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Thursday, 4 October, 2001, 12:38 GMT 13:38 UK
Should we create a life to save a life?
The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority is considering
an application from a couple in Leeds who want to have a genetically selected test tube baby to save the life of their two-year-old son.
The baby would act as a bone marrow donor for the boy, who has a rare genetic disorder. A bone marrow transplant from a genetically-identical sibling could spare him a lifetime of blood transfusions, or even prevent an early death. However, opponents say that the procedure would create a designer baby produced for spare parts. Should creating a life for the purpose of saving another be allowed? This debate is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below.
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If it were simply a matter of selecting a particular egg and sperm for the parents, that would be one thing. However, it sounds as if this "selection" process involves the creation of an unlimited number of embryos, until a "suitable" one is found, with the "unsuitable" ones presumably being destroyed. Even then, the odds are against the "chosen" embryo surviving the whole process. This strikes me as going much too far towards the notion of killing unwanted people for me to find it at all acceptable.
I think that in this particular case, the dilemma is just on an academic level. In my opinion, whether this procedure should be allowed should not be questionable at all. Those who oppose that should have a moral strength to tell this sick boy: Your life could be saved, but that simply cannot be done because of our moral questions.
I can only say that I pray God that this new baby will be born healthy and that will be able to save the life of the older brother.
With such a situation as presented here in this distressing case, it seems so easy to say yes.
If yes is said in this case, then what about the next one - just as tragic and imperative - but just that little bit towards a "spare part" baby.
So say yes by all means but please let's have a clear line defined at this time - this is acceptable and this is not.
I wonder how the child will feel when he or she finds a newspaper report stating "Child created to save the life of brother". The psychological implications of such a horrible act could be enough to cause the 'donor' child to commit suicide.
John B, UK The tissue to save Zain's life will not come from the baby, but from the umbilical cord - an organ usually discarded. Maybe better use could be made of these organs in hospitals after birth, and then such heartrending decisions may not be necessary in the future. Those of you who believe it to be morally wrong - would you have put forward your own child's placenta and cord to be used? Maybe this is another good reason for an 'opt-out' organ register, rather than an 'opt-in' one.
Catherine Cox, UK Life is sacred, yes. I believe that this is a solution purely as a last option, but it must be monitored by the social services. This child's life (should it be allowed) must be on an equal footing. Bone marrow may be taken, but only once and no more without the child's own consent.
I agree that having a child to save the life of another is the right thing to do. It has long been claimed that one of the most noble acts is to give life to save another. These parents are only helping to bring the process forward.
Shaun from Teignmouth says 'It has long been claimed that one of the most noble acts is to give life to save another'. Surely this is only if the life is your own, not somebody else's.
If a child needs a bone marrow donor and no one else is able/willing to do this then why not bring a human into the world that can. As long as the parents will love it then that's OK.
However, if this baby is to be permanently co-opted into being a donor, then this is worse than being born into slavery. If a child is being planned, it should be wanted for its own sake, not for the convenience of others, even if part of the reason is to try to save another child's life. You cannot trade one child's life for another.
God created Eve using part of Adam, and that was the beginning of life. This procedure could be the beginning of the end of disease. To say "yes" is a step forward in the evolution of man
To refer to "spare parts" in this context is the most disgusting emotional blackmail. Unfortunately, only too typical of the anti-abortion / religious-bigotry alliance. My message to the parents is that these arguments are morally destitute. Having your second child gives hope for all your family. Make your decision and good luck and love to you all.
Paul C, Scotland The creation of a test tube baby is not the creation of life by humankind; the life still comes from powers inexplicable to us. If there is no danger for the new baby throughout the process, I would support the parents' decision.
I feel that if a second child is created to save the life of his brother, he will end up having emotional problems as he gets older: "I was not wanted, just made so mum and dad would have spare parts." Maybe the child would feel less important to the parents. And how would it affect a new child if he or she couldn't help? I know lots of children are brought into the world with worse emotional problems, but we must try. They do not ask for the baggage they're given at birth!
Zoe, London, UK At least in this case the child will be wanted.
As for any "moral" argument, what are morals anyway? A few years ago homosexuality was a criminal offence, unmarried mothers were sent to mental institutions, etc. No doubt in few years time all will change again.
Jesus Christ himself was a human life created to save the lives of many others. The issue here is that for humans to create a particular life with the right genes they must firstly kill off many other lives that don't have the correct genetic information - that is where the problem lies in this type of science.
Michael L Littleton, Montana, USA
What is the problem? People who oppose this are a bit selfish. Whatever way we create a life shouldn't matter. We don't live in the middle ages anymore.
Bob, UK
Yes. And the icing on the cake is if both the lives could be saved. Eventually this is what this research will lead to. Finally there will be no need for creating a whole life at all. The organs and other tissues will just as easily be cloned. However to reach that stage one has to start somewhere.
For thousands of years man has asked himself, 'Why am I here?'
Now one lucky child will have an answer.
This is a very dangerous precedent. How far into the abyss is it from 'selecting' a baby to be a bone marrow donor to 'selecting' one for (say) a kidney donor to save the life of a sibling. It is then only a small ethical step to create a baby purely for their spare parts benefit. Procreation is all about adding often unexpecte diversity into our gene pool - what diversity is being added here. Also I think that these parents believe that they have the 'right' to have a child. Children are not a right, they are a reponsibility.
What happens if this doesn't work and the child dies anyway? Or if the procedure fails and the new baby is born with the same condition? What would happen then - yet another baby? Can doctors guarantee success?
That's not to say that I'm necessarily against this. Babies are born for a wide variety of reasons, not just love. They can be born in an attempt to fix broken marriages, to replace grown-up or lost children. I don't think having a baby to save the life of its sibling is wrong. But the family have to have thought it through and not have gone for this option in a moment of understandable desperation. The consequences may not be as positive as those experienced by the American family who went through a similar situation.
To Helen from London: I'm guessing that the couple have "thought it through" as you say. I Imagine they have thought of nothing else recently. If there is a way of preventing their second child having a the same genetic disease the first then they should do it. Can't you understand that they would still love their second child just as much as if he or she had be conceived naturally ? And that he or she could save young Kain's life?
Alexandra, USA
The idea that these people would consider engineering a child, a human being, essentially for spare parts, makes me feel so sick that I can't even describe. Never mind all the people who say that this is nothing like cloning: this is the thin end of the extremely arrogant wedge along which the human race is travelling in order to cheat nature. If the treatment had arisen as a natural consequence as I have heard about previously with foetal stem cells from placenta that's one thing. What they are talking about is treating a life like a chemical, a drug. The whole idea is depraved.
It's interesting that so many people find it immoral, horrific, unethical, or whatever, that anyone should be born solely to save another's life. I wonder how many people are born for no other reason than their parents omitting to use a contraceptive. Isn't that unacceptable too? Or does unacceptability only come into play when the word "scientist" is involved?
This is not playing God anymore than administering drugs or performing operations. We have the knowledge and skills to help this child. We should use it. To object on religious grounds would be as bad as a Jehovah's Witness allowing a child to die from the lack of a blood transfusion.
In this case I see no sensible reason for any group or organisation to object. If they do, it's either incredible mean-mindedness or just to get some airtime. If the couple concerned have no moral qualms themselves, they should go ahead. If the situation were reversed and it was the first child to act as a donor to the second child, this issue would not have gotten into the news.
The only people who are in a position to comment on this are the parents of the child. It's all very well getting on the moral high horse about designer babies, but I'd like to see how any of you objectors would react if it was your own child at stake. Somehow I doubt you would simply stand by and allow them to die for the sake of your 'morals'.
Christopher Laird, Japan We should really be waiting for advances in medical science so that lives can be saved without others having to be made. I don't have a problem with 'spare parts' being created using an individual's genetic code, but when they come housed in the body of another serious ethical questions are raised.
I cannot think of anything more disgraceful than creating a baby just to save the life of another. It is better to spend the money finding ways to cure the diseases that have made this suggestion spring up in the first place.
First of all, do they want another baby? If they do, why not make sure this baby does not have the genetic disorder suffered by his sibling, thus ensuring he can give life to his sibling?
Adric, UK
It won't matter to the world what people's opinions are. Scientists and doctors will use genetically modified DNA in the name of science for their own reasons and beliefs, and they will not accept the responsibility when the clone asks why? Personally I wouldn't like it if I was told my only purpose of being born was to save another. I don't think that would do much good for my self-worth. As for the scientists, they would blame it on my parents for making the decision in giving me life.
I feel very sorry for the parents, but at the end of the day, time and time humans have found out that if you mess with nature that's exactly what you get - a mess.
It is time things like this were stopped.
Paul Rossi, Philadelphia, USA
What do they tell the second child? You weren't so much an afterthought as a set of spare parts?
The choices open to the parents are:
1) Have another child which is genetically selected and should save their son's life.
As a mother I prefer the first option as it ensures their son will live. Hopefully the baby will be a welcome addition to the family. Or if the baby is unwanted it could be put up for adoption, hence helping a childless couple.
Over the years babies have been used for much worse things than saving another child's life, for example: to get on the housing list or force a man into marriage.
Finally this is not producing a baby for spare parts, as the baby itself is not harmed.
Jen, UK
This is a challenge. Do we design a baby to help someone else, and potentially reduce the cost to the NHS? Or is it morally and ethically wrong?
We cannot play God, we are each individual. Will the "designer" baby have the same problems that befell Dolly the sheep? Possibly, and it may take decades for us to realise our mistakes.
Jane, Cardiff, Wales, UK
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