcome of the situation in Zimbabwe.
The west has largely fallen for Mugabe's own propaganda, and emphasises the land question, and the black/white question.
Most of Mugabe's actions were in pursuit of his wish to retain control of ZANU-PF - many people within this party supported the idea of ousting Mugabe before the general elections two years ago. They were effectively silenced. Now, so too, have the majority of Zimbabweans, both rural and urban.
Mugabe must be removed by force - peacekeeping troops must be sent now - the alternative may be yet another protracted civil war.
Richard Nwankwo of Nigeria writes in this column that he wants the commonwealth and EU to keep out of Africa's political processes. Great idea except, unfortunately, the Africans won't let us! Every time there's a food/medical/war crisis in Africa, the ex-colonial powers are expected to bail in with food (Ethiopia), medical supplies and doctors (everywhere in Africa), and guns and soldiers (Sierra Leone - who, apparently, would like us to recolonise the place) - the money for all of which comes out of the nasty ex-colonials pockets! Doubtless, unless Mugabe dies or is shot (hopefully the latter), we will be called upon to do all the above yet again! You can't have it both ways, Mr Nwankwo!
Scott, South African in UK
I think people need to separate rhetoric from the facts. Suspending Mugabe from the Commonwealth is meaningless. Mugabe is a despot of little to no redeeming qualities. Zimbabwe's problems, and those of Africa as a whole, will not end with the removal of the Mugabes of Africa. More dictators will follow in their paths. Don't forget that these people have their deputies with much to lose from leaving power. I don't know where Africa would be without colonisation, though I think that the assumption that it would be nowhere demonstrates the kind of arrogance that people like Mugabe use to their benefit. Africa's problems will eventually have to be solved by Africans. The idea of a few thousand people owning a third of a country's land is repugnant, regardless of whether those people are white or black. There are those that say that these white farmers are responsible for most of Zimbabwe's foreign exchange, and that is true. But what do you expect when they own so much land?
No I do not think this will have any effect on what this country is experiencing. It will only increase his hatred for the remaining whites and first world governments. You need to realise how this man has such a hatred for non-Africans in the true sense.
Martin Leahy, Zimbabwe (UK)
There are so many dictators in Commonwealth that Mugabe looks like a saint.
Zimbabwe continues to be a lesson for all the free world. Legal plunder is still the order of the day and civil unrest is met with death or imprisonment. I suggest the free world just take notes and watch while this whole situation self-destructs. Once this happens, then civilized people can attempt to reconstruct a society that enforces individual rights and property rights.
Banning Zimbabwe from the Commonwealth means nothing to Mugabe. As long has he is one of the wealthiest dictators around, and his wife can shop at Harrods, what does he care?
I think the best move would be to put him in a cell in The Hague. I'm sure he has a lot to talk to Milosevic about.
The suspension of Zimbabwe is just another arrogant move to meddle in African affairs.
Very amusing reading, all the comments about the terrible things the colonials did. I would be fascinated to see where ex-colonies would be today had they not been colonised. Come on - how long are the Mugabes of the world going to keep blaming the state of their countries on 'white imperialism'? You've had plenty of time to sort yourselves out but instead have almost without exception allowed corruption to drive your countries into the ground. The colonials may have done some bad things, but you are not helping yourself or Zimbabwe, Mr Mugabe.
Sue Hudson, London, UK
Mugabe should be sitting next to Milosevic in the court at The Hague being tried for mass murder.
The decision to suspend Zimbabwe from the Commonwealth is welcomed and long overdue.
If the election was neither free nor fair, then the present government of Mugabe should not be recognised at all. The EU should withdraw all its ambassadors from country so should the US and all Commonwealth partners as a legitimate sign protest.
Mugabe needs to feel the pinch because at the moment the only thing that will make him see sense is death. He wants to take the country down with him.
But because of the blatant and hypocritical double standards of the West when it comes to these critical issues, I don't see anyone making such a bold move.
There should one rule, for ALL, not for some.
Joseph Chifamba, Zimbabwe
Well congrats to presidents Mbeki and Obasanjo for taking this action. It is a pity; this was not done before the election. Now is the time to put mass pressure on the Mugabe regime. This will certainly work. The international community, must isolate Zimbabwe, until ZANU PF has no choice but to call new elections. The only way forward for Zimbabwe is a complete change in government. Change is always difficult initially, but it will benefit Zimbabwe fully. South Africa was isolated in such a way until the apartheid regime capitulated.
The people of Zimbabwe need to be free. The struggle is now against Mugabe and his illegal government.
Yes. I think it was right to suspend Zimbabwe because it shows just how fickle the presence of the Commonwealth is. It is a relic of Colonialism and at a time like this with the "white" powers against Mugabe and the African powers against or neutral because of fear of retribution in the form of withdrawn financial aid it just exposes what principles the Commonwealth was built on.
I think the fact that the Swiss Banks have frozen Mugabe's offshore bank accounts will have more effect that the suspension from the Common Wealth.
Jacob Babarinde, Nigerian, in the UK
Absolutely! President Mugabe is a disgrace to forward looking Africans. Of course opportunists would look at this is a different light!
Absolutely right! African leaders who claim that the election in Zimbabwe was free and fair only reveal how they themselves come to Power through a similarly "Free and Fair" election. A typical case of scratch my back - I will scratch yours. Dictators have no eyes to recognise true democracy.
"We believe in the liberty of the individual under the law, in equal rights for all citizens regardless of gender, race, colour, creed or political belief, and in the individual's inalienable right to participate by means of free and democratic political processes in framing the society in which he or she lives;" - Harare Declaration, 20 October 1991.
If Mugabe can't follow the rules he shouldn't be in the club. The Commonwealth would be betraying its own principles if it suffered Zimbabwe to remain a member.
The Mugabe regime is determined to stay in power at all costs, so more action is required against them, The USA must step up its efforts to investigate ZanuPF for its links with the Taleban and the AL-Qaeda and also be dealt with accordingly and that's the only way that can move them.
Charles, UK and USA
I have a feeling that the Commonwealth suspension of Zimbabwe for a token one year, lacks the will and the "teeth" necessary to bring about change within this Country, especially when they get a pass to participate in the Commonwealth games, and the Australian cricket team agrees to tour Zimbabwe. What is incongruous is the call for urgent financial aid by the EU and Commonwealth members to offset the destruction of the Zimbabwe economy by the target of a Commonwealth suspension! This does not make any sense?
The suspension is well come but more must be done to press for fresh elections monitored by Un, EU, Commonwealth and must come to Zimbabwe six months before the elections. Mbeki must be tougher on Mugabe otherwise he will be the next Mugabe in SA.
Human, Planet Earth
Suspending Zimbabwe was the "easy" thing to do. If the world leaders are really true to their intentions they should now start doing something practical to improve the lives of Zimbabweans (how about arresting Mr M the first time he comes to London to shop or seek medical treatment?).
The suspension means nothing much except that Britain will not interfere in our affairs directly. We don't wish to rejoin the club in the future
This is the least that should be done. Targeted sanctions should be next
Too little too late. It is morally correct but will be completely ineffective.
The Commonwealth's done right. Unfortunately it has come a bit too late. Besides, Mugabe doesn't care and true to honesty it was merely a question of time because he knew this was coming. I believe regional leaders could have done more than we've seen, then this suspension would have been a lot meaningful. Coming at this time, to a lot of people, it's merely symbolic if not totally without consequence.
Finally. This is not a case of white farmer vs. blacks. This is a case of a Leader knowing he is trouble and playing the race card on a minority group to divert attention from the fact his opponents are also black and his government is corrupt. Also sanctions work. They freed South Africa. Unfortunately many African leaders owe Mugabe favours and are reluctant to say anything bad about him.
One hundred percent correct to suspend Zimbabwe.
It'll be treated with absolute contempt by Mugabe but at least it's a clear message of affirmation for those many Zimbabweans who believe in civil liberty and rule of law and a message to those who don't that their criminal actions are not acceptable.
The suspension alone is nowhere near strong enough but it's the first glimmer of hope for Zimbabwe since the elections.
I think more should be done to stop Mr. Mugabe, if it were white farmers attacking blacks there would be an uproar, racism needs stamping out just as swiftly when it's black on white.
No though I don't support Robert Mugabe. I do not think it was right it is the Zimbabweans who suffer in the long run.
All the turmoil is concentrated in urban areas where the support for MDC and ZANU-PF is tilted towards MDC maybe on a 60-40 split. In rural areas, all the support is for the present ruling party. I may not like it and the world may not like it but the Zimbabwe rural majority like it. Since there is a one-man-one vote system in Zimbabwe, it's going to take a while for MDC to gain enough popularity. The Commonwealth should not dictate its wishes to the people of Zimbabwe. It is a sad day in London, UK when the Commonwealth is trying to make their vote count more than the voice of the Zimbabwe people.
Paul Connor, Canada
Suspending Zimbabwe is not only the right thing to do but also the only thing to do, as far as the Commonwealth is concerned. I am pleased to see that Presidents Mbeki and Obasanjo backed the suspension. It is about time that African Presidents start looking out for the African people and not the African dictators such as Mugabe.
How can people say the commonwealth is "a forum of Africa's colonial masters and still represents the interest of imperialism" when two of the three leaders making today's decision were African?
Yes the Commonwealth was right - I definitely think it's about time a joint international statement of condemnation is made against Mugabe's dictatorship. Unfortunately I agree with others that it will probably have little impact on Mugabe himself, and for the rest of Zimbabwe I pray.
What a drop encouragement in a desert of desolation this suspension is! Well done you three. I know two of you were dragged by your hair screaming to get to this decision but well done all the same. Mugabe should now realise he is a sad excuse for a leader. If he is sane he will finally notice the only people who can rescue from his phantom fight with Blair are Zimbabweans. Look after us and may be we will let you go along with your delusions. Whatever happened to One Man One Vote
Has any thought been given as to where the rulers of these African states would be if the colonialist had not gone there in the first place?
William B Clarke, UK
The commonwealth played straight into Mugabe's hands again. Free food, thrown out of a commonwealth he hates anyway, and most Zimbabweans have never been told what democracy or the commonwealth really are to start with.
The violence in Zimbabwe is deplorable. Punitive action needs to be taken directed towards Mugabe and his cronies with minimal suffering for innocent Zimbabwean people. For a change the west seems to be taking positive action in helping Zimbabwe, this should be applauded. I'm worried, though, by the fact that the western media highlights the suffering of white people in Zimbabwe more than that of blacks. We hear of white farmers dying in headlines while the killing of blacks is in small print, if at all mentioned.
Hurray! Not sure that it will have any effect on Mugabe, but at least the world is making a stand. Perhaps the beginning of the end for Mugabe.
Peter James, Zimbabwe
The Commonwealth's commitment to democracy is now in no doubt, neither is SA's, Nigeria's or Australia's. So far so good. Next step would be for SA to do some vigorous arm-twisting to get RGM to retire as soon as possible. Only then, perhaps, could there be a government of National Unity with even a ghost of a chance of doing some good.
Absolutely, they were so right to suspend Zimbabwe from the Commonwealth, this should have been done sooner though. They also need to decide what next step they are going to take as this cannot go on, White Farmers (not that it matters what colour they are) being killed because they are on African Land, these white farmers have been there for generations like our blacks, Asians etc have been here for generations and the UK is their country as much as it is ours, we cannot let this go on as it will spread into the other African countries. It is a pity that we cannot work together as all of our blood is the same colour it does not matter what colour skin we have
Cyprian Kambili, Malawian in UK
Are Zimbabweans not entitled to the same protection from the Commonwealth that was given to the people of Fiji?
Is democracy only one colour or for all colours?
Folks please stop patronizing Zimbabweans.
We are suffering under an illegal regime that stole our sovereignty.
Our voice must be heard.
Our candidate must rule.
Mugabe must go and the appeasement of his regime that has allowed him to remain in power over the last two years must stop.
Its a good idea to officially blackball Mugabe's government but will this mean we white farmers will be left to our own devices? I hope not. Not after the events from the past few weeks.
Andy Sithole, Zimbabwean in exile
This is a welcome development as it sends a clear message to those dictators in Africa who were planning similar tactics in the near future. Democracy has won decisively.
I think the Commonwealth did the right thing by suspending Zimbabwe. The problem is Zimbabwe's African neighbours don't and won't help because of their natural borders. They are reliant on Zimbabwe. Herein lies the problem. The fall in economic development par se in the SADC countries has no political clout and that is the real traveristy because it doesn't just affect the people in Zimbabwe it affects others in Zambia and Malawi to name a few countries.
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