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Wednesday, January 21, 1998 Published at 17:03 GMT Talking Point Do we care too much about animals? Your reaction <% ballot="49470" ' Check nothing is broken broken = 0 if ballot = "" then broken = 1 end if set vt = Server.Createobject("mps.Vote") openresult = vt.Open("Vote", "sa", "") ' Created object? if IsObject(vt) = TRUE then ' Opened db? if openresult = True AND broken = 0 then ballotresult = vt.SetBallotName(ballot) ' read the vote votetotal=(vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "yes")+vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "no")) if votetotal <> 0 then ' there are votes in the database numberyes = vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "yes") numberno = vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "no") percentyes = Int((numberyes/votetotal)*100) percentno = 100 - percentyes ' fix graph so funny graph heights dont appear 'if percentyes = 0 then ' percentyes = 1 'end if 'if percentno = 0 then ' percentno = 1 'end if else ' summut went wrong frig it numberyes = 0 numberno = 0 percentyes = 50 percentno = 50 end if end if end if %> Votes so far:
No, I don't believe we care too much about animals. People always seem to put themselves on a platform above animals, probably in the belief that they are of a higher intellect etc. Yet, however many experiments we do concerning animal behaviour we can never truly understand how they think and perceive life.
I am sure one could find any number of needy children in Britain
who could benefit from the fifteen thousand pounds. Turn those pigs into
footballs!
Of course we care too much about animals. Look at the amount of dog mess in our towns caused by the filthy owners of the poor things.
Ban cats and dogs as pets unless it can be proved they serve a purpose.
I'm not so sure that saving a couple of pigs from the butcher is worthwhile, it would be better to spend the time (and money) making sure that the animals that are slaugthered suffer as little as possible...
Caring about animals is in our own best interests, up to a point. However,
like everything in life, you have to take a balanced view, and the interests of
humans should always take precedence over the interests of animals.
We don't care more for animals than humans. We pay a significant amount in
taxes for human welfare, via the NHS, Social Security, and overseas aid. This
process is very much out of the individuals hands but I certainly feel as if
I'm contributing. We even fund modern factory farming out of our taxes.
I believe that Animals have no rights at all so I hate the term ANIMAL
RIGHTS. It's meaningless. Thinking, breathing intelligent human beings are the masters of the world, and yes we mess up a lot but we have the right to do with animals whatever we like.
We Don't care enough about animals, could you imagine spending your whole life enclosed within a small area with no space to turn around ?
The trouble is not so much that we care about animals, but that we are overly
attracted to the cute ones and very squeamish when it comes to meat. That is
probably why there is a food crisis in the meat industry as food is killed
miles away from where it is consumed (before being transported and stored),
and packaged in a sterile manner so as not to offend the sensitive (which probably hides the defects).
We seem to care when it suits people who wish to appear caring. For the vast
majority of the time 90% of the British population don't give two hoots - they
are happy to eat them so why should they care at all? It's time we stopped
being hypocrites who just mask the caring vacuum that exists most of the time.
It is now getting ridiculous, of course we care too much about animals, we
seem to forget that it is totally natural to eat meat and that these two pigs had
been bred for the table, what all these animal lovers forget is that if we did
not eat pork there would be no pigs in England except a couple in a zoo
somewhere.
The press went a bit over the top on this story, but that's because they knew
it would be popular, because most people like a bit of light relief - after
all, most people do not usually talk about pigs all day - it makes a change.
I see no contradiction in the fact that most of us were fascinated by the
story of the "Tamworth Two" whilst at the same time we love to eat sausages. Pigs are are highly intelligent, cute animals that just happen to taste great!
The pet food industry consumes more money in the usa than that of some third
world countries and for what? Show dogs, horses bred to race, and a total
over abundance of cats?
Only people kill for fun. Animals kill only out of need. Then it seems that
animals are better than people !
How is it possible to care too much about any living being? Is it possible to
set a limit on the value of a life?
It's probably fair to say we sometimes care too much for individual animals --
while generally ignoring (or worse exterminating) animals on the whole.
Animals are in the same position as children: We go on-and-on about our deep concern for their well-being and then turn the other way while they're being abused.
Animals? The people who worry about animal issues of these sorts need to visit a part of the world where PEOPLE live in lesser conditions than many western pets and food sources.
How can we say we that we care about animals too much when we have many species on the brink of extinction? And what about factory farms where animals are raised without any contact with nature and with no thought to their future except how to grow them faster and cheaper?
I accept that animals need proper and
kind care, but people are often forgotten.
Why don't the media focus more on the
homeless and unemployed. Why? Because people
aren't quite as cuddly as these pigs.
Animal welfare should be on the same level
as people's, not at a higher level.
I think people who have been brought up in the city have unrealistic attitudes
towards animal welfare. There is a need for people to accept the killing of
animals to produce food is simply a fact of life. Farmers have always
maintained that it is in their interests to maintain their animals' welfare.
The fact is, the media see animal welfare, food safety, etc, as hot
issues these days and this has led to the public becoming obsessed with such
matters.
How can we care too much for a creature that when treated with kindness and respec in turn gives us an unlimited amount of devotion? And even when we lash out with anger and cruelty, forgives us so unfailingly? Would we were so kind to ourselves.
WE need to treat both ourselves and animals
kinder.This is a nice story, and we need
more nice stories when the world seems to have
nothing but sad ones.
One cannot care too much for any form of animal life which is being
mistreated. But is all the media fuss really reflective of the
man-in-the-street's attitude? How many
"animal lovers" reflect on where the bacon on the breakfast plate came from?
Some people devote their lives to conserving human lives and some devote their
lives to animals. We need more people to care for animals as the human race
has created an environment where the humans are ruling the animal kingdom. As
responsible rulers, we are obliged to look out for them as they cannot
protect themselves. Everything is connected. If we continue to devalue any
life that exists on our planet, we will be next on the extinction list.
Over 95% of people think it is just fine to eat animals. And yet, the PETA
(People for Ethical Treatment of Animals) seem to get "equal time" under some misguided notion of media fairness. Humans are the superior beings, and we should act accordingly. Be kind, be fair to animals, but we should be in charge.
I don't think we care too much for animals, but we need to pay more attention
to people too. There are many people in need, and I would like to see them get the attention and help that they need as well.
The noblest human capacity is empathy and compassion for others, whether human or animal. To ignore the pain and suffering of animals because they are "only" animals lowers us to the level of the beast. In the end, it is not about the animals but about what kind of people we are and whether we see the world as a jungle where the strong kill and eat the weak or whether we believe in extending protection to those who cannot protect themselves against cruelty.
People go all out to rescue a few individual animals and then slaughter
millions that have been fed antibiotics to counteract the ravages of the
slovenly living conditions forced upon them. Ironically, people are animals,
too. Until we care for all animals, under all circumstances, we cannot
possibly be guilty of caring too much.
Yes we do care too much about animals! Why? Well it's not that we care too much about animals but that we care too much about animals compared to humans. Pick on a weak kid in school and you might gain popularity, but try kicking a lame dog and I assure you popularity will be a far away dream. Rightfully so, but shouldn't we expect the same reaction for the former situation?
A difficult one - pets are trusting and excellent companions for young and
old. I love meat, prefer not to think about abattoirs, but would we have
cattle, sheep, pigs, etc if we didn't eat them, or would they too be
endangered species. The balance is not to over anthropomorpholise - great word!!
It's all relative, I suppose. Some people take the care of animals to an
extreme whereby they invest thousands of dollars in jewelry and even clothes for their animals. I think this is an insult to animals and humans. On the
other hand, there are those people who are deliberately cruel and heartless to
animals. Ultimately, we need to reach a balance in the care of animals because not enough of us realise the very important comfort and companionship value of animals.
Like the woman in Istanbul who cares for over 600 cats, many, including
myself, would do likewise if we had the resources. Animals, like children, are
vulnerable. The weak, feeble, poor, are likewise. We increase ourselves when we give to others, and diminish ourselves when selfish, cruel, or even evil. It is an age old question, is it not?
Too many animals are treated better than humans, if you look at all the wars
and meaningless slaughters of PEOPLE in the world today and then look at the top stories on the BBC News, Pigs rank higher than people! They may be smart but they are still livestock and should be treated accordingly!
I find it laughable how everyone makes such a fuss about this. What about all
the other pigs that didn't make it ? Haven't they got any real news to give us
instead of this nonsense ?
No, we don't care too much about animals, but we certainly don't care enough about humans. What's even more shameful is that we care more about animals than we do about humans. There really should be enough love and caring to share all around.
How can we care too much about animals when we don't give enough care and consideration to ourselves-the ultimate animal?
It really is a matter of whether we believe that animals are equal to humans
or not. Children from a young age are brought up on anthropomorphic stories which imply that they have the same feelings and motives as us. This is highly
unlikely!
Those who do not care for animals are inclined to not care for people. For we are all creatures together on the earth.
Although many humans fail to show compassion and love to their fellow
men, I believe that even the most cynical has, at one time or other, felt remorse or sorrow for some cruelty done to an animal.
Do we care about animals too much? For some, it is the only way to tell
if there is a heart inside.
This isn't to do with caring about animals, it's just to do with a media
circus. Judging by today's BBC News, it's not restricted to tabloid press
either. But that isn't to condemn the story... it's entertainment. The
fact that it's involving animals is neither here nor there.
Animals are treated as lesser beings. People seem to think that the larger or
'prettier' an animal is, the more right it has to be treated with respect.
Of course we do not care too much about animals. Apart from the shocking
cruelty that the RSPCA have to deal with every day, you seem to be saying that we care more about animals than humans. I do not think it is valid to blame animals for our apparent lack of compassion for each other. "Do we care to much about animals" is a fatuous point. It would be better to ask why don't we care about each other ? And leave the animals totally out of the debate.
I agree with the concerns of the English people towards animals.
I am a native of Spain and I do regret the ancient customs that my country
still permits.
Ms. Marcus-Arellano has hit the nail on the head. We in the Western world,
don't care enough about animals. This is the only possible conclusion once we consider how we allow many domesticated animals to be treated at mass
'processing' facilities here. I have in mind hens, pigs and cows especially.
Moreover, our willful destruction of the habitats of many wild animals in
the name of profit and 'progress' has in the past, and continues to be
disgraceful. Should we not view the hysterical celebrity bestowed on a few pigs and donkeys (or people for that matter) as merely the obverse side of the insignificance we are all reduced to by economic calculation? You and I
also are often taken into account merely as 'human resources' and frequently
care about each other only in so far as we can be useful or profitable to one another. Our abuse and celebration of animals is merely one
facet of a larger tragi-comedy.
I think that Britain should be proud of its improving treatment of animals
although we still have a long way to go. The government is taking long
overdue steps in Europe to ban battery farming of hens and Britain under both this government and the last has opposed the disgraceful practice of veal crates. Intensive farming of animals should not be acceptable in a civilised society and we should all reduce consumption of meat to once or twice a week and be prepared to pay a realistic price for the food we eat. Perhaps then we will really be able to claim to be a nation of animal.
I wonder how many of the people that have pledged money towards saving the two pigs have actually eaten bacon at some point over the last 5 years..
If you have the intelligence and imagination to empathize
with terror, pain and suffering, you care about all
living creatures.
People seem to care more for animals than other People!!
I believe that we don't care enough
about animals. Proof ? Just take a
visit to your local pet shelter. It's
always full of abandoned and abused animals.
It's true that human abuse victims should
have first priority but animals deserve
to live and to have a good life at that !!!
No, we do not care too much about animals.
We brutalise ourselves when we inflict uncaring pain and suffering on our
fellow creatures.
Bravo to these two courageous and resourceful pigs.
If they had been humans escaping slavery or certain death we would have been
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