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Thursday, 3 May, 2001, 09:00 GMT 10:00 UK
How should our countryside change?

The face of the British countryside could radically change as a result of the foot-and-mouth crisis.

A survey of British farmers affected by the disease found that six percent of them were planning to abandon farming altogether. More than a third will scale down their business.

The head of the farmer's union said foot-and-mouth could prove a turning point towards "quality not quantity" in farming methods, and an industry more responsive to consumers.

He called for a national debate on the sort of farming industry that would emerge from the crisis.

What sort of industry should that be? How can something good come out of the foot-and-mouth disaster? News Online starts the debate here.

This debate is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below.


Your reaction

My family and I returned to New Zealand in January, having lived in Northumberland for five years. We can only imagine - through your reports and letters from friends - the fields devoid of all animal life. What we should learn from this tragedy is that human wants cannot always be satisfied without considering the natural environment. For too long man has been blinded by profit and export issues, forgetting the responsibility we have to preserve the environment as it is. Surely this is an excellent opportunity to return to more localised, sustainable agriculture - no more intensive rearing of animals in unnatural conditions, or feeding animal remains to herbivores. In short, more organic farming, before it's too late.
Charlotte Harpin, New Zealand

"Local produce should be grown for local people" is a frequent comment, but most small, local abattoirs have been forced to close. Unless they are reopened, long distance travel for live animals will continue.
Andrew , UK


Globalisation seems to be the worst answer to a local problem

John B, UK
It does seem rather bizarre to rear livestock and transport them hundreds of miles to an abattoir only to transport the dead animals hundreds of miles back again. Even more bizarre is the notion of exporting meat to the US while importing meat from New Zealand. Perhaps if livestock were reared, slaughtered and consumed within a smaller area, the animals would suffer less distress, and costs would surely be lower. In this instance globalisation seems to be the worst answer to a local problem.
John B, UK

It's quite clear from the attitude of the farming community during the current foot-and-mouth crisis that the livestock farmers were only interested in a return to a 'disease free' status so that they could resume exports as before. Any attempt at introducing a vaccination policy was aggressively opposed. In view of this, I can't imagine there will be any change in farming methods after this crisis is past. Everything will be ' back to normal' and the whole episode will be neatly forgotten - until the next outbreak of the disease - at which point everyone will start shouting "Why weren't the lessons of the last outbreak learnt?"
Scott Whitehead, Germany

Something appears to have been forgotten - farmers feed this country. Anyone who thinks we don't need farmers because they can pop down to Safeway/Tesco have the same grasp on reality that Marie Antoinette is reported to have had.
Gerry, Scotland

Let's see cows and sheep free to roam in fields and get out of "factory" farming altogether. I personally would rather pay five times as much for my meat if I knew it was safe to eat and the animal had something of a "normal" existence rather than being rolled out of a production shed.
Mike Allan, Kent. U.K.


No farmer wants to farm intensively

Chris Berry, UK
Lets get one thing straight. No farmer wants to farm intensively. Farms have been taken down this path because successive governments have not given the necessary thought and imagination as to how the industry should be assisted. It's so easy to give figures with lots of zeros at the end, it's quite another to bother to understand the topic.

Agriculture needs people who care! Until those are in place then the next government will only continue to deal with disaster rather than being pro-active. It's just a shame that the farming population now makes up such a small proportion of the electorate. If foot-and-mouth disease had been an inner city problem you can bet your life that the Labour Party would have been jumping around with a great degree of alacrity.
Chris Berry,Leeds UK

There will always be demand for niche agricultural products, but it will always be cheap to produce most produce in the second and Third World. By fighting and spending so much trying to avoid this fact we are playing a large part in consigning the Third World to poverty. Would it not be better to use more land for recreation and tourism and make the rest into habitats for our wild animals.
Graham Kenyon, UK

Yes let's go organic but don't moan about the size of the queue or the price of the food.
W, UK


This will make our overpopulated island very vulnerable if we fall out with our suppliers

Alastair Muirhead, Perth
Every region of the world can produce one type of food or another. Our latitude and climate is one of the best in the world for producing grass. As we cannot eat grass ourselves we have to eat the animals that do. We always have, since we migrated here. It is all very well saying we should be vegetarian, but we cannot produce enough proteins for our population to survive.

It is environmentally damaging to fly or ship in foods taken from countries hungrier than us. Nobody likes to kill animals, but it is a reality that mature people have to accept. This country has the highest animal welfare in the world due to demands by the public. Why then do they buy pizza topped with Italian salami meat made from horses and donkeys transported live from Eastern Europe? Because it is cheaper than anything we can produce here. If we decide that our countryside is more valuable as parkland and we import more food from less valuable countries as previously suggested by others, this will make our overpopulated island very vulnerable if we fall out with our suppliers. We will be held to ransom and milked dry.
Alastair Muirhead, Perth

If land is uneconomic to farm, let it be used for other things - industry or housing - that will bring prosperity to rural areas. Promote the movement of people out of cities into rural areas by letting farmers develop their land how they see fit.
Roger Hayes, UK

Farmers need to hear the words "No more subsidies, no more handouts, stand on your own two feet". The basic problem is that we have too many farms that are not viable and they have to go. Contrary to farmers' propaganda, the countryside isn't going to disappear when they do. We need more open land, more common land, more wild land. We'll get it when we pull the plug on the handouts.
David E Flavell, England

Those correspondents who want change need to understand that unless the EU agrees the changes - we won't be allowed to make them! The EU dictates how we farm, not MAFF or our elected representatives in Westminster.

Sensible people wanting sensible change have to first understand that withdrawal from the EU may be the only way to achieve the change. Such an action would of course bring us enormous financial gains as well, and give us the opportunity to rescue our fishing grounds and rebuild our fishing industry. Not a bad decision to take I'd have thought.
Derek Thornton, England

Farming in this country is largely economically non-viable simply due to the scale of the operations. As a leading member of today's global economy why don't we simply buy our food from those who produce it cheaper and leave British farmers to grow fresh goods for immediate consumption (things which don't travel well) or speciality foods (cheeses, cider etc). Then with cheaper land prices we can live in decent size houses, build better infrastructure systems and concentrate on our national competitive advantage, the knowledge economy. At the end of the day there will be a lot more free space which will encourage the development of wildlife sanctuaries and forests which will be nicer for all of us.
Ben, UK

If farming is to survive as a viable business use of the countryside then it has to adapt to the economic realities which face it. Land in this country is highly pressured by our population density, making it a valuable and expensive resource. If farming is to gain the kind of return on its assets which would enable it to survive as a viable business, then it must begin to produce goods which reflect the costs and value of the resources used in its' production.
Eoin Donnellon, UK

I'd like to see a start made in eliminating all subsidies to farmers. Quite why this industry alone warrant the billions that are poured into it, I've never quite worked out. When they are not paid to farm in the appalling ways that they currently do, maybe the consequential shake out will result in fewer people performing more effectively and efficiently -and more humanely.
Howard J. Rogers, Australia

We could make a start by telling politicians who've never been near a farm in their lives to shut up and listen to someone like The Prince of Wales, who has.
Jon Livesey, USA


The problem with the idea that farming could be turned over to organic methods is that yields would decrease and we would have to import more

Abigail, UK
The problem with the idea that farming could be turned over to organic methods is that yields would decrease and we would have to import more. This goes against the basic idea that we should be able to support our own population in times of crisis. Unless the population decreases by two thirds intensive farming is here to stay.
Abigail, UK

Farming in this country, and indeed in much of Europe, just cannot compete globally, so why waste tens of billions in trying, doing great damage to the environment in the process? The biggest favour we could do the so-called "third world" would be allow their food free access to our markets. We keep their food out, so the farmers who would otherwise be growing it, either starve or become illegal immigrants. Madness! As for the areas in this country which would no longer be farmed? Housing, myriad leisure uses, proper national parks, or maybe just let it gradually return to its natural state.
Mark, UK

A move to a more sustainable, less intensive and locally based agricultural economy would be a wonderful thing. But, to accomplish this, we need to support the families who live on and work the land. One, more nightmarish, result of more farmers going under could be the land becoming concentrated under the ownership of large scale, mono-cultural mega-farms. That is what has happened to much of American agriculture and it would be an ecological and cultural disaster for Britain.
Brett, UK/USA

Farming is so vital to the life of the UK that two things may need to happen:

  • there should be more incentive for farmers to continue farming and for members of younger generations to continue farming
  • more advanced technology may be needed to make farming more sustainable.
    However, what is also very important is the preservation of the beauty of the countryside, for tourists and farmers alike.
    Emma, Australia

    Maff are supposed to protect the farming communities, but it has not done its job. Let's be courageous and become the first nation to be completely organic; subsidise the small farmers during the transition. The outcome would be a healthier, happier nation.
    Glenda Benner, England


    Let the immigrants into Britain and let the farmers sell their land to the developers

    Tom, Australia
    More emphasis on animal welfare for farm animals is needed and encouragement for smaller ventures that produce food naturally. Large areas of land should be turned over to reforestation and wildlife - possibly even the reintroduction of extinct species such as beaver and wolf that would be an asset for tourism.
    Alan, UK

    My family have decided to become vegetarians until the farming policies have changed. i.e: no live exports; more organic methods of farming; no intensive farming of poultry.
    I am ashamed of what farming has become. As a child I could actually eat the "cowcake" we fed the milking cows. It was made from linseed, cereals and molasses - so what happened? It is all very sad.
    Jean, UK

    The farming community will stagger from one crisis to another until as a nation we see the startling hypocrisy and unending misery inherent in the modern intensive farming of animals.
    Bob Wilson, UK

    We are being told that far less than 5% of live-stock has actually been lost, so we still need the farming space. We need to supply stock for local food needs and not transport live animals for miles before slaughter.
    If there is going to be any spare countryside, we should be planting more trees for re-generation of air quality for everyone, not building yet more new houses. We are losing trees at an alarming rate.
    Phil, UK

    It is time to put total support into our farming. There should be a greater support to go organic. Put a stop to supermarket chains having the monopoly on cheap meat This is a national crisis. We should unite and support. After all we have the best beef herds in the world as well as sheep and pigs. Let's all back British and be proud again.
    Doki Poole, England

    This is a wonderful opportunity to start again. We could have many more organic farms, and a reforestation policy for unused land. Why don't British farmers rethink their practices and do what the French farmers do - sell good quality local produce in local markets?
    A move away from bad practice and factory farming could produce a real renaissance in the countryside.
    Khan, UK

    I think everyone would like to see more organic produce and humanely reared meat (i.e. non-intensive) but at the moment, it's far too expensive.

    When was the last time you saw a traditional hay meadow bursting with wild flowers?

    Ben Cornwell, UK
    We all hear about how farmers grow so much food it's fetching less than it costs to grow but they are living on subsidies, so why not grow less better quality stuff?
    We should definitely start using less intensive methods - everyone would benefit, from countryside users through to wildlife and plants.
    Ben Cornwell, UK

    The solution to this problem and that of immigration to rich countries can be solved at the same time. Let the immigrants into Britain and let the farmers sell their land to the developers.
    Small areas such as Dartmoor and the Lakes can be preserved as nature museums. What is now being done piecemeal may as well be carried out with a strategy to assist farmers and refugees.
    Tom, Australia

    We have to have a farming system that meets the needs of the coming century where there will be 12 billion people on the planet. Since they cannot be fed on a meat-centric diet isn't it time we scaled-down our raising of animals for slaughter and grew more crops? We'd have better health as a result.
    Tharg Thargson, UK


    What this country lacks is space

    Clive Mitchell, UK
    What this country lacks is space. If farming is not viable, perhaps we can have houses with rooms instead of cupboards and gardens instead of patches, at prices we can afford. And still have a few acres free for parks and playing fields.
    Clive Mitchell, UK

    Quality not quantity. Let's revert to practises friendly to native fauna and flora. Subsidise the range of species growing land accessible to the public, not the crazy system we have now where sometimes the subsidy is linked to the volume of produce and sometimes to the amount of non- production. Stamp out unhealthy and environmentally damaging practises like long-distance transportation of live animals and the spraying of slurry onto pasture. Encourage small units rather than giant agro-business conglomerates.
    Brian Beesley, UK

    Local produce should be grown for local people wherever possible. Enough of transporting 500 miles if it can be sold locally.
    Helen, UK


    I think we should return to more traditional methods for farming

    Guy Robinson, UK
    I think we should return to more traditional methods for farming, to seek better yields per animal and ensure ecological standards. The countryside should be considered a common treasury that everyone should seek to preserve and maintain as it will enable us to bring in the tourist pound. We must avoid turning it into a series of closed estates, reserved only for the rich and instead lay down better public transport infrastructure for visitors and the rural poor.
    Guy Robinson, UK

    How can we change the countryside? We could start by paving it. All that mud ruins my 4x4.
    Paul, UK

    I'd like more emphasis on quality of both product and environment and if I had my way there would be more organic farming.
    P, UK

    Well first cull MAFF and replace it with an agency to look after the interests of the consumers and even the farm animals themselves. That would mean also getting rid of factory farms and stopping live transport and turning herbivore animals into cannibals.
    Gill, UK

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