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Wednesday, 16 January, 2002, 10:10 GMT
The Brit Awards: Your views
Gorillaz, the band who turned down their Mercury music prize nomination last year, have been nominated for six Brit awards.
Other musicians up for awards include, Robbie Williams, Kylie Minogue, Dido, Craig David, So Solid Crew, Travis and The Strokes.
One notable absence is U2, who won two awards last year including a lifetime achievement award. This year, Sting gets that honour.
So what do you think?
Do you agree with the Brit nominations - have the judges picked the best British talent?
Another banal and frankly incoherent list from an institution which makes the Grammy awards look cutting-edge. Anyone who can nominate Geri Halliwell as the best female artist of 2001 has no ears.
Here's hoping Aphex Twin wins- that would at least make thw whole tawdry farce a bit more entertaining.
Another predictable and stale selection for the Brits. The cats that make the nominations have little idea. At least the strokes get a nod but in a year of good music we could have seen a nomination or two for the Charlatans, New Order or Air in the international category. Still I'm sure Ian Brown will win best male.
I think the judges have picked the right people, notably, Sting receiving a Lifetime Achievement award is so cool. He deserves it.
I'm thrilled that Sting has been awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award. Next for his KNIGHTHOOD!
No I absolutely do not think the best British talent has been picked. I feel that Radiohead has been overlooked again. I mean come on they are the greatest musicians by far in Britain. I would love for them to someday get the credit they are rightfully due.
I'd like to see the Brit Awards become more like the Mercury Music Prize, which is all about the acutal music and the boundaries it breaks. The Brits is just a glossy commercial event that takes its cue from records sales and the over saturated 'pop idols' that just sell well. I mean Geri Haliwell! Robbie Williams trying to ape Sinatra! There are many more gifted musicians that are more deserving of this event.
I'm utterly disappointed U2 are not nominated for any award. They deserve it as much as Travis or Robbie did.
I feel that a change is coming to the music scene. Genres other than pop are now gaining more and more surport over pop.
Don't the organisers of the Brit Awards realise how stupid it looks that Craig David can be nominated two years in a row with the same album? Do this mean that, theoretically, he could WIN the award twice? Or if he had won last year, would he not allowed to be entered again? Whatever, such duplicate nominations doesn't say much for the British record Industry. And what about Atomic Kitten - Best New Act AGAIN?!!
What is the point in having a 15 month qualifying period? The Awards should reflect the music of the preceding year i.e. everything released between January and December. There are too many nominations for records that came out in 2000.
And is there really any POINT in Bob the Builder being nominated?
Jason Mitchell, Canada (Brit Student)
Any one else wonder what happened to U2 this year. Its not like they need the accolade but just seems strange.
No nomination for the Manic Street Preachers? There should be - Know Your Enemy was the best release in a generally poor year, as proven by Kylie Minogue's nominations.
Lets puncture these giant sized egos and completly ignore the lot of them , so that they can accept their important world changing award in front of a massive global TV audience of 3.Can we please get things in perspective.
I think once again the Brit Awards panel have turned the ceremony into a farce: nothing but a chance for record industry suits to back slap themselves. Last year Primal Scream, Terris and Destiny's Child were overlooked, this year Robbie and Kylie get four nominations each? It's a disgrace that these judges cant seem to look further than the Top 40 when deciding on the candidates! If Travis represent the most innovative music in Britain today then I'd eat my vinyl! I hope Radiohead get best band so Thom Yorke can show the whole thing up for what it is.
How on Earth have U2 not been nominated for any awards. During the past year they've been on a different planet to every other band. They've had the highest grossing tour in the world which has been praised by pretty-much everyone, their last album has sold over 10million copies and they've been nominated for 8 Grammys and have swept the board in most end-of-year awards, including the very prestigious Rolling Stone awards. It seems to me that the Brits are trying to drum-up some controversy in order to get publicity, as there is no other reason not to even nominate them.
What is it about Radiohead that is so consistantly "brilliant" to warrant year after year praise from certain areas.? Okay, they are alright but what do you really think of them when you are sober or not stoned???!!!
Muse should be nominated for best British group, best single for 'Plug in Baby' or 'Newborn' (although they would have no chance if commercial radio listeners are voting for it!!), best album for 'Origin of Symmetry' and best video for 'Plug in Baby'
Mark Smith, Japan
What I find most amusing is that Aphex Twin (Richard James) was nominated for the "best British male solo" category. If you know anything about his music, this is definitely an unusual choice given the conservative nature of most music award organizations.
What would be even more amusing is if James won - I don't think the Brits or any other music award would be looked at the same way again!
Gorillaz....Gorillaz...a name certainly not worthy of such a lofty set of nominations. No one can deny that the "creators" of Gorillaz have talent (albeit not much), but what about the other great British acts. Bands such as Travis, Radiohead, and esp. U2 cannot be placed below the Gorillaz! Speaking from an American perspective, you are not only denying some of the UK's best and most famous talent, but you're also mocking yourselves by making this decision. Thank you.
When I heard the UK Top 20 on the World Service, I didn't think "Hmm, music is great this year", but rather "they don't deserve awards for this rubbish". What happened to the great British music of the 1980s? Is the pathetic fare I heard in the chart really the best we can do? I blame the industry fior promoting lacklustre and unimiginative blandness, but we need some new artists who know how to sing and play instruments. Maybe then the British music scene can return to the heady days of Britpop, Beatlemania, and other peak years. In the words of a rather older song "You've either got, or you haven't got... style"!
As I am rather unfamiliar with the inner workings of the UK Music Awards, which I attribute to an unfortunate case of Americanitis, I don't know for certain if the Award includes a "Best Songwriter" award (or something comparable). Sting would be the obvious winner, as he has consistantly produced the highest calibre of narrative lyrics for almost twenty years. I applaude him on his Lifetime Achievement Award. It is a choice well made.
I think the Strokes should be high on the agenda for best newcomer, their talent excedes much of the other bands.
Jamiroquai for best band - why?
They have to be the dullest, most monotonous band in existence.
Bland MOR warblings over some cheesy sampled beats, sung by a man who still thinks wearing a tea-cosy is cutting edge.
Where are the White Stripes for best international group? Surely they should win. And Dido is up for best newcomer 2 and a half years after her album was first released
A very strange choice of nominees - exactly what we've come expect from the Brit Awards. Delightfully eccentric!
Chris Brown, England
I don't understand how U2 were left out. They are nominated for 8 Emmys and were voted best band by Rolling Stone mag.
Craig David sadly missed out last year, and truly deserves recognition this time around.
Sadly for the past year, there has been a lack of quality music. The big sellers have been the manufactured bands who just jump around on stage, with their sing along songs. Thankfully Dido managed to sell well, partly due to her wide ranging appeal, to young and old.
The only thing that prevented the year becoming completely souless was the talk of RadioHead's Kid A and Amnesiac albums. With it's very weird electronic effects and silent screams of emotion. Many people considered it a brave move, and...well...it certainly didn't turn out to be a foolish one. How many bands are brave enough to take a leap from the norm?
They are one of the most innovative bands to date. They certainly deserve an award for innovation. Though the same could be said about Gorillaz though they are largely a new group, though with people who have been in the music business for quite a while. They too have brought a much needed creativity boost to the British music scene, mixing funky beats with computer comic book art. Their music video's are some of the best I have seen. The creativity involved ought to be considered for the Turner prize.
Well, I have to say I'm suprised at you all. I think the charts are great. Robbie, Destiny's Child, Kylie, S-Club 7, Hear Say, they're all such great bands. Brilliant musicians who have obviously worked very hard at their music skills and honed their instrument playing abilities to express true feeling and emotion. Someone shoot me now!
Are the judges really trapped in the year 2000? Another sad nail in the coffin to Britain's dinosaur of an awards ceremony. I don't personally think genuine talent has a hope in hell of getting noticed by this meaningless, blinkered ceremony.
Jon Morgan, UK
Richard James (the Aphex Twin) up for a Brit award! Who would have thought it? The Blips and beeps maestro of sometimes deranged, sometimes beautiful, always original electronic music has consistently been pushing back modern musical boundaries for the last 15 years. I would love to see what would happen if he actually wins. As his fans know he has a very twisted sense of humour....
I know I am treading on thin ice here but what's all this with Craig David? I know my comments sound just jealous, but unfortunately I have no idea why he gets nominated for variuos awards. I know he made a big impression with his initial records but I would suggest he was no better than any other solo artist I mean look at Ronan Keating and Robbie Williams. They have been at the top of the UK music ladder for years and are only now really reaping the awards. And good luck to the Stereophonics, the album, the attitude and nationalism, keep it up boyos!
One thing to say: U2 are obviously too good to be nominated. It looks like the awards panel are just trying to give the others a chance!
Can somebody please tell Craig David he needs to write more than two tunes; can somebody please tell Robbie Williams he will never be within a million miles of Sinatra; and will somebody please tell Geri Halliwell to put some bl**dy clothes on! Obviously the Brits aren't going to do it.
A total farce (as usual), this event has never been about recognising the best of the talent in the UK music scene, it's always been purely a marketing scam for the major record companies.
Richard James is a pioneer who has led the way for electronic music and innovation that has infiltrated all realms of the media, and it's about time that he got the recognition he so badly deserves.
Surely U2 should be nominated for at least one Brit. They are undoubtedly the biggest British band, if not THE biggest band in the world. This year has been an amazing year for them and to be nominated for so many Grammys and not a single Brit shows the Brits nomination system in its true light.
How could you overlook Mick Jagger?!?! His new album is great stuff! I'm disappointed! Sting is boring!!
Pathetic is the word I would use to sum up the UK music industry at this moment, when a cartoon band can be nominated six times, it just underlines what a complete joke this is. Record companies now have complete control over the entire UK record industry as evidenced by the proliferation of designer boy and girl bands which also continue to dominate the charts. Still, it's exactly what the youth of today deserve. Totally mindless "entertainment" for a completely mindless generation. Enough to make anyone puke.
Isn't it about time they had a category called "Best Karaoke Dancing Troupe" since that's what the British music industry is turning into?
These events are getting sadder and sadder. The sooner the music industry releases its savage strangle hold the better. How many times do we have to see the likes of Sting, U2 and Elton John rolled out. It's got nothing to do with music and everything to do with profit and marketing.
Peter C, UK
U2 should be nominated for best albumn (All That You Can't Leave Behind), best band and best single!
I'm confused. How can Dido be a newcomer this year if she won something last year? And poor old U2 not getting voted for the Brits, I expect Bono and the guys had a sleepless night last night. Final thought: I wonder what the odds are on Craig David getting nothing again?
I think they have the words "best" and "most popular" mixed up in their awards... there are so many bands that are SO much better than the stuff that is just in the charts and if they could use these awards to give people like that some recognition and to give the general public an idea of the great stuff that's out there if you just go out and find it, then it would do a lot more good than just giving Robbie Williams another accolade.
While people like Spiritualized were busy defining a whole new genre, they were ignored, while acts that just pumped out the same old boring pop stuff (mostly now residing in the "where are they now" file) were winning accolades. It wasn't until after Spiritualized had a breakthrough with "Ladies and Gentlemen..." that they were even nominated.
The charts are there for the popularity part of it, can't we have awards for actual talent instead?
Isn't it telling - the public are trusted enough to vote for Best British newcomer, Best British video and Best Pop Act - the 3 categories least respected by the industry pundits. Then it's up to the usual company cronies voting for everything else.
Isn't it about time that the Brits opened up the voting group (perhaps to something like the Oscars academy) or just had everything voted for by the public? It really is all a bit patronising - in fact weren't the video and pop group categories invented purely to keep the public interested? And the nominations of Craig David and Radiohead for the same material two years in a row is just embarrassing.
Here's hoping Gorillaz, Radiohead, Craig David and Bob the Builder sweep the board - now they will be acceptance speeches I'll look forward to seeing.
On the whole the nominations have been good and let's hope giving the Gorillaz their deserved awards will restore some much needed credibility to the Brits.
Al Hall, England
I know these are pop awards and must appeal to a mostly teenage audience but where is Badly Drawn Boy? The Hour of the Bewilderbeast is a classic. It's hard to accept the committee's decision to nominate aging artists like Elton John (who certainly aren't to teenage taste) while overlooking brilliant new talent.
How did Geri Halliwell get nominated? I think PJ Harvey has to win, she is a brilliant artist, and deserves more recognition in this country!
The Brits are a farce and I wouldn't be surprised if the Gorillaz refused to take part (as they did with their Mercury Music prize nomination) because they (and the Strokes) are the only ones with real musical ability. Robbie Williams does not have much more talent than the average karaoke singer you'll find down the pub on a Friday night - his latest album just goes to show that when "comparing" himself to the likes of Frank Sinatra.
A scandal. Scraping the bottom of the barrel to have some competition for Robbie and Craig David. The best newcomer category is a joke. Starsailor or Turin Brakes should win but as Radio 1 listeners are voting here someone like Atomic Kitten will win (although I don't know how they can be classed as newcomers). Craig David is not dance in my book. And the biggest scandal is that U2 are not in the best international category. The Brits is the new Smash Hits Poll Winners Party. A joke.
I don't think that any real music fan really cares about the Brit awards. The whole thing is an exercise in marketing and attempting to boost flagging sales in the post-Xmas lull. The fact that acts as bland and unchallenging as Gorillaz, Dido and Craig David are nominated reflects how poor British music has been over the last couple of years. Doubtless the guilt of the judges not awarding Craig David any Brits last year means he will come away a big winner!
Ben Grist, England
It says a lot for the state of the British music industry when manufactured "groups" with no talent can receive Brit nominations (not mentioning Atomic Kitten in particular at all). Also, why have last years' albums been nominated AGAIN? Is there nothing worthwhile out there, or are the Brit people just nominiating what they think the public want to hear? There are talented songwriters out there who can play their own instruments and perform live on their own merit - please acknowledge this!
I find it quite ironic that the stars listed under the "Best Pop Act" are all manufactured acts with no apparent musical talent other than being able to hold a note and look good! Bring back the days when a pop band actually played instruments and wrote decent songs. I feel rather sad when considering the demise of British Pop!
The Brits. The best comedy show on TV.
I think the Brit Awards can quite safely be re-named the S***T Awards.
Whatever you wish to call them, the word "music" should certainly not be used in association with this event.
It's not about the music, but about the marketing and image. It is equivalent to an empty room winning a "top" art award, or McDonalds winning an award for best, most wholesome and healthiest food.
In response to Mark Trueman above, I'm sure U2 would be keen to point out that they are certainly not the biggest British band in the world, as they are not British.
Everyone always professes surprise for the Brit nominations, seemingly forgetting that they complained about exactly the same things the previous year - mainly "My favourite band wasn't nominated". The Brits, like every awards ceremony, walks a line between critical and commercial success. Hence the inclusion of critically adored artists such as Aphex Twin and The Strokes to keep the "real" music fans happy alongside the more mainstream and bigger-selling acts such as Dido. Having said that I'm surprised U2 were not nominated if their album falls into the catchment period, as they are popular with both critics and record buyers, although I can't stand them. I thought the Best International Album category had been invented to give more awards to bands like U2.
The most intriguing aspect is the fact that EMI acts have significantly more nominations than the other labels, where the noms are usually shared out quite fairly. I suspect the actual wins will be more evenly distributed. Tips: Dido for Best British Female, Kylie for International Female, Basement Jaxx for British Dance Act (unless Gorillaz don't win Best Band, in which case they will probably win a Dance consolation). British Newcomer might surprise a few people if the indie fans can unite behind one indie candidate in the voting, someone like Starsailor could pip Blue.
How U2 were not even nominated is a crime against music. I've been lucky enough to have seen them in concert three times and each time has been better than before. How can groups such as Hear Say, Steps, Westlife etc. ever be referred to as musicians?
They are just puppets of greedy record companies trying to make a fast buck, whilst these impressionable performers will disappear in Blighty, never to be seen again, where as groups such as U2, artists such as Madonna, Prodigy have been around forever, playing music that some people may or may not like, but also evolvin their particular genre in music to new levels.
It's a sad state of affairs if Bob the Builder can get to number one, and if George Harrison reaches number one next week, two deceased artists in consecutive weeks occupying the top spot will surely show the state of the present music scene.
The Brits are a farce. I cannot believe the Stereophonics have received ONE nomination. They are a true musical band and like countless other 'alternative' bands, have been overlooked. Is the Brits about the record industry's or the the general public's taste in music? Some of the manufactured pop is catchy but let's get back to perspective and to the real musicians who worked their butts off and deserve recognition.
It's good to see that The Strokes have been noticed in this year's nominations, they deserve it.
That's how the Brits come across to anyone with more than two brain cells. Whoever sells wins. What about the talent?
P J Harvey may have been nominated, but I'll be surprised if she wins ... even though she righlty deserves the award.
What about Zero-7's debut long player (outstanding). The Charlatans (career best). U2, Travis, Turin Brakes, Royksopp. The list of missing artists goes on and on and on.
It's time those pen pushers behind the Brits woke up and took notice. You're making this country and the whole industry a laughing stock.
No nomination for The White Stripes? Crazy! What about The Gents on grannysmithsdotcom?
Nice to see Nelly Furtado nominated for Best International Female Artist and Best International Newcomer, but where is the nomination for her SUPERB album "Whoa Nelly!" ?
Exuberant, positive eclectic and funny, Nel is the future of Rock'n'Roll!!
And she's cute too.
I saw more talent in the band playing my local last Saturday night than I have in a whole year's worth of commercial music. It seems these days that to get a record contract, you must forefit all your talent and good taste. Long live Gnutella, where I can download some real music. It's cheaper, too.
Gavin Keen, UK
I shall not be giving the Brits a second thought. The charts are so full of talentless indivduals these days, it has turned into a glorified Karaoke. I'm afraid the real talent gets smothered and rarely receives the exposure it deserves. Shame.
Having read the above all I can say is moan moan moan! Music is music whatever form it takes and it certainly does not take a worthless awards ceremony to make Joe Public realise what is a great band or singer. How about The Who as best newcomer?
I am extremely angered, due to the amount of coverage made of the Brit Awards. I feel they are over-advertised and the artists who are included are "cheap" artists - they never produce music that people want to hear.
Isn't it about time the music-buying public had a bit more of a say in the Brits? Every year we only get to vote for one or two awards, which always go to the most popular teeny boy band of the moment (A1 last year for example) because the votes are conducted by popular radio stations. What we need is a selection of ordinary members of the public from all age ranges to represent the views of real music fans.
However, I'm pleased to see that there's a varied range of artists in this years nominations. The Brits used to be too snobbish towards popular acts who weren't considered 'serious' enough. Can't understand why Geri Halliwell gets a mention though. If she can get nominated anyone can.
The Edge From Pizza Hut, Cloud Cuckoo Land
The Aphex Twin....At the Brits......How refreshing! Perhaps there is still hope for the music buying public after all.
The Strokes will have a big night and that's great, at least you Brits recognize them!
The Brits are now on a par with the Smash Hits Poll Winners Party. If Kylie, Robbie, Geri, Dido or 'So Solid Crew' win anything, I'm leaving the country and taking my Zero 7, Turin Brakes and Elbow CDs with me.
King monkey for best male!!! Ian Brown definitely deserves the best male award due to him leaving the best band ever and still have a succesful solo career! Plus he is brilliant live! Nuff said!!
Okay, so the Brits are our musical equivalent of the USA's Oscars (i.e. voted for by the Men In Suits) but really, at least the Academy can tell a good movie from a positively dire one. Oh yeah, and no-one gets two stabs at the same Oscar in consecutive years.
Sarah McNiece, England
I would love to know how Atomic Kitten have been nominated in the catergory of best newcomer, when their first single hit the charts in December 1999!
Even their album came out in 2000 so how can they be "newcomers" to 2001?
I think that Stereophonics should swipe at least 10 awards.
Do the organisers of the Brit awards have ANY idea what dance music is?
Craig David and Gorillaz as Dance acts? What's going on?
The Brits is a cynical self-serving fake awards system run by the big four record labels to achieve massive free publicity for their own acts and therefore increase sales of their predictable and extremely unadventurous products. Oops, I mean "acts".
The Mercury award has more genuine credibility and often awards genuine new talent.
Rob Sheppard, UK
Much like everyone else I am disappointed that bands such as Muse, White Stripes and Powder Finger weren't nominated but this has as much to do with personal taste as Marketing and Sales. Unfortunately not everyone can be nominated. One thing's for sure, I am quite chuffed U2 haven't been nominated!
If one more person says; "I can't believe U2 weren't nominated" I think I'll puke. They are a great band, don't get me wrong but come on, they have been nominated for awards at every music bash for the last five years. They're day, along with the likes of Sting and Elton, has been and gone and its time to start looking for and awarding new talent, and by that I mean real bands that play real instruments and write their own songs and not miming catalogue models in matching outfits with matching dance routines.
For you people who are so surprised U2 got no awards, did you listen to All The Dull Material We Should Have Left Behind? Talk about weak, and a departure from a groove that was nice indeed. Yawn, their toast if this last release is any indication.
The British public deserve everything they get with these nominations. If they're fully prepared to listen to this rubbish (songs and 'artists' that lack any credibility or meaning), then they deserve to put talentless mannequins on a pedestal. I'm with Wayne (Netherlands)...you lot listen to this rubbish and leave the good stuff for a select few of us that have got an ounce of taste.
Steve Harrison, UK
I think it's sad now that music is more business driven than anything else. The nominations reflect sales, and just act as further publicity for those already overexposed. I'm waiting for next year's nominations for record executive of the year, A&R man of the year - are they any less important in 'pop' these days than the musicians?
The judges have done well, but the So Solid Crew? All they seem to do is shout to music, and putting them up for an award is a big mistake. At least other artists have the talent to sing.
It's a shame that what should be a chance for Britain to show off its most innovative, exciting and talented musicians has become so derided. It should be mentioned, not that I'm a fan, that Craig David does write his own lyrics, which while they may be trite and naive, at least aren't actually written by 80s has beens (Atomic Kitten) or Scandinavian pop factories (A1 etc). I'm not too sure about whether it exists or not, but there should be a best lyricist category as this seems to get overlooked.
Also I'd like to see more of the experimental, cross over types of music represented: brit asian, soca, world etc. The discrimination that has plagued the music biz here for years, and lead to the setting up of rival awards such as MOBO, should be got rid of once and for all. It'd be nice to see all British talent represented, not just the acceptable face of pop.
The Brits have always been about POP and mainstream acts. Other awards ceremonies rightfully get more respect, such as the Mercury Prize, as they provoke thought and introduce new listeners to obscure and often more interesting acts. The Brits is simply a chance for Music Industry bosses to give themselves a slap on the back.
Kyle, St Helens
I can't seem to find Big Country on any awards list these days. Considering the premature death of Stuart Adamson, perhaps they should be nominated for something at the Brits. After all Britain contains both England AND Scotland.
That Radiohead and Craig David are being nominated for the same albums as last year illustrates how much of a farce both the Brit Awards and British music as a whole have become. We are clearly now reaping the rewards of investment in formulaic manufactured bands at the expense of originality and true musical talent.
Let's face it, the Brits aren't about good music, they're about music as a commodity - it's a bit like giving a Good Food award to Heinz Baked Beans on the basis that they're one of the biggest-selling product lines in supermarkets. For Baked Beans read Atomic Kitten, Westlife or any of the other musically inert, lifeless clones who dominate the chart. Give the award to Bob the Builder, I say!
Awards ceremonies merely mirror the current charts and record-buying public: devoid of inspiration, imagination, talent and soul. Publicising the over-publicised egomaniacs with delusions of importance and their self-indulgent, hugely boring projects. Lining the pockets of record companies already determined to fleece the kids and stop the proliferation of new non-manufactured talent.
Once again we see frankly perplexing nominations from a bland and predictable awards. Who in their right mind would nominate Kylie for anything? One answer, her record label that's who. I shan't watch it again this year, I consider my self to be above the status of 'lowest common denominator'. When will the industry realise that there is more money to be made by being original and groundbreaking, than repetitive and focused on a small section of the population. I am surprised Steps aren't up for everything including lifetime achievement!
Seeing as the Brit Awards now have the same credibility as the Smash Hit awards, let's start awarding real talent in a different ceremony.
Surely Muse should receive credit for their recent album - for a 3-piece band the sound is unbelievable - Radiohead watch out!
Pleased about Sting - can you believe the first Police single came out 25 years ago?!? And he still is knocking out the hits and looking cool with it. Disappointed with the lack of new talent - it must be difficult nominating people and bands for a Brit when most of them are either manufactured or one-hit-wonders!
I think it's been a much better year in terms of nominations - it is good to see people like PJ Harvey, Ryan Adams and Radiohead nominated as the Brit Awards doesn't usually cater for such diversity. However, some of the choices like Radiohead's Kid A as best album (it was released over a year and a half ago!) and Dido as best newcomer seems very silly. And the Manics should have got a mention too.
Any reason why U2 (an Irish band) should be nominated in the BRITS for anything other than Best International Group?
Yes, excellent to see The Strokes being nominated. But come on, Brit Awards judges, how about nominating The Ramones, The New York Dolls and Talking Heads while you're at it.
You people can chelp on all you like about people not playing their own instruments or writing their own songs blah blah blah. Music is about entertainment and the likes of Kylie and Robbie etc. deserve some recognition for the fact they obviously entertain people and people enjoy their music as proven by record sales. And for anyone who has claimed the people who like this music are 'mindless' and made any other derogatory comments I'd like to say, who do you think you are? People are entitled to listen to and enjoy whatever they like without being judged by the likes of blinkered self-righteous people like you. I like pop music, I also like a varied range of relatively more obscure bands. And whilst I will agree there are some anomalies in the Brit nominations, at the end of the day, does it really matter that much?
U2 are NOT british, and the fact that they get nominated for Brit awards every year shows the true lack of British talent out there. The fact that there have been so many comments on their failure to receive a nomination this year doesn't show that their 'time has gone' (last year was their most successful since 1987) or that their music has become less relevant (ATYCLB sold 10,000,000 copies and is still in the charts). It simply shows that the Brit awards are spiteful and introverted, as is shown by the fact that U2 swept the Grammy awards this year and last year, was named best band by Rolling Stone and had the most successful tour of the year (for the fifth time).
They have also been selected to play at the Superbowl. I can't see Travis or The Strokes getting those kind of accolades. Their day has not gone. Their continued success shows that they are bigger than any award or any opinion. Mark my words: most winners of Brit awards will not still be making music in ten years, and most of their 'fans' will grow up and realise their music sucks. U2, on the other hand will be releasing more new music, and having more critical and commercial acclaim. If you thinkIi'm wrong, I made the same prediction ten years ago.
Lee Carter, UK
Craig David - like what has he released this past 12 months?
It was a crime that he wasn't recognised in last year's awards, but he hasn't achieved anything here this year.
Very predictable, very safe, same old names.This industry has become stale just as it was before the punk era.
The Strokes are the best newcomers by miles.
I'm not bothered about the lack of Welsh acts nominated in the Brit awards this year. In my view the Manics have done nothing special nor has any other Welsh band other than the Phonics.
And isn't it funny that when EMI are in big BIG TROUBLE!! that the commercial pat on the back Brit awards should give their artists the lions share of the nominations? Hmm, I wonder...
The usual deal from the Brits! No offence against the Gorillaz but they always single out one group and give all the awards to them. At least some categories are now voted for by the public. But I will be happy anyway as long as Geri Halliwell doesn't win best female artist - PLLEEEEASE!!
Johnny Morrissey, England
Geri Halliwell?? You must be having a laugh!!!
I think that the Brit Awards are totally biased with British artists only. Why are Atomic Kitten and Dido nominated in the newcomer categories when they are already more than two years old? I remember Westlife getting nominated for international newcomer only last year when they were already two years old! Just because they are not from UK, that does not mean that they are not nominated in the international group..Blue is only less than a year old and they are nominated in two categories? Please live up to the standards of being the most prestigous awards in the UK!
These days I have been listening to Ryan Adams, Mull Historical Society, and U2 - as well as dusting off my old Big Country and Skids stuff... so I am not surprised that they are either not nominated, or doubt that they will win...
But just how do they decide if an artist is nominated, surely if it was popularity, then U2 are in, and if it was record sales, U2 would be in... it just seems to be controversial to raise publicity...
Perhaps they need to introduce some new categories... how about these...
Track Most downloaded off the Internet...
www site with the most hits...
What about Depeche Mode for best UK band? Martin Gore for best songwriter. Twenty years later and they're still producing gorgeous music and moving in new directions with Exciter: a mellow fusion of electronics, country and blues.This is one UK band which is consistently overlooked.
It also restricts the listening public's exposure to all sorts of music and possibly budding musician's creativity.
Craig David's album should not have been allowed to have been nominated two years running. Even though the rule is an album has to be released between August 7 2000 and November 19 2001, there have been plenty of solid, well selling albums released by UK artists in this period that have never been nominated. Artists such as Sophie Ellis Bextor, Russell Watson, Jamiroquai. Additionally Dido and Atomic Kitten as newcomers two years in a row and Atomic Kitten released their first single in 1999! If the voting panel did not feel that there was any potential talent that warranted being voted as newcomers then do not include old ones.
Ben H, UK
Aphex Twin tremendous. Everything else teeny pap.
Why, oh why, oh why does the music business (particularly in Britain) continue to promote dismal acts such as Dido, Atomic Kitten, Hear'say etc. when there is a wealth of talent out there, and then continue to pat themselves on the back!
I can tell you why - because one man and his computer are a damned sight cheaper to pay than a complete band of musicians, too much credence is given to the opinions of the "music press" too, fair enough they might have an A-level in English, but what has that to do with music? The vast majority of them have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. The same is true for the majority of radio DJs too, just listen to the likes of Zoe Ball or Sarah HB, I'm sure they are very nice and intelligent folk, but when it comes to music they have no idea!
The music industry is reluctant to invest in new TALENT because it takes time and money to develop and the record companies and retailers want a large and fast return on their "investment".
Call me cynical but that is the reason behind the farce we call "the brits" and how much is made from the "brits" compilation CD every year? hhhhmmmmnnn!
Not too bad, overall. Congrats to Sting, he REALLY deserves that. Good luck to Craig David and Travis. Dido has it in the bag - she's the best!
Kylie Minogue? That's so yesterday...Dido? Gorillaz? Who/what are they? Enlighten us yanks, please. We're so full o' pretzels we can't see the British Isles for the seas.
Where in the world is U2? Arguably one of the best rock bands in the world has a spectacular year and is then ignored? The Brits are a joke.
A C Godliman, England
At last people are beginning to notice the absurdities of Brit (not to mention most other) award ceremonies but unfortunately this is hardly news. Much as I love her to bits, I used to laugh in the eighties when I'd see Kate Bush nominated for best British female artist when she'd not released an album for three years, nor toured in six.
This only adds to the belief that the awards are just a tax-dodging back slap for the chosen "beautiful people" and one highly cost effective advert for the music companies
Why has Dido been voted for best newcomer when she was nominated for 'Best Female artist' last year? The awards make no sense, No U2, No Madonna, No Destiny's Child. This proves yet again it's who sucks up to the record industry.
Stop blaming the Brits! I may be wrong but I was under the impression that the public votes for these...so let's blame ourselves -- WE are the ones who make people like Robbie and Geri rich. Now..as for U2 - if they had any Irish pride they would have rejected last year's Brit awards by saying "we aren't British, we're Irish - get your countries straight." But they didn't -they hog up anything they can find.
One thing about the Brits, though: you can't criticise the American Grammy Awards too loudly, not after these past several years.
56 million album sales worldwide and Depeche Mode still get no recognition in their home country. I Feel Loved, a single that Radio One deemed too 'irrelevant' to add to the playlists has been nominated for two Grammy awards and yet The Brits as remain as pedestrian as ever.
The Stokes? Who will be listening to them in two years time? They are no different to Hear'say in that their music provides nothing that you haven't already heard before.
What are So Solid doing up there? They did nothing good yet, no-one even knows how many there is of them and we can't understand a thing they say except I got 21 seconds to go.
We've got all the right nominees this year, there's some great acts there this year. It's a shame that Westlife haven't been nominated for more but I hope all Westlife fans are going to help them win best pop act this year. I also think that Blue deserve to win best newcomer, they've certainly had a great year.
What do you expect? The judges still think pony tails for men are cool. At least Annie Lennox and Eddie Reader are no longer nominated every year! I think the Brits should amalgamate with the Smash Hits Poll Winners Party
PS U2 are not British.
PPS I don't want Craig David to be awarded for thinking he's IT.
No I don't think that these are good choices at all, I think Westlife should be in for more and I also think that Gorillaz shouldn't be, they are terrible.Call that music? Now it think it should get sorted. It's discraceful!
The judges are right on. Gorillaz has a unique sound that has not yet been done over a million times like many other groups on the market. I also agree with the nominations for Kylie Minogue, as she has rediscovered success with happy, dance-able hit, "Can't Get You Out of my Head," which looks like it may even make the charts in the US.
Once again the BRITS are the laughing stock again. Where are Turin Brakes and Elbow in the Best Album category? One guarantee is that Robbie Williams will win Best Video considering it's being voted for by the readers of Smash Hits.
I'm proud to be British and everything British, however that is, until it comes to our 'music industry'. I am married to an Australian and constantly get a ribbing at our teeny bopper 'Top forty' chart and now the Brit awards. The sad thing is that I agree with her. I thought the Brit awards were supposed to represent the entire British Isles taste in music and give a fair reflection of that in the nominations. However, once again any monkey who looks pretty, can hold a microphone and sing a song is up for an award (I wont even bother to list all those that fit into the above categories).
I detest the tripe that is played on our radios these days and cannot wait to leave these fair shores. Hopefully then I won't have to hear it on a radio or read about so called 'talented' manufactured bands in national newspapers or even see them advertised and glorified on our televisions.
Please, music industry bosses, give our nation its musical respect back. From the amount of people who have written in complaining about these awards it shows that there is something inherently wrong.
And if Geri Halliwell, Bob the Builder, Westlife or Atomic Kitten win anything I will be on the next plane out of here.
The Brits is just a lesser version of the Smash Hits Poll for old people with no imagination - where are the Super Furry Animals?
You are all completely bonkers! U2 have contributed so much to the world through their music, an amazing tour and their work with third world debt. They were healing for people grieving over September 11 . . . This only proves to me that there are nasty control freaks who rig award shows!!!!! U2 deserved to be in the nominations at least. They work very hard and it's not them that demand the recognition, it's the fans who demand it. They don't need a trophy or a certificate. They already have their reward. At each show every fan felt arms of love all around them and we all reached back and returned the love. It's about one spirit, it's about binding together. I guess you would have had to have been there!!! Which obviously you weren't.
It's not that they have to win, they just should have been in the nominations.
Well that was generally predictable - although who'd have thought that Aphex Twin would've got an award. U2 were surprisingly ignored, as was Jennifer Lopez. Congratulations to Gorillaz - they've been probably the most innovative group of the past year. Dido deserves best British Newcomer - the question had to be asked how she got nominated for "Best British Female" in an awards period when she had not yet had any chart success - singles or albums.
Best Album is a joke - where was "J.E.E.P."? How did "Born To Do It" get back into the category, and how come they still chose "Kid A" over "Amnesiac" - bizarre! Best newcomer - should Atomic Kitten be back in - well, I'll say yes! They've finally broken out into being VERY successful - rather than just pop also rans. Shame no newcomer nominations for so many great acts ("Bob the Builder"? "Tweenies"? "DJ Pied Piper and the Masters of Ceremonies"? "Hear'say"?!?!?!?!?) and on a more serious note, "My Vitriol" and "King Adora" were both bigger this last year than either Turin Brakes or Elbow. Surely they could've kept the old format of 20 - although it would be difficult to choose the last five, with Gorillaz, Mis-teeq, So Solid Crew, Starsailor, Dido, Blue, Atomic Kitten/Hearsay all possible winners.
In general, however, a good set of awards - please make Robbie does not win more than one award (he should win one just so we can hear an awards speech from him!)
I'm sure the other music is fine, but my votes are for Robbie Williams all the way! Not only is he willing to take major risks in all directions - he keeps it fun for us at the same time! In all categories - RW is number 1. Come conquer the USA!
The nomination of Bob the Builder for Best British song must be an ironic sideswipe at the amount of manufactured pap....er...sorry pop that is dominating the charts at the moment...right?!?!
Also what has happened to the Best British and International Rock Act category - and where are the nominations for acts such as Muse, Tool, Alkaline Trio, Ash, Weezer, Feeder, Rammstein, Greenday, System of a Down etc?
Three of the five albums nominated for best album are from 2000, in fact two of them are from 1999, how can these awards be taken seriously when they can't even find five albums from last year?
I am very glad that Aphex Twin has been nominated for best British male. Compared to much 'popular' music today his tracks are works of genius, and I'm glad that his talent has been recognised.
I did enjoy the comment that the extended period for nominations was because Gabrielle's "Rise" "was a sleeper". Umm, aren't the Brit Awards supposed to be about quality not sales? If the album was good it should have been nominated.
Thank god for the Mercurys.
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