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Monday, 17 February, 2003, 09:16 GMT
Should mobile phone calls be banned in public places?
From April, requests to switch off your mobile phone before a play or concert begins in New York will be backed up with the threat of a $50 fine.
Anyone making a call, talking on their mobile, or even being rung during the performance will be breaking the law. New York is believed to be the first major US city to bring in such legislation although the new ban does not cover sporting events. Councillor Phil Reed, the main sponsor of the new law has descibed the move as a "quality of life issue". What do you think? Would you like to see a similar ban on mobile phones in public places in the UK?
Thank you for your comments; this debate is now closed. A selection of your e-mails is published below.
Why do people insist on getting so easily annoyed by others using mobile phones on trains and buses? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for restricting their use in cinemas, theatres, quiet sporting events, when driving and in museums. But what is the problem with a passenger on a bus or train, or in a car using their phone? Are people really that irritable? It's no different than two people having a conversation in person.
Maria, England
I have friends who need their mobiles on all the time because they are on call. But they still have the courtesy to turn the ringer off, leaving the vibrating alarm on when in the cinema or in a restaurant, and then go to the foyer to take the call.
I find it sad that such a law is necessary to force people to exercise a bit of common sense and consideration.
It is generally the volume with which people talk on their phones and the ring tones which are most irritating.
To all those who maintain that mobile phones are no louder than people having conversations on the train - NO! Not only do we have to tolerate loud piercing ring tones but the people using these phones seem to want to demonstrate that the person on the other end of the call could hear them without the phone. If you persist in using these monstrosities, be discreet about it. Turn down the ring tone and stop shouting.
Yes, I believe mobile phones have taken over control of our lives...and I have one! But I only use it for emergency and never have it on while driving or in a theatre, restaurant, etc. It is intrusive to me and the people around me, as is smoking in public places, which also should be banned in the UK!
Jerath, USA
What? How passive have we become? We now need a law and a bobby with a bat to "enforce" what could be accomplished by walking over and telling the yacking fool what is obvious to everybody else within earshot, "shut up and shut it off!"
I do not see the problem here. Someone holding a conversation on a telephone is little different in noise/distraction to a conversation between two people face to face. The reason telephone conversations stand out on trains is simply because we are an antisocial nation when it comes to strangers - so these places are more often than not silent. Shall we legislate against all conversations in restaurants? Fortunately, most people in this country remain courteous during performances, so the need for laughable legislation should not arise as it does in the land of the 'free'.
I understand how disrespectful it can be for someone to talk in a Theatre be it to another person or on a cell phone. What I don't understand is why people get annoyed by people talking on a cell phone on a busy train. The cell phone is only the communication medium so whether a person speaks to a friend using it or talks to them directly then they are still making noise. I can't understand why people get upset at cell phone users when other people are having conversations and making the same amount of noise anyway.
I was pretty laissez faire about the whole issue, until interruptions occurred in movies (quite frequent here), concerts, art museums, and the opera. The final straw was when a phone went off in mass and the offender scampered off in the side aisle! I turn mine off in most confined public areas or leave the vibe ring on, and leave the room to reply.
All this talk reminded me a movie where Alberto Sordi, while staying in London, felt depressed by the absolute silence of an utterly English restaurant and moved to a noisy Italian one. In Portugal, we go to restaurants to enjoy food but also to enjoy the company of friends and to talk to them. If people are talking in the room, what difference does it make to others that they are talking to someone near them or far away? Restrictions on phones should be similar to restrictions on talking. Of course you are not supposed to talk during a performance.
Helen, UK
Use of phones in cinemas or theatres is a little discourteous, but it amuses me how this discussion immediately turns to that particularly British fixation about people speaking or interacting in public. I have lived in many countries and only in England have I found that people become incensed when anyone speaks above a whisper, touches or even looks them in the eye when on public transport. Why become so enraged at overhearing a stranger's conversation?
Can we also ban people that incessantly whinge about mobile phone users?
Thomas Yasin, UK
I must admit that even though I was given a mobile, I still consider it the work of the devil. However everybody is ranting against phone use in any public place, and while there are a lot of very inconsiderate people about, there are also people who need to be contactable by phone, and perhaps would like to be allowed to go into public spaces. Imagine getting a call to say that your child has been run over and is critical in hospital; "Sorry about that sir - now pay the £50 fine before we let you go".
Mobile call usage should be banned in some public places; notably, on trains, in restaurants, on buses, in cinemas, in theatres, whilst driving and anywhere near me.
All laws should be justifiable and necessary. I don't believe in persecuting cigarette smokers who want to use their mobile phones in public, as long as the smell of their cigarette doesn't disturb my enjoyment of food I have paid for, or the sound of their phone conversation disturb my enjoyment of music I have paid to listen to. This is a law obviously designed by New Yorkers who have nothing better to do than take away from New York policemen their ability to use their judgement in enforcing existing laws.
John B, UK
I don't think a similar ban here is necessary. The vast majority of people here have the common courtesy to turn their phones off during a performance.
I fully agree with this stance. Mobile 'phones are useful items when used correctly, but too many people misuse them. We need to develop a culture whereby it is perceived to be anti-social to use mobile 'phones in certain public places. The US introduction of fines for use in public areas is, I believe, the first step along this road.
Oh please no! Raise up and fight this if it ever happens. Laws like this remove common sense and mutual human respect from the way we lead our lives and puts it in the hands of a policing force! How could this sort of law enhance anyones life!
To Mick, your statement about Americans having their civil liberties taken is wrong. Americans enjoy a lot more privacy and rights than people in some EU countries. Not being a national of those countries I try to not make generalisations about something I know nothing about. Having been in Europe for five years, I think my comment is true.
Great idea, but then again I might miss the entertaining one sided conversations that sometimes cheer up my day. Mind you how would teenagers manage? They have lost the ability to make arrangements to meet friends more than ten minutes in advance. Gone are the days of arranging meetings at times a few days in advance. The towns would be awash with lost souls of teenagers completely incapable of finding their friends.
Yes! And on any public transport. People seem to lose sense of direction and space, and are hardly courteous. If people need to have a conversation with somebody else, but not me, then they should keep that conversation between themselves, I am not interested in it - especially when they are invigorating conversations about yesterday's nail polish, or tonight's hair-do.
Paul Hester, UK
I'm fed up with mobile phone users disturbing the peace on the train. If I sat down and starting rambling to myself then people would find that annoying, so I see why making a phone call should be any different.
I used to own a mobile, but got rid of it because I hardly ever used it. I actually quite enjoy the feeling of being non-contactable when I am out now!
Absolutely - restaurants, galleries, theatres and cinemas. It should be about etiquette not law, but unfortunately that's a lost cause. For some reason, people think they can take a call when they are out to dinner with someone - how on earth has this happened?! It's just so rude.
Definitely agree with banning.
Society managed before they were available and they should not be allowed to be a public pestilence!
It's a well-intentioned idea, but I don't think it will work. Theatres and cinemas already have the power to (rightly) chuck out anyone who is using their mobile phone. If they're not prepared to do this (and evidently they're not otherwise this law wouldn't have been passed), how can we expect theatre attendants to start slapping £50 fines on people? It's not the law that needs to take a tough line, it has to be the managers of theatres and cinemas.
Can we have the same for incessant chatting during a performance please?
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