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Wednesday, January 21, 1998 Published at 09:16 GMT Talking Point Should abortion laws be relaxed? Your reaction <% ballot="48795" ' Check nothing is broken broken = 0 if ballot = "" then broken = 1 end if set vt = Server.Createobject("mps.Vote") openresult = vt.Open("Vote", "sa", "") ' Created object? if IsObject(vt) = TRUE then ' Opened db? if openresult = True AND broken = 0 then ballotresult = vt.SetBallotName(ballot) ' read the vote votetotal=(vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "yes")+vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "no")) if votetotal <> 0 then ' there are votes in the database numberyes = vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "yes") numberno = vt.GetVoteCount(ballot, "no") percentyes = Int((numberyes/votetotal)*100) percentno = 100 - percentyes ' fix graph so funny graph heights dont appear 'if percentyes = 0 then ' percentyes = 1 'end if 'if percentno = 0 then ' percentno = 1 'end if else ' summut went wrong frig it numberyes = 0 numberno = 0 percentyes = 50 percentno = 50 end if end if end if %> Votes so far:
I feel that your law is just. Although it may not be used to the word of the
law, its letter seems just and right. The United States' laws might gain a
lesson from the British on this topic.
I am personally against abortion. However, I do not believe that the line
between the morals of the state and the morals of the individual should be drawn here.
Therefore such laws should be relaxed.
Abortion should be restricted except in cases wherein the Mother's life is actually in danger. The United States has lost millions of children for the sake of convenience, and our laws need to be tightened. We, in the States, are guilty of infanticide. Not a virtue to be emulated.
The Abortion Debate is about a woman's right to choose what's best for her -
her right to be able to make decisions without the State, the Courts or
religion dictating to her what she can and cannot do - as if she were a six
year old. Anti-abortion believers should realise that women will not go out en masse and have this very traumatic procedure just because the laws are relaxed so that women are treated like adults for a change.
I don't think that the adoption option is used enough here. Perhaps
with the tougher legisation (as it exists) and a public awareness campaign, this problem could be addressed.
We have legislation which was carefully considered. It is difficult to see
how proper safeguards for the unborn child could be enforced if abortion becomes available on demand.
You should relax abortion laws once you get comfortable with the idea of
killing innocent people.
The primary focus of this debate needs to shift from the curbing of women's
rights over their bodies to seeking to building a social structure which will
render the abortion laws obsolete.
Change the law to read "demonstrable risk to the mother's health" and insist
on parents considering marriage, financial support and adoption before abortion.
If we believe that people can make the judgement for themselves whether a
foetus in the womb is a human being or not (i.e. whether abortion is 'murder'
or not) then of course abortion laws should be relaxed - it is ridiculous to
only let doctors allow abortion on the grounds of a risk to mental/physical
health (as is current in the UK). We need to trust people to make their own
decisions.
Abortion law shouldn't be relaxed, quite the opposite. Perhaps though it's
time to look at peoples' attitude toward sex and self-respect. The use of
emotive words like 'murder' is not at all helpful to opening peoples' minds to
a genuine examination of the morality and ethics of the situation.
Any further relaxing of these laws just encourages younger people to have sex without having to worry about the consequences.
I think abortion on demand should be every woman's right. I think it's wrong of those people who have not been through an unwanted pregnancy to sit in judgement on those who have.
I feel that both sides of the abortion coin need to be advised to any woman
wanting an abortion. At the moment it is too easy and the problems that can arise after the event are not, on the whole discussed with the women.
I wish to see this changed.
Abortion if permitted at all, should only be allowed very early in the
pregnancy. Late-term abortions should not be allowed.
I think abortion should only be granted in the case of rape. Both partners
should be responsible for their actions.
I find the whole discussion rather worrying. It seems to be dominated by:
a) Religious groups who seem to feel that it is their duty to impose their
beliefs on other people who do not subscribe to their doctrines.
b) Men.
Abortion does have a place in our society and should, in my opinion, remain
legal. However, the use of abortion as a form of birth control because someone has 'forgotten' to take very readily available precauctions is offensive and unjustifiable.
It's rather odd that so many supporters of abortion will speak of a "mother's
right" to abort an unborn child. Motherhood is an insititution reserved for
people who want to, and have allowed themselves to give birth, love and raise a child - quite in contrast to those who would have rather have nothing to do with it.
A lot has been said for and against abortion from people coming from nearly
all walks of life. The way I see it, it is a basic human right dealing with choice. Whatever the situation may be, it is the right of the woman to either terminate the pregnancy or to carry it.
Abortion is the pre-meditated, brutal and bloody killing of an unborn child.
It is murder. No civilized country tolerates it. It should be outlawed. Not only is an innocent baby killed, but the mother of the child later in life regrets
and suffers for a youthful, selfish, "choice".
This is an issue which should be left for a woman to decide. Men should not be allowed to dictate an opinion which impinges on a woman's right to take control of her own body.
First I consider these two principles: (1) Mr Dobson is (rightly) entitled to
his opinion and to say it. (2) However laws of the land - especially moral
laws - should be based on reasoning and fact, not opinion.
It is frightening when people talk of pregnancy as an inconvenience, are we
saying we want freedom without responsibility?
Abortion should never be allowed in any case for whatever reason during any stage of any pregnancy, whether the life of the woman is at stake or not.
Abortion is a brutal crime and those conspiring to abort unborn children
should be sentenced to life imprisonment without the remote possibility of parole. Women having abortions are already up for excommunication from the Roman Catholic Church, and correctly so.
There would be less need for abortions if so called "Christians" who preach
about the sanctity of life and argue strongly against abortion attached less
social stigma to those who become pregnant when very young or outside of
marriage. If more support and less condemnation were available for women
in these circumstances, they would not feel obliged to have an abortion in
order to avoid becoming a social outcast.
Certainly not!
It never ceases to amaze me how peoples' minds work. The prevailing attitude of our society is "me, me, me" or "I will do as I damn well please". The first time they get pregnant (or in some other predicament), they cry "poor me, this is unfair!" It appears that nobody wants to recognize that they are accountable for what they do, that being an adult means that each of us must bear the consequences of our deeds.
In my view an unborn foetus does not become a life until it is born and has
experienced life outside the womb. To force mothers to obtain two signatures
from doctors in order to get permission for an abortion is ludicrous and in my
opinion is a violation of the mothers human rights.I'm not saying this should
be treated as a common ailment but surely it is the mother's decision?
Human life is sacrosanct, and the more defenceless, the greater an individuals
right to protection. Nobody has the right to take a life.
At the core of the abortion debate is that of life. If abortion was universally accepted as murder it would cease being a legally viable option. Even accepting that the unborn child is just a "foetus" or a "mass," does not
take away from the fact that it is murder.
How did we square slavery with our consciences? Answer: by not considering
slaves to be human. How do we accept the killing of the unborn? Answer: by
pretending that they are not human.
Abortion should not be allowed in a 'mental health' situation. Nobody's life should be taken because someone else claims that their mental health is at risk. This is an absolute farcical situation whereby somebody's life is viewed as an inconvienience and hence done away with. No person should have the right to take a life in this way, particularly since unborn children are the most defenceless members of our society. A more unjust situation is hard to imagine.
This is not a political issue, it is a moral issue. The more politicians and
pressure groups (and I include the churches in this) get involved in issues of
this nature the more of a mess they become. Decisions of the enormity of
abortion MUST be left to individuals to decide for themselves.
Abortion is already used as a form of contraception. We already live in a
society where the word NO is meaningless, would it not be more productive to educate people into taking responsibility for their actions instead of
providing get out clauses?
It is time that the government takes a lead on this issue. They must take the
head out of the quagmire and dicide on principle, facing down opponents if
necessary. Religious extremism in the USA or closer to home, Ireland should
not be transported into the UK. All women should have the right to choose. It is not for others to take that right from them.
I think present laws are about right but doubt if they are implemented
fairly.
No abortion laws can ever be just. They have to deal with one of the most emotive issues that challenges modern society, and as such are bound to fail. Abortion laws can never be just because they try to put legal boundaries on what is an extremely personal issue.
Britain does not need to change its abortion laws. It needs to start afresh and take into account the many advances in science that now show that
their is no such thing as foetal tissue, only humans.
Whether you are a doctor, scientist, religious or atheist,
it cannot be denied that abortion is the taking of a life.
We can argue about what to call that life: foetus, baby,
mass of tissue, but what can't be questioned is that it
destroys a living thing. If we reduce granting or taking
life to moral subjectivity and a matter of conscience, then
what value is attached to life? If a pregnancy does not serve
a purpose, need or is not wanted, just discard it like common
trash. What separates this from the killing in Africa, Algeria,
Bosnia, Afghanistan, Mexico.....?
The right of privacy is essential in
a democracy. Women's bodies do not belong
to the state. Abortion is, and should be,
a private matter.
Life is too special to be chucked away.
we should not be acting as God.
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