Leaderless and languishing in the polls.
Perhaps there's no better time for the Liberal Democrats to do some soul searching.
Less than a week after Sir Ming Campbell's resignation, the contest for what's been dubbed "Britain's least attractive political prize" is on.
But what can the battle between Chris Huhne - who finished second behind Sir Ming in the last contest - and the party's rising star Nick Clegg - hope to achieve for the party? What direction do the Lib Dems need to head in to avoid being squeezed by Labour and the Conservatives?
And what do the party's activists - those who'll have a vote in choosing the next leader - want to see? We debate these issues.
But first our reporter Ben Shore's been to Winchester in Hampshire - a Lib Dem parliamentary seat since 1997.
It's a constituency David Cameron's Conservatives will be very keen to win back at the next election.
What do party members - and voters - there want to here from Messrs Huhne and Clegg?