In a HARDtalk interview broadcast on 19th August, Stephen Sackur talks to Geert Wilders.
Leader of the Dutch Party for Freedom, Geert Wilders
He's a member of the Dutch parliament and is constantly surrounded by bodyguards due to his self-declared "jihad" against Islam.
He's described the faith as "retarded" and rejects the concept of a moderate Islam.
Yet his provocative 2008 film Fitna was called a "damp squib" and polls show his Party for Freedom only commands around six percent support in the Netherlands
Is Geert Wilders really winning the argument?
He talks to Stephen Sackur.
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