Sunday AM, Sunday 12 February 2006
Gordon Brown MP, Chancellor to the Treasury
Andrew Marr interviewed the Chancellor, Gordon Brown, ahead of a major speech on terror that he will deliver on Monday 13 February 2006.
Mr Brown said that ID cards are vital to protect the UK from a repeat of the July 7 terror attacks.
He rejected claims that the scheme was "unBritish" and said that proper safeguards would be in place to ensure civil liberties were protected.
Mr Brown said: "The British way of doing it is to be both tough on security measures and to build in proper systems of accountability to Parliament that give protections to people's individual civil liberties.
"It is a protection of people's individual civil liberties that we do not allow people to multiply their identities or operate on false identities."
He pointed out that the leader of the September 11 attacks - and the pilot of the first plane to hit the Twin Towers - used a false identity.
Referring to the apparent abuse of Iraqis by British soldiers, captured on a video obtained by the News of the World today, would anger "loyal troops" by undermining the work they are doing.
The video appears to show soldiers brutally kicking and beating the youths with wooden batons and fists. Mr Brown said:
"If it is true this is unacceptable behaviour.
"I believe that the Ministry of Defence has already said that this will be investigated fully.
Those who are responsible will be brought to trial and I think the people who will be most annoyed about this are our loyal, hardworking, decent troops.
"Our forces will see this as a slight on the great work they're doing and will be more furious that anybody else."
Speaking about the future leadership of the Labour Party, the Chancellor denied outright that any deal had been done with Tony Blair.
He said he would welcome a contest for the leadership.
Simon Hughes MP, President of the Liberal Democrats
The Liberal Democrat leadership contender Simon Hughes told Andrew that he would fight any moves by the Chancellor to extend the time terrorist suspects can be held without trial.
He said it would be "hugely disrespectful" of the Government to push ahead with a longer detention period:
"It was the House of Commons that decided, for example, that there should be detention for 28 days because the evidence justified that.
"If the Chancellor, as I understand, is going to come and say that we need to look at a 90-day detention without trial that is being hugely disrespectful of Parliament .
"We still have a government which is very authoritarian trying to impose its will in ways which I don't think chime with the traditions of the British people."
Referring to the Lib Dem leadership race, Mr Hughes insisted the contest was still "wide open" today as a poll gave him a healthy lead among party supporters.
The actor, Ian Richardson, spoke to Andrew about his return to the West End after a ten year gap.
Newspapers reviewed by P D James and Kevin Maguire
He talked also about his most famous screen incarnation, the wily Francis Urquhart in the BBC political drama 'House of Cards'.
The newspapers were reviewed by the crime novelist PD James and the Daily Mirror's Associate Editor, Kevin Maguire.
Sunday AM returns on Sunday 19 February 2006 at the usual time of 9.00am