In 2002, twice Booker-winning author Peter Carey travelled to Japan, accompanied by his twelve-year old son Charley, on a special kind of pilgrimage.
(Edited highlights of the panel's review taken from the teletext subtitles that are generated live for Newsnight Review.)
MARK LAWSON:
James Brown, he would
have called it Lost In Translation if
someone hadn't got there first. What
do you make of it?
JAMES BROWN:
I think the title is misleading. Because
he writes with such clarity and bite
that you're halfway through this
before you know what's going on.
You were talking earlier about it
being a travelogue. I found it more of
an educational guide. You learn a
tremendous amount about Japanese
history. And there's some brilliant
explanations about those things we've
seen on television for years about
Japan, why kids dress as punks or
why people dress as rockabillies. And
it's the obsession. It's an amazing
obsession with the fact that for years
they were told what they couldn't wear,
what they had to wear. And now they
have freedom of expression and they
follow it. And also the fire bombings.
I never knew any of that stuff. To me
it wasn't the comics
that were entertaining me, it was the
back story.
JULIE MYERSON:
I love it. I think it's a perfect book. But
like all the best travel books it's about far
more than travelling, at least it's about
travelling in a different direction and
not necessarily towards Japan. It isn't
just because of this I've got one of
these, a 12-year-old boy. And it made
me do something which is fantastic
when you read a book, it made me
recognise things about my 12-year-old
that I hadn't really noticed. It also
made me look at the culture that my
boy's into in a different way as well. It
has this wonderful openness, it is
about a father and son relationship,
he's never sentimental, and I'm not
sure how he does that because there
are some very cute bits of dialogue in
there and you completely go with it.
And there's this character, Takashi
whose sons met on the internet, they
don't know what class he is, what his
education is, whether he might be
gay, and he turns up working in Mr
Doughnut. Brilliant.
MARK KERMODE:
The stuff that worked for me is the
interesting stuff about movies. Within
that there are flaws. I lose patience
with people who say, as he does
Miyazaki is better than Disney, but
he's not, Miyazaki is not better than
Disney, they're two separate cultures.
Just because you start liking Japanese
anime doesn't mean you have to throw
Disney out. The other thing is, there's
a maxim halfway through where
someone says to him a little
knowledge is sometimes worse than
total ignorance. I had a feeling he's at
that point of his understanding of
manga that he's talking about that he's
at the very edge of what he knows
about them. If you know anything
about Asian cinema and manga, and I
don't know that much, you very
rapidly find out the point at which his
knowledge ceases. I agree with James
that the back story stuff is interesting,
but I think he's floating very
ephemerally on the surface of the
popular culture. I didn't think it is a
book about him and his son. I think it
wants to be a book about him and his
son. I think it's much more a book
about somebody being fascinated by
manga, Japanese cinema and culture,
and not quite knowing enough about
it to pull it off.
JULIE MYERSON:
It's about finding out about things you
don't know about. He never sets
himself up as an expert, and he's very
disarming about the things he doesn't
know.
MARK KERMODE:
I feel like if I'm
going to be led through the journey,
what I want is the Takashi character
to take me by the hand on the journey
rather than Peter Carey.