He's not the Scarlet Pimpernel - just a wanted war criminal. But as they seek him here and seek him there, the former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic continues to avoid arrest.
The trial of Yugoslavia's former president, Slobodan Milosevic, resumes at the Hague next week. But Karadzic and General Ratko Mladic, who've been charged with 16 counts of war crimes including the mass slaughter of more than seven thousand Muslim men in Srebrenica in 1995, remain free.
Newsnight asked the BBC's former war correspondent Martin Bell
to return to Bosnia to join in the hunt for Karadzic and assess the prospects for
Republika Srpska, the contested mini-state within a state. Plus we wanted to know why the new Bosnian Serb leader has called on Karadzic to kill himself.
MARTIN BELL:
In one of the most notorious corners of
Europe, only the sound of the fountain
breaks the silence. When the Serbs
overran the safe haven of Srebrenica on
July 12, 1995, this is where they rounded
up 7,500 Muslim men of military age,
marched them away and executed them
in cold blood in the days that followed.
The worst war crime in Europe since
1945. There's a book where visitors can
write their thoughts, a shared sense of
grief and guilt and loss. One says,
"Forgive us for waiting too long to act
and seeing the war in 30 second sound
bites on the evening news." Attempts
here to express the inexpressible. A
thousand victims of the massacre
identified by DNA are buried in the
cemetery, which was controversial when
it opened last November. The Serbs said
it was provocative. Now it's part of the
landscape. That's not the big change.
The big change is that the years of denial
are over and the Bosnian Serbs at the
highest level have accepted
responsibility for what happened in that
terrible time.
DRAGAN CAVIC:
(President, Republika Srpska)
TRANSLATION:
Here in Republika Srpska we set up a
commission to investigate Srebrenica.
When I got the report, I addressed the
citizens to tell them that massacre did
take place and a war crime was
perpetrated there. Thousands of men
were killed. All those who took part in
this horrible crime should know they
will not escape their punishment.
BELL:
The leaders of the Bosnian Serb mini
state at the time, Ratko Mladic and
Radovan Karadzic are still at large. Why
have the authorities failed? With so
many advantages, the control of terrain,
a network of spies, a $5 million reward
on offer. Everything's been tried and
nothing has worked. Karadzic may have
been an indifferent politician but he's a
most successful fugitive. The longer he
remains at large the more he becomes a
figure of mythology. The religious
festival in the new church in Karadzic
territory in south-eastern Bosnia. Friends
say he intends to be buried here. It's a
saint's day but in the margins of the
event trinkets and souvenirs of Mladic
and Karadzic are for sale. The Serbs live
their history like no other people on
earth, that includes the recent history.
The Serbs have a new cemetery too
where 2,125 of their front line fighters
lie buried with more to follow. From
start to finish of the war the Bosnian
Serb army suffered a sacrificial 30%
casualty rate. Our guide is the founder of
the cemetery and arrested last year as an
alleged key member of the conspiracy
protecting Dr Karadzic.
MILOVAN BJELICA:
TRANSLATION:
Radovan Karadzic is a Serb hero.
Among the Serbian people he has
become a legend. Nobody can erase that.
Radovan Karadzic was a great
democrat. He tried to avoid the war in
Bosnia.
BELL:
How are your wounds?
DRAZENKO DJUNANOVIC:
(Editor, Novo Oslobodjenje)
OK now.
BELL:
It was bad wasn't it?
DJUNANOVIC:
Yes but I almost forget everything about it.
BELL:
Drazenko Djunanovic is an old friend, a front line commander badly wounded in the war. He now edits the main Bosnian Serb newspaper. He and his paper reflect the new Serbian thinking about war crimes.
What do you think about what happened in Srebrenica?
DJUNANOVIC:
It was war crime, of course. It was war
crime. It was horrible what people done.
I'm not part of war crime in Srebrenica. I
don't want to be part of, because some
Serbs done something. Gentlemen find
them, put them in the court. If they are
guilty, put them in the prison. 100 years,
1,000 years if necessary.
BELL:
To join in the hunt for Karadzic, Mladic
is thought to be elsewhere, is to show the
frustrations of the NATO force. It will
be hard to find anywhere in Europe bet
provided with natural hiding places. For
most of the six years since his
disappearance it has been a blind search,
almost mission impossible. No lack of
trying in all weathers. Roads sealed, cars
searched, people questioned. Karadzic's
home repeatedly raided, nothing found,
except an angry Mrs Karadzic. Who says
she doesn't know where he is.
LJELJENA KARADZIC:
TRANSLATION:
I just don't know because it is better that
way. You see how the situation is here,
what pressures we are under.
BELL:
At the height of his power, Radovan
Karadzic attended high days and holy
days at the church. The priest beside him
in this picture is still presiding.
The congregations are tiny he says
because the people are afraid. The
priest's house was raided on the first of
April. He has S-FOR plastic handcuffs as a souvenir. Another priest father Jeremiah was badly injured. He was falsely reported, as having said it was the duty of priests to protect Radovan Karadzic. So what is their duty?
PRIEST:
Our only duty is to pray to God.
MAJOR GENERAL VIRGIL
PACKETT:
(Commander, S-FOR)
S-FOR is very serious. Any time we get
information, any time we get a lead,
we're going to pursue that lead. If you
associate yourself with that kind of
network, with that kind of suspicion,
you're probably going to be in harm's
way.
PADDY ASHDOWN:
It's changed fantastically...
BELL:
Paddy Ashdown, the high representative,
is the most powerful man in Bosnia.
Catching Radovan Karadzic isn't his job.
But the failure to catch him makes his
job more difficult.
PADDY ASHDOWN:
(High Representative)
I would say we have followed what I call
the poisoned fruit, the lucky break
policy. We are stood below the tree
waiting for the fruit to fall, waiting for
the lucky break of the intercepted
telephone call that never comes. I think
you have to have a multifaceted policy.
You have to shake the tree, cut off its
roots and attack its branches. That's what
we've done.
BELL:
Last month in towns across the Serbian
towns of Bosnia he fired 59 officials.
Zoran Zuza was one of them, accused of
being an obstructionist element, of
"failing to overcome a culture of denial,
deceit, criminality and impunity". His
view of Karadzic?
ZORAN ZUZA:
Maybe he's guilty for all those crimes
that Serbs are made in this war but he's,
according my opinion, as much guilty as
other leaders of political parties and
peoples here in Bosnia.
BELL:
Not more, not less?
ZUZA:
Not more, not less.
ASHDOWN:
I cannot allow the future of the citizens
of this country to live in peace to be held
to ransom by a few people who think
that preserving a war criminal's freedom
is more important than this country
getting peace. It's as simple of that. Zuza
was one of them.
BELL:
One of my Serbian friends calls you
"Emperor Paddy". Are you comfortable
with the amount of power you have?
ASHDOWN:
No and nobody would be. When I came
here I described this job as having a title
out of Gilbert & Sullivan and powers
that would make a liberal blush. My job is to get rid of my job.
BELL:
Since he disappeared in 1998 Radovan
Karadzic has been not only invisible but
completely silent, not a single word has
he said in public. We tried of course. We
rented a mobile phone. We put out the
nub in the right circles in the hope that
he or his people might get in touch. We
did a full page interview in the main
newspaper hinting we would very much
like to hear directly or indirectly from
him. Of course, we didn't. He is in
hiding not only from the international
criminal tribunal in The Hague, but also
from the media, as much his own
Bosnian Serb media as the world press.
DRAZENKO DJUKANOVIC:
It will be, I think, masterpiece,
professional masterpiece to make
interview with somebody like this.
Everybody on the world speak about
Radovan Karadzic. For journalists he's
top ten to speak with. People like him.
BELL:
Instead of being found, he's being lost or
marginalised as the political landscape
changes. This town was once a
diplomatic cross-roads, former
Presidents, generals and UN officials
beat a path to Karadzic's door. Now
there's nothing, the headquarters of a
hydro-electric company and a near
defunct hotel. It was on this terrace I sat
with Karadzic's foreign policy advisor. I
told him, "You're getting weaker and
your enemies stronger. You're going to
lose." He said, "We don't care. We really
don't care." They did get weaker, first
militarily and then politically. There is
the sense here of an end game being
played out. Banja Luka bustles. The
presidency is here, the parliament is
here.
When you said Radovan Karadzic would
give himself up or take care of himself, did you mean kill himself?
DRAGAN CAVIC:
(President, Republika Srpska)
TRANSLATION:
Precisely. If I were in Radovan
Karadzic's shoes I would result to one of
two solutions. I would either surrender
or kill myself. We can no longer live
with the wrath of the entire world
because of these two men. We Serbs
have the strength to face the dark sides
of our past for the benefit of a brighter
future.
BELL:
Then there's a military option. In four
months the NATO force hands over to a
European force. The battle honour that it
craves is the capture of Karadzic.
MAJOR GENERAL VIRGIL PACKETT:
(Commander, S-FOR)
I think we're going to get him. I mean
we're going to get him whether he likes
it or not. One thing that's been clear, in
my guidance right from the top, has been
to make sure that no matter what
happens here, as we begin to look at S-
FOR's mission evolution, that we make
the transition with the European Union
forces so there will be no break, there
will be no seam in the energy and the
effort and the transition of this mission
to go after indicted war criminals.
BELL:
Rumour consistently locates Radovan
Karadzic in the south-east of the country
near the border of Montenegro. A border
easily crossed on tracks both marked and
unmarked. The area is under populated.
Fewer pairs of eyes to watch and those
few tend not to see. An impromptu
meeting with the village elders. They
haven't seen him since 1990 they say.
But their sympathies are with him.
MIRKO VRANA:
TRANSLATION:
First of all the west wanted to drown the
Serbs. It tries to do so today too. They
will succeed if they continue. I wish him
all the best.
BELL:
It's worse than the Turkish times they
say. They're building a memorial to their
dead in three wars in which the Serbs
suffered terribly but the Serbs who live
their history are losing power to those
who are seeking to remake it. A country
where a world war began and a regional
war recently ended is at the point of
decision of whether to be Balkan or
European. Bosnia's future is in the hands
of its Serbs as in a sense, it always has
been.
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