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Newsnight Thursday, 6 February, 2003, 18:45 GMT
'I can win support for war' - Blair
The weapons inspectors highlighted Iraq's "failures"
Tony Blair has said he believes that a second UN resolution might be enough to swing public opinion in favour of war with Iraq.

In an interview with the BBC's Newsnight programme, the prime minister insisted the course he was taking over Saddam Hussein's regime was right, although he conceded that it was not easy.

I think if there were a second UN resolution then I think people would be behind me

Tony Blair
Mr Blair was speaking within hours of talks with chief United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix and the head of the Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei.

They told him that Iraq must "drastically" change its behaviour in order to meet UN demands.

The meeting came as politicians and diplomats around the world consider the latest evidence put forward by the United States to support its claims that Iraq is defying demands to disarm.

Click here to watch Blair's interview point by point

But if the audience of members of the public Mr Blair faced for Thursday's Newsnight is indicative, it is clear that he still has an uphill struggle to convince the British people about the need for war.

"I think if there were a second UN resolution then I think people would be behind me," Mr Blair said under questioning from the audience.

"I think if there's not then there's a lot of persuading to do."

MP for Texas North?

Mr Blair was asked if he was prepared to go to war if it went against public opinion.

He said that if the UN inspectors said that Saddam would not co-operate and a majority of countries on the Security Council backed action as well as the British Parliament, that would "make a difference to people".

A jibe by one of the audience that the prime minister was the "member for Texas North" prompted Mr Blair to defend himself against accusations of being US President George W Bush's "poodle" - or US foreign minister as Nelson Mandela had put it.

"I have huge respect for Nelson Mandela but I don't feel that I am doing the wrong thing - it may not be the easy thing but I do believe I am doing the right thing."

On Wednesday Secretary of State Colin Powell presented tape recordings, satellite photographs and intelligence data showing Baghdad's "evasion and deception" in the face of UN weapons inspections.

But it has been rejected by Iraq as an attempt to sell the idea of war without any moral or legal justification.

Message

Leaving the talks with Mr Blair, Mr Blix said Iraq continued to co-operate on the "process" of the inspections, such as granting access.

But he said the Iraqis were still failing either to present forbidden items to be destroyed or show evidence they had been destroyed already.

"I hope at this later hour they will come to a positive response," he said.

UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw with Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi
Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi met Jack Straw on Thursday
He warned that without more co-operation, the inspectors would not be able to deliver the report they wanted at the Security Council on 14 February.

Mr ElBaradei, who says war is not inevitable, said their visit to Baghdad this weekend was crucial.

"The message coming from the Security Council is very clear: that Iraq is not co-operating fully, that they need to show drastic change in terms of co-operation," he said.

Maintaining pressure

Later, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw echoed the stance taken by Tony Blair at Thursday morning's cabinet meeting.

"The issue before Iraq now and before the security council is not one of more time for inspectors ... nor of more inspectors" said Mr Straw.

"It is about much, much more cooperation from the Iraqi regime."

In a further development, Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon announced another 100 RAF planes are to be sent to the Gulf region ready for action.

He told MPs 7,000 extra personnel are to be deployed, bringing the UK's overall contribution to 42,000.

Mr Blair and Mr Straw also held talks on Thursday with Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi.

Iran has been identified by President Bush as part of an "axis of evil" alongside Iraq and North Korea.

On Wednesday, Mr Straw gave Saddam Hussein an effective deadline of 14 February to show he will co-operate with UN demands to disarm.

Newsnight's interview with Tony Blair was broadcast on BBC Two and this website on Thursday, 6 February.


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