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Overall I thought the programme was very good, and built a compelling case for a review of the Clydach case. I thought that some parts were thin however, and I think the decision to broadcast Phil Parry's undercover conversation with Stephen Lewis was wrong. I know the BBC normally doesn't normally sanction these stings lightly. But I thought this decision was unjustified, and will weaken the position of your own journalists in the future. How can someone have confidence in the word of a BBC journalist in future that conversations are off-the-record? The information you elicited as a result of the sting did not seem to me enough to justify this tactic.
Tom Rees, Wales

Like many people living in the Clydach area I have difficulty accepting the result of the David Morris trial. I think that there is much we do not know and after seeing the programme on BBC last night I am more doubtful than ever that the right person is in jail. I am sure that had the jurors known just a few of the facts highlighted in this programme they would have had difficulty in finding this man guilty.

It is indeed a very sad case as the Mandy Power's family have gone through the most horrific experience and I cannot imagine what their feelings must be like if they saw the programme. One can only feel the utmost sympathy for them but we do have to remember that there others who are also finding life very difficult at present and that is the Morris family. I have found it very difficult to understand how so much evidence has not seen the light of day. The E-fit picture in particular really beggars belief.

We as a nation owe both these families an answer, to simply say that the court case against Morris was a true account of what took place is simply just not acceptable and an independent public enquiry should take place immediately to ascertain if there is other evidence that we have not heard. Leaving things as they stand is just not an option any longer there are too many unanswered questions.
Gordon, Wales

Wonderful programme, congratulations. Maybe 99 percent of the population in Wales do not agree with the idea of Morris being innocent, but a large percentage of the population do not agree that the police are innocent either. If Morris was taking drugs, or was in the state suggested, many doubt he would have been that tuned up to dispose of such incriminating evidence.
Name supplied, Wales

Having suffered a Miscarriage of Justice at the hands of South Wales Police one can only hope the Home Secretary orders a Public Inquiry in the light of the programme so we can identify what has gone wrong in all these cases moreover to establish how we can stop these Miscarriages of Justice from occuring in the future and most importantly to identify the Officers and others concerned who abused their power to obtain these convictions and make them accountable for their actions, only then will the police restore some confidence within the public domain
Michael O`Brien,Wales

An excellent piece of bias journalism. The programme lacked facts and relied wholely on supposition and insinuation and in general the Police in the UK, including South Wales Police, carry out a difficult job with the Public constantly criticising and looking for scapegoats. I would like to see an investigation into the programme's rejected footage, the people who think that Morris is gulity and that the Police have carried out a thorough investigation, like the Power Family for example. The public are not stupid, journalism is more corrupt than any other profession in the UK today.
K K, Pontypridd

Your programme on the South Wales Police Force was investigative journalism at its best, I find it difficult to believe just how little times have changed with regards to the fitting up of innocent persons by the police forces of this country. Recruitment practices must be significantly overhauled if the police force countrywide is to retain the respect of the people it serves, more attention must be paid to the intelligence of recuits, on the whole I feel that the force lacks people with this faculty at street level.
Ash Dar, England

I agree that your programme did bring up some worrying questions regarding some of the evidence in the Clydach murders, however this doesn't mean that Dai Morris is innocent, a lot of evidence which you failed to mention points to his guilt and I am disappointed that your programme was so biased. Being a Swansea resident I can also say that it is totally untrue that 99% of us think Dai Morris is innocent as stated by Lesley Jones.
Louise, Wales

With reference to the E-fit picture in "Fair Cops ?". The E-fit does appear to resemble the two Police Officers. However, is not an E-fit a rough impression? Besides, who saw the suspect? Was it not a motorist, at night!
Name Withheld, England

I hope your excellent programme will lead to an independent inquiry.
Jay, The Netherlands

Is it a fact that 99.9% of people think that morris is innocent? I think not. It is easy for BBC Wales to carry on the myth that David Morris is innocent, but he has been found guilty by a jury of his peers and then had two appeals tuned down. Perhaps the BBC should speak to more of the Power family. They think that the evidence confirms Morris' guilt.
Iain Mccallum, Wales

Congratulations on bringing this programme to the fore. Unless you have been touched personally or have helped those who find themselves in this situation, you have no idea of the trauma one goes through endeavouring to prove ones innocence to deaf ears. The media is at fault here also. I help run a UK national organisation, FASO, and constantly hear of the wrongful actions of our once great police force. Let us make the individual policemen and women accountable for their actions, with a proper accountability procedure, we might then start to get justice and less false arrests.
Margaret Gardener, Wales

'Fair Cops' - An excellent but distressing programme. If and when the South Wales Police apologise and expose the truth behind their wrongful arrests and imprisonments they might begin to build a force of trust. In the meantime people continue to suffer for no good reason.
Anne, N Ireland.

Very worrying to see incompetence shown by police officers who are experienced. But, I cannot help thinking that the BBC can be quite select in their editing of programmes to get that almost "tabloid" exclusive story. The BBC has to realise that the Police declined to be interviewed because some of the cases are still pending, possibly? And any comments would jeopardise the hearing. Come on BBC, let's look at the wider picture.
P.D.Morgan, Wales

As with the statement on your webpage quote "The e-mails published will be reflective of the messages we have been sent." Your reporting is reflective of what you want the public to hear and not a true representation of all the facts as you well know. One sided gutter journalism will not help anyone involved in these tragic cases.
Clive Jones, Wales

I thought the programme showed good insight to how unprofessional, corrupt and inhumane the police can be. Unfortunately I am not surprised, but hope this programme starts off new investigations and probe this matter further.
Shantha Shanmuganathan, England

The contempt in which the South Wales Police has held the justice system is symptomatic of the nationwide disease which has infected the force. Until there are independent judicial investigations into alleged police corruption and they have the power to prosecute the rotten apples there will always be innocent people going to jail.
Peter Polycarpou, UK

Panorama is good TV. They are very good at reporting on its on perception of situations, picking the pieces of evidence that they wish to highlight. If your reporting is concise in these matters especially the latest case, What are the Police authority doing? You did not ask or get any response from the local council officials which would make up the police authority for South Wales. They must be concerned or are they? I find you bias in your reporting and doubt that this will be published.
Pat McKeown, UK

This programme only grazes the tip of the iceberg and until we have a truly independent investigating body, not only for the Police Forces of this country but also for the other public organisations that are endemically corrupt. Where is the openness this Government promised? Keep up the good work BBC.
Tony Lowery, England

Sylvia Plummer's comments are depressingly indicative of a mindset which refuses to acknowledge that those with power and influence are just as capable of underhand and deceitful behaviour as those of us who have neither.
Mary-Ann Kruger, England

Having just watched your programme investigating the Clydach murders may I congratulate you all on a excellent investigation. I am a resident of Clydach and feel that the South Wales Police have a lot of explaining to do. Many of us here in Clydach have always thought David Morris to be innocent of these horrific crimes. Justice must be done for the people of Clydach, but more importantly justice must be done for Mandy and her family.
Gaynor Gregory, Wales

Police fit-ups happen, but the magnitude of this particular programme should give the government at least some insight into this problem, who polices the police? The neighbouring police force. It's ridiculous, in this day and age there should be an independent body to sniff out corrupt cops and their likes to end innocents being wrongly imprisoned.
Joe, Scotland

Is it any wonder that people have no confidence in the police after all the recent miscarriages of "justice"? In our legal system, when a crime has been committed the police are interested only in securing a conviction. Anyone will do, and if it happens that an innocent person is convicted that is a small price to pay to have a crime recorded as solved.
Paul, England

What a truly disturbing programme and well done to all concerned at the BBC for what may turn out to be a tremendous public service for the citizens of South Wales. I am sure I am not alone that whilst watching this programme I had the feeling of viewing a parallel universe. One of the key questions must be why does it take so long for this stuff to come to light and will the top brass eventually get by with the 'few bad apples story' that has been the byword of the police when exposed to their own behaviour for my adult lifetime of 40 years.
Simon Kenna, England

The programme about the South Wales police was a perfectly legitimate piece of investigative journalism, but the conclusion was a tawdry and cheap bit of nonsense. To suggest that the force in question were not prepared to answer your questions, on the basis of some sort of trumped-up excuse was dishonest and undermined (for me) much of what might otherwise have been a very credible programme.

Your programme editors and executives must clearly have realised that the claim of the issue being subjudice was entirely proper, that is, unless you do not deploy a legal team. Shame on you for such a piece of underhand subterfuge, which entirely detracted from might otherwise have been an entirely credible programme.
Michael J. Ball, UK

We often see these high profile cases, highlighted in the news. And to often innocent people have had their entire lives ruined because of poor, or even malicious policing, but we must also remember that crime is much like a pyramid - with the lesser crimes being at the bottom and more plentiful. And with the press and public screaming for more and more convictions, the pressure on the police must be intolerable. So with the recent changes in the law aimed solely at getting more convictions, how many innocent people will go to jail? No one seems to care about people who only get a few months or a couple of years. But even a short sentence can destroy a life.
M A Kinsey, UK

I am a serving officer for South Wales, we put our lives into the police service but we only ever get torn apart for the bad we do, never the crimes that we solve and people that we help. Joe Public wouldn't know how hard it is doing the job we do - they only focus on the scrutinising us.
Name withheld, Wales

Full marks to all associated with the Panorama programme. The programme consistently produces the best investigative and informative journalism on TV. In an era when ITV no longer produces investigative journalism of any worth, long gone are the days of Pilger, World in Action, This Week or TV Eye, it is essential that the BBC continues to use its unique position to question and challenge those in positions of power. Long may the programme continue.
Stephen Milner, UK

The South Wales Police Force can only have themselves to blame for this situation. The larger questions remain unanswered. Who killed Sandra Phillips? Who killed Harry and Megan Toose? Who was responsible for the fatal arson in Merthyr Tydfil? These questions require satisfactory answers.
Steve Close, Wales

I found your programme on alleged miscarriages of justice involving South Wales Police most disturbing. I feel unable to comment on all bar one of the cases mentioned - the Clydach murders.

Why didn't the programme test David Morris' whereabouts at the time of the murders more thoroughly? The programme also seemed to neglect to test why David Morris lied about his gold chain.

In the interests of balance, these references should have been included. Or was the programme more concerned with making headlines? I suggest that the people of Clydach could do without your cheap headlines.
Name supplied, Wales

There are two serious problems with the document produced by the police which "compares" the suspect photo fit to a photograph of Stephen Lewis. The programme correctly points out that the photo of Stephen Lewis has been distorted, therefore creating a false (and anatomically unlikely) impression of Lewis' proportions. However, just as misleading is the choice of the photo itself - which presents its subject from a three-quarters angle. It is completely inappropriate to compare this particular image to the photo fit, which represents a full-frontal angle. I find it unbelievable that such a glaring discrepancy was overlooked by the trial judge and by the defence counsel.
Jack O'Driscoll, UK

Congratulations to Panorama on a real eye-opener. I was horrified to learn that such miscarriages of justice can happen in the UK. More worryingly, how can a regional police force be allowed to repeat the same mistake so many times? Whatever happened to the basic principle of justice that an innocent person should never be wrongly convicted even if the murderer goes free?
Dr S Rai, England

I have always thought that an innocent man had been sent to prison once again, I feel that the appeal court should look at the evidence again. What is happening to the justice system? Can't they get anything right?
Glenn Morton, South Wales

The South Wales Police may not have any conscience, but what about the jury? Surely jurors who deliberated would have to retract their verdict after seeing such overwhelming evidence provided by Panorama?
Paul Valletta, Wales

David Morris did not resemble the e-fit anything like the twins. Presumably Morris did not have a red Peugeot car either. Great programme Panorama, but very worrying.
David, Wales

Excellent programme, and the second one in recent days which exposes the sinister side of the police service. It is programmes like these which are needed in our society to inform the general public about the potential in the police force to perpetrate unlawful behaviour. If this programme achieves anything it should, at least, contribute to the idea that men in uniform should enjoy no special credibility where matters of evidence are concerned. Well done to the BBC.
Jim Sutherland, UK

How can anybody call for the death penalty to be reintroduced after this programme?
Micky, England

After watching your programme tonight about the goings on with major inquires by the police, it seems to me that the only way we will ever stop the police doing things like this is to give those who do it the same sentence that the people being set up get. Maybe if we gave the police in the Guildford 4 and Birmingham 6 cases the same sentences we would not still be getting these miscarriages 15 years later.
Stephen Mcghee, Scotland

I have just seen your programme, which to me did not prove anything except you trying to make a name for yourselves. Personally I believe the police have a hard enough job to do without you continually trying to undermine them. We have enough do-gooders in this world without you joining the bandwagon. I would like to ask you one question, are there any guilty people in prison? Of course not - ask Panorama.
Sylvia Plummer, England

Your report raises several questions over the integrity during major investigations. Since the introduction of the Criminal Procedures and Investigative Act (CPIA), an officer would have compiled all the unused material gathered during the investigation, and completed a report if any items could undermine the case. It would be interesting what was included and the comments of the CPS lawyer(s) involved. There are more questions than there are answers - at present.
M Adams, Wales

I sincerely hope that this programme will result in the Home Office finally taking seriously the calls from various quarters that there needs to be a much greater degree of accountability for senior police officers.
Steve King, England

A fascinating insight into police methods and misconduct. Proving that the police officers named were responsible failed. If Phil Parry thinks he can solve a murder with the restrictions that the Police now work under, let him try from the outset of an investigation rather than years after the event. His undercover camera would get knocked on the head for a start. There are two side to every argument. When do we see the other side?
Geoff Willetts, UK

The parameters under which your programme is produced and the circumstances and rules under which the police work is a world apart. There is a mountain of difference between information and evidence and rightly so. I fell that your programme was blatantly and unfairly biased for the purposes of cheap journalistic platform. Panorama is a mainstay and influential programme and the producers clearly neglect their ethical and moral responsibility. The police and justice are important to the public and in this instance to the grieved Power family. This cheap shot, bias edited programme serves no sensible purpose other than another salvo of 'headline grabbing bobby bashing'. Panorama should be more responsible.
Tony Rees, Wales

I believe your report has identified serious issues. Continually the police abuse the law and general public whom they are paid to "protect and serve". It is the writers opinion that the police actively seek to "persecute and prosecute. I believe there is a real need for the police to be 'policed'.
Simon, Lancashire

I have just watched your programme - Fair Cops. I can vouch that 99% of local Swansea people believe that David Morris is innocent of the murder of Mandy Power and her family. Isn't this a high statistic of general opinion? The most worrying aspect of South Wales police force is that if they are able to convict innocent people of murder charges - how many innocent people are in prison for minor offences?
Lesley Jones, Wales

The failings of the police in South Wales is only a refection on the kind of people that are being allowed into the force. Only graduates with good self awareness skills should be selected. The cops of brawn power should be replaced with brain power. What action will be taken against those officers who have contributed towards the current perception of the police. The police federation should also grow up come into the 21st century
Sukh, England

I am extremely pleased to see the BBC taking investigation so seriously and I think that they should do this more often. Continue the investigative work, please. There are many many injustices.
Gerry Sweeney, UK

Unless the will is there from a higher authority to get to the bottom of the truth and see real justice be done, another innocent person awaits around the corner to be 'stitched up' for a murder they did not commit. The Chief Constable's response at the end of the programme was disgraceful.
Trevor Clarke, UK

Disgusted - why does it take Panorama to make public what most of us have known for a long time? Do something useful with the licence fee and take a civil action against the Chief Constable of South Wales Police.
Gary Kenny, UK

I am a serving Police Officer with 23 years service and have worked on many many murder enquiries. I can safely say that I have never experienced a situation on an enquiry that left so many unanswered questions as your programme "Fair Cop" disclosed tonight. Its cases like this that reflect badly on the vast majority of honest and hard working officers policing this country, and I only hope that the programme encourages a further investigation of the facts, preferably by an outside force.
Name witheld, South-east England

Just like the BBC documentary on racism the police will choose to blame the messenger rather than put their house in order. Officers found guilty (if anyone is charged) will have to be tried in England or Scotland - I wouldn't trust a court system where judges don't check paperwork thoroughly enough.
Ken, England

Well done. An excellent programme, highlighting what clearly appears to be the Police doing serious crime. Let's hope some heads roll. Shame the police didn't want to be interviewed. Thank goodness for the BBC. Sometimes I'm very happy to be paying my licence fee, now is one of them.
Matthew Shaw, England

A very disturbing programme on the failings of the South Wales Police in solving very serious crimes. The conviction of the wrong people for murder is a terrible injustice, but when the police have not investigated properly, this raises grave concerns from the public, and I suspect from the police themselves.

To restore public confidence in the police, any officer found guilty of wrong doing of any kind, must be severely punished. The record of South Wales Police should be fully investigated by an independent outside force with great urgency. This would restore public faith and trust within the service. Although I fear this will take time. A very good investigation by Panorama, a subject truly in the public interest, and in the interests of the police service in general.

Vital questions and actions during inquiries need satisfactory answers by all concerned.
Steve Fuller, England



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